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Good morning everyone.


I just saw this and wanted to share...

Parable of the Butterfly

A man found a cocoon of a butterfly. One day a small opening appeared. He sat and watched the butterfly for several hours as it struggled to force its body through that little hole.

Then it seemed to stop making any progress. It appeared as if it had gotten as far as it could, and it could go no further.

So the man decided to help the butterfly. He took a pair of scissors and snipped off the remaining bit of the cocoon.

The butterfly then emerged easily. But it had a swollen body and small, shriveled wings.

The man continued to watch the butterfly because he expected that, at any moment, the wings would enlarge and expand to be able to support the body, which would contract in time.

Neither happened! In fact, the butterfly spent the rest of its life crawling around with a swollen body and shriveled wings. It never was able to fly.

What the man, in his kindness and haste, did not understand was that the restricting cocoon and the struggle required for the butterfly to get through the tiny opening were God's way of forcing fluid from the body of the butterfly into its wings so that it would be ready for flight once it achieved its freedom from the cocoon.

Sometimes struggles are exactly what we need in our lives. If God allowed us to go through our lives without any obstacles, it would cripple us.

We would not be as strong as what we could have been. We could never fly!

I asked for Strength.........And God gave me Difficulties to make me strong.

I asked for Wisdom.........And God gave me Problems to solve.

I asked for Prosperity.........And God gave me Brain and Brawn to work.

I asked for Courage.........And God gave me Danger to overcome.

I asked for Love.........And God gave me Troubled people to help.

I asked for Favors.........And God gave me Opportunities.

I received nothing I wanted ........And everything I needed!

[link to www.christianhomesite.com]
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:GlassWing:

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I liked this. I was looking up butterfly myths a little last night. I came across this site:
[link to www.kendalluk.com]

afro
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"Observing the “self” very carefully, it can then be seen that the ‘movement’ of self-reflection creates both a separation from the space-time reality itself as well as a localized ‘spatiality’ of consciousness consisting of a “self”/“not self” "

from GLP'r 4Q529: [link to science-of-consciousness.blogspot.com]

seems related to the "all that is me and all that is not me" you keep on about. Im still reading it but wanted to bring it up here in an effort to clear things up for both.


fascinating! whadaya think?
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Ancient underwater forest off Alabama is much older than scientists thought
[link to blog.al.com]

Perhaps a few more finds like this would bring all carbon dating into doubt, even in the mainstream. It is ridiculous to think that these tree remnants are 50,000 years old. And this is a big warning to those people who follow the carbon datings to constuct a catastrophic timeline.

What is paticularly disturbing is that a supposedly 20,000 years ago site may be further back in time than a supposedly 50,000 years ago site. Ancient local conditions probably determine the carbon isotope ratios. Really the ash from past volcanic eruptions give us the best hope of determining what went before this eruption and what went after. Then throw in the catastrophic assumption that a lot of volcanoes went off at the same time, and maybe we can start to get a useful timeline.
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Good morning everyone.


I just saw this and wanted to share...

Parable of the Butterfly

A man found a cocoon of a butterfly. One day a small opening appeared. He sat and watched the butterfly for several hours as it struggled to force its body through that little hole.

Then it seemed to stop making any progress. It appeared as if it had gotten as far as it could, and it could go no further.

So the man decided to help the butterfly. He took a pair of scissors and snipped off the remaining bit of the cocoon.

The butterfly then emerged easily. But it had a swollen body and small, shriveled wings.

The man continued to watch the butterfly because he expected that, at any moment, the wings would enlarge and expand to be able to support the body, which would contract in time.

Neither happened! In fact, the butterfly spent the rest of its life crawling around with a swollen body and shriveled wings. It never was able to fly.

What the man, in his kindness and haste, did not understand was that the restricting cocoon and the struggle required for the butterfly to get through the tiny opening were God's way of forcing fluid from the body of the butterfly into its wings so that it would be ready for flight once it achieved its freedom from the cocoon.

Sometimes struggles are exactly what we need in our lives. If God allowed us to go through our lives without any obstacles, it would cripple us.

We would not be as strong as what we could have been. We could never fly!

