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For example, it was said that the 'Hebrews' arrived as 'time travelers' to speak to Thoth in the time of Atlantis.

Whether true or not, I find this intriguing as Time is very flexible as it were...

PersistenceofTim

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groucho Your mind? [link to www.gematrix.org]

...blown. boss

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There are no aliens.

The wider galaxy is for the stellar and planetary minds.

and all the rest of the aliens that are like us are also bound to their planetary bodies. Sure they exist, but they do not fly around in zippy little metal boxes preying on innocent humans.

that's how i see it anyway.

it just makes sense to me, paticularly in light of the more astounding events that have been imposed upon me.

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hmm

Why do you think information age technology is the limit?

Furthermore... how do you explain Gematria, if not aliens?

[link to www.gematrix.org]

[link to www.gematrix.org]
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


i don't recall saying information tech was a limit. all i said was that we won't be physically leaving this planet in little metal boxes. and that there are no aliens visiting us from afar.

i have no idea what the limit is nor where we are going within out biosphear, but i can tell you that 'tech' is nothing compared with certain magical experiences and that it is quite possible that we will learn that a large portion of our tech is doing us more harm than good.

particularly when when 'good' is measured in quality of life experience and personal development.

...

i have no idea what the conversion of letters to numbers has to do with the subject or why it has anything to do with aliens.

enlighten me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


hmm

Who came up with the idea for Gematria? Who gave them the idea? Why are aliens referenced? etc etc...

But... I think I misinterpreted your first post... hf
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It's because we have done this before...over and fucking over...time to get off the loop...

hf
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no spirit, we have not: maybe simlilar, but never before like this.
some lessons take many loops thru the cycle that moves forward in a spiral...

and what to us feels like a long freakin time, may be to the planetary mind, mearly a subjective day.

think about your own repeated mistakes: how many times thru the loop did it take before you got it right: how would those spiral loops feel to the neuraons that make up the process of your thinking?

how many generations of cells lived and died while you figured out how to throw a ball?

or have a functional emotional relationship?

ever wonder what *they* think about how long it takes you to "get it right"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


similar? means we have...it maybe be a different enviroment but still...memories...choosing to come back. I had a choice...you had a choice...

the rest of your post was just fluff for better word I cannot find...except for the bolded...

hf
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For example, it was said that the 'Hebrews' arrived as 'time travelers' to speak to Thoth in the time of Atlantis.

Whether true or not, I find this intriguing as Time is very flexible as it were...

PersistenceofTim

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


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groucho Your mind? [link to www.gematrix.org]

...blown. boss

...

wink
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


lol
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Man is defined by time, and by spirit.

Spirit is time in reverse...

hmm

Perhaps true will would arise. wink
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


man is defined by many things: take your pick. we just as easily defined by gravity: time is sequence, the experience of time depends on information density and rate of sequence.

by your statement: ALL is defined by time and therefore the statement has no value.

spirit is spirit: it is information contained in fields, and is just as subject to time as everything else.

you cannot induce a current in two copper coils thru magnetic interaction without including time, bro.
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What would be the result of Man conquering 'Time'?

Inter-dimensionally, parallel universe, past, future, what have you...

hmm
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i'm not i understand u, seestar?

what does that mean, "conquer time"?

do you mean escape our own linear temporal experience? Why does it need to be conquered? why would you want to?

one minute can feel like an eternity, one day can flash by in what feels like seconds.

do you wish to change your expereince of time?

i don't buy interdimentionality, nor parallel universes, the the concepts can make for interesting stories...

i believe in dimensions in experience: microbe, human, planet, galaxy... it's all bout how quicky you gather data and process it. it's quite likely that a planetary 'seccond' lasts a human millina and a microbial age.

there are paralell universes, but they exist in the same place: the universe of a microbe exists within the universe of a human, in parralel, but use the same 'matter'.

it's about how each *expereince* time, not how quickly time moves...

or did i misunderstand...?
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My internet crashed...

No... I mean what if at some point, any point, past, present, future, in any imaginable scenario, man or some aspect of, learned to travel within/between 'time' or timelines...

For example, it was said that the 'Hebrews' arrived as 'time travelers' to speak to Thoth in the time of Atlantis.

Whether true or not, I find this intriguing as Time is very flexible as it were...

:PersistenceofTim:

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


i love that image: Dali's work was the first art i ever paid money for...way back in my teens.

i do not think that "time" is flexible, tho the *expereince* of time most certainly is: if you've ever talked with someone who's had a transendetal experience, they will tell you that they experienced what felt like hours or days of time, all the while the clock ticked just mere minutes.

entropy demands and an arrow and heat cannot flow uphill.

there are rules , seestar.

fact of life.
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My internet crashed...

No... I mean what if at some point, any point, past, present, future, in any imaginable scenario, man or some aspect of, learned to travel within/between 'time' or timelines...

