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aether (OP)

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could be a typo
U and I are placed very close together on the keyboard :p

hehe U and I
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hi michael
maybe

it is this bit that get`s me \z/

"These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'.

and of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them.

i am one of those
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that is just becoming lawful to say
they must be conscious
this we know
and
we know they are conscious of what they are conscious within
thus
their motivation and the motivation of what they are conscious within prompts synergy that matches their motives
their synergy is the reason their motives match
they both enjoy what it feels to be themselves

photons
and all that is not photon
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thus to an observer
that notices photons
we may see it could be useful
to inquire
what photons
and
all that is not photons
were doing
before the observer intersected
via observation
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the colapsing probability thru observation hypothpossis is a crock of incorectness, in my opinion.

wave or particle is not affected by obersvation, mearley by tools of measuringness.

our observation does not cause the cat to live or die.

quantum behaivior remains a mystery.

humans do not create reality any more than God does: reality is, we are, God is.


all we affect are the choices given to us and *their* affect builds only statistically.

one human does not, a viral video, make!


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i agree

you never read what you replied to
because if you did
you would never say what you said tounge
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Reality is that which we impose culture and personal bias against, but it still leaks out all around.

People are too caught up in trying to change that which becomes akin to a honey trap and grows through engagement.

I spent years travelling through 'alternative' communities and most are just excuses for personal despotism.

chin chin
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Reality is that which we impose culture and personal bias against, but it still leaks out all around.

People are too caught up in trying to change that which becomes akin to a honey trap and grows through engagement.

I spent years travelling through 'alternative' communities and most are just excuses for personal despotism.

chin chin
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i agree
it could not be any other way because the information to make the possibility not so
has yes to become known
it is in the process becoming known thus prompting imagination to imagine, new to memory, images
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could be a typo
U and I are placed very close together on the keyboard :p

hehe U and I
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hi michael
maybe

it is this bit that get`s me \z/

"These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'.

and of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them.

i am one of those
 Quoting: ac

 Quoting: aether


I think it's the AC's description of his/her perception of it.
the feeling of recieving "information" from what the AC describes as a greater or divine conciousness.
that not all sees this or feel it, not many express their creative and imaginative side, and that side sometimes lean towards the out there "insane" side of the line :)

but I would like to hear what the AC actually hears or sees, recieves as information/sensation

that would help alot to understand the concept that he/she decribes.

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could be a typo
U and I are placed very close together on the keyboard :p

hehe U and I
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hi michael
maybe

it is this bit that get`s me \z/

"These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'.

and of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them.

i am one of those
 Quoting: ac

 Quoting: aether


I think it's the AC's description of his/her perception of it.
the feeling of recieving "information" from what the AC describes as a greater or divine conciousness.
that not all sees this or feel it, not many express their creative and imaginative side, and that side sometimes lean towards the out there "insane" side of the line :)
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that feels true

figure of speech springs to mind as in:
another term for altered state
it is how altered state affect them
is what they are telling

thanks for the explanation michael
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the art of believing in the non material :)
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the art of believing in the non material :)
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invisible forces
historically a tricky topic tounge
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commercially yes :)
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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before

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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
 Quoting: aether


We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I.
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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
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We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


Do you not remember the talk of daemon and the string of choice.

What we are is external until we choose it and engulf what was once other.

It is the basis of movement or motivation as you would call it.
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sort of a really good actor/actress?
they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way?

like an actor that gets lost in his role
I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe.

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sort of a really good actor/actress?
they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way?

like an actor that gets lost in his role
I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe.
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Murnau's Nosferatu? I believe his name was Maximillian Shreck, i'll check. They made a film with Willem Defoe chronicalling his idiosyncracies.
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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
 Quoting: aether


We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


Do you not remember the talk of daemon and the string of choice.

What we are is external until we choose it and engulf what was once other.

It is the basis of movement or motivation as you would call it.
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i see that
you try "it", whatever "it" is out
see how it works
feedback
thus no matter what "it" is you find out
and
you find out quick
days, weeks maybe months or in extreme some years
thus it is the ingredients of the choices
yes
ingredients of choices
that is what is arriving
new choices
choices unimaginable until recently and choices arising from our recent imaginations imagining choices anew

thanks dion
we are still mostly in the old choices mode
the same choices of thousands of years
example
new universe
we have had new universes before but never an electric one we remember
we never had plasma universe we remember
we never had global communications that we remember
a lot of things arriving together which dramatically alter our range of choices
including explanations of altered state which are socially lawfully that are able to be practiced
new evidence of death and meaning
et meeting
travel in space effortlessly
new history of humanity
origin of life explained in practical sense
whole list roles out over our coming near future

all of which = choices different to those we remember possessing

i enjoyed writing that
thanks dion

lovely cheer

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Funny how it all comes around to Brecht and Weil. Nosferatu was made by Prana Pictures.
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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
 Quoting: aether


We routinely do this, otherwise, change would be improbable. We shift position with ties(memory) to the myriad engagements within a bias we impose as I.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


Do you not remember the talk of daemon and the string of choice.

