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Over the years I have become interested in and studied the I Ching, Stephen Wolfram's "A New Kind of Science", and electrical engineering.

Since the I Ching is about change, and ANKS is about classes of change, I realized a while ago that Wolfram's "classes of computation" were actually analogous to the four different states in the I Ching: Yin, Yin changing to Yang, Yang, and Yang changing to Yin. I spent a very long time meditating on which classes of computation were related to which yin/yang states.

Then, most recently, I have become fascinated with Electric Universe theory and electricity in general. It all fell into place when I watched "Finding the Missing Memristor", a talk by R. Stanley Williams, a scientist who has been lecturing about the fact that there is a fourth fundamental circuit element along side the resistor, capacitor, and inductor -- the memristor.

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“Neuristor”: Memristors used to create a neuron-like behavior

But researchers may have figured out a way to create a chip that spikes. The people at HP labs who have been working on memristors have figured out a combination of memristors and capacitors that can create a spiking output pattern.
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This archetype, does it have a yin yang or two different expressions like other archetypes do?
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:horntorus:
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good morning

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bump This is the structure of Gem matrix! blink
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the book of changes

what a title

unique in our history is Chinese belief because they appear unaffected by the silent archetype to the degree other people are

other people know our universe will end one way or another thus everything they look at is seen as proof that what they know is true
big bang
Abraham faiths
Hindu
Buddhist
ect.ect.
they all know our universe will go

our Chinese say something different , they say that our universe arrived and they are provided (arrived) by our universe and they look at everything to see what our universe will next provide with no expectation it will ever not provide because they know it will never go

whole different way to see the same thing another way
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Chinese end of our golden age ?

Humans lived a happy, peaceful life for years, until one day a great disaster struck them. Gong Gong, a red-haired giant, started a war against the Zhuan Xu (another giant). Defeated, Gong Gong became so furious that he banged his humongous head against Bu Zhou Mountain and caused it to crumble. The mountain was in fact one of the pillars of the four corners of the world, (north, south, east, and west), supporting the tent like sky to prevent it from collapsing. Consequently a large chunk of the sky fell. Water gushed out from the big hole and poured onto the earth, which had been quaking violently in the wake of Bu Zhou Mountain’s collapse. The seas swelled and began to submerge land after land. Loong of fire and water and beasts of prey who were flushed out of their dens began to run wild and took a great number of lives. [link to www.mysteriouschina.com]
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the book of changes

what a title

unique in our history is Chinese belief because they appear unaffected by the silent archetype to the degree other people are

other people know our universe will end one way or another thus everything they look at is seen as proof that what they know is true
big bang
Abraham faiths
Hindu
Buddhist
ect.ect.
they all know our universe will go

our Chinese say something different , they say that our universe arrived and they are provided (arrived) by our universe and they look at everything to see what our universe will next provide with no expectation it will ever not provide because they know it will never go

whole different way to see the same thing another way
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In the vision I had in June, it was heavily implied that Chinese culture was a dead-end. Indeed, the sequence was quite incredible:

I found myself seemingly traveling back in time.

Looking around me, I noticed that my surroundings had "morphed" into what resembled a bronze-age Chinese city.

It is a long story, but the gist of it, is that Chinese philosophies had taken a turn for the worst, and that it was time for the seas to become the land, vice versa.

1dunno1
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This archetype, does it have a yin yang or two different expressions like other archetypes do?
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:horntorus:
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good morning

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bump This is the structure of Gem matrix! blink
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a gem with infinite facets
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In the vision I had in June, it was heavily implied that Chinese culture was a dead-end. Indeed, the sequence was quite incredible:

I found myself seemingly traveling back in time.

Looking around me, I noticed that my surroundings had "morphed" into what resembled a bronze-age Chinese city.

It is a long story, but the gist of it, is that Chinese philosophies had taken a turn for the worst, and that it was time for the seas to become the land, vice versa.

1dunno1
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i wonder if that is cultural or environmental
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:horntorus:
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good morning

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bump This is the structure of Gem matrix! blink
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a gem with infinite facets
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hf

Is that a quote of yours?

