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aether (OP)

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strange how these "master" suggest they become that which they themselves provide "proof" can never be known to become
as if being something was impossible to know
but
you know enough
to know you are
what you know
can never be known

rolleyes
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Hero with a Thousand Faces? Assumed you familiar with the concept.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25431428


no
never noticed it before you showed it

hero with a thousand faces feels like repeating processes
thus
what is the motive that prompts repetitive process
because when we discover that
we will move onto the next sequence/process
thus the process will cease to be repetitive to our sense because it will fit into where it took us. as in:
looking back it makes sense that it occurred the way it did to become noticed
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I find that interesting aether.

Because I bring up Joseph Campbell...often.

And the Hero's Journey.

hmm
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you know when i read that wiki i instantly noticed he is your same man
and i will tell now
he is impressive
and feels a lovely personality
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Faithful and Truth
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

Lotus Seed-Heart Seed:)
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I see and agree with your point Pi in that it makes it easier to identify who one is communicating with. The point I am trying to make is it's about the message not the messenger. Do the words ring true for you (at this time or perhaps a later time as ones perceptions change and what you heard or saw before now makes sense.) If you have ever been to a 12 step meeting you would see eventually it's not about the messenger but the message. The divine can speak in many ways at any time. We all can take what we need to learn at any one moment.


It's a journey too as the women here say not always a destination as the men would experience it. As one Buddha says "how enlightened is enlightened. It takes many lives."

Btw I do have more than one good reason to put a slow down on my own "journey" per se and can't be rushed through as much as I would like in some ways. Also there's a fRate train being rode it would seem.
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Which is the greater?
Validation coupled with identification

Or

Qualification coupled with verification

Does it really matter in the end? This common thread, non-material in nature. Holds value placed there in by those their in. Within those there in see what they see in light around dark shaped symbols they find the value of reciprocally. Exchangin thoughts in a meeting of the mind. Where all are one in segments of key identifiers which seperate but grouped together. Non material in structure presented sequencial slip stream seams of woven waves.

Lookin back vereifies where you came from. But doesn't show you were you are going. Ahhh the old "history repeated itself." Not really, you just identified with it to give your mind form based off a- round consistency to establish circular development. One form of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result. If your ears are ringing. Well, that would be consistant pepertual cycle.

What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

Non material or material. Is their any other?

Like the Edgar Alan People short novel. Riding sea with a drunken compadre trying to make sense of non sense.
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hmm
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Ears ringing.
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Anti-Child-Abuse Ad Aims to Help Kids Speak Out by Displaying a Message Only They Can See


A new ad campaign aimed at combating child abuse is raising awareness in the most public way it knows how: posters of abused children displayed to the masses. There is a catch, though -- only children can see the abused faces. Reaching a kid who is a victim of abuse can be difficult. Often, a child is accompanied by his or her abuser, which can make verbalizing the presence of abuse that much scarier.

The Spanish children's advocacy group, Aid to Children and Adolescents at Risk (ANAR), created the ads using lenticular printing, which allows different images to be shown on the same display, depending on the angle it is viewed from. So an adult who is taller than 4-foot-5, standing directly in front of the ad, sees a picture of a child with the message, "Sometimes, child abuse is only visible to the child suffering it."


[link to news.yahoo.com]

Vid at link.
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One thing I would suggest if not already implemented...

However, a child 4-foot-5 or shorter sees the same child but with bruises on his or her face. The message is also different:

"If somebody hurts you, phone us and we'll help you."


A child seeing said 'ad' will have to process it quite quickly. While 'walking by' if you will.

If a phone number is displayed, very few children will be able to remember and hold it in memory long enough to recall it later.

If there IS a number...it should be VERY simple. And no more than 3 numbers.

Like 9-1-1.
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Which ear?
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"we can discover nothing in our recorded history that refers to these new causes and affects in a manner that hints at them being known to the writer
no matter whom is attributed to the writing"


There's a writer; H.P.Blavatsky that talks about the past civilizations having the power of flight and a lot of the same luxuries as we do.I think it's referred to in 'Anthropogenesis' in 'The Secret Doctrine' series


If you want to check it out: [link to turtlegang.org] ..pretty sure it's in there.peace
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That is awesome on the child abuse add. Thanks Seer for sharing. :)
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That is awesome on the child abuse add. Thanks Seer for sharing. :)
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Phones 'ring' too...

:)
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Which is the greater?
Validation coupled with identification

Or

Qualification coupled with verification

Does it really matter in the end? This common thread, non-material in nature. Holds value placed there in by those their in. Within those there in see what they see in light around dark shaped symbols they find the value of reciprocally. Exchangin thoughts in a meeting of the mind. Where all are one in segments of key identifiers which seperate but grouped together. Non material in structure presented sequencial slip stream seams of woven waves.

Lookin back vereifies where you came from. But doesn't show you were you are going. Ahhh the old "history repeated itself." Not really, you just identified with it to give your mind form based off a- round consistency to establish circular development. One form of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result. If your ears are ringing. Well, that would be consistant pepertual cycle.

What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

Non material or material. Is their any other?

Like the Edgar Alan People short novel. Riding sea with a drunken compadre trying to make sense of non sense.
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Even if that is the case.....

The sentiment remains, does it not?

Why would anyone want to instill this idea in us?

And don't say 'advertising' as I couldn't give a shit about material possessions past what I need to live reasonably well.

Especially while stoned.

Just sayin'.

Yawn.... NEXT
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

Lotus Seed-Heart Seed:)
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The eyes guide the flight, to coast one simply has to use the eyes as a steering wheel, of sorts, the physical movement of the eyes behind eyelids while in altered state directs the direction of hmmm how to describe, the direction of awareness might fit.