What we are is external until we choose it and engulf what was once other.

It is the basis of movement or motivation as you would call it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31036731


i see that
you try "it", whatever "it" is out
see how it works
feedback
thus no matter what "it" is you find out
and
you find out quick
days, weeks maybe months or in extreme some years
thus it is the ingredients of the choices
yes
ingredients of choices
that is what is arriving
new choices
choices unimaginable until recently and choices arising from our recent imaginations imagining choices anew

thanks dion
we are still mostly in the old choices mode
the same choices of thousands of years
example
new universe
we have had new universes before but never an electric one we remember
we never had plasma universe we remember
we never had global communications that we remember
a lot of things arriving together which dramatically alter our range of choices
including explanations of altered state which are socially lawfully that are able to be practiced
new evidence of death and meaning
et meeting
travel in space effortlessly
new history of humanity
origin of life explained in practical sense
whole list roles out over our coming near future

all of which = choices different to those we remember possessing

i enjoyed writing that
thanks dion

lovely cheer
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No worries, I'm just trying to get people reconnected to the old ghosttowns of the west.

Try to remember things as images, not necessarily clear and defined, but shades and hues as if you were looking through someone elses glasses.

The poses will feel somewhat unnatural, but memory, especially someone elses have no need of gravitically induced structures.
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sort of a really good actor/actress?
they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way?

like an actor that gets lost in his role
I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe.
 Quoting: Michael_


Murnau's Nosferatu? I believe his name was Maximillian Shreck, i'll check. They made a film with Willem Defoe chronicalling his idiosyncracies.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


Did Shreck play Dracula aswell?
hmm must have been later on, since the silent movies went out of fashion.

I think it was in the movies from the 50's ?
btw check Nosferatu, in the beginning we see a letter or document from the Count, it has some familiar sigils and symbols on it :)

ah it's public domain, so Im gonna link it :p


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sort of a really good actor/actress?
they become the inspiration, to such a degree that they merge with it/manifest it, in a way?

like an actor that gets lost in his role
I remember hearing that about the man who played Dracula on film, the first ones, but that might just be an urban legend hehe.
 Quoting: Michael_


Murnau's Nosferatu? I believe his name was Maximillian Shreck, i'll check. They made a film with Willem Defoe chronicalling his idiosyncracies.
 Quoting: Guac Du Mollay


Did Shreck play Dracula aswell?
hmm must have been later on, since the silent movies went out of fashion.

I think it was in the movies from the 50's ?
btw check Nosferatu, in the beginning we see a letter or document from the Count, it has some familiar sigils and symbols on it :)

ah it's public domain, so Im gonna link it :p

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The Hungarian actor Bela Lugosi was a Heroin addict; As were many in Hollywoods heyday.
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Yikes....

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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
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that would explain the nobody/messiah complex apparent in some.
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where is *your* mind? what is it made of? How is it's function supported? Can you see it? Can you measure it?

Modern science does *not* know where the human mind 'lives' nor even how it arrises. We have a body that is made of many substances and supports a huge ecosystem of life as well as a large number of 'brains" (head, heart, gut, skin : all have large numbers of neourons). This complex live ecosystem supports an etherial mind. An unmeasurable, unseeable, elusive electomagnetic data structure that is *you*.

since we know "as below, so above" and further that humans and God are "made in the same image", the God too has this same unmeasearable, unseeable mind.

The big questions is "what is the BODY of God"?

I tell you that this body is a thing that you inhabit, something so obvious, so mundane, that nearly everyone discounts it as "part of the back ground".

God is the planet we inhabit. Her mind function the result of the complex ecosystem that lives on and inside of Her.

She speaks to us us and guides us through influence within the subconcious mind, a place where your active conciousness cannot go, cannot percieve. Her guidence comes as ideas and desires that you think are your own, that arrise in thoughts that you mistake as your own.