I must have overlooked it.
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In the vision I had in June, it was heavily implied that Chinese culture was a dead-end. Indeed, the sequence was quite incredible:

I found myself seemingly traveling back in time.

Looking around me, I noticed that my surroundings had "morphed" into what resembled a bronze-age Chinese city.

It is a long story, but the gist of it, is that Chinese philosophies had taken a turn for the worst, and that it was time for the seas to become the land, vice versa.

1dunno1
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i wonder if that is cultural or environmental
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I feel that it is ultimately a matter of culture.

Perhaps population is a contributing factor.

China owns Tibet but very few people live there.

So in the spots in which people live, the density tends to be very high.

...

To be perfectly frank, I fail to see a feasible recovery strategy for China, short of de-population.

There are, quite simply, too many people... and their farming methods are notorious for destroying the land under them, rendering it infertile. 1dunno1
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good morning

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bump This is the structure of Gem matrix! blink
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a gem with infinite facets
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105951


hf

Is that a quote of yours?

I must have overlooked it.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


the back channel thread. page 3
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Just thought I would put this here as I feel I have been prompted through strange synch since this morning.

Having to do with a dam.

Essentially, I was out on the deck when I heard the Bay sound strange. I looked over to see a small but fast moving wave move down from the river filling the Bay in seconds.

The 'wave' was all of a few inches high, but what got my attention was where it suddenly came from?

blink

I then got an image of a large dam breaking not related to my Bay in any way. When pi mentioned 'China' I was then again prompted to speak about the 'dam'.

Dunno.


Just thought I would mention.

hf
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In the beginning, there were two regions: Muspellsheimr in the south, full of fire, light and heat; and Niflheimr in the north, full of arctic waters, mists, and cold.[3] Between them stretched the yawning emptiness of Ginnungagap, and into it poured sparks and smoke from the south and layers of rime-ice and glacial rivers from the north. As heat and cold met in Ginnungagap, a living Jǫtunn, Ymir, appeared in the melting ice. From his left armpit, the first man and woman were born. From his legs, the frost jötnar were born. Ymir fed on the milk of the cow Auðhumla. He licked the blocks of salty ice, releasing Buri.

Buri's son Bor had three sons, the gods Óðinn, Vili and Vé. The three slew Ymir, and all of the frost giants but Bergelmir were drowned in the blood. From Ymir's body, they made the world of humans: his blood the seas and lakes, his flesh the earth, his bones the mountains and his teeth the rocks. From his skull they made the dome of the sky, setting a dwarf at each of the four corners to hold it high above the earth. They protected it from the jötnar with a wall made from Ymir's eyebrows. Next they caused time to exist, sending Night and Day to drive around the heavens in horse drawn chariots. They also set a girl Sun and a boy Moon on paths across the sky. These two must drive fast to outrun the wolves who pursued them.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

In the beginning, there were two regions: Muspellsheimr in the south, full of fire, light and heat; and Niflheimr in the north, full of arctic waters, mists, and cold.[3] Between them stretched the yawning emptiness of Ginnungagap, and into it poured sparks and smoke from the south and layers of rime-ice and glacial rivers from the north. As heat and cold met in Ginnungagap, a living Jǫtunn, Ymir, appeared in the melting ice. From his left armpit, the first man and woman were born. From his legs, the frost jötnar were born. Ymir fed on the milk of the cow Auðhumla. He licked the blocks of salty ice, releasing Buri.

Buri's son Bor had three sons, the gods Óðinn, Vili and Vé. The three slew Ymir, and all of the frost giants but Bergelmir were drowned in the blood. From Ymir's body, they made the world of humans: his blood the seas and lakes, his flesh the earth, his bones the mountains and his teeth the rocks. From his skull they made the dome of the sky, setting a dwarf at each of the four corners to hold it high above the earth. They protected it from the jötnar with a wall made from Ymir's eyebrows. Next they caused time to exist, sending Night and Day to drive around the heavens in horse drawn chariots. They also set a girl Sun and a boy Moon on paths across the sky. These two must drive fast to outrun the wolves who pursued them.

