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Origins and Meanings of the Eight-Point Star


The roots of the eight-point star symbol are in early astronomy. The eight lines are symbolic of the four corners of space (north, south, east, and west) and time (two solstices and two equinoxes).

The Sumerians used an arrangement of lines as a symbol for both star and God. The linear eight-point star represented the goddess Inanna, Sumerian queen of the heavens and Ishtar (Astarte), the Babylonian goddess known as “The Lightbringer.” An eight-point star enclosed within a circle was the symbol for the sun god. The “Babylonian star-cult is the core and the archetype of subsequent astrology.”

For centuries, the Greeks believed that the morning and evening star we different entities. The Greeks recognized Venus as the morning and evening star is 400 BC, 1,500 years after Sumerians


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Symbol of Chaos

The Symbol of Chaos originates from Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion stories. In them, the Symbol of Chaos comprises eight arrows in a radial pattern. In contrast, the symbol of Law is a single upright arrow. It is also called the Arms of Chaos, the Arrows of Chaos, the Chaos Star, the Chaos Cross, or the Symbol of Eight.

There are a number of traditional symbols that have the same geometrical pattern as Moorcock's symbol of Chaos, such as any of various eight-pointed stars (like this one from a Greek vase from the fifth century BCE), the star of Ishtar/Venus, the Eastern Dharmacakra and the Wheel of the Year, but none of these were symbols of chaos and their limbs are not arrows.

Furthermore, the '8' of Wands in Aleister Crowley's Thoth Tarot deck features prominently an eight-pointed star with arrows at the ends.

Crowley described the card as representing "energy" scattering at "high velocity" that had managed to create the depicted eight-pointed figure...

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I bet he did not have an easy time in school with that last name.

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I am speaking more along the lines of the ET visitations, not the other experiences.

And yes, I am a sucker for these strange experiences. If I don't have any for a couple of weeks, I get all antsy.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Good. I feel that way to. Sometimes, I just want to remember is all.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Have you come up with the cause for the antsy yet? Do you place a higher value on an experience you have with a being in a physical body that is different than your own ie an ET? Ever wonder why?

hmm
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


As far as the antsy, I just always assumed the experiences have become something like an addiction.

No, there is no higher value on either. But, I don't remember ever meeting a human looking ET before. So, I cannot properly answer your question.

Also, when visitations occur, there is no 'talking' that goes on, as far as what is in my memory. I am thinking that it may be much different then you imagine it to be. It is far, far different than human to human interaction.
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oh
sorry luna i missed that
last night before i slept i was within our non material dimension(s) interacting with some new to me things to interact with and when i opened the pic of the day it`s topic location pinged connected to my experience
 Quoting: aether


did you notice who or what the other 2 whom i was with were like
if you don`t mind telling
 Quoting: aether


No idea who they didn't seem familiar at all and I didn't really see them just got impressions...the one to the front furthest on my right was a shorter packistani? who smoked heavy and wore glasses and the other was male on the right but only picked up taller than me and the head was shaped weird almost like he had on a scottish touring cap...or was a ninja turtle lol flatter head...
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oh
sorry luna i missed that
last night before i slept i was within our non material dimension(s) interacting with some new to me things to interact with and when i opened the pic of the day it`s topic location pinged connected to my experience
 Quoting: aether


did you notice who or what the other 2 whom i was with were like
if you don`t mind telling
 Quoting: aether


No idea who they didn't seem familiar at all and I didn't really see them just got impressions...the one to the front furthest on my right was a shorter packistani? who smoked heavy and wore glasses and the other was male on the right but only picked up taller than me and the head was shaped weird almost like he had on a scottish touring cap...or was a ninja turtle lol flatter head...
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i was in toon town 1rof1

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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
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As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
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Origins and Meanings of the Eight-Point Star


The roots of the eight-point star symbol are in early astronomy. The eight lines are symbolic of the four corners of space (north, south, east, and west) and time (two solstices and two equinoxes).

The Sumerians used an arrangement of lines as a symbol for both star and God. The linear eight-point star represented the goddess Inanna, Sumerian queen of the heavens and Ishtar (Astarte), the Babylonian goddess known as “The Lightbringer.” An eight-point star enclosed within a circle was the symbol for the sun god. The “Babylonian star-cult is the core and the archetype of subsequent astrology.”

