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Azeratel Axo

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the god king
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I believe that certain elite forces would like to return mankind to that epoch of 'the god king'.

Thus the popularization of the super hero genre in our current climate of cultural propaganda.

However, someone miscalculated. Mankind likes the fantasy, but hates the reality.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


that assumes the god king was once true
but
if it was never true
history repeats itself
when the quest is to discover
that which never exists
because those on the quest
never look for anything else

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Thread: UPDATE!!! March 15 2014... Free Energy Machine in Brazil??? THIS IS THE FUTURE!!!! New photos+info!!

At the bottom of the web site they claim it uses gravity??


Available in any quantity, place and moment, for anyone.

The energy contained in the planet gravity.

Generating power forever, the mechanic movement continuos and perpetual is powered exclusively by gravity.

RAR Energia Ltda.

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hmm

Is this near you, per chance?
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This "ancestor-king" is so completely identified with the Golden Age that it is impossible to separate the one myth from the other. There is no Golden Age without a founding king, no founding king without a Golden Age.

The fabulous chronology of Egyptian kings or pharaohs offers a telling example. In his sweeping history of ancient Egypt, the Greek historian Herodotus enumerates the early lineage of kings. He tells us that there was a first king of Egypt, and his name was Helios. This first king of Egypt was not a mere mortal! He was a celestial power.

Of course Herodotus was simply translating an Egyptian name into Greek. For the Egyptians, the institution of kingship began with the rule of the primeval sun god Atum or Ra, who, prior to his retirement from the world, founded the Zep Tepi, the First Time, or Golden Age.

In Egypt all of the kingship rites point backwards to the age of Ra, a supreme god celebrated from one end of Egypt to the other as the prototype of kings. Indeed, every historical king's or pharaoh's authority derived from a connection to the ancestral king, for as the best Egyptologists have pointed out, the pharaoh was accredited as such by the claim that the blood of Atum-Ra coursed through his veins.

In rites deeply rooted in Egyptian cosmology, each new king symbolically ascended the throne of Ra, took as spouse Ra's own mistress, the mother goddess, wielded Ra's scepter, built temples and cities modeled after Ra's temple or city in the sky, adorned himself with the beard of the god, wore the crown of Ra as his own, and defeated neighboring enemies in just the way that Ra had defeated the hordes of darkness or chaos in the Zep Tepi. Identification of local king and celestial prototype was absolute.

Such is the universal tradition. Every king was, in a magical way, the Universal Monarch reborn. And this is why the chroniclers of king took such pains to establish the unbroken line. Only by proclaiming that the local king carried the blood of his predecessor, the Universal Monarch, could they certify his suitability for the prescribed function of kings.

The ancient Sumerians repeatedly proclaimed that kingship had descended directly from the creator-king An, the most ancient and highest god of the pantheon, and the revered founder of the Golden Age.

Consider the myths and images of the Hindu Brahma, Manu or Yama, the Iranian Yima, Danish Frodhi, or Chinese Huang-Ti--all models of the good king, ruling over a primitive paradise. The respective cultures esteemed these mythical figures as prototypes. In later ages the chroniclers have such figures ruling on earth. But in the earliest traditions the kingdom is in the sky, and the ancient rule of the Universal Monarch is one of the most pervasive archetypes of world mythology.

Natives of Mexico insisted that the great god Quetzalcoatl, a sun god who ruled before the present sun, was their first king and founder of the kingship rites. He not only introduced all of the arts of civilization, but presided over an ancient paradise.

The ancient Maya proclaimed that their once-spectacular civilization had its origins in the rule of the creator-king and god of the Golden Age, Itzam Na. At the center of Mayan culture, stood the sovereign chief, announcing himself as something like "the King of Kings and ruler of the world, regent on earth of the great Itzam Na."

The leading Mayan expert, J. Eric Thompson, saw this as an "inflated notion of grandeur….a sort of divine right of kings which would have turned James I green with envy." And yet throughout the ancient world, one encounters this divine "grandeur" of kings at every turn". [link to thunderbolts.info]
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that assumes the god king was once true
but
if it was never true
history repeats itself
when the quest is to discover
that which never exists
because those on the quest
never look for anything else
 Quoting: aether


Interesting. Yes. History does repeat itself, yet at the same time evolves into a new manifestation of the form.

