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Good morning everyone.


It appears my laptop is once again turning itself on in the middle of the night.

I guess it wasn't AVG after all...

hmm


flower
 Quoting: Seer777


good morning

i like that tounge
 Quoting: aether


It stopped, or it didn't wake me, for quite a while after I installed Panda cloud. I noticed it happened a few days ago, then last night as well.

It's strange, it only turns on for maybe 7 or 8 seconds, belts out a few lines, then goes silent again.

Haha....

coffee4
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imagine being anywhere on our planet just a 120 years ago and for all recorded history before that and experiencing the same
from a disconnected to anything visible piece of shaped metal recognizable music arose then stopped, frequently

what would the affect have been on you and any whom you told where you to possess the frame of mind of just 120 years ago tounge

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imagine being anywhere on our planet just a 120 years ago and for all recorded history before that and experiencing the same
from a disconnected to anything visible piece of shaped metal recognizable music arose then stopped, frequently

what would the affect have been on you and any whom you told
where you to possess the frame of mind of just 120 years ago tounge
 Quoting: aether


I probably would have been burned alive. Or had my skin flayed from my body, using clam shells...

damned
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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imagine being anywhere on our planet just a 120 years ago and for all recorded history before that and experiencing the same
from a disconnected to anything visible piece of shaped metal recognizable music arose then stopped, frequently

what would the affect have been on you and any whom you told
where you to possess the frame of mind of just 120 years ago tounge
 Quoting: aether


I probably would have been burned alive. Or had my skin flayed from my body, using clam shells...

damned
 Quoting: Seer777


let`s change topic

cos it feels true

yuck damned
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[link to www.youtube.com]

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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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look what theosophy just said

then what is the point of science?
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one of its benefits is that it essentially coheres thoughts; a trait it inherited from its Parent - Philosophy.
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i never saw the link before tounge
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BentGracefully
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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 Quoting: Seer777


magnificent dancing tounge
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


One month off from '97

February 3, 1998

The Spinning of a Black Box.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511582


damned

Do you remember once awakening and staring at the box. Looking inside you wondered how it would feel to confine yourself, to define yourself.

Upon entering you noticed the door and pulled it on hinge towards yourself. Seeing the flip lock inside, you flipped it shut.

Comfortable in the knowledge you could release yourself from it's cramped feeling of permanence. You radiated in its dense darkness. The visions in your mind the only light.

Slowly you allowed your minds eye to view the box from without. You realized you had become separate. You were without the ability to slip the clasp. As you were outside the box.

What was within it had become foreign. Round and round you spun. An infinity of Schroediger's cats mewled. You had forgotten the look of that within. In it's place was fear and anxiety.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


A bump.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731
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Comets do not resemble anything whatsoever to snow or ice structures. Multiple space probes to cometary nuclei, including impactors with ejecta, reveal only asteroid-like bodies. Is the press and science community deaf, dumb, and blind to their own data? The dirty snowball idea is so far from reality as to be utterly ridiculous to be considered a serious theory any longer. Yet the same old story continues to be published in late-breaking press releases, articles, and science courses!
 Quoting: observation
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noticing a constant
constantly provides direction (steering)
if there is interest in where to go next
no interest = no choice
which i am sure is desired by most cos then there is nothing to think about of future meaning tounge
 Quoting: aether


thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


One month off from '97

February 3, 1998

The Spinning of a Black Box.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511582


damned

Do you remember once awakening and staring at the box. Looking inside you wondered how it would feel to confine yourself, to define yourself.

Upon entering you noticed the door and pulled it on hinge towards yourself. Seeing the flip lock inside, you flipped it shut.

Comfortable in the knowledge you could release yourself from it's cramped feeling of permanence. You radiated in its dense darkness. The visions in your mind the only light.

Slowly you allowed your minds eye to view the box from without. You realized you had become separate. You were without the ability to slip the clasp. As you were outside the box.