It's in the eyes...
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What I find interesting is that the eye is not adapted to deal with ultraviolet light. Cataracts, retinal degeneration,etc,are damage caused especially by light in the UV portion of the spectrum. It's not just man, but other animals as well, that seem ill equipped to deal with the sun's ultraviolet light. Which leads me to wonder why no one seems to have followed up on this: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] My question here would be what caused that split in evolutionary development between these two species. And maybe important to the Saturn hypothesis, is when did this split start (and how fast can the split occur). Also do we see changes in ascorbic acid in other animals over time (maybe indicating evolution still occuring in adapting to our modern sun?). If changes to our solar system were as recent as Saturn theory suggests, maybe mice are at an advantage in adapting, since they produce more generations in a given period of time?
I guess what puzzles me the most is that with all the different eye adaptations we do see between animals, so many different species just happen to be stuck when it comes to finding a way to deal with UV? It does seem most likely that our earth in the fairly recent past, was not lit by such a UV source as our current sun.
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: aether


“Shil DasSarma, a microbial geneticist at the University of Mayland, found himself pondering why chlorophyll, which is the major photosynthetic pigment of vegetation, absorbs blue and red solar wavelengths while reflecting green ones since, as already noted, the Sun transmits most of its radiative energy in the green part of the visible spectrum. His eventual solution to the problem, which had long puzzled biologists, is that chlorophyll appeared [in the proposed evolutionary cycle] after another light-sensitive molecule, known as retinal, was already ensconced on early Earth. In opposition to chlorophyll, retinal absorbs green light while reflecting red and violet. Although the names we give to some colors do not mean the same to everyone, the combination of red and violet is said to result in the color purple. Retinal and chlorophyll are both found in different microbes, and the former would have lent organisms a purple hue. The outcome of this, according to DarSarma, is that the "earliest life on Earth might have been just as purple as it is green today..." [link to www.livescience.com]
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"But now they are prepared to give out to the above‐ mentioned profane even the secrets hinted at by Eliphas Levi without adequate explanation; for the latterʹs policy of veiled revelations could only lead to further superstition and misunderstanding."
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Thanks, Fred.
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lmao

Actually I'm down town at the moment
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What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

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Really good question. Brings to mind Tool and Undertow.
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What if there was no golden age? What if You were just told that to keep you longing and to establish your present circumstances as not good enough. When in fact it is. You just thought it was supposed to be different. Because you believed it was so based of your natural preference for more pleasure.

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Really good question. Brings to mind Tool and Undertow.
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked

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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
 Quoting: aether


Like the Double Slit experiment?


[link to www.youtube.com]

hmm
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In no affairs of mere prejudice, pro or con, do we deduce inferences with entire certainty even from the most simple data.
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
 Quoting: aether


It does to those whose beliefs may be altered from that information.

For others, I imagine it would depend on what the origin of life IS. For example, if we knew that we arrived from the primordial soup that had been electrified, perhaps not much would change.

If we found out that the origin of life came from another sentient species, perhaps a lot would change.

But, again, it comes down to what the initial belief structure is in how it would affect thoughts about the meaning of life.
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
 Quoting: aether


For Spinoza, as discussed in Parts Two and Three of his Ethics, affects are states of mind and body related to (but not exactly synonymous with) feelings and emotions, of which he says there are three primary kinds: pleasure or joy (laetitia), pain or sorrow (tristitia) and desire (cupiditas) or appetite
 Quoting: Wiki
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Of course the drunken compadre = the ego.

The ego is the pleasure speaker/seeker. It establishes itself at the helm through active persuit of sensation.
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Ears ringing.
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How about sudden 'hot hands'?

This happens to me quite often. Yesterday, it was quite pronounced, where for a bit it was so intense it felt like the 'heat' was pulsing out of the center of my palms.

Usually only last for a few minutes tops.
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lol
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
 Quoting: aether


Like the Double Slit experiment?


[link to www.youtube.com]

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


2008

I propose a simple alteration to the experiment, because it has become quite clear that the empirical scientist has failed to account for the apparent SOUND waves that have been present in their laboratories when they started opening slits and bouncing light off mirrors...
They failed to perform a proper exorcism and create a laboratory that was like the vacuum, they failed to recreate the vacuum that they proposed was in outer space.
With their primitive detection equipment they could not detect the luminiferous aether/plasma/dark matter/dark energy, this has become apparently true.
Chandra can and does. Newer technology often trumps older technology.
True in optics and SOUND.
I am calling bullshit on ALL those 'light' experiments, that have ignored the role of SOUND. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


lol

touchy topic

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lol
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Thought you would like that...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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i just had a thought

does an answer to the origin of life

cause affect

upon the meaning of life

as in:

are the two linked
 Quoting: aether


Like the Double Slit experiment?


[link to www.youtube.com]

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


2008

I propose a simple alteration to the experiment, because it has become quite clear that the empirical scientist has failed to account for the apparent SOUND waves that have been present in their laboratories when they started opening slits and bouncing light off mirrors...
They failed to perform a proper exorcism and create a laboratory that was like the vacuum, they failed to recreate the vacuum that they proposed was in outer space.
With their primitive detection equipment they could not detect the luminiferous aether/plasma/dark matter/dark energy, this has become apparently true.
Chandra can and does. Newer technology often trumps older technology.
True in optics and SOUND.
I am calling bullshit on ALL those 'light' experiments, that have ignored the role of SOUND.
 Quoting: observation


lol

touchy topic
 Quoting: aether


Well, the point being the 'observer' changed the 'result'.

Are photons conscious? I think they might be.

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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