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nobody User ID: 1201285 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this one,, was particually interested by see7's time travel eflusion,, when an ink dot resides within a circle,, both,, are a realised mental construction based within a perception,, sences are linear derived,, too cope within this reality,, and yet,, when we dream,, these restraints are removed,, all is now,, and always is,, will be,, as everything,, has already happened,, too time travel,, we need only a map of our potentional perception belief,, we percieve by choice indeed,, as one seeds the other,, much love,, |
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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cheers indeed,, aether,, Quoting: nobody 1201285 this one,, was particually interested by see7's time travel eflusion,, when an ink dot resides within a circle,, both,, are a realised mental construction based within a perception,, sences are linear derived,, too cope within this reality,, and yet,, when we dream,, these restraints are removed,, all is now,, and always is,, will be,, as everything,, has already happened,, too time travel,, we need only a map of our potentional perception belief,, we percieve by choice indeed,, as one seeds the other,, much love,, i liked the bit where our universe is precognitive thus what was believed occurred before became our ability to sense our environments precognitive nature thus it was never all has occurred before it was always all is seen before thus it materializes only the once never twice or more as was believed makes perfect sense when you see it thus our precognition senses , telepathy etc, mimic our environments which again makes sense |
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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed,, Quoting: nobody 1201285 and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,, reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,, much love,, nicely said that is lovey and spot on thus we in concert with our universe see what is to be it possess scale thus we see what is for us to be within all that it sees to be but the how and why we do becomes simplicity Last Edited by aether on 05/17/2013 09:04 PM |
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aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed,, Quoting: nobody 1201285 and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,, reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,, much love,, nicely said that is lovey and spot on thus we in concert with our universe see what is to be it possess scale thus we see what is for us to be within all that it sees to be but the how and why we do becomes simplicity true because the wonderful realization is we do possess a future which we share within our universe once we see because when we do see it is impossible for us not to see the same direction as that we do not see because we all look in the same direction the future this we become closer and closer in what we see to what our universe of scale sees there is nothing else for us to see when we see other than it`s precognition vision Last Edited by aether on 05/17/2013 09:17 PM |
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Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/17/2013 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | k, no ringing on 46 then I thought about this on the ride the home. 11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino. 46=23*2. That is all I have for '46' at this time. I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation. As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering. Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met. So what is the point? Does one cease expectation all together? Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | k, no ringing on 46 then I thought about this on the ride the home. 11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino. 46=23*2. That is all I have for '46' at this time. I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation. As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering. Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met. So what is the point? Does one cease expectation all together? Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation? you find out by finding out your example biases towards all desire never met by satisfaction what do you say when you possess a desire which becomes more satisfying than the desire that prompted it because that occurs to likely more often the more you find out and move on with what finding out told you feedback it is the point of it it is not faith based |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/17/2013 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed,, Quoting: nobody 1201285 and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,, reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,, much love,, nicely said that is lovey and spot on thus we in concert with our universe see what is to be it possess scale thus we see what is for us to be within all that it sees to be but the how and why we do becomes simplicity I've often considered this from an opposing angle: If we are 'forced' into simplicity, what emotions do we experience, and how does it affect us? I have heard people say that once we adapt to the simplicity, we are both comfortable and unwilling to leave it; that is, unable to re-aquire complexity. I do not agree with that point of view, however. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18040520 Canada 05/17/2013 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he/she/it/source/great spaghetti monster what's the diff? Truth is Truth And yet nothing is true and everything allowed. both are a matter of perception and the relation to change. The diff is the difference. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/17/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought about this on the ride the home. 11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino. 46=23*2. That is all I have for '46' at this time. I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation. As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering. Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met. So what is the point? Does one cease expectation all together? Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation? you find out by finding out your example biases towards all desire never met by satisfaction what do you say when you possess a desire which becomes more satisfying than the desire that prompted it because that occurs to likely more often the more you find out and move on with what finding out told you feedback it is the point of it it is not faith based When I speak of expectation I am also speaking of projection. Something in the future. It can be hours, days, months, or years. ... I am not sure I have ever had a 'desire' that turned out better than I imagined it. The Beach house turn out better than I could have imagined... only acquiring said after years of sacrifice in the Real Estate market, which started in our mid twenties. But then I did not foresee a $800,000 house being dropped to $350,000. Another family had purchase the house at auction, for $500,000 just months previous. Then the housing Market collapsed and they sold it for a loss. I saw it for sale the same day, and within 48hrs we had placed a bid. It was between 3 bids. And we won it. So in this sense, I did not 'desire' said, due to never believing it could happen in the first place. Not like that. So that was a surprise. A pleasant one. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18040520 Canada 05/17/2013 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | k, no ringing on 46 then I thought about this on the ride the home. 11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino. 46=23*2. That is all I have for '46' at this time. I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation. As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering. Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met. So what is the point? Does one cease expectation all together? Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation? Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. |
aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've often considered this from an opposing angle: If we are 'forced' into simplicity, what emotions do we experience, and how does it affect us? I have heard people say that once we adapt to the simplicity, we are both comfortable and unwilling to leave it; that is, unable to re-aquire complexity. I do not agree with that point of view, however. the simplicity of complexity never diminishes complexity it becomes simple to see/be complex |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/17/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought about this on the ride the home. 11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino. 46=23*2. That is all I have for '46' at this time. I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation. As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering. Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met. So what is the point? Does one cease expectation all together? Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation? Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/17/2013 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've often considered this from an opposing angle: If we are 'forced' into simplicity, what emotions do we experience, and how does it affect us? I have heard people say that once we adapt to the simplicity, we are both comfortable and unwilling to leave it; that is, unable to re-aquire complexity. I do not agree with that point of view, however. the simplicity of complexity never diminishes complexity it becomes simple to see/be complex |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/17/2013 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520 Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? Grudgingly. At least within the mind. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/17/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520 Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? Grudgingly. At least within the mind. Nah. I hold out my hope. I'm not that old. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18040520 Canada 05/17/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought about this on the ride the home. 11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino. 46=23*2. That is all I have for '46' at this time. I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation. As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering. Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met. So what is the point? Does one cease expectation all together? Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation? Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? I had impeccable luck for years until I started to analyze whether I deserved it or not. After a time of seemingly endless failing I decided to just ride happily along while intuiting that if one listened to ones 'gut' thinking was optional lest one wished to experience the misgivings of the tightrope. |
Azeratel Axo User ID: 37789886 Canada 05/17/2013 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520 Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? Grudgingly. At least within the mind. Nah. I hold out my hope. I'm not that old. :) .... I stand by my original statement. |
aether (OP) User ID: 38278041 United Kingdom 05/17/2013 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I speak of expectation I am also speaking of projection. Something in the future. It can be hours, days, months, or years. ... I am not sure I have ever had a 'desire' that turned out better than I imagined it. The Beach house turn out better than I could have imagined... only acquiring said after years of sacrifice in the Real Estate market, which started in our mid twenties. But then I did not foresee a $800,000 house being dropped to $350,000. Another family had purchase the house at auction, for $500,000 just months previous. Then the housing Market collapsed and they sold it for a loss. I saw it for sale the same day, and within 48hrs we had placed a bid. It was between 3 bids. And we won it. So in this sense, I did not 'desire' said, due to never believing it could happen in the first place. Not like that. So that was a surprise. A pleasant one. :) good point my personal experience is within this environment abilities we know we possess do to experience as we know they could thus we are altering our environment generally so they do a thread topic in the meantime i find our environments projections are the ones that occur more easily thus i incorporate myself within those and as far as possible express my personal desires/projections within the environmental projections i involve myself within this takes longer linear time but does provide substantial spiritual comfort/satisfaction throughout whilst naturally encouraging an overview of expanding possibilities for oneself within environmental emotional experience beyond death and beyond the boundaries of this location thus the longer term gains experience worthy of the on occasions disappointing personal ambitions which because of environmental conditions will inevitable occur to people like ourselves whom express our lives in non traditional manner Last Edited by aether on 05/17/2013 10:23 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18040520 Canada 05/17/2013 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? Grudgingly. At least within the mind. Nah. I hold out my hope. I'm not that old. :) .... I stand by my original statement. Themind must reconcile with the material to fling illusion and delusion aside. Read the above about suffering |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 05/17/2013 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520 Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings. Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes. I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? I had impeccable luck for years until I started to analyze whether I deserved it or not. After a time of seemingly endless failing I decided to just ride happily along while intuiting that if one listened to ones 'gut' thinking was optional lest one wished to experience the misgivings of the tightrope. Yes. I have become very much like that over the last year or so. Go where the wind blows me and trust that everything is gonna be okay. Because in the 'end' it often is, and if it isn't, it isn't the 'End'. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18040520 Canada 05/17/2013 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 I agree. What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else? How does one reconcile that? Grudgingly. At least within the mind. Nah. I hold out my hope. I'm not that old. :) .... I stand by my original statement. Themind must reconcile with the material to fling illusion and delusion aside. Read the above about suffering |