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you know what i find strange in all of our creation histories
we have buildings older than the writing dates , buildings we would struggle to recreate today
and
we have creation stories never updated to match the knowing that must have existed to construct the buildings
why leave the stories unedited
unless
the builders and the history writers are two different people as in:
local (creation history writers)
non local (structure creators)

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you know what i find strange in all of our creation histories
we have buildings older than the writing dates , buildings we would struggle to recreate today
and
we have creation stories never updated to match the knowing that must have existed to construct the buildings
why leave the stories unedited
unless
the builders and the history writers are two different people as in:
local (creation history writers)
non local (structure creators)
 Quoting: aether


What if some of those buildings are not from 'this earth'? Like portal from other earths/dimensions.
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you know what i find strange in all of our creation histories
we have buildings older than the writing dates , buildings we would struggle to recreate today
and
we have creation stories never updated to match the knowing that must have existed to construct the buildings
why leave the stories unedited
unless
the builders and the history writers are two different people as in:
local (creation history writers)
non local (structure creators)
 Quoting: aether


What if some of those buildings are not from 'this earth'? Like portal from other earths/dimensions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


i believe we are now certain the builders are not from earth
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Earth's Tallest Lightning Seen in Unprecedented Detail

Mysterious and gigantic jets of lightning that shoot up to near the edge of space have now been observed in unprecedented detail, revealing just how much charge they pack and how they form....................
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[link to www.ouramazingplanet.com]
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just like when I posted about orange cats you all ran with it for weeks...

from then everything was orange...
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Just wanted to mention...

I arrived at my beach house several days ago and I noticed something I had not seen prior, although here for over a month rather recently.


Essentially, on the first day I saw 2 nearly identical orange cats posturing aggressively toward each other. One of the orange cats appeared spooked and ran closer to my house.

Since that time, I have seen that orange cat or the other, every time I go outside. Never together since.

Whether one side of the house or the other, there one of them is.

Mewing to itself.

:)
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you know what i find strange in all of our creation histories
we have buildings older than the writing dates , buildings we would struggle to recreate today
and
we have creation stories never updated to match the knowing that must have existed to construct the buildings
why leave the stories unedited
unless
the builders and the history writers are two different people as in:
local (creation history writers)
non local (structure creators)
 Quoting: aether


What if some of those buildings are not from 'this earth'? Like portal from other earths/dimensions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


i believe we are now certain the builders are not from earth
 Quoting: aether


i know aliens are popular and there was a time when i did not doubt space fairing humanoids, having snarphled an *enormous* amount of science fiction: you should see my library...

but recently i've begun to seriouly doubt their existence, not just here on earth, but everywhere/anywhere. Not that there aren't other life like us and the rest of the biosphear on other planets, i'm pretty sure there's lots of those. i just don't think that there's any life like us wandering around in metal boxes zooming between the stars.

which is kind of a bummer, cuz i can't enjoy much of my sci-fi anymore...

here's my thinking:

science (and be extension, science fiction) posits planets and stars as mere matter, complex matter to be sure, but entirely free from thinking or conciousnes. They imagine humans or human like animals to be the currunt peak of evolution (discounting the whole energy being thing) raised by chance and survival of the fittest to our 'amazing' hieghts of awesome itelectual prowess and that given time and ingenuity, they (or us) eventually build craft with which they/we zoom off and explore and/or colonize the rest of the galaxy.

someday to join the galactic community of spacefairing clans filled with all manor of adventure and drama....

sometimes there's this as yet (even to advance races) unknowable all pervading creator god or gods, but usually not.

it was all very exciting for a young and then not so young man: particularly in light of the mundane life i was forced to live within...

but years of gobbling actual science coupled with my own thinking and a couple of truly astonishing experiences have changed my thinking on the subject.

starting small: i have realized that humans (and other animals) are not 'single' organisms: we are colonies. We function as a result of a very complex and multifacetted ecosystem that recieves and process information on many levels: chemical, electrical, and magnetic. That we are legion. the "I" is a construct of the mind. a small part as it turns out. the "I" is an illusion. The self results from the colective information processing of all the life that lives in us and on us - did you know that if our skin was not atached to us, it could be considered a life form all on its own? It has two boundaries(inside and outside) it's own neuronic processors and functions almost by itself, protecting all the life inside and in reurn being fed nurtrients by that same life: our skin is *alive* in its own right. All the way down to the cellular level, each bit is a collony, a collective.