For centuries, the Greeks believed that the morning and evening star we different entities. The Greeks recognized Venus as the morning and evening star is 400 BC, 1,500 years after Sumerians


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Symbol of Chaos

The Symbol of Chaos originates from Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion stories. In them, the Symbol of Chaos comprises eight arrows in a radial pattern. In contrast, the symbol of Law is a single upright arrow. It is also called the Arms of Chaos, the Arrows of Chaos, the Chaos Star, the Chaos Cross, or the Symbol of Eight.

There are a number of traditional symbols that have the same geometrical pattern as Moorcock's symbol of Chaos, such as any of various eight-pointed stars (like this one from a Greek vase from the fifth century BCE), the star of Ishtar/Venus, the Eastern Dharmacakra and the Wheel of the Year, but none of these were symbols of chaos and their limbs are not arrows.

Furthermore, the '8' of Wands in Aleister Crowley's Thoth Tarot deck features prominently an eight-pointed star with arrows at the ends.


Crowley described the card as representing "energy" scattering at "high velocity" that had managed to create the depicted eight-pointed figure...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


I bet he did not have an easy time in school with that last name.

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'8' of Wands in Aleister Crowley's Thoth Tarot
[link to www.corax.com] <---Image

It a octahedron. A rainbow and the 'asterisk'.

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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
 Quoting: Seer777


As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

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It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
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As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I agree
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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
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As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I agree
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I'm not a former soldier, but I don't like viewing it either. I skip right past it and avoid it.
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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
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As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

.


It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
 Quoting: Seer777


you didnt have any relatives in the military did you cause if you did you would have respect. posting images like says you have no respect what so ever. how about we get some old family photos of you past loved ones and post them up see how you like those apples.
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As far as the antsy, I just always assumed the experiences have become something like an addiction.

No, there is no higher value on either. But, I don't remember ever meeting a human looking ET before. So, I cannot properly answer your question.

Also, when visitations occur, there is no 'talking' that goes on, as far as what is in my memory. I am thinking that it may be much different then you imagine it to be. It is far, far different than human to human interaction.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It'd be interesting to see why it has that effect on you then, the addictive effects. There's rarely actual voice talking in a lot of experiences most people talk about but how we piece together the information is up to us, maybe this is where your invent a new lingo comes in, not just symbols etc...you seem to be on that threshhold of favoring non material communication as opposed to material and the lack of communicators "in practice" coherently probably pisses you the fuck off...

Probably same as it does most people who are chasing that same "buzz"...

*looks around innocently*
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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
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As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I agree
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I'm not a former soldier, but I don't like viewing it either. I skip right past it and avoid it.
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You know what makes me uncomfortable?


Threads with the word WAR in it, since 4/1...

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But point taken.

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All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

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It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
 Quoting: Seer777


Why do you want people to be uncomfortable?
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All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

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It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
 Quoting: Seer777


you didnt have any relatives in the military did you cause if you did you would have respect. posting images like says you have no respect what so ever. how about we get some old family photos of you past loved ones and post them up see how you like those apples.
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My best friend did 3 tours...

He came back emotionally scarred to the point I no longer knew him at all.

Nearly delusional..when he called several times after, speaking of secret missions and how I was the one person he could call and if he 'disappeared' to contact his mother.

My mothers uncle died in Vietnam. My grandmother's father fought in one on the World Wars.

Please don't place assumptions on me.
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:WarISHELL
THIS. IS INSANITY. TO ME.
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As a former soldier I don't particularly like seeing pictures of dead soldiers. What is it in you that compels you to use that?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I agree
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I'm not a former soldier, but I don't like viewing it either. I skip right past it and avoid it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


You can still play both on here.

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All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

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It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
 Quoting: Seer777


Why do you want people to be uncomfortable?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


See above.

Like I said, point taken. I will refrain from utilizing the image in this thread in the future.
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All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

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It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
 Quoting: Seer777


you didnt have any relatives in the military did you cause if you did you would have respect. posting images like says you have no respect what so ever. how about we get some old family photos of you past loved ones and post them up see how you like those apples.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37421572


My best friend did 3 tours...

He came back emotionally scarred to the point I no longer knew him at all.

Nearly delusional..when he called several times after, speaking of secret missions and how I was the one person he could call and if he 'disappeared' to contact his mother.

My mothers uncle died in Vietnam. My grandmother's father fought in one on the World Wars.

Please don't place assumptions on me.
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'Nearly delusional' runs in the family then?
I'd say, 'Firmly delusional' is the better fit.
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My best friend did 3 tours...

