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All this talk of chickens, poo, and doom.

Let's talk about sexual energy and blood instead...


I was wondering if any of the menstruating women on this thread have noticed a reduction in their...monthly flow.

I have noted said for months now, and it harkens back to something I posted some months ago.

While men lose 'jing' due to ejaculation, woman apparently lose it through menses.

It is the ultimate goal it is said, to stop menstruation completely, but why that would be desired I am unsure.

hmm




Women do not lose vital essence during orgasm because it is not being expelled out of the body, as is the case for the male. The female orgasm is more of an implosion than an explosion. However, as I mentioned above, women do lose jing during menstruation through the loss of blood -- like semen, another vital fluid and bridge between organic matter and vital energy.

There are esoteric teachings in taoist energy theory for how women, like men, can dramatically reduce the depletion of jing. The female counterpart to male semen retention in the reduction and cessation of menstruation, which can be attained through learning specific techniques of circulation and cultivation of energy. (This is described in Mantak Chia's Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Female Sexual Energy and his other writings.)

It is important to point out here that the cessation of menstruation in these cases is not due to any pathological condition, as we would assume in the West, but rather to an exceptionally high level of cultivation of vital energy and the ability to conserve it and channel it to higher centers in the body's energetic anatomy. This will not make sense to Western-trained physicians who, without an understanding of its energetic aspects, can only see cessation of periods as a disease state.

Taoist and tantric sexual practices teach how to move and circulate the energy throughout the body, rather than simply stagnating in the sexual organs, so this energy can be absorbed and transformed into health-giving chi. This latter point is particularly important. If the charge of sexual energy is aroused and then just left "unmoved," so to speak, congestion in the sex organs will naturally develop. However, by simply learning to draw the aroused energy upward and circulate it through the body's various energetic pathways, and then using the breath and visualization to help direct this, the energy is easily circulated.


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that post makes much sense /z\
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hey see7

as it is,, saint valentines day,, here in the uk,,

most tonight,, will be experiencing the good feeling,, only sexual copulation can manifest,,

the ovaray blood pms senario,, seems somewhat dissapointive in essense by retrograde,,

whilst understood as an unavoidable circumstance,, however,, the sexual energy,, is likely too prevade the negative indeed,,


much love,,
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All this talk of chickens, poo, and doom.

Let's talk about sexual energy and blood instead...


I was wondering if any of the menstruating women on this thread have noticed a reduction in their...monthly flow.

I have noted said for months now, and it harkens back to something I posted some months ago.

While men lose 'jing' due to ejaculation, woman apparently lose it through menses.

It is the ultimate goal it is said, to stop menstruation completely, but why that would be desired I am unsure.

hmm




Women do not lose vital essence during orgasm because it is not being expelled out of the body, as is the case for the male. The female orgasm is more of an implosion than an explosion. However, as I mentioned above, women do lose jing during menstruation through the loss of blood -- like semen, another vital fluid and bridge between organic matter and vital energy.

There are esoteric teachings in taoist energy theory for how women, like men, can dramatically reduce the depletion of jing. The female counterpart to male semen retention in the reduction and cessation of menstruation, which can be attained through learning specific techniques of circulation and cultivation of energy. (This is described in Mantak Chia's Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Female Sexual Energy and his other writings.)

It is important to point out here that the cessation of menstruation in these cases is not due to any pathological condition, as we would assume in the West, but rather to an exceptionally high level of cultivation of vital energy and the ability to conserve it and channel it to higher centers in the body's energetic anatomy. This will not make sense to Western-trained physicians who, without an understanding of its energetic aspects, can only see cessation of periods as a disease state.

Taoist and tantric sexual practices teach how to move and circulate the energy throughout the body, rather than simply stagnating in the sexual organs, so this energy can be absorbed and transformed into health-giving chi. This latter point is particularly important. If the charge of sexual energy is aroused and then just left "unmoved," so to speak, congestion in the sex organs will naturally develop. However, by simply learning to draw the aroused energy upward and circulate it through the body's various energetic pathways, and then using the breath and visualization to help direct this, the energy is easily circulated.


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I'll say one thing on it as its not a topic I like very much. I have heard that the woman holds more 'power' after menopause or crone age. I heard that in herbal healing.
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hey see7

as it is,, saint valentines day,, here in the uk,,

most tonight,, will be experiencing the good feeling,, only sexual copulation can manifest,,

the ovaray blood pms senario,, seems somewhat dissapointive in essense by retrograde,,

whilst understood as an unavoidable circumstance,, however,, the sexual energy,, is likely too prevade the negative indeed,,


much love,,
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Well said.

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nn all,,

have a wonderful night,,

much love,,
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I'll say one thing on it as its not a topic I like very much. I have heard that the woman holds more 'power' after menopause or crone age. I heard that in herbal healing.
Later
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Interesting.