This doesn't even include the order of magnitude more of 'foreign' life that we depend on for almost every aspect of our functioning: there are bacteria that sit on top of DNA and manage its devision, copying itself into each new divided cell. i find that fact amazing.

it's almost as if we are a substrate on which this life can live.

Did you know that the heart has more neurons than muscle fiber?

Did you know that the placenta has its own 'brain"?!?

But what happens when you take this life *out* of the womb that is the body?

it dies, that's what.

the life that we depend on for life cannot live outside of the enclosure that we call a singular being, a single "I".

we are legion.

and even within the etherial nature of our mind, there exists not one, but many. The mental construct that we think of as a single mind is in fact a commitee and the decisions and actions we make are infact the result of a consensus of many voices: all humans are schisophrentic, its simply a matter of degree whether we call them 'insane' or not.

and to the celluar and microbial life that lives as a part of us (largely minding their own business) we are God, and the many voices that exist within our minds are angels.

we are the God of our own body and the voices that make up the commitee of decision makers are the angels: each with their own agenda and desires. All driving the huge terestrial 'ship' thru the 'galaxy; of the earth, moving at incredibly slow rates compared to the quick functioning of a cell or a bacterium and traveling thru the 'vast' distances of the earthen 'galaxy'.

if they leave us (and they do) they get sick and die...

so now, scale that up to a planet, moving thru the galaxy at (to us) incredibly slow rates, perusing the wider galaxy thru (to us) vast distances.

can u see where i'm going with this...?

Now consider all the medical science that shows how much astronauts suffer when they spend just short periods in very near space...

We are part of the body/mind that is a planet and when we leave that body we suffer and if we go too far, as we will probably attempt to, we will die.

We depend on Gaia for our well being and outside of her womb we will become sick and die.

There are no aliens.

The wider galaxy is for the stellar and planetary minds.

and all the rest of the aliens that are like us are also bound to their planetary bodies. Sure they exist, but they do not fly around in zippy little metal boxes preying on innocent humans.

that's how i see it anyway.

it just makes sense to me, paticularly in light of the more astounding events that have been imposed upon me.


yep.
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There are no aliens.

The wider galaxy is for the stellar and planetary minds.

and all the rest of the aliens that are like us are also bound to their planetary bodies. Sure they exist, but they do not fly around in zippy little metal boxes preying on innocent humans.

that's how i see it anyway.

it just makes sense to me, paticularly in light of the more astounding events that have been imposed upon me.

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hmm

Why do you think information age technology is the limit?

Furthermore... how do you explain Gematria, if not aliens?

[link to www.gematrix.org]

[link to www.gematrix.org]

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you know what i find strange in all of our creation histories
we have buildings older than the writing dates , buildings we would struggle to recreate today
and
we have creation stories never updated to match the knowing that must have existed to construct the buildings
why leave the stories unedited
unless
the builders and the history writers are two different people as in:
local (creation history writers)
non local (structure creators)
 Quoting: aether


What if some of those buildings are not from 'this earth'? Like portal from other earths/dimensions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


i believe we are now certain the builders are not from earth
 Quoting: aether


i know aliens are popular and there was a time when i did not doubt space fairing humanoids, having snarphled an *enormous* amount of science fiction: you should see my library...

but recently i've begun to seriouly doubt their existence, not just here on earth, but everywhere/anywhere. Not that there aren't other life like us and the rest of the biosphear on other planets, i'm pretty sure there's lots of those. i just don't think that there's any life like us wandering around in metal boxes zooming between the stars.

which is kind of a bummer, cuz i can't enjoy much of my sci-fi anymore...

