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Adam and Eve Mic


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it feels like it`s linking giants.as in:
how we once were morphing into what we are
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Yes.


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Adam and Eve Mic

hf
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Was she giving him head before they were interrupted? Is that what you are saying?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


With forearms like that She could crush and Insert however she wished. Sort of like myth and dominating cultures.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It looks rather homo-erotic... but then many works from that era look that way. Inavailability of female models or no direct knowledge? I have no clue, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


I have always been taken with the depiction of Eve's arms as they do not attribute femininity.

However, I believe the message here, is the "BEAST" type nature before coming into Mans current state of 'consciousness'.

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Adam and Eve Mic





it feels like it`s linking giants.as in:
how we once were morphing into what we are
 Quoting: aether


Yes.


Who's watching the Watchers?
 Quoting: Seer777


and that picture tells that in transmutation the women retains the wisdom of knowing that which transmutes, coiled around the tree of life, because they don`t lose touch with each other within the process, by design

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Was she giving him head before they were interrupted? Is that what you are saying?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


With forearms like that She could crush and Insert however she wished. Sort of like myth and dominating cultures.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It looks rather homo-erotic... but then many works from that era look that way. Inavailability of female models or no direct knowledge? I have no clue, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


I have always been taken with the depiction of Eve's arms as they do not attribute femininity.

However, I believe the message here, is the "BEAST" type nature before coming into Mans current state of 'consciousness'.

:kallisti:
 Quoting: Seer777


Thanks for giving me my apple back, lol. But I see something extremely different. I see the story behind the art of that era, the paradoxical nature of religion and man... and how even it's art obfuscates the feminine either by innocence or deliberation. I guess you could say I find no truth, no beauty, no golden apple with it. It feels unnatural and ugly.
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Adam and Eve Mic





it feels like it`s linking giants.as in:
how we once were morphing into what we are
 Quoting: aether


Yes.


Who's watching the Watchers?
 Quoting: Seer777


and that picture tells that in transmutation the women retains the wisdom of knowing that which transmutes, coiled around the tree of life, because they don`t lose touch with each other by design
 Quoting: aether


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Adam and Eve Mic





it feels like it`s linking giants.as in:
how we once were morphing into what we are
 Quoting: aether


Yes.


Who's watching the Watchers?
 Quoting: Seer777


and that picture tells that in transmutation the women retains the wisdom of knowing that which transmutes, coiled around the tree of life, because they don`t lose touch with each other within the process, by design
 Quoting: aether


and we know
if it coils it is electrical in nature
whole different meaning to the talking snake

i believe
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Thanks for giving me my apple back, lol. But I see something extremely different. I see the story behind the art of that era, the paradoxical nature of religion and man... and how even it's art obfuscates the feminine either by innocence or deliberation. I guess you could say I find no truth, no beauty, no golden apple with it. It feels unnatural and ugly.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Personally, I enjoy it purely for it's symbolism and its Master...

There is MUCH there.


hf
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and we know
if it coils it is electrical in nature
whole different meaning to the talking snake

i believe
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well i` don`t believe
i know it is tounge

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:Adam and Eve Mic:





it feels like it`s linking giants.as in:
how we once were morphing into what we are
 Quoting: aether


Yes.


Who's watching the Watchers?
 Quoting: Seer777


and that picture tells that in transmutation the women retains the wisdom of knowing that which transmutes, coiled around the tree of life, because they don`t lose touch with each other within the process, by design
 Quoting: aether


and we know
if it coils it is electrical in nature
whole different meaning to the talking snake

i believe
 Quoting: aether


The very meaning of the aware conciousness. All is Edenic before it is transposed upon an Ideal.

Ideals are meant to capture logic and toil within repetitive constraints. The dynamic made Static.

As uttered: Give up trying to be what you are not and you will be self over projected other. You will be complete rather than yearning.
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and we know
if it coils it is electrical in nature
whole different meaning to the talking snake

i believe
 Quoting: aether


Exactly.