For example, it was said that the 'Hebrews' arrived as 'time travelers' to speak to Thoth in the time of Atlantis.

Whether true or not, I find this intriguing as Time is very flexible as it were...

PersistenceofTim

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


i love that image: Dali's work was the first art i ever paid money for...way back in my teens.

i do not think that "time" is flexible, tho the *expereince* of time most certainly is: if you've ever talked with someone who's had a transendetal experience, they will tell you that they experienced what felt like hours or days of time, all the while the clock ticked just mere minutes.

entropy demands and an arrow and heat cannot flow uphill.

there are rules , seestar.

fact of life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


Flexible as in not 'fixed' to a certain unobservable point from a proper vantage point...


I often speak how the day, weeks, and months can stretch into forever.......

I likened it to a seconds just before a car crash, when the 'seconds' suspend into split second response time or just the sensation of s t r e t c h e d time...

I believe we determined at one point in the thread it could be due velocity of incoming stimuli.

:)
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There are no aliens.

The wider galaxy is for the stellar and planetary minds.

and all the rest of the aliens that are like us are also bound to their planetary bodies. Sure they exist, but they do not fly around in zippy little metal boxes preying on innocent humans.

that's how i see it anyway.

it just makes sense to me, paticularly in light of the more astounding events that have been imposed upon me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


hmm

Why do you think information age technology is the limit?

Furthermore... how do you explain Gematria, if not aliens?

[link to www.gematrix.org]

[link to www.gematrix.org]
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


i don't recall saying information tech was a limit. all i said was that we won't be physically leaving this planet in little metal boxes. and that there are no aliens visiting us from afar.

i have no idea what the limit is nor where we are going within out biosphear, but i can tell you that 'tech' is nothing compared with certain magical experiences and that it is quite possible that we will learn that a large portion of our tech is doing us more harm than good.

particularly when when 'good' is measured in quality of life experience and personal development.

...

i have no idea what the conversion of letters to numbers has to do with the subject or why it has anything to do with aliens.

enlighten me.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


hmm

Who came up with the idea for Gematria? Who gave them the idea? Why are aliens referenced? etc etc...

But... I think I misinterpreted your first post... hf
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo



why must an idea that seems amazing to you or "alien" be originated by star travelers? i have witnessed thought in other humans that astounds me, and ideas that emerge from their minds that were totally alien to me.

what if a human learned the language of the dolphins? what sort of ideas do you think *they* have : plenty of aliens right here on Gaia...

there were just as many brilliant minds in the past as there are in the present.

as far as i can tell the only *real* diference between then and now is that more of us exchange our own alien ideas with each other and wit the comming of the information age that data transfer increases at exponential rates.

Gaia's mind is quickenning. i can't help but wonder what will happen when we reach the next threshold.

as a crafter/artist/engineer i know that my best ideas 'came from nowhere" arriving in my mind almost unbidden... did *I* do that? or something else?

how do you know it's not all Her idea to begin with and we just *imagine* ownership, preening in our cleverness that was never ours to begin with.

brilliance = alien and not a one of them could tell you where their ideas come from...

i do not hold ownership over my ideas.

my conscious thought pales in comparison with my inspiration.

from when does the 'light bulb' get lit?


think about that for a bit.
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lol
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You know, I seem to recall you asking Pachy about the Hebrews...

There's is the only language that is "backwards", yes?

...

I once chatted with a fellow on GLP who knew of Sananda the Pleiadian, being able to reference all his names and titles off the cuff, before even I had referenced the name publicly... and additionally, he claimed to be from Sirius B.

While quoting his posts, I noticed something very peculiar...

His posts were backwards, like he had been using a Hebrew keyboard. blink
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brilliance = alien and not a one of them could tell you where their ideas come from...

i do not hold ownership over my ideas.

my conscious thought pales in comparison with my inspiration.

from when does the 'light bulb' get lit?


think about that for a bit.
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hmm

It seems to me you are suffering from over-application of Occam's razor.
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It's because we have done this before...over and fucking over...time to get off the loop...

hf
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no spirit, we have not: maybe simlilar, but never before like this.
some lessons take many loops thru the cycle that moves forward in a spiral...

and what to us feels like a long freakin time, may be to the planetary mind, mearly a subjective day.

think about your own repeated mistakes: how many times thru the loop did it take before you got it right: how would those spiral loops feel to the neuraons that make up the process of your thinking?

how many generations of cells lived and died while you figured out how to throw a ball?

or have a functional emotional relationship?

ever wonder what *they* think about how long it takes you to "get it right"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


similar? means we have...it maybe be a different enviroment but still...memories...choosing to come back. I had a choice...you had a choice...

the rest of your post was just fluff for better word I cannot find...except for the bolded...