here's my thinking:

science (and be extension, science fiction) posits planets and stars as mere matter, complex matter to be sure, but entirely free from thinking or conciousnes. They imagine humans or human like animals to be the currunt peak of evolution (discounting the whole energy being thing) raised by chance and survival of the fittest to our 'amazing' hieghts of awesome itelectual prowess and that given time and ingenuity, they (or us) eventually build craft with which they/we zoom off and explore and/or colonize the rest of the galaxy.

someday to join the galactic community of spacefairing clans filled with all manor of adventure and drama....

sometimes there's this as yet (even to advance races) unknowable all pervading creator god or gods, but usually not.

it was all very exciting for a young and then not so young man: particularly in light of the mundane life i was forced to live within...

but years of gobbling actual science coupled with my own thinking and a couple of truly astonishing experiences have changed my thinking on the subject.

starting small: i have realized that humans (and other animals) are not 'single' organisms: we are colonies. We function as a result of a very complex and multifacetted ecosystem that recieves and process information on many levels: chemical, electrical, and magnetic. That we are legion. the "I" is a construct of the mind. a small part as it turns out. the "I" is an illusion. The self results from the colective information processing of all the life that lives in us and on us - did you know that if our skin was not atached to us, it could be considered a life form all on its own? It has two boundaries(inside and outside) it's own neuronic processors and functions almost by itself, protecting all the life inside and in reurn being fed nurtrients by that same life: our skin is *alive* in its own right. All the way down to the cellular level, each bit is a collony, a collective.

This doesn't even include the order of magnitude more of 'foreign' life that we depend on for almost every aspect of our functioning: there are bacteria that sit on top of DNA and manage its devision, copying itself into each new divided cell. i find that fact amazing.

it's almost as if we are a substrate on which this life can live.

Did you know that the heart has more neurons than muscle fiber?

Did you know that the placenta has its own 'brain"?!?

But what happens when you take this life *out* of the womb that is the body?

it dies, that's what.

the life that we depend on for life cannot live outside of the enclosure that we call a singular being, a single "I".

we are legion.

and even within the etherial nature of our mind, there exists not one, but many. The mental construct that we think of as a single mind is in fact a commitee and the decisions and actions we make are infact the result of a consensus of many voices: all humans are schisophrentic, its simply a matter of degree whether we call them 'insane' or not.

and to the celluar and microbial life that lives as a part of us (largely minding their own business) we are God, and the many voices that exist within our minds are angels.

we are the God of our own body and the voices that make up the commitee of decision makers are the angels: each with their own agenda and desires. All driving the huge terestrial 'ship' thru the 'galaxy; of the earth, moving at incredibly slow rates compared to the quick functioning of a cell or a bacterium and traveling thru the 'vast' distances of the earthen 'galaxy'.

if they leave us (and they do) they get sick and die...

so now, scale that up to a planet, moving thru the galaxy at (to us) incredibly slow rates, perusing the wider galaxy thru (to us) vast distances.

can u see where i'm going with this...?

Now consider all the medical science that shows how much astronauts suffer when they spend just short periods in very near space...

We are part of the body/mind that is a planet and when we leave that body we suffer and if we go too far, as we will probably attempt to, we will die.

We depend on Gaia for our well being and outside of her womb we will become sick and die.

There are no aliens.

The wider galaxy is for the stellar and planetary minds.

and all the rest of the aliens that are like us are also bound to their planetary bodies. Sure they exist, but they do not fly around in zippy little metal boxes preying on innocent humans.

that's how i see it anyway.

it just makes sense to me, paticularly in light of the more astounding events that have been imposed upon me.


yep.
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I'm with ya bro.

hf

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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
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Man is defined by time, and by spirit.

Spirit is time in reverse...

hmm

Perhaps true will would arise. wink
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There are no aliens.

The wider galaxy is for the stellar and planetary minds.

and all the rest of the aliens that are like us are also bound to their planetary bodies. Sure they exist, but they do not fly around in zippy little metal boxes preying on innocent humans.

that's how i see it anyway.

it just makes sense to me, paticularly in light of the more astounding events that have been imposed upon me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


hmm

Why do you think information age technology is the limit?

