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No one is greater than another - all have different paths to the light eventually. Some will go dark, many grey but I have to believe there is a higher cause for it all and God/Source/whatever you want name this supreme higher power loves us has a plan for it all.

It's easy to judge obviously as it's inherent in our perception but it isn't the goal. Who are we to say anyone is greater than another? Who's to say one person can't rise from the ashes and be a huge positive to society? Who's to say we don't all have the divine in us? What makes one great even? One's heart that could turn cold or bitter? One's intelligence that can be lost in an instant? One's grounded nature that can come unglued in a second? One's accomplishments that can be forgotten, ignored, stolen, blasphemed, undone by one's behavior, etc.?

Are we giving our own power to be way to heroes and messiahs by worshipping them versus being grateful for their messages?
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I disagree.

But I also agree that eventually, hopefully, all will see the error. And 'rise above' there own selfishness in action and thought.



I reference Utopia...

For if you suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.”
~Thomas More, Utopia


201...I remember another 201...
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I could'nt watch that woman fight. I don't care to even see it.
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.
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I could'nt watch that woman fight. I don't care to even see it.
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I hear ya...

Like I mentioned a few times in the past...if GLP allowed a type of 'x' button which would allow the user to 'block' thread titles one finds offensive...would be nice.


I saw something earlier this morning, which caused me to throw up in my mouth a little.

Horrible stuff...some people do.


The vid I provided here, has nothing on that...


What is SEEN, can not be UNSEEN.

Even 'titles'.

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Pi, people worship, adore, support, etc. all kinds of "heroes" in modern society and religious figures. Is it really healthy? I was asked once who my heroes were about 9 months ago. I said you guys (my brothers in arms who seek to know themselves and their God.) I said those who are willing to be vulnerable enough to really look at themselves, express their feelings and willing enough to examine themselves, be willing, and do right despite life's "opportunities" for growth.
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Pi, people worship, adore, support, etc. all kinds of "heroes" in modern society and religious figures. Is it really healthy? I was asked once who my heroes were about 9 months ago. I said you guys (my brothers in arms who seek to know themselves and their God.) I said those who are willing to be vulnerable enough to really look at themselves, express their feelings and willing enough to examine themselves, be willing, and do right despite life's "opportunities" for growth.
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Then you are missing half the picture...if not more 201.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Pi, people worship, adore, support, etc. all kinds of "heroes" in modern society and religious figures. Is it really healthy? I was asked once who my heroes were about 9 months ago. I said you guys (my brothers in arms who seek to know themselves and their God.) I said those who are willing to be vulnerable enough to really look at themselves, express their feelings and willing enough to examine themselves, be willing, and do right despite life's "opportunities" for growth.
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I think it is healthy as long as we are continually inspired.

I'd call Friedrich Nietzsche a 'hero' of mine in some respects.

That sort of thing.
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I hear you. Reading some of the titles get me upset and I don't click on them. This world has gone insane. If I watch the negative happenings on here,and the news,I would'nt be able to sleep at night.

Especially to children it bothers me.

It seems so many people these days have become thankless ones. I am always greatful for the things I have,even the thought of running hot water when I take a shower,because some people don't have these luxuries.
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There was a typo "giving our power, to be, away"

Are we giving away our own "energy" as it were? I just don't believe people like Jesus and Buddha and other "messengers" would say worship me, worship me as it is "relayed" to people today. People need to work on themselves - not look outside but inside as so many have said for so long. You guys on this thread already know this of course.

I like the story of Jesus and the disciples where they were asked who's the christ. They all pointed the finger at the other guy "he's the christ, no he's the christ, no he's the christ."

It's ego when all aren't viewed as equals.
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Seer, it was guys in the boat with me. If it there were ladies in the boat it would of been sisters too. :)
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They would just wan't love and respect,like you would wish to be treated. They would rule with truth, justice and mercy,surely.

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There was a typo "giving our power, to be, away"

Are we giving away our own "energy" as it were? I just don't believe people like Jesus and Buddha and other "messengers" would say worship me, worship me as it is "relayed" to people today. People need to work on themselves - not look outside but inside as so many have said for so long. You guys on this thread already know this of course.


I like the story of Jesus and the disciples where they were asked who's the christ. They all pointed the finger at the other guy "he's the christ, no he's the christ, no he's the christ."


It's ego when all aren't viewed as equals.
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interesting.... I hadn't heard that one.
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Seer, it was guys in the boat with me. If it there were ladies in the boat it would of been sisters too. :)
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No it wasn't...

XX
XY

nn all.

I'm sleepy.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Seer, it was guys in the boat with me. If it there were ladies in the boat it would of been sisters too. :)
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No it wasn't...

XX
XY

nn all.

I'm sleepy.
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Sweet dreams hugs
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Seer, it was guys in the boat with me. If it there were ladies in the boat it would of been sisters too. :)
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No it wasn't...

XX
XY

nn all.

I'm sleepy.
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Baloney...

Its like 10 pm out there...