Arc(h)

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Frequency...

Rainbowfrequency

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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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And too, we tend to give a dominant perception and bias to Judo-Christian events. Many cultures had their apples, it seems odd to me that we focus on the one who turned to the blame game and picked THAT one as a model for our ideal, lmao. Idun had no conflict with God for her stewardship, in fact the Aesir were lost without them... apparently they got a different message entirely. The Hesperides had no issue, either. Hippomenes would never got all up in Atalanta without one... and Paris and Helen would have never hooked up, either! The point I'm making... why do many, by default, go all Adam and Eve and the Serpent when the apple rears it's head. Blame, lack of personal responsibility. Yup, sounds like the one to go with to get the best control of the villagers, lmao.
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Thanks for giving me my apple back, lol. But I see something extremely different. I see the story behind the art of that era, the paradoxical nature of religion and man... and how even it's art obfuscates the feminine either by innocence or deliberation. I guess you could say I find no truth, no beauty, no golden apple with it. It feels unnatural and ugly.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Personally, I enjoy it purely for it's symbolism and its Master...

There is MUCH there.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


While that's true for you, it's not for me :) I'm glad you enjoy it, but I do not. I'm not a fan of contrived art, I prefer it more natural and flowing with the rhythms of life, spontaneous and not politically influenced as a control mechanism.
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and we know
if it coils it is electrical in nature
whole different meaning to the talking snake

i believe
 Quoting: aether


well i` don`t believe
i know it is tounge
 Quoting: aether


:) Awesome, that's all it takes, a shift in perception. Belief is for intangible, unmeasurable things :)
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And too, we tend to give a dominant perception and bias to Judo-Christian events. Many cultures had their apples, it seems odd to me that we focus on the one who turned to the blame game and picked THAT one as a model for our ideal, lmao. Idun had no conflict with God for her stewardship, in fact the Aesir were lost without them... apparently they got a different message entirely. The Hesperides had no issue, either. Hippomenes would never got all up in Atalanta without one... and Paris and Helen would have never hooked up, either! The point I'm making... why do many, by default, go all Adam and Eve and the Serpent when the apple rears it's head. Blame, lack of personal responsibility. Yup, sounds like the one to go with to get the best control of the villagers, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Those Christian Judoka's ruin everything don't they. Always wanting to flip people to their way of seeing things. I say flip them somethin'. ;)
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Arc(h)

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Frequency...

Rainbowfrequency

Serpentine
 Quoting: Seer777


that is 5 minutes walk from where i live and i walk around it often

Serpentine (lake)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the entire park it is constructed within is scaled to tell the story via symbol and sign and i recently discovered that my favorite park bench overlooking the serpentine and it`s ley line design was the favorite same spot rudolf steiner chose as his favorite bench when it acquired a brass plaque a while ago

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And too, we tend to give a dominant perception and bias to Judo-Christian events. Many cultures had their apples, it seems odd to me that we focus on the one who turned to the blame game and picked THAT one as a model for our ideal, lmao. Idun had no conflict with God for her stewardship, in fact the Aesir were lost without them... apparently they got a different message entirely. The Hesperides had no issue, either. Hippomenes would never got all up in Atalanta without one... and Paris and Helen would have never hooked up, either! The point I'm making... why do many, by default, go all Adam and Eve and the Serpent when the apple rears it's head. Blame, lack of personal responsibility. Yup, sounds like the one to go with to get the best control of the villagers, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Those Christian Judoka's ruin everything don't they. Always wanting to flip people to their way of seeing things. I say flip them somethin'. ;)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


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Do you think yourself damned, Seer? Why would post that emoticon behind such a lovely piece of art. They seem conflicting messages. Babel?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


As I have mentioned in the past when I post this smilie ---> damned it is indicating either deep revelation or particularly blinding synchronicity.