What was within it had become foreign. Round and round you spun. An infinity of Schroediger's cats mewled. You had forgotten the look of that within. In it's place was fear and anxiety.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


A bump.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731

 Quoting: Septenary Man


hi sept
why where you shown a box
if you were
is the motive

maybe

remembering
consciousness by definition is motivated

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Truth is...Idol1
 Quoting: RAIN MAN d(-_-)b


Square and compass.

Angle and curve.


G=7

:rebis:
 Quoting: Seer777


hf 7 letter . . . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39072552


7th yes.


Also...one which utilizes both the curve and right angle.

'G'

4+3=7.


Fischer

Movement in spirals...

 Quoting: Seer777




shooo shooo little masons and druids

read your William Blake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39325174


Those are labels.

Little more.

What do those labels mean to you?

hmm



The symbolism speaks for itself.

triangle1

0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21.....................


Round and round...
 Quoting: Seer777


^^^

Just noticed for the first time after posting that image at least a hundred times...

It looks like a 'G'.

Haha.


banana


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ouroboros


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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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thus any thought is the right thought because no thought is thought in expectation of future affect
 Quoting: aether


remember, As affects go; there are no effects. Infinity as discussed holds all positions. Conciousness claims them momentarily.

In effect, you are staring at a statue that you so adore; you have become it.

You hold it above all else.

This is the conundrum of the golden age.

This is why I presented the box thereabouts 1997.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


One month off from '97

February 3, 1998

The Spinning of a Black Box.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511582


damned

Do you remember once awakening and staring at the box. Looking inside you wondered how it would feel to confine yourself, to define yourself.

Upon entering you noticed the door and pulled it on hinge towards yourself. Seeing the flip lock inside, you flipped it shut.

Comfortable in the knowledge you could release yourself from it's cramped feeling of permanence. You radiated in its dense darkness. The visions in your mind the only light.

Slowly you allowed your minds eye to view the box from without. You realized you had become separate. You were without the ability to slip the clasp. As you were outside the box.

What was within it had become foreign. Round and round you spun. An infinity of Schroediger's cats mewled. You had forgotten the look of that within. In it's place was fear and anxiety.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


A bump.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731

 Quoting: Septenary Man


hi sept
why where you shown a box
if you were
is the motive

maybe

remembering
consciousness by definition is motivated
 Quoting: aether


I don't know. I was never able to pry that answer. What motive the sender or I had in viewing/experiencing that box, I have never figured out.

The only thing I may have come away with is the thought that the box contained all the information in the universe. That thought came much later after the experience though.

I've searched since 1998 for any reference to that spinning black box, and only came across maybe 2-3 references of something similar in all these years. And, those that referenced it had no answers for me.
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I don't know. I was never able to pry that answer. What motive the sender or I had in viewing/experiencing that box, I have never figured out.

The only thing I may have come away with is the thought that the box contained all the information in the universe. That thought came much later after the experience though.

I've searched since 1998 for any reference to that spinning black box, and only came across maybe 2-3 references of something similar in all these years. And, those that referenced it had no answers for me.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


what was it`s design
square, rectangle or..........
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I don't know. I was never able to pry that answer. What motive the sender or I had in viewing/experiencing that box, I have never figured out.

The only thing I may have come away with is the thought that the box contained all the information in the universe. That thought came much later after the experience though.

I've searched since 1998 for any reference to that spinning black box, and only came across maybe 2-3 references of something similar in all these years. And, those that referenced it had no answers for me.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


what was it`s design
square, rectangle or..........
 Quoting: aether


square. matte black. probably 6 inches each side, maybe a little smaller. spinning above my torso about 18 inches or so off my lower chest. It spun on a flat side, not on one of it's corners. Spin direction in reference to my sight was counterclockwise. The spin was very fast, but not fast enough that I could not tell it was a cube. no reflections, no light shining off it. I thought I was in my body, but I was both in my body and outside it at the same time. In other words, when I reached up to grasp it I thought I was using my physical body, but when I saw my arms and hands, they were transparent and glowing a subtle blue. When I attempted to wrap my hand around it, it was like I was hitting a magnetic field that was repulsing my hands instead of attracting them.