I had not heard that but it does go well with the topic. I can't say I have ever noticed a woman who has gone through menopause, to be more 'powerful' than her younger counterparts. But I have not come in contact with ones who practiced tantra throughout their life.

To find one who has, and find that menopause does in fact lead to 'more power' as stated, would be interesting to note.


Also, sometimes one must move out of a comfort zone to steer something in another direction for whatever reason.

Thank you for your comment.


flower
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I'll say one thing on it as its not a topic I like very much. I have heard that the woman holds more 'power' after menopause or crone age. I heard that in herbal healing.
Later
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Interesting.

I had not heard that but it does go well with the topic. I can't say I have ever noticed a woman who has gone through menopause, to be more 'powerful' than her younger counterparts. But I have not come in contact with ones who practiced tantra throughout their life.

To find one who has, and find that menopause does in fact lead to 'more power' as stated, would be interesting to note.


Also, sometimes one must move out of a comfort zone to steer something in another direction for whatever reason.

Thank you for your comment.


flower
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do we say that sex drive is the visible sign of something more diverse than a traditional sexual act like sex drive is a motivating emotion that motivates
thus it`s motivational emotion (information) can be utilized beyond the boundaries of traditional physical sex acts

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oh
is it an enhance of pinch affect
heightened emotions is higher velocity
higher velocity is higher vortical affect

makes sense
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do we say that sex drive is the visible sign of something more diverse that a traditional sexual act like sex drive is a motivating emotion that motivates
thus it`s motivational emotion (information) can be utilized beyond the boundaries of traditional physical sex acts
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I think it is the pheromones or anticipation perhaps for the coming of St. Valentine Day.

As this thread was filled with it yesterday, as one poster pointed out so aptly.


I believe the point is the harnessing of sexual energy utilized to reduce ones loss of jing and therein, be able to utilize sexual energy for other purpose.

:)
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i do believe you
i was not joking about pms
i have never had it like this before, even close to this and i know why
i was never close to other receptive females thus nothing heightened my sensations because of their sensations
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Certain herbs can activate estrogen receptors, as well.

About a year ago I used one called... hmm ...

... I'm sure it'll come to mind... lmao

Regardless of the name (lol), as well as acting as an adaptogenic material (the effect I was after) it activates estrogen receptors. Technically a "synthetic estrogen" as it does not resemble other estrogen like compounds in more common plants.

It may have helped spur my Kundalini/right side awakening.

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...

"Let's talk about Sex and Blood!" she says...

...

lmao

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Anyway...this topic seems to have made people uncomfortable, so let's just leave it at that.

:)
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Anyway...this topic seems to have made people uncomfortable, so let's just leave it at that.

:)
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hmm

Well, the beast needs to be drawn out eventually...

As you will, though.

:)
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i do believe you
i was not joking about pms
i have never had it like this before, even close to this and i know why
i was never close to other receptive females thus nothing heightened my sensations because of their sensations
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Certain herbs can activate estrogen receptors, as well.

About a year ago I used one called... hmm ...

... I'm sure it'll come to mind... lmao

Regardless of the name (lol), as well as acting as an adaptogenic material (the effect I was after) it activates estrogen receptors. Technically a "synthetic estrogen" as it does not resemble other estrogen like compounds in more common plants.

It may have helped spur my Kundalini/right side awakening.
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel



Both the ingestion of Soy and/or drinking beverages out of containers made with BPA, have been linked to mimicking estrogen in the human body.

As Dion often mention, you are what you eat.

Bon appetit!

lol.

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Anyway...this topic seems to have made people uncomfortable, so let's just leave it at that.

:)
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hmm

Well, the beast needs to be drawn out eventually...

As you will, though.

:)
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


I hadn't noticed your comments before I made that comment. I can feel the annoyance from here.

Quite strong it is.

Indeed.


Which beast do you speak?

:)
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Both the ingestion of Soy and/or drinking beverages out of containers made with BPA, have been linked to mimicking estrogen in the human body.

As Dion often mention, you are what you eat.

Bon appetit!

lol.
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Right, I had forgotten about that aspect... creepy. blink

These also are a factor... phyto-estrogens. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

...

The similarities, at molecular level, of estrogens and phytoestrogens allow them to mildly mimic and sometimes act as antagonists of estrogen.

Phytoestrogens were first observed in 1926, but it was unknown if they could have any effect in human or animal metabolism.

In the 1940s it was noticed for the first time that red clover (a phytoestrogens-rich plant) pastures had effects on the fecundity of grazing sheep.

Researchers are exploring the nutritional role of these substances in the regulation of cholesterol, and the maintenance of proper bone density post-menopause.