I don't know if it was ever true or not. But my beliefs and even the truth itself may not be relevant.

We have never seen a time in our recorded history like the present. The bonds of belief these days are not contained by any religion, nation, cause, or idea. Yet, never has so much effort been put into the control of information/ideas/beliefs as we see today.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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that assumes the god king was once true
but
if it was never true
history repeats itself
when the quest is to discover
that which never exists
because those on the quest
never look for anything else
 Quoting: aether


Interesting. Yes. History does repeat itself, yet at the same time evolves into a new manifestation of the form.

I don't know if it was ever true or not. But my beliefs and even the truth itself may not be relevant.

We have never seen a time in our recorded history like the present. The bonds of belief these days are not contained by any religion, nation, cause, or idea. Yet, never has so much effort been put into the control of information/ideas/beliefs as we see today.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Truly



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Now if only so much was not stubbornly entrenched despite proof of the utility of the contrary

*cough cough*

DRUG WAR

*cough cough*
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Messianism is the belief in a messiah, a savior or redeemer. Many religions have a messiah concept, including the Jewish Messiah, the Christian Christ, the Muslim Mahdi and Isa (Arabic name for Jesus), the Buddhist Maitreya, the Hindu Kalki and the Zoroastrian Saoshyant. The state of the world is seen as hopelessly flawed beyond normal human powers of correction, and divine intervention through a specially selected and supported human is seen as necessary.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Messianism is the belief in a messiah, a savior or redeemer. Many religions have a messiah concept, including the Jewish Messiah, the Christian Christ, the Muslim Mahdi and Isa (Arabic name for Jesus), the Buddhist Maitreya, the Hindu Kalki and the Zoroastrian Saoshyant. The state of the world is seen as hopelessly flawed beyond normal human powers of correction, and divine intervention through a specially selected and supported human is seen as necessary.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


the motivation of control

that assumes the god king was once true
but
if it was never true
history repeats itself
when the quest is to discover
that which never exists
because those on the quest
never look for anything else
 Quoting: aether


Interesting. Yes. History does repeat itself, yet at the same time evolves into a new manifestation of the form.

I don't know if it was ever true or not. But my beliefs and even the truth itself may not be relevant.

We have never seen a time in our recorded history like the present. The bonds of belief these days are not contained by any religion, nation, cause, or idea. Yet, never has so much effort been put into the control of information/ideas/beliefs as we see today.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


is maybe linked to the belief of the controlled people
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DRUG WAR
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A perfect example of how a traditional view has broken down in plane sight, yet very few wish to see it.

cough, cough

Afghanistan poppy fields

cough, cough
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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where all things good news
no god would have motive to return
if you desire a god to return
you must provide motive for the god`s return
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the motivation of control

is maybe linked to the belief of the controlled people
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Thus the Hegelian dialectic that we see played out over and over again.

But more of us are realizing that this messiah fantasy leaves little room for self worth and self reliance.

[link to www.youtube.com]
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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....

Psychiatry divided as mental health 'bible' denounced


....

The world's biggest mental health research institute
is abandoning the new version of psychiatry's "bible" –
the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders,
questioning its validity and stating that

"patients with mental disorders deserve better".

This bombshell comes just weeks before the publication of
the fifth revision of the manual, called DSM-5.


....

 Quoting: [link to www.newscientist.com]





boss

Wonderful

I needed a pick-me-up

burnit
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DRUG WAR
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A perfect example of how a traditional view has broken down in plane sight, yet very few wish to see it.

cough, cough

Afghanistan poppy fields

cough, cough
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


....

Heroin happens to be one of the cheapest substances in the entire world to produce, and it is even cheaper than morphine and opium extracts due to the comparative ease of extracting acetates of morphine from opium tar. Indeed, heroin isn’t even the strongest opioid produced in the acetylation of opium; 6-monoacetylmorphine is reckoned to be more potent and bioavailable, and some users of black market heroin actually prefer the hideous mexican product known as black tar heroin, almost certainly due to the increased presence of 6-MAM compared to “regular” diacetylmorphine.

Without any of the advances inherent in North American agricultural production, - vastly increased scale of manpower, machinery, processing facilities, and chemical fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides - farmers and chemists in Afghanistan are capable of producing a kilogram of purified diacetylmorphine for... (drum roll...) nine-hundred American dollars. A kilogram.