Think of it more as a daaayyyuuummmm.
tounge


Using my definition of the term that is.

hf
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Yes. It is incongruent in language. With emoticons also being language. I hold there is nothing damning about chronicity. Synchronicity. Yes. Can be viewed eerily when projected through the lens of occultism.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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and a weird story about that spot with the bench
i chose the spot because it was the most comfortable sensation location and before the plaque i had sat their innumerable times over the years, always alone
one day i sat their alone as usual and experienced a particular memorable eureka moment of that time as all came together in my thoughts of the events i was experiencing in my expression of life up to that time, a rolling experience

as i stood to leave feeling particularly good i saw on the left hand arm of the bench a triangle engrained into the wood
i was shocked because my arm had been resting on it and i had never noticed it there before
it`s appearance was stained onto or drawn onto the wood and it was very distinct as in:
you could not miss it
i looked at the bench and considered the bench had been changed, which it may or someone within the past days, since my last visit had drawn it, which they may
so i left laughing about the appearance to me of the triangle at that moment
the next day i walked again looking forward to sitting on the bench with the triangle
there was no triangle the next day, nor have i seen one on the bench again

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banana


Adam and Eve Mic

hf
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Was she giving him head before they were interrupted? Is that what you are saying?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


With forearms like that She could crush and Insert however she wished. Sort of like myth and dominating cultures.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It looks rather homo-erotic... but then many works from that era look that way. Inavailability of female models or no direct knowledge? I have no clue, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


It always reminds me of this:

BODY inert, eyes summing, fingertip almost brushing the out stretched hand of hope. If of course there be the timelessness of a pose at all beyond the Sistine Chapel. With just one maybe and but one maybe not, only the Divine is in the running. In a world of Platonic, judicious, vying vision, overtly coveting the potency of Heaven and eternally begrudging that damned Woman and Child clutched beneath the shadow of his arm.
 Quoting: DEBAUCHING ADAM


Which is the preface to this:

4 She evoked the memory of forgotten smell, the apocryphal victory of rotting leaves, bitter and sweet, but forever to be trodden by the souls of man.
5 As she tasted of taste, eternally reminiscing the taste, the smell, the smell, the taste, of one more morsel, and then.
 Quoting: DEBAUCHING ADAM: 4-5

The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Do you think yourself damned, Seer? Why would post that emoticon behind such a lovely piece of art. They seem conflicting messages. Babel?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


As I have mentioned in the past when I post this smilie ---> damned it is indicating either deep revelation or particularly blinding synchronicity.


Think of it more as a daaayyyuuummmm.
tounge


Using my definition of the term that is.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes. It is incongruent in language. With emoticons also being language. I hold there is nothing damning about chronicity. Synchronicity. Yes.

Can be viewed eerily when projected through the lens of occultism.
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


Synchronicity is a language in and of itSelf.

A 'Lens' does not belong, which is why much of what I notice is it occurs with numbers, symbols, music, and images.


To wrench itself loose of spoken/written language and its often perception based labels.


Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance, yet are experienced as occurring together in a meaningful manner. The concept of synchronicity was first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s

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Do you think yourself damned, Seer? Why would post that emoticon behind such a lovely piece of art. They seem conflicting messages. Babel?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


As I have mentioned in the past when I post this smilie ---> damned it is indicating either deep revelation or particularly blinding synchronicity.


Think of it more as a daaayyyuuummmm.
tounge


Using my definition of the term that is.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes. It is incongruent in language. With emoticons also being language. I hold there is nothing damning about chronicity. Synchronicity. Yes.

Can be viewed eerily when projected through the lens of occultism.
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


Synchronicity is a language in and of itSelf.

A 'Lens' does not belong, which is why much of what I notice is it occurs with numbers, symbols, music, and images.


To wrench itself loose of spoken/written language and its often perception based labels.


Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance, yet are experienced as occurring together in a meaningful manner. The concept of synchronicity was first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yes lovely. I am aware Jung worked with both his lover and a friend studying in quantum mechanics when he came up with his theory.

