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What a horrible weekend.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Lots of people got their spiritual asses kicked this weekend, sun effects and coming off a full moon, hopefully something constructive will come out of your outburst, not always the most efficient way to usher in change but holding in stuff like that WILL eventually spill out unfiltered.
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That's what I was hoping for when I went through the outburst. Trying to make it constructive, though it was kicking my ass.
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which begs the question, who are you changing for? yourself, others, G-d? Your journey is your own. what do you wish to manifest? the smallest leak will sink a boat.
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Originally, Kabbalistic knowledge was believed to be an integral part of the Oral Torah (see also Aggadah), given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai around 13th century BCE, though there is a view that Kabbalah began with Adam.

When the Israelites arrived at their destination and settled in Canaan, for a few centuries the esoteric knowledge was referred to by its aspect practice—meditation Hitbonenut Rebbe Nachman of Breslov's Hitbodedut , translated as "being alone" or "isolating oneself", or by a different term describing the actual, desired goal of the practice—prophecy .
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the purpose of the kabbalah is the prompting of altered state (logos/pinch affect) to enable pre cognition (prophesy)
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Thors hammer found...joke or truth?
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Originally, Kabbalistic knowledge was believed to be an integral part of the Oral Torah (see also Aggadah), given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai around 13th century BCE, though there is a view that Kabbalah began with Adam.

When the Israelites arrived at their destination and settled in Canaan, for a few centuries the esoteric knowledge was referred to by its aspect practice—meditation Hitbonenut Rebbe Nachman of Breslov's Hitbodedut , translated as "being alone" or "isolating oneself", or by a different term describing the actual, desired goal of the practice—prophecy .
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the purpose of the kabbalah is the prompting of altered state (logos/pinch affect) to enable pre cognition (prophesy)
 Quoting: aether


In early rabbinic Judaism (the early centuries of the first millennium CE), the terms Ma'aseh Bereshit ("Works of Creation") and Ma'aseh Merkabah ("Works of the Divine Throne/Chariot") clearly indicate the Midrashic nature of these speculations; they are really based upon Genesis 1 and Book of Ezekiel 1:4–28; while the names Sitrei Torah (Hidden aspects of the Torah) (Talmud Hag. 13a) and Razei Torah (Torah secrets) (Ab. vi. 1) indicate their character as secret lore. An additional term also expanded Jewish esoteric knowledge, namely Chochmah Nistara (Hidden wisdom).

Talmudic doctrine forbade the public teaching of esoteric doctrines and warned of their dangers. In the Mishnah (Hagigah 2:1), rabbis were warned to teach the mystical creation doctrines only to one student at a time [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: observation


this tells us that the storyline given to "the people" by moses was not the complete story and the complete story was kept secret. as in:
one story for people to live "under" and another story for the leaders whom the people lived under
under, as in:
guided by

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Thors hammer found...joke or truth?
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thors hammer is lightening bolt
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Originally, Kabbalistic knowledge was believed to be an integral part of the Oral Torah (see also Aggadah), given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai around 13th century BCE, though there is a view that Kabbalah began with Adam.

When the Israelites arrived at their destination and settled in Canaan, for a few centuries the esoteric knowledge was referred to by its aspect practice—meditation Hitbonenut Rebbe Nachman of Breslov's Hitbodedut , translated as "being alone" or "isolating oneself", or by a different term describing the actual, desired goal of the practice—prophecy .
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the purpose of the kabbalah is the prompting of altered state (logos/pinch affect) to enable pre cognition (prophesy)
 Quoting: aether


In early rabbinic Judaism (the early centuries of the first millennium CE), the terms Ma'aseh Bereshit ("Works of Creation") and Ma'aseh Merkabah ("Works of the Divine Throne/Chariot") clearly indicate the Midrashic nature of these speculations; they are really based upon Genesis 1 and Book of Ezekiel 1:4–28; while the names Sitrei Torah (Hidden aspects of the Torah) (Talmud Hag. 13a) and Razei Torah (Torah secrets) (Ab. vi. 1) indicate their character as secret lore. An additional term also expanded Jewish esoteric knowledge, namely Chochmah Nistara (Hidden wisdom).