Spill the beans...
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I agree Pi with you on Nietschke and others for where would we be today. I just think the west lives in a "hero" society with people focused on "glamour" and the religious institutions focused on " messiahs, etc." versus understanding that we all have the opportunity to access the divine and intermediaries aren't absolutely necessary. We can ask for help if we want, of course. Sometimes that help comes unannounced like when Jesus showed up during a healing session for me when I least expected it.
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11 pm
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Seer, it was guys in the boat with me. If it there were ladies in the boat it would of been sisters too. :)
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No it wasn't...

XX
XY

nn all.

I'm sleepy.
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Sweet dreams hugs
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tounge

My dreams are so mundane...

All I do is talk to people. People I most often do not recognize, but have a gentle comfort with.


Standing and talking.

Walking and talking.

Writing and talking.


I wouldn't mind a good exhilarating dream...

I think 'cat head' was the last strange and somewhat disturbing dream...


nn pi.


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What Seer? lol They all looked like guys to me. You know something I don't???

Gnight and congrats on your sales this weekend :)
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The eyes guide the flight, to coast one simply has to use the eyes as a steering wheel, of sorts, the physical movement of the eyes behind eyelids while in altered state directs the direction of hmmm how to describe, the direction of awareness might fit.

It's in the eyes...
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The eyes guide the flight, to coast one simply has to use the eyes as a steering wheel, of sorts, the physical movement of the eyes behind eyelids while in altered state directs the direction of hmmm how to describe, the direction of awareness might fit.

It's in the eyes...
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What I find interesting is that the eye is not adapted to deal with ultraviolet light. Cataracts, retinal degeneration,etc,are damage caused especially by light in the UV portion of the spectrum. It's not just man, but other animals as well, that seem ill equipped to deal with the sun's ultraviolet light. Which leads me to wonder why no one seems to have followed up on this: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] My question here would be what caused that split in evolutionary development between these two species. And maybe important to the Saturn hypothesis, is when did this split start (and how fast can the split occur). Also do we see changes in ascorbic acid in other animals over time (maybe indicating evolution still occuring in adapting to our modern sun?). If changes to our solar system were as recent as Saturn theory suggests, maybe mice are at an advantage in adapting, since they produce more generations in a given period of time?
I guess what puzzles me the most is that with all the different eye adaptations we do see between animals, so many different species just happen to be stuck when it comes to finding a way to deal with UV? It does seem most likely that our earth in the fairly recent past, was not lit by such a UV source as our current sun. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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Filamentary My Dear Watson
May 06, 2013

Phenomena throughout the visible universe exhibit features that are twisted and “stringy”. From plume to prominence it is plasma interactions that we see.

n previous Picture of the Day articles, there have been many discussions about formations cut in stone or puffed-out in clouds of ionized gas that are not easily explained by conventional theories. Two such figures are shown at the top of the page. One is said to be a volcano erupting on the surface of Jupiter’s active moon Io. The other is a massive flaring eruption from the Sun. How do both events relate to one another when they occur in such disparate environments?

Every world in the solar system is a charged body orbiting in a plasma. There are many ways in which plasma interacts with dust or atmospheric gasses no matter how hot or cold they are. Spacecraft sent to other planets, as well as satellites orbiting our own planet, have detected auroras, lightning, tornadoes and dust devils. Volcanoes on Earth have been found to “spit lightning” from their vents. Global dust storms on Mars are shown to be fed by thousands of sky-high funnels. Farther into the Solar System remote instruments are finding radio noise, electrified comets, spokes in Saturn’s rings and many other modes of electrical activity...............
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[link to www.thunderbolts.info]

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that sounds quite healthy
think of this possibility if you will
let us say, for the point of this topic, in 1950`s onwards we went into space
in the following 60 + years discoveries were made in space that are considered irrevocably true
without thought of what these irrevocable truths may or may not mean, they are considered vital enough to be incorporated in all and anything we know
somehow

now

upon discovery of these truths , looking back through all our records of truths, they are missing. as in:
not recorded by any god, saint, or person of notable standing within our recorded history

thus what do we do

do we make it appear it was said by placing meanings to what was said in our past that we know was never imagined in our past
or
do we not

the reason we think on this topic is this

is it our intention to provide our previous history with something it never possessed
or
are we wishing to do something else

this point has meaning to our authorities and before choices are made it is thought important that the choices being made are recognized for what they are

our own choices
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you are saying "truth" to describe knowledge

knowledge was perceived within a limitation
and
methods of selection and recording were an additional limitation
and
perception of recorded knowlege is also limited

if current knowledge does not match current perception, that would be an uncomfortable attachment
one could resolve this by changing either knowledge or perception
authorities would probably find it easier to change knowledge

but
true is always true
if one does not see truth
that does not negate it
proclamation by authority
does not confirm it
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that sounds quite healthy
think of this possibility if you will
let us say, for the point of this topic, in 1950`s onwards we went into space
in the following 60 + years discoveries were made in space that are considered irrevocably true
without thought of what these irrevocable truths may or may not mean, they are considered vital enough to be incorporated in all and anything we know
somehow

now

upon discovery of these truths , looking back through all our records of truths, they are missing. as in:
not recorded by any god, saint, or person of notable standing within our recorded history