......What is so surprising about synchronicity once one assumes that soma is subsumed by psyche? There is no need to work out a factor called synchronicity - only, we might suggest, the basic factor of "chronicity", which is the time of the soul itself. Instead of saying, spookily, that some events are "synchronistic", we should see all events as "chronic".
It is, after all, only with Cartesian dualism that one needs a concept of synchronicity - if body is taken as fantasy, it too is soul and a dualism is uncalled for. There is nothing to be "joined".
 Quoting: Chronicity/Snychronicity Archetypes

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Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance, yet are experienced as occurring together in a meaningful manner...
 Quoting: observation


that reminds me of this:

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation

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i never noticed before
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Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events that are apparently causally unrelated or unlikely to occur together by chance, yet are experienced as occurring together in a meaningful manner...
 Quoting: observation


that reminds me of this:

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

i never noticed before
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feels like added "body" to synchronicity
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it feels a natural processes of design
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Was she giving him head before they were interrupted? Is that what you are saying?
 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


With forearms like that She could crush and Insert however she wished. Sort of like myth and dominating cultures.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


It looks rather homo-erotic... but then many works from that era look that way. Inavailability of female models or no direct knowledge? I have no clue, lmao.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


It always reminds me of this:

BODY inert, eyes summing, fingertip almost brushing the out stretched hand of hope. If of course there be the timelessness of a pose at all beyond the Sistine Chapel. With just one maybe and but one maybe not, only the Divine is in the running. In a world of Platonic, judicious, vying vision, overtly coveting the potency of Heaven and eternally begrudging that damned Woman and Child clutched beneath the shadow of his arm.
 Quoting: DEBAUCHING ADAM


Which is the preface to this:

4 She evoked the memory of forgotten smell, the apocryphal victory of rotting leaves, bitter and sweet, but forever to be trodden by the souls of man.
5 As she tasted of taste, eternally reminiscing the taste, the smell, the smell, the taste, of one more morsel, and then.
 Quoting: DEBAUCHING ADAM: 4-5

 Quoting: Mnemosyne/Zeus


Do you understand what came behind Cartesian dualism as projected in that image?

Cooptation of synchronicity. The difference between creativity and manipulation as I denoted earlier in the day.

Which makes ‘hold the ambivalence’ an actual variable, i.e. Saturn.
 Quoting: Difference Between Creativity and Manipulation


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The concept of synchronicity was first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s
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it makes me wonder

what could possible have been in a single persons mind before 1920 if synchronicity arrived then ?
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 Quoting: ~Angels~

The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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The concept of synchronicity was first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s
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it makes me wonder

what could possible have been in a single persons mind before 1920 if synchronicity arrived then ?
 Quoting: aether


Maybe pre-Jung they just called it coincidence, lmao?
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The concept of synchronicity was first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s
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it makes me wonder

what could possible have been in a single persons mind before 1920 if synchronicity arrived then ?
 Quoting: aether


i knew it

Aristotle!!!!!

Western philosophy
Aristotle


Aristotle distinguished between four causes, or four explanations, that each answer the question "why?" in different ways. These various means of explanation can be divided into four general types as follows:

The material cause is the physical matter, the mass of "raw material" of which something is "made" (of which it consists).
The formal cause tells us what, by analogy to the plans of an artisan, a thing is intended and planned to be.
The efficient cause is that external entity from which the change or the ending of the change first starts.
The final cause is that for the sake of which a thing exists, or is done - including both purposeful and instrumental actions. The final cause, or telos, is the purpose, or end, that something is supposed to serve.
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 Quoting: observation

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Synchronicity

The concept does not question, or compete with, the notion of causality.
 Quoting: observation


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The concept of synchronicity was first described in this terminology by Carl Gustav Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s
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it makes me wonder

what could possible have been in a single persons mind before 1920 if synchronicity arrived then ?
 Quoting: aether


I can tell you what was on my mind ;)
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