Furthermore... how do you explain Gematria, if not aliens?

[link to www.gematrix.org]

[link to www.gematrix.org]
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


i don't recall saying information tech was a limit. all i said was that we won't be physically leaving this planet in little metal boxes. and that there are no aliens visiting us from afar.

i have no idea what the limit is nor where we are going within out biosphear, but i can tell you that 'tech' is nothing compared with certain magical experiences and that it is quite possible that we will learn that a large portion of our tech is doing us more harm than good.

particularly when when 'good' is measured in quality of life experience and personal development.

...

i have no idea what the conversion of letters to numbers has to do with the subject or why it has anything to do with aliens.

enlighten me.
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
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Man is defined by time, and by spirit.

Spirit is time in reverse...


hmm

Perhaps true will would arise. wink
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hmm



12/12/12 12:34

It just sometimes feels like we have already done this before...

Does that make sense?


Maybe it's time travel from our future into our past.

I dunno.

It keeps resurfacing.

hmm
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It's because we have done this before...over and fucking over...time to get off the loop...

hf
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
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i'm not i understand u, seestar?

what does that mean, "conquer time"?

do you mean escape our own linear temporal experience? Why does it need to be conquered? why would you want to?

one minute can feel like an eternity, one day can flash by in what feels like seconds.

do you wish to change your expereince of time?

i don't buy interdimentionality, nor parallel universes, the the concepts can make for interesting stories...

i believe in dimensions in experience: microbe, human, planet, galaxy... it's all bout how quicky you gather data and process it. it's quite likely that a planetary 'seccond' lasts a human millina and a microbial age.

there are paralell universes, but they exist in the same place: the universe of a microbe exists within the universe of a human, in parralel, but use the same 'matter'.

it's about how each *expereince* time, not how quickly time moves...

or did i misunderstand...?
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Man is defined by time, and by spirit.

Spirit is time in reverse...

hmm

Perhaps true will would arise. wink
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


man is defined by many things: take your pick. we just as easily defined by gravity: time is sequence, the experience of time depends on information density and rate of sequence.

by your statement: ALL is defined by time and therefore the statement has no value.

spirit is spirit: it is information contained in fields, and is just as subject to time as everything else.

you cannot induce a current in two copper coils thru magnetic interaction without including time, bro.
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It's because we have done this before...over and fucking over...time to get off the loop...

hf
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no spirit, we have not: maybe simlilar, but never before like this.

some lessons take many loops thru the cycle that moves forward in a spiral...

and what to us feels like a long freakin time, may be to the planetary mind, mearly a subjective day.

think about your own repeated mistakes: how many times thru the loop did it take before you got it right: how would those spiral loops feel to the neuraons that make up the process of your thinking?

how many generations of cells lived and died while you figured out how to throw a ball?

or have a functional emotional relationship?

ever wonder what *they* think about how long it takes you to "get it right"?
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

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i'm not i understand u, seestar?

what does that mean, "conquer time"?

do you mean escape our own linear temporal experience? Why does it need to be conquered? why would you want to?

one minute can feel like an eternity, one day can flash by in what feels like seconds.

do you wish to change your expereince of time?

i don't buy interdimentionality, nor parallel universes, the the concepts can make for interesting stories...

i believe in dimensions in experience: microbe, human, planet, galaxy... it's all bout how quicky you gather data and process it. it's quite likely that a planetary 'seccond' lasts a human millina and a microbial age.

there are paralell universes, but they exist in the same place: the universe of a microbe exists within the universe of a human, in parralel, but use the same 'matter'.

it's about how each *expereince* time, not how quickly time moves...

or did i misunderstand...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


My internet crashed...

No... I mean what if at some point, any point, past, present, future, in any imaginable scenario, man or some aspect of, learned to travel within/between 'time' or timelines...

For example, it was said that the 'Hebrews' arrived as 'time travelers' to speak to Thoth in the time of Atlantis.

Whether true or not, I find this intriguing as Time is very flexible as it were...

PersistenceofTim

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