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interesting topic which appeared to possess no focus of practical reality before feb 2007

now it is forming into shape that forms practical sense
remembering

et visits were impossible within the structure and function in our old universe , the distances involved were to great to bridge with our old universes universal laws

our new universe does not possess that /z\ difficulty
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Law is a matter of expediency as it is bent to Will.
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good morning
i agree
humanities desire for constants
has constantly prompted disputes
nothing more
thus far
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Constants, like control, require artificial substructures to channel will into an ocean of eventual frustration.

No dam will hold it.
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Castles made of sand:

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So, what happens may 7th?
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So, what happens may 7th?
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i don`t know
but i do know on this day 5th may
i am recognizing a very pleasant occurrence within ourselves (people) of material reality that is shockingly attractive to our senses
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interesting topic which appeared to possess no focus of practical reality before feb 2007

now it is forming into shape that forms practical sense
remembering

et visits were impossible within the structure and function in our old universe , the distances involved were to great to bridge with our old universes universal laws

our new universe does not possess that /z\ difficulty
 Quoting: aether


Law is a matter of expediency as it is bent to Will.
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good morning
i agree
humanities desire for constants
has constantly prompted disputes
nothing more
thus far
 Quoting: aether


Constants, like control, require artificial substructures to channel will into an ocean of eventual frustration.

No dam will hold it.
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there are constants
you just described one
not noticing a constant
will constantly become noticeable tounge
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


that was law /z\ in our old universe
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
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Do you remember once awakening and staring at the box. Looking inside you wondered how it would feel to confine yourself, to define yourself.

Upon entering you noticed the door and pulled it on hinge towards yourself. Seeing the flip lock inside, you flipped it shut.

Comfortable in the knowledge you could release yourself from it's cramped feeling of permanence. You radiated in its dense darkness. The visions in your mind the only light.

Slowly you allowed your minds eye to view the box from without. You realized you had become separate. You were without the ability to slip the clasp. As you were outside the box.

What was within it had become foreign. Round and round you spun. An infinity of Schroediger's cats mewled. You had forgotten the look of that within. In it's place was fear and anxiety.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


A bump.
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Bodhi in Buddhism is the understanding possessed by a Buddha regarding the nature of things. It is traditionally translated into English with the word enlightenment and literally means awakened. Bodhi is knowledge of the causal mechanism by which beings incarnate into material form and experience suffering.
 Quoting: Buddha


Fourteen unanswerable questions

The Buddha remained silent when asked these fourteen questions. He described them as a net and refused to be drawn into such a net of theories, speculations, and dogmas. He said that it was because he was free of bondage to all theories and dogmas that he had attained liberation. Such speculations, he said, are attended by fever, unease, bewilderment, and suffering, and it is by freeing oneself of them that one achieves liberation.

When the Buddha refuses to be drawn into the net of these dogmatic views of existence and nonexistence, he has two things in mind: the ethical consequences of these two views, and the fact that the views of absolute existence and nonexistence do not correspond to the way things really are. The eternalists view this self as permanent and unchanging. When the body dies, this self will not die because the self is by nature unchanging. If that is the case, it does not matter what this body does: actions of the body will not affect the destiny of the self. This view is incompatible with moral responsibility because if the self is eternal and unchanging, it will not be affected by wholesome and unwholesome actions. Similarly, if the self were identical with the body and the self dies along with the body, then it does not matter what the body does. If you believe that existence ends at death, there will be no necessary constraint upon action. But in a situation where things exist through interdependent origination, absolute existence and nonexistence are impossible.

Another example drawn from the fourteen unanswerable questions also shows that the propositions do not correspond to the way things really are. Take the example of the world. According to Buddhist teaching, the world does not exist absolutely or does not exist absolutely in time. The world exists dependent on causes and conditions—ignorance, craving, and clinging. When ignorance, craving, and clinging are present, the world exists; when they are not present, the world ceases to exist. Hence the question of the absolute existence or nonexistence of the world is unanswerable. Existence and nonexistence, taken as absolute ideas, do not apply to things as they really are. This is why the Buddha refuses to agree to absolute statements about the nature of things. He believed that the absolute categories of metaphysics do not apply to things as they really are
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the Buddhas view of our universe is each life forming planet is somehow first formed by ignorance, craving, and clinging
then ignorant, craving and clinging live on it to express ignorant craving and clingy

question

where were ignorant, craving and clinging located before they magicked up a planet to perform on
this prompts a very yuck view of our non material dimensions cos it suggests that everything nasty comes from the non material dimensions
if that is true
where does Buddha go
material is out
non material is out
both ignorant, craving and clingy

is the unknowable singularity location /z\ responsible for everything but unattached to everything

a buddhist may tell us because this is a current popular belief

i think
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
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i think we are getting to it /z\ is buddhas unanswered question
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Do you remember once awakening and staring at the box. Looking inside you wondered how it would feel to confine yourself, to define yourself.