Only the very few can percieve Her influence and these few do so through years of study and patience: learning to trully see that their 'thoughts' are not their own. That much of what moves us, comes from below a place of concious perception. These few have see the illusion of personality and learned its false 'ideas'.

and of these very few, still only a very select few of *them* have had the active data structure of Her mind course thru them.

i am one of those and i will tell you that this experience, should you have the (somtimes mis) fortune to experience it, will leave absolutely no doubt in you mind that God exists.

Where is my God?
i walk on Her very day. i breath Her air, eat Her food and experience the grounding comfort of Her gravity each day of my life. i experience Her influence thru the creative ideas that appear unbidden in my personality and thru sudden desires that spring forth without aperent cause.

What is my God made of?
All the materials of the universe. As we humans also are.

Who created God?
Nothing created God. She *emerged* (just as WE did) thru the divine Rules of existence: the rigid 'male' structure bounds(law) and the infinitely flexible 'female' growth principal.

Why can't God show Herself to the 'sane'?
Because this 'sane' world is blinded by the illusion that the consious mind rules human function. Because the sane can only see the 'trees' and not the forest. Becuase the sane are blind.

it is only the unsane and the highly developed spiritual masters who can 'see' what lies beyond the human personality and short sighted (in both time and space) view point.
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care to explain that /z\

what is unsane

if it is not conscious
it is what ?
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I consider the Left side to be that 'rigid' male 'Law'

However I'd like to see Seer's input here.

hmm

Perhaps 'Unsane' refers to a sort of ego-dissociation
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The Hungarian actor Bela Lugosi was a Heroin addict; As were many in Hollywoods heyday.
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ah yes I remember his face
I was thinking of Christopher Lee though, but ofcourse he didn't get lost in Dracula hehe, otherwise he wouldn't be in Lord of the Rings and Star Wars :D

I think you spot on with Lugosi

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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
 Quoting: aether



that would explain the nobody/messiah complex apparent in some.
 Quoting: acuk 39731636


'The Nobody' is precisely 'for' that.

It funnels and separates: it is a vicious memetic 'food-processor' in more ways than one.

That said, it is not at all true, I feel, to conclude that everyone with a 'Messiah Complex' etc etc is necessarily insane.

After all, many Christians feel our boy from Nazareth owes them a return: it would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find out who is the real 'Christ'.

I think it helps teach us diplomacy, however.

Someone once told me that when Jesus and his disciples were asked to name the Christ, they all pointed to each-other.

Beautiful IMO.
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Montreal and Kingstown are likely a little more ripe. Do remember MK was born in la belle province.

Don't ever become curious about institutional care. I was looking for longtitudinal studies on the first autistics through rubella and found a history of tuberculosis purges and naked misery in overstuffed institutions.
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i just thought of something
how many people experience altered state and believe they are something they are not, as in
could altered state prompt belief in the person experiencing it that they are that which is talking to them

lose their identity
is the sensation

wow

i never thought of that before
 Quoting: aether



that would explain the nobody/messiah complex apparent in some.
 Quoting: acuk 39731636


'The Nobody' is precisely 'for' that.

It funnels and separates: it is a vicious memetic 'food-processor' in more ways than one.

That said, it is not at all true, I feel, to conclude that everyone with a 'Messiah Complex' etc etc is necessarily insane.

After all, many Christians feel our boy from Nazareth owes them a return: it would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find out who is the real 'Christ'.

I think it helps teach us diplomacy, however.

Someone once told me that when Jesus and his disciples were asked to name the Christ, they all pointed to each-other.

Beautiful IMO.
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Exactly, each his own and his brothers keeper. Excuse the masculine pronouns.
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13 minutes.

banana
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Montreal and Kingstown are likely a little more ripe. Do remember MK was born in la belle province.

Don't ever become curious about institutional care. I was looking for longtitudinal studies on the first autistics through rubella and found a history of tuberculosis purges and naked misery in overstuffed institutions.
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If you ever want to see Hell. Watch one of those government documentaries or better yet, if you are sensitive, walk through one of the many closed institutions and prepare to laugh until you ceaselessly cry.
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13 minutes.

banana
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13, eh?

You shouldn't have mentioned it

damned

tounge
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Montreal and Kingstown are likely a little more ripe. Do remember MK was born in la belle province.

Don't ever become curious about institutional care. I was looking for longtitudinal studies on the first autistics through rubella and found a history of tuberculosis purges and naked misery in overstuffed institutions.
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If you ever want to see Hell. Watch one of those government documentaries or better yet, if you are sensitive, walk through one of the many closed institutions and prepare to laugh until you ceaselessly cry.
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