Talmudic doctrine forbade the public teaching of esoteric doctrines and warned of their dangers. In the Mishnah (Hagigah 2:1), rabbis were warned to teach the mystical creation doctrines only to one student at a time [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: observation


this tells us that the storyline given to "the people" by moses was not the complete story and the complete story was kept secret. as in:
one story for people to live "under" and another story for the leaders whom the people lived under
under, as in:
guided by
 Quoting: aether


so the overall affect is people were encouraged to stop practicing altered state themselves in return for "written laws" to satisfy their spiritual expectations while the law givers continued to practiced altered state
thus the shamanistic affect was contained within a singular structure of spiritual leadership
so the shamanistic tradition was maintained but instead of each village , town etc possessing one or more shaman a whole nation was constructed within a singular shamanic system/structure of governorship
this is the pyramid system of shamanic rule continued through out our societies
it is not called shamanistic and it is packaged under varies names but the principle has remained the same since our golden age began to disappear
the god king tradition is shaman structure wrapped in another story line to appeal to nationalistic structures of scale

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:)

Good Morning everyone.

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For the Egyptians it was the creator-king Ra, for the Sumerians it was the high god An, from whom kingship descended. Similarly, the Hindu Brahma, the Chinese Huang-ti, Mexican Quetzalcoatl, Mayan Itzam Na and numerous counterparts among other nations, all preside over a paradisal epoch, while establishing the ideals and principles of kingship.

In Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, China, Greece, Italy, northern Europe, pre-Columbian Mexico and Central America--in fact, wherever the institution of kingship arose--the general rule is that royal genealogies lead back to this exemplary ruler, celebrated as the first in a sacred line of kings. The different myths recount in rich detail how the god built a great temple or city in primeval times, invented the alphabet, or taught a new language to a pre-literate race. They say it was he who invented the wheel, introduced the science of agriculture, instituted laws, and taught the true religion--in short, brought to a barbarous race all of the arts of civilization.

There is also a crucial connection here. This "ancestor-king" is so completely identified with the Golden Age that it is impossible to separate the one myth from the other. There is no Golden Age without a founding king, no founding king without a Golden Age.

The fabulous chronology of Egyptian kings or pharaohs offers a telling example. In his sweeping history of ancient Egypt, the Greek historian Herodotus enumerates the early lineage of kings. He tells us that there was a first king of Egypt, and his name was Helios. This first king of Egypt was not a mere mortal! He was a celestial power.

Of course Herodotus was simply translating an Egyptian name into Greek. For the Egyptians, the institution of kingship began with the rule of the primeval sun god Atum or Ra, who, prior to his retirement from the world, founded the Zep Tepi, the First Time, or Golden Age.

In Egypt all of the kingship rites point backwards to the age of Ra, a supreme god celebrated from one end of Egypt to the other as the prototype of kings. Indeed, every historical king's or pharaoh's authority derived from a connection to the ancestral king, for as the best Egyptologists have pointed out, the pharaoh was accredited as such by the claim that the blood of Atum-Ra coursed through his veins.

In rites deeply rooted in Egyptian cosmology, each new king symbolically ascended the throne of Ra, took as spouse Ra's own mistress, the mother goddess, wielded Ra's scepter, built temples and cities modeled after Ra's temple or city in the sky, adorned himself with the beard of the god, wore the crown of Ra as his own, and defeated neighboring enemies in just the way that Ra had defeated the hordes of darkness or chaos in the Zep Tepi. Identification of local king and celestial prototype was absolute.

Such is the universal tradition. Every king was, in a magical way, the Universal Monarch reborn. And this is why the chroniclers of king took such pains to establish the unbroken line. Only by proclaiming that the local king carried the blood of his predecessor, the Universal Monarch, could they certify his suitability for the prescribed function of kings.

The ancient Sumerians repeatedly proclaimed that kingship had descended directly from the creator-king An, the most ancient and highest god of the pantheon, and the revered founder of the Golden Age.