Upon entering you noticed the door and pulled it on hinge towards yourself. Seeing the flip lock inside, you flipped it shut.

Comfortable in the knowledge you could release yourself from it's cramped feeling of permanence. You radiated in its dense darkness. The visions in your mind the only light.

Slowly you allowed your minds eye to view the box from without. You realized you had become separate. You were without the ability to slip the clasp. As you were outside the box.

What was within it had become foreign. Round and round you spun. An infinity of Schroediger's cats mewled. You had forgotten the look of that within. In it's place was fear and anxiety.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


A bump.
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prompted to think about it
constants and boxes go hand in hand within current belief

the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally

that /z\ sequence of words is less than 4 years known and describes a constant
but
the singular cause of all things belief being a universal base line (beginning) of all things believed in this locality
has an interesting affect

nothing that recognizes (believes) this singular cause can consciously be this singular cause whilst being that which recognizes this singular cause
thus
everything that believes is forced to accept it is something it can never know
and
is forced to believe it is never what it is when it forms this discovery

thus it`self can never become known to it`self
and
nothing outside of it`s`self can ever become known to it`self

the singular cause box

the box tounge
 Quoting: aether


it seems simple
the singularity cause that arose at the beginning of our golden age departing and the mind games it has caused ever since
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


i think we are getting to it /z\ is buddhas unanswered question
 Quoting: aether


Fixation begets all problems. As without acceptance of transition; You will likely presuppose all answers based on said position of fixation.

Addiction begets cyclicality.

Eventually you lose the true basis of being ; that standing as right action over that pointedly fixated.

In essence that which overly organically fits the flow over that which is reflected from a self serving and quite redundant point.
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seem to be buddha was
do not do as i do
do as i tell you
cos for him
ignorance is bliss
but
to all others
ignorance is shameful

but
i am not a buddhist tounge
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thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
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remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


i think we are getting to it /z\ is buddhas unanswered question
 Quoting: aether


Fixation begets all problems. As without acceptance of transition; You will likely presuppose all answers based on said position of fixation.

Addiction begets cyclicality.

Eventually you lose the true basis of being ; that standing as right action over that pointedly fixated.

In essence that which overly organically fits the flow over that which is reflected from a self serving and quite redundant point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


is to notice
a fixation
is to know what you notice
becoming fixated on what you know

i don`t get it

is breathing fixation

is being fixation

nothing = fixation
cos
fixation = everything

where did buddah go to escape that
cos our non material dimensions will never support his imagination outside of this locations domain
he will reincarnate when this location commences reincarnation
that is for certain

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 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


clappaclappaclappa



hiding
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Oh yes, good morning.
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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remembering golden age state is a state of knowing
it prompts processes that buddha tried to make sense of
it is not a fixation
it is a natural process that is irresistible as all natural process are because we ourselves are part of the natural process
and
we have entered the location (time) where the natural process is visible to our senses and becoming more so
this is as much prompted by our environment as it is ourselves
thus
it is unlike our past
because in our recorded and becoming understood past
environmental alteration is present when we alter
in buddha era
there was no accompanying environment alteration in process thus it never crossed his mind to link the 2 in a practical fashion
like he never noticed the link to lead either
and a million other things he could have noticed
but did not
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Oh yes, good morning.
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good morning

arm wound fine

i imagine
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Oh yes, good morning.
 Quoting: 1908247


good morning

arm wound fine

i imagine
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yes yes yes

I opened it up last night to find the healing process was going on faster than I would have imagined (:

give me 6 more days and I probably won't even remember this happened

Its Eastern Easter today!

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- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Oh yes, good morning.
 Quoting: 1908247


good morning

arm wound fine

i imagine
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yes yes yes

I opened it up last night to find the healing process was going on faster than I would have imagined (:

give me 6 more days and I probably won't even remember this happened

Its Eastern Easter today!
 Quoting: 1908247


oh
you are right

Easter is the fundamental and most important festival of the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches:

This is the Expected and Holy Day,
the One among the Sabbaths,
the Sovereign and Lady of days,
Feast of feasts, Celebration of celebrations,
on which we praise Christ for all eternity!