When it 'winked' out, there was 100% no transition or loss of consciousness or confusion. When it winked out, my transparent blue arms and hands winked out as well. I didn't even blink. I just laid there, trying to move. The rushing sound left with the disappearance of the cube.
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square. matte black. probably 6 inches each side, maybe a little smaller. spinning above my torso about 18 inches or so off my lower chest. It spun on a flat side, not on one of it's corners. Spin direction in reference to my sight was counterclockwise. The spin was very fast, but not fast enough that I could not tell it was a cube. no reflections, no light shining off it. I thought I was in my body, but I was both in my body and outside it at the same time. In other words, when I reached up to grasp it I thought I was using my physical body, but when I saw my arms and hands, they were transparent and glowing a subtle blue. When I attempted to wrap my hand around it, it was like I was hitting a magnetic field that was repulsing my hands instead of attracting them.

When it 'winked' out, there was 100% no transition or loss of consciousness or confusion. When it winked out, my transparent blue arms and hands winked out as well. I didn't even blink. I just laid there, trying to move. The rushing sound left with the disappearance of the cube.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


prelude to this

I was asked to play in my lucid dream sandbox about this.

So, I played last night in my sand box. I am getting ready for work, so I can't write it out now, but I saw why this statement must be true. This is from the paper quoted.

[link to arxiv.org]
"An answer to “why no magnetic monopoles?” is now clear. So long as there were thought to
exist the electrical monopoles known as charges, a deep belief in symmetry demanded that we consider
and look for magnetic monopoles. This study concludes that there are no electrical monopoles. To this
extent, symmetry has been recovered."

My study (hehe) also concluded there cannot be any monopoles. Monopoles instability actually LEADS TO dipoles. They either collapse, or form dipoles. (I need to explain why...but later) Funny, I am looking at the stuff they cannot see. It has to do with contained spin forms that are spiral. What creates the spin forms? Light. Light is the only TRUE constant, therefor there are no fluctuations in the speed of the spin. The only way for dipoles to remain absolutely stable like they do, is with an absolute constant defining it.

More later.

Also, I played for about 2 hours with Klein Bubbles. Awesome. You know what I requested to 'see'? That's right. Black holes. BTW, they come in all sorts of shapes, not merely spherical. I imagine the ones nested at the center of the galaxies must be mainly spherical...but, they are absolutely incredible things! I even experimented with a supernova entering a black hole. WHOA! The result the volume was annihilated, but the skin still existed, although very shriveled up and emaciated. For relation, the size of the volume would be a house, and the skin would be a quarter after the interaction and implode/explode of the two.

Also, I experimented with injecting a massive object into the Klein Bubbles, and it resulted in a Klein Bottle effect.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Is the electron a photon with
toroidal topology?

[link to docs.google.com]


"Since matter is created from photons, and photons are entirely electromagnetic, it follows that matter is indeed made up of EM fields. They are arranged differently, in light and in particles.

I have found a way to arrange the EM fields to achieve the particle properties of charge, mass, angular momentum, spin, and stability. The paper is posted on arxiv under physics/0611266. The electron can be modeled as a dipolar B field that morphs into a toroidal E field, and back, at the Compton frequency. The electric and magnetic fluxes are
quantized. Precession of this spinning model about a different axis then creates "charge". Mass is the encapsulated kinetic energy of these changing and spinning EM fields. Charge is created by a vxB mechanism of the spinning dipolar B field."

[link to lofi.forum.physorg.com]
 Quoting: Sept

 Quoting: Sept

 Quoting: Sept865798


is how it feels tounge
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Imagine yourself as a garden. Nurture and protect it:)
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interesting
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interesting
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oh, lol. Good connection aether.
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shooo shooo little masons and druids

read your William Blake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39325174


Those are labels.

Little more.

What do those labels mean to you?

hmm



The symbolism speaks for itself.

triangle1

0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21.....................


Round and round...
 Quoting: Seer777


^^^

Just noticed for the first time after posting that image at least a hundred times...

It looks like a 'G'.