He came back emotionally scarred to the point I no longer knew him at all.

Nearly delusional..when he called several times after, speaking of secret missions and how I was the one person he could call and if he 'disappeared' to contact his mother.

My mothers uncle died in Vietnam. My grandmother's father fought in one on the World Wars.

Please don't place assumptions on me.
 Quoting: Seer777


'Nearly delusional' runs in the family then?
I'd say, 'Firmly delusional' is the better fit.
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As far as the antsy, I just always assumed the experiences have become something like an addiction.

No, there is no higher value on either. But, I don't remember ever meeting a human looking ET before. So, I cannot properly answer your question.

Also, when visitations occur, there is no 'talking' that goes on, as far as what is in my memory. I am thinking that it may be much different then you imagine it to be. It is far, far different than human to human interaction.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It'd be interesting to see why it has that effect on you then, the addictive effects. There's rarely actual voice talking in a lot of experiences most people talk about but how we piece together the information is up to us, maybe this is where your invent a new lingo comes in, not just symbols etc...you seem to be on that threshhold of favoring non material communication as opposed to material and the lack of communicators "in practice" coherently probably pisses you the fuck off...

Probably same as it does most people who are chasing that same "buzz"...

*looks around innocently*
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


There is depth missing in normal communication. It is like it is lacking in dimensionality.

I would say that is accurate, what you said in bold. Except, it doesn't piss me off. Just makes me not want to talk a lot. Though, I say that, and I had a work X-Mas party that I got pretty 'upset' over. I think I may have said a total of 20 words in about 2 hours.

But, mostly it just makes me not want to talk much.

The addictive effects, I believe comes from my 'adrenaline' rushes that I love. Once I was able to control my fear during experiences, it became...magical. I don't know how to describe it, lol. It is still scary as fuck, scarier than anything I have ever done. Nothing comes close to the fear that manifests. Being able to control it, and ride it, and make it through the experiences is a feeling of accomplishment, a feeling of bettering myself, making myself stronger than the emotions that want to control.

Liberating is the word.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

I found that image btw, in a list of images which purportedly, 'Changed the World'...
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My best friend did 3 tours...

He came back emotionally scarred to the point I no longer knew him at all.

Nearly delusional..when he called several times after, speaking of secret missions and how I was the one person he could call and if he 'disappeared' to contact his mother.

My mothers uncle died in Vietnam. My grandmother's father fought in one on the World Wars.

Please don't place assumptions on me.
 Quoting: Seer777


'Nearly delusional' runs in the family then?
I'd say, 'Firmly delusional' is the better fit.
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You are allowed to believe whatever you choose...Russia.
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Very neutral for you.
Fair enough.

Btw.
Thanks for letting me vote again Bryan.
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All the talk of War.

Have you missed it?

War=Death.

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It is intended to make people uncomfortable. Maybe then Man will think twice about calling for War.

One can hope.
 Quoting: Seer777


Why do you want people to be uncomfortable?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


See above.

Like I said, point taken. I will refrain from utilizing the image in this thread in the future.
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You do good with the pics most of the time...then there are those ones that you post that are horrible to view...like that war one...like the child one holding her ears...

Or you post pics like the volume knob...knowing full well some may not want to view that either...as they are sensitive to such things...

So you got a track record for making at least me uncomfortable with some of your pics...but you don't seem to care...la la la on your way you go...I don't even know why I take the time to type this to you as your track record for ignoring people is up there too...
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You are allowed to believe whatever you choose...Russia.
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Very neutral for you.
Fair enough.


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Not really.

I say that all the time.

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See above.

Like I said, point taken. I will refrain from utilizing the image in this thread in the future.
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Thanks, I think in war talk threads it's a little more expected, but I don't think there's many who participate in this one who need to be made uncomfortable to understand war=death.

I'll admit I'm sensitive to stuff like that more than I'd like. And most days I just ignore that stuff...
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My best friend did 3 tours...

He came back emotionally scarred to the point I no longer knew him at all.

Nearly delusional..when he called several times after, speaking of secret missions and how I was the one person he could call and if he 'disappeared' to contact his mother.

My mothers uncle died in Vietnam. My grandmother's father fought in one on the World Wars.