Every other religious festival in their calendar, including Christmas, is secondary in importance to the celebration of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is reflected in rich Paschal customs in the cultures of countries that have traditionally had an Orthodox Christian majority. Eastern Catholics have similar emphasis in their calendars, and many of their liturgical customs are very similar.
 Quoting: observation


julian calendar

Sunday, May 5
Orthodox Easter 2013
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Orthodox Christians hold that man was originally created in communion with God, but through acting in a manner contrary to his own nature (which is intrinsically ordered to communion with God), he disrupted that communion. Because of man's refusal to fulfill the "image and likeness of God" within him, corruption and the sickness of sin whose consequence is death entered man's mode of existence. But when Jesus came into the world He Himself was Perfect Man and Perfect God united in the divine Hypostasis of the Logos, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. Through his assumption of human nature, human existence was restored, enabling human beings, the fulfilment of creation, through participation in divinity by incorporation into Jesus Christ.

"The Word of God came in His own Person, because it was He alone, the Image of the Father, Who could recreate man made after the Image. In order to effect this re-creation, however, He had first to do away with death and corruption. Therefore He assumed a human body, in order that in it death might once and for all be destroyed, and that men might be renewed according to the Image [of God]." St. Athanasius, On the Incarnation [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: observation


i wonder what happens next /z\

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this in it`s own likeness has arisen before

now the interesting part is this
we discovered our greeks believed earth was the center of everything thus they believed everything in the universe came (born) from earth (gaia)
but
someone knew the truth
all things form from aether (sequence)
or all things form from aether and that which is formed it`self then possess the capacity to form in it`s own likeness
thus planets form from brown dwarfs etc
galaxies form from other galaxies
thus we always have two visible process processing within our material dimension
the something from nothing z pinch formation
and
that which is formed from nothing it`self forming in it`s own likeness
which to the unknowing is the visible sign of something from nothing (invisible)
aether is invisible (non material structure of space and all that is within space)
we know greek is our oldest living language pre dating hebrew and others and we know greek is from the balkans peninsular location
we see uranus is not shown on greek pottery but is described in words
so
someone a very long time ago remembers earth (gaia) within an environment where uranus was earths sun and that same someone knew what we have recently discovered
all material anything in our universe is formed from aether which then possess the ability to form in it`s own likeness within aethers environment
as in:
aether environment is conducive to that which it forms it`s self forming in it`s own likeness within the aether itself was formed within by aether
 Quoting: aether

...


...


they mostly got it right
and
we see the entire creative storyline of western culture encased in the original knowing of our greeks even to the creative process of something from nothing and the something from nothing being able to recreate in it`s own likeness

in it`s own likeness

does that ring a bell

what we have done is replace aether with another story line and description of aether while retaining the process inclusive of
in my own likeness
 Quoting: aether


Indeed

I had that in mind since my thread became 'stale' as it were

Like 'Nirvana-Shakti'

= Power from the void
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


exactly
void become void to the unknowing (no memory) thus it has taken a long linear time (to us) for us to rediscover that void is a name for that which we once knew as aether
which
in our 21 st century has become visible again to our senses and it`s structural functions measurable to our technology we formed from our imagination to explain what we imagined
thus we have imagined ourselves back into reality
reality as in:
our imagination now once again matches our non imaginary (reality) environment
thus our imaginations will begin to imagine in phase to our environment for the first time in many thousands of linear years
 Quoting: aether


it get`s better
now we see why our greeks knew about spontaneous life

origin of life

Belief in the ongoing spontaneous generation of certain forms of life from non-living matter goes back to ancient Greek philosophy and continued to have support in Western scholarship until the 19th century; this was paired with the belief in heterogenesis, i.e. that one form of life derived from a different form (e.g. bees from flowers).

The first experimental evidence against spontaneous generation came in 1668 when Francesco Redi showed that no maggots appeared in meat when flies were prevented from laying eggs. It was gradually shown that, at least in the case of all the higher and readily visible organisms, the previous sentiment regarding spontaneous generation was false. The alternative seemed to be biogenesis: that every living thing came from a pre-existing living thing (omne vivum ex ovo, Latin for "every living thing from an egg").....................

.....................In 1768, Lazzaro Spallanzani demonstrated that microbes were present in the air, and could be killed by boiling. In 1861, Louis Pasteur performed a series of experiments that demonstrated that organisms such as bacteria and fungi do not spontaneously appear in sterile, nutrient-rich media, but only invade them from outside.