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666


we have some choice and in some places choice is ALL we have, but you have far less choice than you think you do.

we are driven by forces that cannot see.

this i know for a fact.

we are not in control: the sooner you realize this truth, the sooner you stop kicking yourself for the bad ones, or patting yourself for the good ones...

letting go of the places where we are driven allows us to focus on the places where we are not.

God (largely) rules us 666, whether we like it not.


'course She too is driven by forces over which She has no control: all the way up the ladder of minds.
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lol
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You know, I seem to recall you asking Pachy about the Hebrews...


There's is the only language that is "backwards", yes?

...

I once chatted with a fellow on GLP who knew of Sananda the Pleiadian, being able to reference all his names and titles off the cuff, before even I had referenced the name publicly... and additionally, he claimed to be from Sirius B.

While quoting his posts, I noticed something very peculiar...

His posts were backwards, like he had been using a Hebrew keyboard. blink
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Yes I did.

Along with several others...

Always the same question.

:)



Backwards yes...

:adonaiform:

 Quoting: Septenary Man


I see this, and a hidden one...

That is yod?

ThePillarsMoon
 Quoting: Seer777



Yod

[link to www.hebrew4christians.com]

'Y'

Masculine symbol.

10 letter Hebrew alphabet.

In summary, the Path of The Hermit – the Path of Yod (which leads to Tiphereth at the very heart of the Cabbalistic Tree) – is a path on which the traveller will encounter all those destructive and generative energies of Nature which are associated with Cronus-Saturn. On this path, sacrifices are made as the old order is broken down, insemination takes place and a period of gestation begins. Past, present and future; the energies of 7 (Saturn’s alchemical number), 9 and 10; and the energies of 4 (Chesed: the material world) and 6 (Tiphereth: The Way) – all must be encountered on this path before a new birth can occur and bring new order and new creative energies to the traveller’s world.

[link to ann.skea.com]

O.o


treeoflife

The Sun...

 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777

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My internet crashed...

No... I mean what if at some point, any point, past, present, future, in any imaginable scenario, man or some aspect of, learned to travel within/between 'time' or timelines...

For example, it was said that the 'Hebrews' arrived as 'time travelers' to speak to Thoth in the time of Atlantis.

Whether true or not, I find this intriguing as Time is very flexible as it were...

:PersistenceofTim:

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


i love that image: Dali's work was the first art i ever paid money for...way back in my teens.

i do not think that "time" is flexible, tho the *expereince* of time most certainly is: if you've ever talked with someone who's had a transendetal experience, they will tell you that they experienced what felt like hours or days of time, all the while the clock ticked just mere minutes.

entropy demands and an arrow and heat cannot flow uphill.

there are rules , seestar.

fact of life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


Flexible as in not 'fixed' to a certain unobservable point from a proper vantage point...


I often speak how the day, weeks, and months can stretch into forever.......

I likened it to a seconds just before a car crash, when the 'seconds' suspend into split second response time or just the sensation of s t r e t c h e d time...

I believe we determined at one point in the thread it could be due velocity of incoming stimuli.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


seems logical, i agree.

tho i am not convinced. i once read a study about a guy who fell off a tall building on purpose while watching a clock to see if the hands moved slower to his perception.

it didn't.

lol

i think it might have more to due with our own internal processing frequency shifting pace.

i know what the transendantal expereince feels like (to me) and i can tell you for a fact that we are able to change our processing rate.

when you gather data at a faster rate, everything else slows down.
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It's because we have done this before...over and fucking over...time to get off the loop...

hf
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no spirit, we have not: maybe simlilar, but never before like this.
some lessons take many loops thru the cycle that moves forward in a spiral...

and what to us feels like a long freakin time, may be to the planetary mind, mearly a subjective day.

think about your own repeated mistakes: how many times thru the loop did it take before you got it right: how would those spiral loops feel to the neuraons that make up the process of your thinking?

how many generations of cells lived and died while you figured out how to throw a ball?

or have a functional emotional relationship?

ever wonder what *they* think about how long it takes you to "get it right"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


similar? means we have...it maybe be a different enviroment but still...memories...choosing to come back. I had a choice...you had a choice...

the rest of your post was just fluff for better word I cannot find...except for the bolded...

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666


we have some choice and in some places choice is ALL we have, but you have far less choice than you think you do.

we are driven by forces that cannot see.

this i know for a fact.

we are not in control: the sooner you realize this truth, the sooner you stop kicking yourself for the bad ones, or patting yourself for the good ones...

letting go of the places where we are driven allows us to focus on the places where we are not.

God (largely) rules us 666, whether we like it not.


'course She too is driven by forces over which She has no control: all the way up the ladder of minds.
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some choice now...before it was similar...make up your mind...

yes free will right? like I said before I chose to come back...