Evidence is accruing that phytoestrogens may have protective action against diverse health disorders, such as prostate, breast, bowel, and other cancers, cardiovascular disease, brain function disorders and osteoporosis, though there is no evidence to support their use in alleviating the symptoms of menopause.


...
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Quite strong it is.

Indeed.


Which beast do you speak?

:)
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...

hmm

...let's say, for the sake of argument...

Lilith.

Lilith needs to be "slain"... keeping in mind of course, that no one ever dies.

HagiaSophiaSnow

wink
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Quite strong it is.

Indeed.


Which beast do you speak?

:)
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...

hmm

...let's say, for the sake of argument...

Lilith.

Lilith needs to be "slain"... keeping in mind of course, that no one ever dies.

HagiaSophiaSnow

wink
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


I see.

Tell me if you will, what Lilith represents to you... As she seems to be quite a baby eating demon if you listen to the myth.

Not my favorite topic, Lilith, but in this case I am interested in your thoughts.

hmm


I like that image btw.
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wink I need to pop out for a bit.

I'll keep the idea in mind.
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afro
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she says 75 days left

watching today it is 30 april, National Honesty day
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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afro
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she says 75 days left

watching today it is 30 april, National Honesty day
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nice carnival last night
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afro
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she says 75 days left

watching today it is 30 april, National Honesty day
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nice carnival last night
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I'll say one thing on it as its not a topic I like very much. I have heard that the woman holds more 'power' after menopause or crone age. I heard that in herbal healing.
Later
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Interesting.

I had not heard that but it does go well with the topic. I can't say I have ever noticed a woman who has gone through menopause, to be more 'powerful' than her younger counterparts. But I have not come in contact with ones who practiced tantra throughout their life.

To find one who has, and find that menopause does in fact lead to 'more power' as stated, would be interesting to note.


Also, sometimes one must move out of a comfort zone to steer something in another direction for whatever reason.

Thank you for your comment.


flower
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No prob. Power as in wisdom and ability to harness energies more, I think that is what is meant by power. Have a great night guys.
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I'll say one thing on it as its not a topic I like very much. I have heard that the woman holds more 'power' after menopause or crone age. I heard that in herbal healing.
Later
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Interesting.

I had not heard that but it does go well with the topic. I can't say I have ever noticed a woman who has gone through menopause, to be more 'powerful' than her younger counterparts. But I have not come in contact with ones who practiced tantra throughout their life.

To find one who has, and find that menopause does in fact lead to 'more power' as stated, would be interesting to note.


Also, sometimes one must move out of a comfort zone to steer something in another direction for whatever reason.

Thank you for your comment.


flower
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No prob. Power as in wisdom and ability to harness energies more, I think that is what is meant by power. Have a great night guys.
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motive and topics
there is always a topic that will alter a village
a town, a city, a state, a country,
always
now we are globalized in communication there will be a topic that alters all people
cos there always is
it always happens
it always does

i like that

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Your posts are doubling all the time aether tounge

It was a good carnival last night.
It started last wednesday and ended last night. I was really in need of a week of rest and fun. It's a interesting week to recall, 'rest' made me see a lot of things, and re-discover others.

The excitement of this year is almost giving me anxiety. tounge

Good night hi
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Wow.

Did you read through Sept's thread aether? Amazing conversation there.

One of the best threads I have read in a while.

cool2
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motive and topics
there is always a topic that will alter a village
a town, a city, a state, a country,
always
now we are globalized in communication there will be a topic that alters all people
cos there always is
it always happens
it always does

i like that
 Quoting: Fancy 3151715


two topics work global
people themselves
that which affects people

motive

what would you wish all people to express
or
motive is
steer people irrespective of their expression because..........

many options after that

so lets stick with first motive

what would you wish all people to express
something that made them all comfortable
something they liked expressing

i like that /z\

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Wow.

Did you read through Sept's thread aether? Amazing conversation there.

One of the best threads I have read in a while.

cool2
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looking tounge
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Wow.

Did you read through Sept's thread aether? Amazing conversation there.

One of the best threads I have read in a while.

cool2
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fluid depth

is the term

lovely to be seen

cheer
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motive and topics
there is always a topic that will alter a village
a town, a city, a state, a country,
always
now we are globalized in communication there will be a topic that alters all people
cos there always is
it always happens
it always does

i like that
 Quoting: Fancy 3151715


two topics work global
people themselves
that which affects people

motive

what would you wish all people to express
or
motive is
steer people irrespective of their expression because..........

many options after that

so lets stick with first motive

what would you wish all people to express
something that made them all comfortable
something they liked expressing

i like that /z\
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yes
that is 2 different ways of looking at the same topic

steering irrespective of expression by default means feeding their expression to maintain steering without their expression