Please don't place assumptions on me.
 Quoting: Seer777


'Nearly delusional' runs in the family then?
I'd say, 'Firmly delusional' is the better fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37324931


You are allowed to believe whatever you choose...Russia.
 Quoting: Seer777


Very neutral for you.
Fair enough.

Btw.
Thanks for letting me vote again Bryan.
Got a new voting IP.
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Like I said, point taken. I will refrain from utilizing the image in this thread in the future.
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You do good with the pics most of the time...then there are those ones that you post that are horrible to view...like that war one...like the child one holding her ears...

Or you post pics like the volume knob...knowing full well some may not want to view that either...as they are sensitive to such things...

So you got a track record for making at least me uncomfortable with some of your pics...but you don't seem to care...la la la on your way you go...I don't even know why I take the time to type this to you as your track record for ignoring people is up there too...
 Quoting: Spirit666


Ugh.

Do I use the volume knob any more Spirit? What did I say to you directly concerning such?

Have you seen the 'noise' image since either?

How would you deem your 'track record'?

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As far as the antsy, I just always assumed the experiences have become something like an addiction.

No, there is no higher value on either. But, I don't remember ever meeting a human looking ET before. So, I cannot properly answer your question.

Also, when visitations occur, there is no 'talking' that goes on, as far as what is in my memory. I am thinking that it may be much different then you imagine it to be. It is far, far different than human to human interaction.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It'd be interesting to see why it has that effect on you then, the addictive effects. There's rarely actual voice talking in a lot of experiences most people talk about but how we piece together the information is up to us, maybe this is where your invent a new lingo comes in, not just symbols etc...you seem to be on that threshhold of favoring non material communication as opposed to material and the lack of communicators "in practice" coherently probably pisses you the fuck off...

Probably same as it does most people who are chasing that same "buzz"...

*looks around innocently*
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


There is depth missing in normal communication. It is like it is lacking in dimensionality.

I would say that is accurate, what you said in bold. Except, it doesn't piss me off. Just makes me not want to talk a lot. Though, I say that, and I had a work X-Mas party that I got pretty 'upset' over. I think I may have said a total of 20 words in about 2 hours.

But, mostly it just makes me not want to talk much.

The addictive effects, I believe comes from my 'adrenaline' rushes that I love. Once I was able to control my fear during experiences, it became...magical. I don't know how to describe it, lol. It is still scary as fuck, scarier than anything I have ever done. Nothing comes close to the fear that manifests. Being able to control it, and ride it, and make it through the experiences is a feeling of accomplishment, a feeling of bettering myself, making myself stronger than the emotions that want to control.

Liberating is the word.
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Yeah, I didn't mean like it makes you rage out...but I really do understand not wanting then to communicate with anyone because by the time it takes you to fully explain what you process in the span of 10 seconds would take forever with our current means of communication and it gets to a point where ya ask "is it worth it" like you did at the party and usually it's a big "fuck that" lol
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As far as the antsy, I just always assumed the experiences have become something like an addiction.

No, there is no higher value on either. But, I don't remember ever meeting a human looking ET before. So, I cannot properly answer your question.

Also, when visitations occur, there is no 'talking' that goes on, as far as what is in my memory. I am thinking that it may be much different then you imagine it to be. It is far, far different than human to human interaction.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It'd be interesting to see why it has that effect on you then, the addictive effects. There's rarely actual voice talking in a lot of experiences most people talk about but how we piece together the information is up to us, maybe this is where your invent a new lingo comes in, not just symbols etc...you seem to be on that threshhold of favoring non material communication as opposed to material and the lack of communicators "in practice" coherently probably pisses you the fuck off...

Probably same as it does most people who are chasing that same "buzz"...

*looks around innocently*
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


OH! I just understood what you meant in the bold part! lol, it doesn't piss me off, but yeah, lack of that kind of communication is frustrating. There is so much misinterpretation in 'normal' communication. The other communication cuts massively down on misinterpretation...I imagine.
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See above.

Like I said, point taken. I will refrain from utilizing the image in this thread in the future.
 Quoting: Seer777


Thanks, I think in war talk threads it's a little more expected, but I don't think there's many who participate in this one who need to be made uncomfortable to understand war=death.

I'll admit I'm sensitive to stuff like that more than I'd like. And most days I just ignore that stuff...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I understand.

The volume as it were, seems TURNED UP on the War topic of late and that is how I deal with it personally.

By showing exactly what War leads to.

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Last Edited by Seer777 on 04/04/2013 11:48 AM
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