This heroin will be sold on the street for at least $100,000. This means that because of prohibition, habitual opiate use is at least 100 times more expensive than it needs to be. A markup of 10,000%. Imagine paying $500 for a gallon of milk, or better yet, $5000 for a tank of gasoline.

And let’s be honest with ourselves; making gasoline illegal, indeed even turning the entire DEA military squads against the industry in a hostile liquidation, would not only produce a reptilian-style evil grin of revenge on the author’s face, but be a far more responsible use of the government than chasing sickly heroin addicts.


....
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[link to youtu.be]
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good morning pi



the sensations that are prompted by sensation
memory of sensations
prompts same sensations
is that possible
hmm
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Yes.

Part of my problem is that I tend to latch onto thoughts/sensations and loop them.

It is helpful for meditating.... terrible for anxiety.

Often nostalgia plays a part.
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I feel for you friend. Anxiety and panic attacks are the worst.
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A black market does two things. It increases the profit margin. It restrains competition based on a new rule book. The new rule book being their are no rules.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Faithful & Truth
Balance & Unity
Freedom & Liberty
by love, by petition, and by reverence, 3 limes:)
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A black market does two things. It increases the profit margin. It restrains competition based on a new rule book. The new rule book being their are no rules.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Indeed.

Now Chinese chemists are rushing to fill the void.

First with psychedelics and stimulants, then cannabinoids, sedatives, and now, finally opioids, are beginning to emerge on the grey market.

To be honest I feel that the latter will be the most problematic.

Some have emerged that are a good 1000x as potent as heroin, and at least as reinforcing.
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Messianism is the belief in a messiah, a savior or redeemer. Many religions have a messiah concept, including the Jewish Messiah, the Christian Christ, the Muslim Mahdi and Isa (Arabic name for Jesus), the Buddhist Maitreya, the Hindu Kalki and the Zoroastrian Saoshyant. The state of the world is seen as hopelessly flawed beyond normal human powers of correction, and divine intervention through a specially selected and supported human is seen as necessary.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


But, messiah and God King would be two different things. Messiah's do not desire to control, only show how it is possible to advance certain states of suffering.

God King is more to the taste of control.

It feels like one is 'real' (touched by higher states of awareness, etc), and one is false, using the idea of being touched to control underlings.
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Popping out for a bit

cheer
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[link to www.nytimes.com]

We know who distributes the poppy around the world. We know who gets a cut. The only reason Karzai doesn't get more is because he doesn't have the power to distribute the poppy outside of his country...or even to hold onto his poppy fields without the support of the worldwide military/intelligence complex.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Messianism is the belief in a messiah, a savior or redeemer. Many religions have a messiah concept, including the Jewish Messiah, the Christian Christ, the Muslim Mahdi and Isa (Arabic name for Jesus), the Buddhist Maitreya, the Hindu Kalki and the Zoroastrian Saoshyant. The state of the world is seen as hopelessly flawed beyond normal human powers of correction, and divine intervention through a specially selected and supported human is seen as necessary.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


But, messiah and God King would be two different things. Messiah's do not desire to control, only show how it is possible to advance certain states of suffering.

God King is more to the taste of control.

It feels like one is 'real' (touched by higher states of awareness, etc), and one is false, using the idea of being touched to control underlings.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that`s good /z\
teachers not rulers
thus they say things that makes sense to all
and in doing so
remove the need to rule

is that right
remembering the original motive of a god king
is
their existence prompts golden age lifestyle for all
thus messiah must provide the same state of golden age
their way

maybe it is information
that is the key
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[link to www.nytimes.com]

We know who distributes the poppy around the world. We know who gets a cut. The only reason Karzai doesn't get more is because he doesn't have the power to distribute the poppy outside of his country...or even to hold onto his poppy fields without the support of the worldwide military/intelligence complex.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


off balance sheet income eases tax payers burden

i am told tounge
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[link to www.nytimes.com]

We know who distributes the poppy around the world. We know who gets a cut. The only reason Karzai doesn't get more is because he doesn't have the power to distribute the poppy outside of his country...or even to hold onto his poppy fields without the support of the worldwide military/intelligence complex.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


off balance sheet income eases tax payers burden

i am told tounge
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For some it does. Selective enforcement.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I regularly turn 2 cents of metal into $16.