Consider the myths and images of the Hindu Brahma, Manu or Yama, the Iranian Yima, Danish Frodhi, or Chinese Huang-Ti--all models of the good king, ruling over a primitive paradise. The respective cultures esteemed these mythical figures as prototypes. In later ages the chroniclers have such figures ruling on earth. But in the earliest traditions the kingdom is in the sky, and the ancient rule of the Universal Monarch is one of the most pervasive archetypes of world mythology.

Natives of Mexico insisted that the great god Quetzalcoatl, a sun god who ruled before the present sun, was their first king and founder of the kingship rites. He not only introduced all of the arts of civilization, but presided over an ancient paradise.

The ancient Maya proclaimed that their once-spectacular civilization had its origins in the rule of the creator-king and god of the Golden Age, Itzam Na. At the center of Mayan culture, stood the sovereign chief, announcing himself as something like "the King of Kings and ruler of the world, regent on earth of the great Itzam Na."

The leading Mayan expert, J. Eric Thompson, saw this as an "inflated notion of grandeur….a sort of divine right of kings which would have turned James I green with envy." And yet throughout the ancient world, one encounters this divine "grandeur" of kings at every turn.

The original concept may appear as self flattery, but it actually has more to do with a burden of kings, the requirement that the king live up to the mythical aura of the revered predecessor. Never was there a king in early times that did not wear the dress of a mythical god--the model of the good ruler. Whatever the celestial, founding king had achieved, it was the duty of the present king, pharaoh, or emperor to duplicate, at least through symbolic repetition. For such was the first test of a good king.

This historical burden of kings will explain why every king was expected to renew the primeval era of peace and plenty.

Why, for example, was the Egyptian Pharaoh Thutmose III so eager to announce that he had restored conditions "as they were in the beginning", in the Zep Tepi or Golden Age of Ra? Or why did the Pharaoh Amenhotep III congratulate himself so for having made the country "flourish as in primeval times..."? The Pharaoh was expected to repeat the achievements of the celestial prototype.

In the same way, when the Sumerian king Dungi ascended the throne, it was declared that a champion had arisen to restore the original Paradise.. Indeed, every Sumerian king was expected to reproduce the wonders of "That Day," or the "Year of Abundance"--the Golden Age of An. When the famous Assyrian king Assurbanipal took the throne, the chroniclers proclaimed that "the harvest was plentiful, the corn was abundant. . .the cattle multiplied exceedingly." For such was the accreditation of a good king.

Among the Hebrews, the expectation was continually expressed that the king would introduce a new Golden Age. The Irish King, according to the respected expert J. A. MacCulloch, ruled under the same expectation: "Prosperity was supposed to characterize every good king's reign in Ireland," MacCulloch writes, and "the result is precisely that which everywhere marked the golden age."

This is, of course, a very familiar idea. In the words of the eminent psychoanalyst, Carl Jung, the ancient king was "the magical source of welfare and prosperity." It's interesting how often scholars have noticed the theme, without explaining it. How did this universal idea arise--that the earth is fruitful under the good king?

According to the myths themselves, the ideals of kingship were a mirror of the life and personality of the great celestial king whose rule brought abundance and cosmic harmony. Hence, the same state of things should accompany that king's successors who share in the blood-line and charisma of the great predecessor, whether that predecessor is called Ra or An, Quetzalcoatl or Itzam Na. [link to thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: Shaman


thus no matter what the created local storyline is we can now look at this /z\ as organized shaman tradition packaged into local laws and customs that were required and desired because when our golden age disappeared people generally lost their own shaman abilities thus needed the assistance of anyone whom still maintained some reasonable shamanic ability to bridge the now visible gap between themselves and their environment

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Morning seerstar hugs


I have been thrown out of here for the past hour or so on server issues.

Now must dash out, havengood day all.

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:)

Good Morning everyone.

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good morning

tounge
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Morning seerstar hugs


I have been thrown out of here for the past hour or so on server issues.

Now must dash out, havengood day all.

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hmm


Good morning.