thus what do we do

do we make it appear it was said by placing meanings to what was said in our past that we know was never imagined in our past
or
do we not

the reason we think on this topic is this

is it our intention to provide our previous history with something it never possessed
or
are we wishing to do something else

this point has meaning to our authorities and before choices are made it is thought important that the choices being made are recognized for what they are

our own choices
 Quoting: aether


you are saying "truth" to describe knowledge

knowledge was perceived within a limitation
and
methods of selection and recording were an additional limitation
and
perception of recorded knowlege is also limited

if current knowledge does not match current perception, that would be an uncomfortable attachment
one could resolve this by changing either knowledge or perception
authorities would probably find it easier to change knowledge

but
true is always true
if one does not see truth
that does not negate it
proclamation by authority
does not confirm it
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well said
i agree

i will add personal thought
limitation (our) was always the same limitation throughout our recorded history
and the boundary of our limitation was always the same boundary
it exists 250 miles above our heads
when we went through that boundary our historical limitation ceased to exist in the minds of a few
access to the information the other side of our boundary is still limited to access of the few
what the few do is one of the topics of this thread
luckily for us our limitation boundary is only a geographical location and nothing else but that
and
we now know that our next limitation boundary 8 billion miles approx further on from the first is no longer a mystery to us because the information we experienced crossing our first boundary explained all we required to know beyond the next boundary before we got there and crossed it for ourselves to confirm our discoveries are true
thus we have discovered all we needed to know in our past 60 years by our own physical/practical experience to confirm forever that we know know enough to understand forever in a manner unlike any previous imaginative thought recorded of the meaning of for ever that arose before 1850 approx
thus the thoughts closet to our discoveries that we on the surface of our planet possess that closest match what we have discovered that our planet
thus ourselves
are within to experience what we are to experience within
are our imaginative thoughts of our past 160 years

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well said
i agree

i will add personal thought
limitation (our) was always the same limitation throughout our recorded history
and the boundary of our limitation was always the same boundary
it exists 250 miles above our heads
when we went through that boundary our historical limitation ceased to exist in the minds of a few
access to the information the other side of our boundary is still limited to access of the few
what the few do is one of the topics of this thread
luckily for us our limitation boundary is only a geographical location and nothing else but that
and
we now know that our next limitation boundary 8 billion miles approx further on from the first is no longer a mystery to us because the information we experienced crossing our first boundary explained all we required to know beyond the next boundary before we got there and crossed it for ourselves to confirm our discoveries are true
thus we have discovered all we needed to know in our past 60 years by our own physical/practical experience to confirm forever that we know know enough to understand forever in a manner unlike any previous imaginative thought recorded of the meaning of for ever that arose before 1850 approx
thus the thoughts closet to our discoveries that we on the surface of our planet possess that closest match what we have discovered that our planet
thus ourselves
are within to experience what we are to experience within
are our imaginative thoughts of our past 160 years
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and there is no mystery how and why this is so /z\

EEG vibrations continuously shift from state to state over the whole range of frequencies during normal brain processing in adults. However, brain frequencies in developing children display a radically different behavior. EEG vibration rates and their corresponding states evolve in incremental stages over time.

The predominant brain activity during the child’s first two years of life is delta, the lowest EEG frequency range.

Between two and six years of age, the child’s brain activity ramps up and operates primarily in the range of theta. While in the theta state, children spend much of their time mixing the imaginary world with the real world.

The predominant delta and theta activity expressed by children younger than six signifies that their brains are operating at levels below consciousness. Delta and theta brain frequencies define a brain state known as a hypnagogic trance—the same neural state that hypnotherapists use to directly download new behaviors into the subconscious minds of their clients.

In other words, the first six years of a child’s life are spent in a hypnotic trance!

A child’s perceptions of the world are directly downloaded into the subconscious during this time, without discrimination and without filters of the analytical self-conscious mind which doesn’t fully exist. Consequently, our fundamental perceptions about life and our role in it are learned without our having the capacity to choose or reject those beliefs. We were simply programmed.

The Jesuits were aware of this programmable state and proudly boasted, “Give me the child until it is seven years old and I will give you the man.” They knew the child’s trance state facilitated a direct implanting of Church dogma into the subconscious mind. Once programmed, that information would inevitably influence 95 percent of that individual’s behavior for the rest of his or her life. [link to books.google.co.uk]
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forgetting who or what provides us with information as children
we all are children once and as children we are all induced into what inducing us desires us to become
and
locality sensitive society reacts to our induced behavior for the remainder of our lives

you see the picture
it is globally the same for every living person
no exceptions

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we add to this that our generations not only live within an era of limitation boundary breakthrough
we are also living within the era of solar systems environment alteration
our new to us information explains the affect this alteration has upon each and every person in our present and each generation to become
thus it is no coincidence that what we require to adjust to our altering environment we discovered when our need arose
how this manifests into practical reality
the translation of new information into global meaning
and
the meaning of our altering environment contained within the new translation of global meaning appears generally agreed in timescale by our lawful authorities prompted mostly by the velocity of noticeable environment alternation , it seems to me
but
whatever the motive this is the direction our now globalized authorities are thinking
that is as far as we have got

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