I asked for Strength.........And God gave me Difficulties to make me strong.

I asked for Wisdom.........And God gave me Problems to solve.

I asked for Prosperity.........And God gave me Brain and Brawn to work.

I asked for Courage.........And God gave me Danger to overcome.

I asked for Love.........And God gave me Troubled people to help.

I asked for Favors.........And God gave me Opportunities.

I received nothing I wanted ........And everything I needed!

[link to www.christianhomesite.com]
 Quoting: RaXz


GlassWing

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I liked this. I was looking up butterfly myths a little last night. I came across this site:
[link to www.kendalluk.com]

afro
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like the honey bee led us to non material structures and electric fields and snakes/serpents are electricity
and
information is encoded in the use of familiar living things in our environment thus we get the synergistic symbolism of their use by our ancients information encoders when our own discoveries prompt us to see what they are telling

yes

feels like we have covered this before
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"all that is me and all that is not me"

Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)
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"Observing the “self” very carefully, it can then be seen that the ‘movement’ of self-reflection creates both a separation from the space-time reality itself as well as a localized ‘spatiality’ of consciousness consisting of a “self”/“not self” "

from GLP'r 4Q529: [link to science-of-consciousness.blogspot.com]

seems related to the "all that is me and all that is not me" you keep on about. Im still reading it but wanted to bring it up here in an effort to clear things up for both.


fascinating! whadaya think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778


the wording is outdated
self reflection in something that is not you is emotionally possible only if that which is not you is "intelligent" like you because if it is not so the analogy is pointless
our environment is intelligent thus there are 2
you and it
which are never mirrors of traditional thought as in:
you are what you are looking at
you are not

space-time reality as believed does not exist and the evidence for it`s non existence is still shocking it`s believers

localized ‘spatiality’ of consciousness consisting of a “self”/“not self” "is trying to tell people you feel yourself here on earth but if you go outside of earth you no longer feel yourself you feel what believers feel must exist, you realize you are illusion and really you are god , the 1
in practice the opposite occurs
people that do leave earth and go into space are generally struck with the singular affect experience where they see how all functions including themselves as themselves functioning within what they see
and
they are generally prompted upon return to earth to change all that was believed before they possessed the non local experience

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"Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)"

I cant answer that as I have yet to identify the shadow. mine seems to be a bit more complicated than most. that or I am a bit less complicated, but I am working on it.


assuming I knew this shadow then where could I put it?

thanks
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Good morning

hf
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"Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)"

I cant answer that as I have yet to identify the shadow. mine seems to be a bit more complicated than most. that or I am a bit less complicated, but I am working on it.


assuming I knew this shadow then where could I put it?

thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778


your shadow can only be the impression you make on that which is not you

what else can it be tounge
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Good morning

hf
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good morning
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like the honey bee led us to non material structures and electric fields and snakes/serpents are electricity
and
information is encoded in the use of familiar living things in our environment thus we get the synergistic symbolism of their use by our ancients information encoders when our own discoveries prompt us to see what they are telling

yes

feels like we have covered this before
 Quoting: aether


But haven't understood what the butterfly symbolized scientifically. In the link, says beauty, which goes back to Venus and Lucifer and the lumen in the body.scratching

This has me wondering how many structures there really is for the universe to function.
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Good morning

hf
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good morning
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How is the weather in London?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The lumen (symbol: lm) is the SI derived unit of luminous flux, a measure of the total "amount" of visible light emitted by a source. Luminous flux differs from power (radiant flux) in that luminous flux measurements reflect the varying sensitivity of the human eye to different wavelengths of light, while radiant flux measurements indicate the total power of all light emitted, independent of the eye's ability to perceive it. A lux is one lumen per square meter.
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I want to try an experiment to prove this (my environment IS me) but my reasoning creates fear of this.

my environment includes agressive and hostile inhabitants of a different human race.

If my experiment were to fail it would most probably be tragic.