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:)

Good Morning everyone.

coffee4



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good morning

tounge
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flower


Happy 'Fools' day.

thefool

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:)

Good Morning everyone.

coffee4



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good morning

tounge
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flower


Happy 'Fools' day.

thefool

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


we knew a fool
who knew it all
that no one got
until they forgot
then all desired
but fool retired
what a silly lot

happy fools day

ltana
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flower


Happy 'Fools' day.

thefool

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we knew a fool
who knew it all
that no one got
until they forgot
then all desired
but fool retired
what a silly lot

happy fools day

ltana
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tounge




hmm

What this post need is seer. She has tons of purple pics.
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Good timing.

As I just posted this...

The two 'stars'...I have wondered.

Betelgeuse1

Google SkySirius

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Red+Blue=Purple


thefool

hf
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singularity

scarabee

hmm
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In a nut shell, perfect.
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What a horrible weekend.
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Lots of people got their spiritual asses kicked this weekend, sun effects and coming off a full moon, hopefully something constructive will come out of your outburst, not always the most efficient way to usher in change but holding in stuff like that WILL eventually spill out unfiltered.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


That's what I was hoping for when I went through the outburst. Trying to make it constructive, though it was kicking my ass.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


which begs the question, who are you changing for? yourself, others, G-d? Your journey is your own. what do you wish to manifest? the smallest leak will sink a boat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


You are either a dam or with the flow. It is all in transition and the players a dream of each the other.
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Thread: Question about the Big Pileup on Interstate 77 Sunday

I was on I-77 driving South on my way to Raleigh - about 15 miles from the accident when I heard a blurb about a pile up around Fancy Gap and they suggested avoiding the area, I heard nothing else about it from multiple stations because I wanted to get more info and find out it I should really avoid this. I decided to take the "back roads." I Got off on 52, just North of Hillsville and took that all the way to I-40.
Ran into blinding Fog coming down the mountain-it's no joke--fog + winding country roads = big crashes. My intuition (and Garmin) paid off big time! I'm glad I took the scenic route!
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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Damn, I've been having so many issues with Glp lately.

At home I have to go on twice before it lets me on. Now, today at work, it was letting me on, now it just times out.


Frustrating all these connection issues.
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Damn, I've been having so many issues with Glp lately.

At home I have to go on twice before it lets me on. Now, today at work, it was letting me on, now it just times out.


Frustrating all these connection issues.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Truly.


Touch
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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What a horrible weekend.
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Good morning sept, everyone. (:

Interesting. I felt mostly real good through it. I had some nice "you're on the right track" kind of syncs friday. Saturday I felt a really 'calm sea', brushing off some of my 'anxiety'.
Yesterday I felt some weights being lifted, always something nice to have. That might have been related to my decision to finally start writing down some of the stuff I've gone through over the last months


Hope stuff works out well for you sept (:


Happy 1st april!

hf



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Oh...GLP is once again a blocked site at work. What the hell.
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On another note...

I was wondering if anyone here has been experiencing an increase in the amount of 'reading' one does in the dream state.

Seems I spent last night reading. Which is not uncommon for myself, but I was wondering how many others read in their dreams. Not just words, but paragraphs.

hmm
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Oh...GLP is once again a blocked site at work. What the hell.
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not meant as an attack... can't help myself; unless you are self-employed/or work for GLP?, shouldn't you be working at work? 1dunno1
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Thread: Question about the Big Pileup on Interstate 77 Sunday

I was on I-77 driving South on my way to Raleigh - about 15 miles from the accident when I heard a blurb about a pile up around Fancy Gap and they suggested avoiding the area, I heard nothing else about it from multiple stations because I wanted to get more info and find out it I should really avoid this. I decided to take the "back roads." I Got off on 52, just North of Hillsville and took that all the way to I-40.
Ran into blinding Fog coming down the mountain-it's no joke--fog + winding country roads = big crashes. My intuition (and Garmin) paid off big time! I'm glad I took the scenic route!
 Quoting: Reckless Driver 24817147