What is the mark up there? I was thinking about this yesterday.

hmm

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Messianism is the belief in a messiah, a savior or redeemer. Many religions have a messiah concept, including the Jewish Messiah, the Christian Christ, the Muslim Mahdi and Isa (Arabic name for Jesus), the Buddhist Maitreya, the Hindu Kalki and the Zoroastrian Saoshyant. The state of the world is seen as hopelessly flawed beyond normal human powers of correction, and divine intervention through a specially selected and supported human is seen as necessary.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


But, messiah and God King would be two different things. Messiah's do not desire to control, only show how it is possible to advance certain states of suffering.

God King is more to the taste of control.

It feels like one is 'real' (touched by higher states of awareness, etc), and one is false, using the idea of being touched to control underlings.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that`s good /z\
teachers not rulers
thus they say things that makes sense to all
and in doing so
remove the need to rule

is that right
remembering the original motive of a god king
is
their existence prompts golden age lifestyle for all
thus messiah must provide the same state of golden age
their way

maybe it is information
that is the key
 Quoting: aether


Not only information though, but other aspects, one that you touch on all the time. Emotion. Two sets. One going the way of greed, arrogance, insecurity, etc, leading to the the need to control. And the other path, compassion, integrity, empathy, etc., leading to the path that removes the need to control.

One's a pyramid, and one's a torus.
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 Quoting: aether


But, messiah and God King would be two different things. Messiah's do not desire to control, only show how it is possible to advance certain states of suffering.

God King is more to the taste of control.

It feels like one is 'real' (touched by higher states of awareness, etc), and one is false, using the idea of being touched to control underlings.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that`s good /z\
teachers not rulers
thus they say things that makes sense to all
and in doing so
remove the need to rule

is that right
remembering the original motive of a god king
is
their existence prompts golden age lifestyle for all
thus messiah must provide the same state of golden age
their way

maybe it is information
that is the key
 Quoting: aether


Not only information though, but other aspects, one that you touch on all the time. Emotion. Two sets. One going the way of greed, arrogance, insecurity, etc, leading to the the need to control. And the other path, compassion, integrity, empathy, etc., leading to the path that removes the need to control.

One's a pyramid, and one's a torus.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


interesting that because the pyramid signs vortice
but vortice was unknown to our translators
like our swastika was unknown as vortice to
funny how not knowing can alter something liberating into something constraining
that on one likes
but those whom desire to constrain
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...


Perhaps there is something in the air. Some sort of weird static.

It feels like stuff is about to happen.

 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


hmm

I second this....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo



So, what's happening May 7th?

5...7..9. Feeling fine.
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I'll ask the magic 8-ball

[link to www.gematrix.org]

hmm

This was cool:

"The self in progression is forever unmanifest a series of not selves in ceaseless becoming"
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Thus it is.
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But, messiah and God King would be two different things. Messiah's do not desire to control, only show how it is possible to advance certain states of suffering.

God King is more to the taste of control.

It feels like one is 'real' (touched by higher states of awareness, etc), and one is false, using the idea of being touched to control underlings.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that`s good /z\
teachers not rulers
thus they say things that makes sense to all
and in doing so
remove the need to rule

is that right
remembering the original motive of a god king
is
their existence prompts golden age lifestyle for all
thus messiah must provide the same state of golden age
their way

maybe it is information
that is the key
 Quoting: aether


Not only information though, but other aspects, one that you touch on all the time. Emotion. Two sets. One going the way of greed, arrogance, insecurity, etc, leading to the the need to control. And the other path, compassion, integrity, empathy, etc., leading to the path that removes the need to control.

One's a pyramid, and one's a torus.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


interesting that because the pyramid signs vortice
but vortice was unknown to our translators
like our swastika was unknown as vortice to
funny how not knowing can alter something liberating into something constraining
that on one likes
but those whom desire to constrain
 Quoting: aether


Pyramid defines the hierarchical. Was it misrepresented at some past point? It is further complexity in comparison to the torus form. Torus form, all participants are equal within its in-flows and ex-flows. The pyramid is outside the torus, with it's spiraling form diminishing all variables to a point. With the torus, the spiraling form includes all variables within its point.

One leads to a singular central singularity, the other leads to an all-encompassing singular central singularity.

Perhaps that is why we saw the God King and Messiah initially as the same. They are part of the same overall construct, but are manifested differently.

hmm

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