Im stuck here for now.
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like the honey bee led us to non material structures and electric fields and snakes/serpents are electricity
and
information is encoded in the use of familiar living things in our environment thus we get the synergistic symbolism of their use by our ancients information encoders when our own discoveries prompt us to see what they are telling

yes

feels like we have covered this before
 Quoting: aether


But haven't understood what the butterfly symbolized scientifically. In the link, says beauty, which goes back to Venus and Lucifer and the lumen in the body.scratching

This has me wondering how many structures there really is for the universe to function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


The caterpillar digests itself and surviving cells change/transforms
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not good news for our ritual elite, our sun is not providing assistance and our planets don`t possess ability
so
we are just entering our full moon (3.27.203) 3 days either side quaky zone and noting our of normal on our horizons tounge
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Good morning

hf
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good morning
 Quoting: aether


How is the weather in London?
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London, UK
Saturday 16:00
Light snow
1 degree

long winter tounge
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not good news for our ritual elite, our sun is not providing assistance and our planets don`t possess ability
so
we are just entering our full moon (3.27.203) 3 days either side quaky zone and noting our of normal on our horizons tounge
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Does that mean they will be scattering? Like running for their bunkers?
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like the honey bee led us to non material structures and electric fields and snakes/serpents are electricity
and
information is encoded in the use of familiar living things in our environment thus we get the synergistic symbolism of their use by our ancients information encoders when our own discoveries prompt us to see what they are telling

yes

feels like we have covered this before
 Quoting: aether


But haven't understood what the butterfly symbolized scientifically. In the link, says beauty, which goes back to Venus and Lucifer and the lumen in the body.scratching

This has me wondering how many structures there really is for the universe to function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


as in:
how many shapes can we (people) become over linear time in this location due to environment alteration

our beliefs have yet to address this but our myths tell us this is true

our giant sized archeology/ancestry confirms this too
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popping to store tounge
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like the honey bee led us to non material structures and electric fields and snakes/serpents are electricity
and
information is encoded in the use of familiar living things in our environment thus we get the synergistic symbolism of their use by our ancients information encoders when our own discoveries prompt us to see what they are telling

yes

feels like we have covered this before
 Quoting: aether


But haven't understood what the butterfly symbolized scientifically. In the link, says beauty, which goes back to Venus and Lucifer and the lumen in the body.scratching

This has me wondering how many structures there really is for the universe to function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32430667


The caterpillar digests itself and surviving cells change/transforms
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4798669


New Body is Formed

During the first three to four days, the chrysalis is a little bag filled with rich fluid.
[link to www.ehow.co.uk]

I read another link that talked about resurrection and this 3 days made me think of 3 days of darkness.

So is the earth digesting itself or going to?hiding or is that what will lead to the golden age? Just thinking, lol
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"Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)"

I cant answer that as I have yet to identify the shadow. mine seems to be a bit more complicated than most. that or I am a bit less complicated, but I am working on it.


assuming I knew this shadow then where could I put it?

thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778


your shadow can only be the impression you make on that which is not you

what else can it be tounge
 Quoting: aether


think of your physical shadow
it cannot exist without you
it cannot exist without an outside of you environment containing directed light
it moves when you move in relationship parallel
if you see your shadow, you know it is you and not just a trick of light and also not a toaster
but you would put it in the same category as the toaster?
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not good news for our ritual elite, our sun is not providing assistance and our planets don`t possess ability
so
we are just entering our full moon (3.27.203) 3 days either side quaky zone and noting our of normal on our horizons tounge
 Quoting: aether


suspicious0bservers is the nobody. Someone help that guy!
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That makes me think if a day is a thousand years..them 3 would be three thousand years man has been in darkness..food for thought
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"Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)"

I cant answer that as I have yet to identify the shadow. mine seems to be a bit more complicated than most. that or I am a bit less complicated, but I am working on it.


assuming I knew this shadow then where could I put it?

thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778


your shadow can only be the impression you make on that which is not you

what else can it be tounge
 Quoting: aether


think of your physical shadow
it cannot exist without you
it cannot exist without an outside of you environment containing directed light
it moves when you move in relationship parallel
if you see your shadow, you know it is you and not just a trick of light and also not a toaster
but you would put it in the same category as the toaster?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36707105


:)


Reminds me...

can`t get clearance for this YET

Is a Solar eclipse visible from the ISS? I don't see any images or even mention of such, so I ran Celestia and set the Moon as the target, looking from the ISS. Sure enough, on Nov 13 2012, at 1:08 PM PST, the full eclipse occurred. So why has an eclipse never been imaged from the ISS? Just too boring for the astronauts I suppose, what other reason could there be, it was nap time and they didn't want to loose beauty sleep?
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether




Perhaps it's a matter of perspective.