 Quoting: Seer777


makes you think
prompts me to think of moses going up the mountain to be "told" how to construct the container for the arc having removed the arc from it`s container within the great pyramid
thus the new container for the arc is an integral part of the new storyline inclusive of structures to "worship" within by the elite priesthood to be formed in full view of the people to be ruled by the new laws but at the same time hidden from view to keep secret the system being utilized
thus the structures and traditions created permitted the new storyline to function within a centralized society (nation)

this also tells us the egyptians at this time were living in the shadow of what was left of their golden age society because they could not replace the arc when it was taken out of the great pyramid
they were using stuff and placing their own stories over what they were using with no idea how to replicate it what caused it to function
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good afternoon aether and all,,

a fools salutations indeed

much love,,
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Thread: Question about the Big Pileup on Interstate 77 Sunday

I was on I-77 driving South on my way to Raleigh - about 15 miles from the accident when I heard a blurb about a pile up around Fancy Gap and they suggested avoiding the area, I heard nothing else about it from multiple stations because I wanted to get more info and find out it I should really avoid this. I decided to take the "back roads." I Got off on 52, just North of Hillsville and took that all the way to I-40.
Ran into blinding Fog coming down the mountain-it's no joke--fog + winding country roads = big crashes. My intuition (and Garmin) paid off big time! I'm glad I took the scenic route!
 Quoting: Reckless Driver 24817147

 Quoting: Seer777


makes you think
prompts me to think of moses going up the mountain to be "told" how to construct the container for the arc having removed the arc from it`s container within the great pyramid
thus the new container for the arc is an integral part of the new storyline inclusive of structures to "worship" within by the elite priesthood to be formed in full view of the people to be ruled by the new laws but at the same time hidden from view to keep secret the system being utilized
thus the structures and traditions created permitted the new storyline to function within a centralized society (nation)

this also tells us the egyptians at this time were living in the shadow of what was left of their golden age society because they could not replace the arc when it was taken out of the great pyramid
they were using stuff and placing their own stories over what they were using with no idea how to replicate it what caused it to function
 Quoting: aether


i also notice today our have easy access to our past
as in:
see it
say it
be it

remote senses are go ltana
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On another note...

I was wondering if anyone here has been experiencing an increase in the amount of 'reading' one does in the dream state.

Seems I spent last night reading. Which is not uncommon for myself, but I was wondering how many others read in their dreams. Not just words, but paragraphs.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


miss "busy" ltana
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Oh...GLP is once again a blocked site at work. What the hell.
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not meant as an attack... can't help myself; unless you are self-employed/or work for GLP?, shouldn't you be working at work? 1dunno1
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I am at work working.
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Good Morning everyone!

hf
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Thread: Question about the Big Pileup on Interstate 77 Sunday

I was on I-77 driving South on my way to Raleigh - about 15 miles from the accident when I heard a blurb about a pile up around Fancy Gap and they suggested avoiding the area, I heard nothing else about it from multiple stations because I wanted to get more info and find out it I should really avoid this. I decided to take the "back roads." I Got off on 52, just North of Hillsville and took that all the way to I-40.
Ran into blinding Fog coming down the mountain-it's no joke--fog + winding country roads = big crashes. My intuition (and Garmin) paid off big time! I'm glad I took the scenic route!
 Quoting: Reckless Driver 24817147

 Quoting: Seer777


makes you think
prompts me to think of moses going up the mountain to be "told" how to construct the container for the arc having removed the arc from it`s container within the great pyramid
thus the new container for the arc is an integral part of the new storyline inclusive of structures to "worship" within by the elite priesthood to be formed in full view of the people to be ruled by the new laws but at the same time hidden from view to keep secret the system being utilized
thus the structures and traditions created permitted the new storyline to function within a centralized society (nation)

this also tells us the egyptians at this time were living in the shadow of what was left of their golden age society because they could not replace the arc when it was taken out of the great pyramid
they were using stuff and placing their own stories over what they were using with no idea how to replicate it what caused it to function
 Quoting: aether


oh
that is why moses imposed the elite priesthood
it is the egyptian tradition
change label from priest to rabbi
place arc in different structure
tell new story
hey presto
egyptian tradition becomes hebrew tradition

not rocket science ltana
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Matter of fact,I do such good work I recently got a raise.

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