I know about the unseen forces...damn...I feel like I'm back in high school lol...sorry...and... not in control...we are slaves to the system and beyond that...okay and?

hf
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You know, I seem to recall you asking Pachy about the Hebrews...

There's is the only language that is "backwards", yes?

...

I once chatted with a fellow on GLP who knew of Sananda the Pleiadian, being able to reference all his names and titles off the cuff, before even I had referenced the name publicly... and additionally, he claimed to be from Sirius B.

While quoting his posts, I noticed something very peculiar...

His posts were backwards, like he had been using a Hebrew keyboard. blink
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


it is possible for some humans to access the planetary data sphere (memory) and within that shpere lies all the knowledge and experience of every human that ever lived.

these are our eternal 'spirits' held within the mind of God.
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when you gather data at a faster rate, everything else slows down.
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Nirvana-shakti means "power from the void". thumbs

That is, Zero-Point energy is tapped with Crown Chakra meditation.
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Zero point, what does that mean?
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it is possible for some humans to access the planetary data sphere (memory) and within that shpere lies all the knowledge and experience of every human that ever lived.

these are our eternal 'spirits' held within the mind of God.
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I know.... wink That "sphere"... is represented by Gematria.
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Zero point, what does that mean?
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Well a point-source of energy would be like an LED.

Now imagine that same energy with "Zero" point of emergence.

Where does the energy come from? hmm
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brilliance = alien and not a one of them could tell you where their ideas come from...

i do not hold ownership over my ideas.

my conscious thought pales in comparison with my inspiration.

from when does the 'light bulb' get lit?


think about that for a bit.
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hmm

It seems to me you are suffering from over-application of Occam's razor.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


in that i choose the sensible over the wild.

there's quite enough 'wild' in this world without creating more, bro.

the real magic is quite simple and obvious once you look at it the right way.

no need to invent aliens.


but don't let me burst your bubble....
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How does zero have a point, what about the infinite singularity, what does this really mean?
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no need to invent aliens.


but don't let me burst your bubble....
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I don't think "aliens" would care if we decided they didn't exist.

There is no need to "invent" emotion, is there?

So why do we perceive it?
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How does zero have a point, what about the infinite singularity, what does this really mean?
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Zero is a Mirror. peace
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How does zero have a point, what about the infinite singularity, what does this really mean?
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Zero is a Mirror. peace
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A mirror of what, infinite? So lets say I have a big ol black hole, a singularity, is there any mass within it?
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How does zero have a point, what about the infinite singularity, what does this really mean?
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Zero is a Mirror. peace
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yes...

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Is that even possible?
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no need to invent aliens.


but don't let me burst your bubble....
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I don't think "aliens" would care if we decided they didn't exist.

There is no need to "invent" emotion, is there?

So why do we perceive it?
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


we experience emotion every day, it is an observable empirical fact.

aliens are not.

and besides: the one is metaphysical, while the other should be (if they existed) actual physical stuff: apples and oranges.


i *see* and experience emotion every day: i have never seen an alien nor met or talked to read about any observable aliens.


i tire of this argument.
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What about the opposite universe of einstein, that is the particles that can never quite decelerate to the speed of light? LOL! What a joke.

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no spirit, we have not: maybe simlilar, but never before like this.
some lessons take many loops thru the cycle that moves forward in a spiral...

and what to us feels like a long freakin time, may be to the planetary mind, mearly a subjective day.

think about your own repeated mistakes: how many times thru the loop did it take before you got it right: how would those spiral loops feel to the neuraons that make up the process of your thinking?

how many generations of cells lived and died while you figured out how to throw a ball?

or have a functional emotional relationship?

ever wonder what *they* think about how long it takes you to "get it right"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


similar? means we have...it maybe be a different enviroment but still...memories...choosing to come back. I had a choice...you had a choice...

the rest of your post was just fluff for better word I cannot find...except for the bolded...

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666


we have some choice and in some places choice is ALL we have, but you have far less choice than you think you do.

we are driven by forces that cannot see.

this i know for a fact.

we are not in control: the sooner you realize this truth, the sooner you stop kicking yourself for the bad ones, or patting yourself for the good ones...

letting go of the places where we are driven allows us to focus on the places where we are not.

God (largely) rules us 666, whether we like it not.


'course She too is driven by forces over which She has no control: all the way up the ladder of minds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


some choice now...before it was similar...make up your mind...

yes free will right? like I said before I chose to come back...

I know about the unseen forces...damn...I feel like I'm back in high school lol...sorry...and... not in control...we are slaves to the system and beyond that...okay and?

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666



you misunderstand me 666.


i choose to let this one go: it is way past my bed time.


may u find your peace.
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02/27/2013 01:49 AM
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Re: X Marks the Spot
Is that even possible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32853395


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anything is possible...

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