Vantage point.


For instance last week while I was at the beach house, my friends and I were standing on the deck after it had gotten dark.

The light behind us was casting our shadows in front of us, onto the fog a few feet away.

I noted how dark my shadow appeared compared to theirs, which were very light.

So I decided to make mention of it.

JB then said how from his perspective, HIS shadow was the dark one, while ours were light.

I realized then that shadow is merely based on perspective.

:)
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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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not good news for our ritual elite, our sun is not providing assistance and our planets don`t possess ability
so
we are just entering our full moon (3.27.203) 3 days either side quaky zone and noting our of normal on our horizons tounge
 Quoting: aether


From this, found this,

What four aether.

If the south became the north and the north became the south. Would perception be upside down? The fastest way between to distances is folding the distances in half. Then coming from outside through. Even the distance that is folded, can apear like eternity even in an instant.

If up is written down and down is wrtitte. Up and right left and left right. Perhaps the vector is in folding each to the appropriate vector. Thus reading in omni direction instantantly.

Now leave me be... im reading childerens books.
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it becomes the dimension it describes thus you enter the fifth direction , that which the 4 contain
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Correct. Draw a swastica, fold it, hold it to the light. You see a "V" on the side that is blank. No diffetent then what is represented in thd pyramids.

V or five or tilted 7 or greater then.. below the pyrymids is greater then what is presented in viewing 4 directions. Giving your eye/I's depth perception.

Actually 9 -10 is where you are headed.. but at the moment seeing past 4 to 5 is a good step in the "right" direction.

Sometimes the best answers come from viewing a blank sheet of paper. In the still, quill mind of the observer.

It is only in added dimension that it can be seen properly.

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"Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)"

I cant answer that as I have yet to identify the shadow. mine seems to be a bit more complicated than most. that or I am a bit less complicated, but I am working on it.


assuming I knew this shadow then where could I put it?

thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778


your shadow can only be the impression you make on that which is not you

what else can it be tounge
 Quoting: aether


think of your physical shadow
it cannot exist without you
it cannot exist without an outside of you environment containing directed light
it moves when you move in relationship parallel
if you see your shadow, you know it is you and not just a trick of light and also not a toaster
but you would put it in the same category as the toaster?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36707105


Sometimes yellow eyes in darkness looks like an sinister entity but in reality a cars headlights reflecting off the wall.scratching
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That makes me think if a day is a thousand years..them 3 would be three thousand years man has been in darkness..food for thought
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And food is what we digest.
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That makes me think if a day is a thousand years..them 3 would be three thousand years man has been in darkness..food for thought
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And food is what we digest.
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unless we are a caterpillar, lol

just realized pillar is in the wordafro
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"Where do you put your shadow?
(ie., relationship/interaction between)"

I cant answer that as I have yet to identify the shadow. mine seems to be a bit more complicated than most. that or I am a bit less complicated, but I am working on it.


assuming I knew this shadow then where could I put it?

thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29203778


your shadow can only be the impression you make on that which is not you

what else can it be tounge
 Quoting: aether


think of your physical shadow
it cannot exist without you
it cannot exist without an outside of you environment containing directed light
it moves when you move in relationship parallel
if you see your shadow, you know it is you and not just a trick of light and also not a toaster
but you would put it in the same category as the toaster?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36707105


where do you put your thoughts?
do you separate your awareness (you) from your perceptions (interface from environment) from abstractions/imaginings that are unique to you and had no existence before you?
when your thoughts enter the environment and make an impression are they no longer you?
what of the potential of thoughts before thinking separate from the psychological shadow of thoughts you will not think?

sorry - philosophical ranting at all type categories
popping off to dance
that should take care of ittounge


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