Pasteur and Darwin


By the middle of the 19th century, the theory of biogenesis had accumulated so much evidential support, due to the work of Louis Pasteur and others, that the alternative theory of spontaneous generation had been effectively disproven. Pasteur himself remarked, after a definitive finding in 1864, "Never will the doctrine of spontaneous generation recover from the mortal blow struck by this simple experiment
 Quoting: observation

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and the two process were hard to reconcile
our memory told us spontaneous life (aether/z pinch) was true
but
our experiences within the domain of earth dominant influence , our magnetosphere. provided only examples of in it`s own likeness life provides life

it was not until we ourselves went outside of earths magnetosphere that we discovered our memory was true
because
within earths domain the z pinch/aether process is sublime because there is no reason for it to be noticeable, earths process`s dominate
but
outside of earths domain aether/z pinch is visible in it`s affects upon all things because all things act differently outside of earths dominant force of influence
 Quoting: aether


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remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
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i think we are getting to it /z\ is buddhas unanswered question
 Quoting: aether


Fixation begets all problems. As without acceptance of transition; You will likely presuppose all answers based on said position of fixation.

Addiction begets cyclicality.

Eventually you lose the true basis of being ; that standing as right action over that pointedly fixated.

In essence that which overly organically fits the flow over that which is reflected from a self serving and quite redundant point.
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is to notice
a fixation
is to know what you notice
becoming fixated on what you know

i don`t get it

is breathing fixation

is being fixation

nothing = fixation
cos
fixation = everything

where did buddah go to escape that
cos our non material dimensions will never support his imagination outside of this locations domain
he will reincarnate when this location commences reincarnation
that is for certain
 Quoting: aether


Breathing is the motion that is the balance of basis.

It is that which brings locality within and places our understanding without.

Breathing is a measure of state.

Transition can be envisioned as the state of awareness between 2 things blossoming outward. Eventually the commonality is lost in the supposed complexity.

Until of course rendered as simplicity through the complexity (concressence) of the machina which interfaces with it.
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question

where were ignorant, craving and clinging located before they magicked up a planet to perform on
this prompts a very yuck view of our non material dimensions cos it suggests that everything nasty comes from the non material dimensions
if that is true
where does Buddha go
material is out
non material is out
both ignorant, craving and clingy

is the unknowable singularity location /z\ responsible for everything but unattached to everything

a buddhist may tell us because this is a current popular belief

i think
 Quoting: aether


what i know of Buddhism informally
- there is no "going" only "being" within a change in perception
- that material/non-material are different perceptions of aspects of an inclusive all
- that one orders one's perceptions according to knowledge and will, but this is a limitation
- when limitations are not is when one can align with true
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Good morning everyone.


It appears my laptop is once again turning itself on in the middle of the night.

I guess it wasn't AVG after all...

hmm


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question

where were ignorant, craving and clinging located before they magicked up a planet to perform on
this prompts a very yuck view of our non material dimensions cos it suggests that everything nasty comes from the non material dimensions
if that is true
where does Buddha go
material is out
non material is out
both ignorant, craving and clingy

is the unknowable singularity location /z\ responsible for everything but unattached to everything

a buddhist may tell us because this is a current popular belief

i think
 Quoting: aether


what i know of Buddhism informally
- there is no "going" only "being" within a change in perception
- that material/non-material are different perceptions of aspects of an inclusive all
- that one orders one's perceptions according to knowledge and will, but this is a limitation
- when limitations are not is when one can align with true
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that sounds quite healthy
think of this possibility if you will
let us say, for the point of this topic, in 1950`s onwards we went into space
in the following 60 + years discoveries were made in space that are considered irrevocably true
without thought of what these irrevocable truths may or may not mean, they are considered vital enough to be incorporated in all and anything we know
somehow

now

upon discovery of these truths , looking back through all our records of truths, they are missing. as in:
not recorded by any god, saint, or person of notable standing within our recorded history

thus what do we do

do we make it appear it was said by placing meanings to what was said in our past that we know was never imagined in our past
or
do we not

the reason we think on this topic is this

is it our intention to provide our previous history with something it never possessed
or
are we wishing to do something else

this point has meaning to our authorities and before choices are made it is thought important that the choices being made are recognized for what they are

our own choices
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05/05/2013 11:23 AM

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Good morning everyone.


It appears my laptop is once again turning itself on in the middle of the night.

I guess it wasn't AVG after all...

hmm


flower
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good morning

i like that tounge
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05/05/2013 11:28 AM

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Good morning everyone.


It appears my laptop is once again turning itself on in the middle of the night.

I guess it wasn't AVG after all...

hmm


flower
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good morning

i like that tounge
 Quoting: aether


It stopped, or it didn't wake me, for quite a while after I installed Panda cloud. I noticed it happened a few days ago, then last night as well.

It's strange, it only turns on for maybe 7 or 8 seconds, belts out a few lines, then goes silent again.

Haha....

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