Haha.


banana


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ouroboros

ohyeah
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does noticing a g
alter destiny
prompting us to notice
that
energy/information/emotion arising within our material dimension within any location
is immersed within gravity which by nature steers all things inwards
thus prompting spherical geometry
the foundation of all we see
 Quoting: aether
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Good morning everyone



[link to youtu.be]
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Good morning pi.

How are you feeling today?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Good morning pi.

How are you feeling today?
 Quoting: Seer777


....

Not great, to be honest

Another panic attack upon waking

Seems to be dissipating now

Once I start meditating I tend not to be troubled anymore



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And though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me: Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.

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Good morning pi.

How are you feeling today?
 Quoting: Seer777


....

Not great, to be honest

Another panic attack upon waking


Seems to be dissipating now

Once I start meditating I tend not to be troubled anymore



[link to youtu.be]
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I see.

Do you know what triggered it? What is the 'main symptom' if you will...

Because you often speak of pain in your heart and I worry it may be something else.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Good morning pi.

How are you feeling today?
 Quoting: Seer777


....

Not great, to be honest

Another panic attack upon waking


Seems to be dissipating now

Once I start meditating I tend not to be troubled anymore



[link to youtu.be]
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I see.

Do you know what triggered it? What is the 'main symptom' if you will...

Because you often speak of pain in your heart and I worry it may be something else.
 Quoting: Seer777


I'd rather not discuss the thoughts that triggered it.

It is in my gut.

I also have IBS. 'Anxious' feelings can be one way the body deals with the pain.
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I'd rather not discuss the thoughts that triggered it.

It is in my gut.

I also have IBS. 'Anxious' feelings can be one way the body deals with the pain.
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I understand.

My stomach has been hurting all morning as well. I chose not to eat the oatmeal which was prepared for me, due to the queasiness.

Feeling a bit better now.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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I'd rather not discuss the thoughts that triggered it.

It is in my gut.

I also have IBS. 'Anxious' feelings can be one way the body deals with the pain.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I understand.

My stomach has been hurting all morning as well. I chose not to eat the oatmeal which was prepared for me, due to the queasiness.

Feeling a bit better now.
 Quoting: Seer777


Perhaps there is something in the air. Some sort of weird static.

It feels like stuff is about to happen.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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good morning pi



....

So, not sure if anyone remembers this, but nearer the beginning of this year, I would sometimes make posts regarding my heart chakra, and its energy levels.

Anyways, today I again feel it very strongly. The same 'sinking' feeling I would often get.

hmm

Today, it is crippling. Not painful. But is sucking the life out of me, it feels.




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Didn't you say the other day you were 'taking a break' from ...pyschostimulants(?) I believe it was.

Could it be that by chance?

Or perhaps it is anxiety. Do you feel anxious about something?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


the sensations that are prompted by sensation
memory of sensations
prompts same sensations
is that possible
hmm
 Quoting: aether
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I'd rather not discuss the thoughts that triggered it.

It is in my gut.

I also have IBS. 'Anxious' feelings can be one way the body deals with the pain.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I understand.

My stomach has been hurting all morning as well. I chose not to eat the oatmeal which was prepared for me, due to the queasiness.

Feeling a bit better now.
 Quoting: Seer777


That is good. My feelings have begun to shift that way as well.

At least some of my feelings can be attributed to stimulant withdrawal.

It was quite nasty for a while.

I don't get cravings much, but as those are a psychological offset mechanism in their own right, I tend to feel more severe withdrawals.
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I'd rather not discuss the thoughts that triggered it.

It is in my gut.

I also have IBS. 'Anxious' feelings can be one way the body deals with the pain.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I understand.

My stomach has been hurting all morning as well. I chose not to eat the oatmeal which was prepared for me, due to the queasiness.

Feeling a bit better now.
 Quoting: Seer777


Perhaps there is something in the air. Some sort of weird static.

It feels like stuff is about to happen.

 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I second this....
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good morning pi



the sensations that are prompted by sensation
memory of sensations
prompts same sensations
is that possible
hmm
 Quoting: aether

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Yes.

Part of my problem is that I tend to latch onto thoughts/sensations and loop them.

It is helpful for meditating.... terrible for anxiety.

Often nostalgia plays a part.

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