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cheers indeed,, aether,,


this one,, was particually interested by see7's time travel eflusion,,

when an ink dot resides within a circle,, both,, are a realised mental construction based within a perception,,


sences are linear derived,, too cope within this reality,,


and yet,, when we dream,, these restraints are removed,,


all is now,, and always is,, will be,,


as everything,, has already happened,,


too time travel,, we need only a map of our potentional perception belief,,



we percieve by choice indeed,,

as one seeds the other,,




much love,,
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what do the x-markers think of this?

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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a "he" story
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he/she/it/source/great spaghetti monster
what's the diff?

Truth is Truth
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what do the x-markers think of this?

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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a "he" story
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he/she/it/source/great spaghetti monster
what's the diff?

Truth is Truth
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likely true tounge
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cheers indeed,, aether,,


this one,, was particually interested by see7's time travel eflusion,,

when an ink dot resides within a circle,, both,, are a realised mental construction based within a perception,,


sences are linear derived,, too cope within this reality,,


and yet,, when we dream,, these restraints are removed,,


all is now,, and always is,, will be,,


as everything,, has already happened,,


too time travel,, we need only a map of our potentional perception belief,,



we percieve by choice indeed,,

as one seeds the other,,




much love,,
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i liked the bit where our universe is precognitive
thus what was believed occurred before
became our ability to sense our environments precognitive nature
thus it was never all has occurred before
it was always all is seen before
thus it materializes only the once
never twice or more
as was believed

makes perfect sense when you see it
thus our precognition senses , telepathy etc, mimic our environments
which again makes sense
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agreed,,

and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,,

reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,,




much love,,
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agreed,,

and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,,

reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,,




much love,,
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nicely said

that is lovey and spot on
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agreed,,

and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,,

reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,,




much love,,
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nicely said

that is lovey and spot on
 Quoting: aether


thus we in concert with our universe see what is to be
it possess scale
thus we see what is for us to be within all that it sees to be
but the how and why
we do
becomes simplicity

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point of view/perspective,,

indeed,,

much love,,
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agreed,,

and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,,

reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,,




much love,,
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nicely said

that is lovey and spot on
 Quoting: aether


thus we in concert with our universe see what is to be
it possess scale
thus we see what is for us to be within all that it sees to be
but the how and why
we do
becomes simplicity
 Quoting: aether


point of view/perspective,,

indeed,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 1201285


true
because the wonderful realization is
we do possess a future which we share within our universe
once we see
because when we do see
it is impossible for us not to see the same direction as that we do not see because we all look in the same direction
the future
this we become closer and closer in what we see to what our universe of scale sees
there is nothing else for us to see
when we see
other than
it`s precognition vision

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thankyou aether,,

your mind is beautiful,,

meditation time,,


nn all,,

much love,,
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thankyou aether,,

your mind is beautiful,,

meditation time,,


nn all,,

much love,,
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nn cheer
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Good evening everyone

flower
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Good evening everyone

flower
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good evening
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Dominant dominion


Do the numbers 23 46 17 11 seem familiar?
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Are you asking me?

3 of the 4 do. But for personal reasons I assume.
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k, no ringing on 46 then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I thought about this on the ride the home.

11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino.


46=23*2.

That is all I have for '46' at this time.



I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation.

As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering.

Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met.


So what is the point?

Does one cease expectation all together?

Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation?

hmm
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Dominant dominion


Do the numbers 23 46 17 11 seem familiar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


Are you asking me?

3 of the 4 do. But for personal reasons I assume.
 Quoting: Seer777


k, no ringing on 46 then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I thought about this on the ride the home.

11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino.


46=23*2.

That is all I have for '46' at this time.



I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation.

As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering.

Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met.


So what is the point?

Does one cease expectation all together?

Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation?


hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


you find out
by finding out
your example biases towards all desire never met by satisfaction
what do you say when you possess a desire which becomes more satisfying than the desire that prompted it
because that occurs to
likely more often
the more you find out and move on with what finding out told you
feedback
it is the point of it
it is not faith based
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agreed,,

and yet,, that which is over complicated,, is often only ever a latter precurser,,

reminisent within hindsight,, towards the next plausable acceptable simplicity,,




much love,,
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nicely said

that is lovey and spot on
 Quoting: aether


thus we in concert with our universe see what is to be
it possess scale
thus we see what is for us to be within all that it sees to be
but the how and why
we do
becomes simplicity
 Quoting: aether


I've often considered this from an opposing angle:

If we are 'forced' into simplicity, what emotions do we experience, and how does it affect us?

I have heard people say that once we adapt to the simplicity, we are both comfortable and unwilling to leave it; that is, unable to re-aquire complexity.

I do not agree with that point of view, however.
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what do the x-markers think of this?

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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a "he" story
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he/she/it/source/great spaghetti monster
what's the diff?

Truth is Truth
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And yet nothing is true and everything allowed.

both are a matter of perception and the relation to change.

The diff is the difference.
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Are you asking me?

3 of the 4 do. But for personal reasons I assume.
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k, no ringing on 46 then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I thought about this on the ride the home.

11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino.


46=23*2.

That is all I have for '46' at this time.



I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation.

As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering.

Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met.


So what is the point?

Does one cease expectation all together?

Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation?


hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


you find out
by finding out
your example biases towards all desire never met by satisfaction
what do you say when you possess a desire which becomes more satisfying than the desire that prompted it
because that occurs to
likely more often

the more you find out and move on with what finding out told you
feedback
it is the point of it
it is not faith based
 Quoting: aether


When I speak of expectation I am also speaking of projection. Something in the future. It can be hours, days, months, or years.

...

I am not sure I have ever had a 'desire' that turned out better than I imagined it.

hmm



The Beach house turn out better than I could have imagined...
only acquiring said after years of sacrifice in the Real Estate market, which started in our mid twenties.

But then I did not foresee a $800,000 house being dropped to $350,000. Another family had purchase the house at auction, for $500,000 just months previous. Then the housing Market collapsed and they sold it for a loss. I saw it for sale the same day, and within 48hrs we had placed a bid.

It was between 3 bids.

And we won it.


So in this sense, I did not 'desire' said, due to never believing it could happen in the first place.

Not like that.

So that was a surprise.

A pleasant one.

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Dominant dominion


Do the numbers 23 46 17 11 seem familiar?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


Are you asking me?

3 of the 4 do. But for personal reasons I assume.
 Quoting: Seer777


k, no ringing on 46 then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I thought about this on the ride the home.

11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino.


46=23*2.

That is all I have for '46' at this time.



I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation.

As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering.

Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met.


So what is the point?

Does one cease expectation all together?

Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
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I've often considered this from an opposing angle:

If we are 'forced' into simplicity, what emotions do we experience, and how does it affect us?

I have heard people say that once we adapt to the simplicity, we are both comfortable and unwilling to leave it; that is, unable to re-aquire complexity.

I do not agree with that point of view, however.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


the simplicity of complexity never diminishes complexity
it becomes simple to see/be complex
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Are you asking me?

3 of the 4 do. But for personal reasons I assume.
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k, no ringing on 46 then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I thought about this on the ride the home.

11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino.


46=23*2.

That is all I have for '46' at this time.



I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation.

As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering.

Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met.


So what is the point?

Does one cease expectation all together?

Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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I've often considered this from an opposing angle:

If we are 'forced' into simplicity, what emotions do we experience, and how does it affect us?

I have heard people say that once we adapt to the simplicity, we are both comfortable and unwilling to leave it; that is, unable to re-aquire complexity.

I do not agree with that point of view, however.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


the simplicity of complexity never diminishes complexity
it becomes simple to see/be complex

 Quoting: aether


cheers
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Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


Grudgingly.

At least within the mind.
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Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


Grudgingly.

At least within the mind.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Nah.

I hold out my hope.


I'm not that old.

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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k, no ringing on 46 then
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I thought about this on the ride the home.

11, 17, 23 all are primes. They are also 3 numbers I always recommended to another to utilize, when playing Roulette the few time I have been forced into a casino.


46=23*2.

That is all I have for '46' at this time.



I spent much of the drive considering Desire and Expectation.

As they go hand in hand...as one desires then expects. When the expectation is not met, the desire is unfulfilled and causes suffering.

Suffering, which is often Self imposed and which often has little bearing in truth to begin with. Instead, a manifestation of what one 'would like to have happen' based on information one has available to them at the time and forms a fantasy that can be both unsustainable and unlikely... Often leading to hostility or sadness when not met.


So what is the point?

Does one cease expectation all together?

Is this a form a hopelessness or instead a more stoic way to approach life without the pitfalls of falling in mood to unmet expectation?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


I had impeccable luck for years until I started to analyze whether I deserved it or not.

After a time of seemingly endless failing I decided to just ride happily along while intuiting that if one listened to ones 'gut' thinking was optional lest one wished to experience the misgivings of the tightrope.
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Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


Grudgingly.

At least within the mind.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Nah.

I hold out my hope.


I'm not that old.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


....

I stand by my original statement. huffy

tounge
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When I speak of expectation I am also speaking of projection. Something in the future. It can be hours, days, months, or years.

...

I am not sure I have ever had a 'desire' that turned out better than I imagined it.

hmm



The Beach house turn out better than I could have imagined...
only acquiring said after years of sacrifice in the Real Estate market, which started in our mid twenties.

But then I did not foresee a $800,000 house being dropped to $350,000. Another family had purchase the house at auction, for $500,000 just months previous. Then the housing Market collapsed and they sold it for a loss. I saw it for sale the same day, and within 48hrs we had placed a bid.

It was between 3 bids.

And we won it.


So in this sense, I did not 'desire' said, due to never believing it could happen in the first place.

Not like that.

So that was a surprise.

A pleasant one.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


good point
my personal experience is within this environment abilities we know we possess do to experience as we know they could thus we are altering our environment generally so they do
a thread topic
in the meantime i find our environments projections are the ones that occur more easily thus i incorporate myself within those and as far as possible express my personal desires/projections within the environmental projections i involve myself within
this takes longer linear time but does provide substantial spiritual comfort/satisfaction throughout whilst naturally encouraging an overview of expanding possibilities for oneself within environmental emotional experience beyond death and beyond the boundaries of this location
thus the longer term gains experience worthy of the on occasions disappointing personal ambitions which because of environmental conditions will inevitable occur to people like ourselves whom express our lives in non traditional manner

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I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


Grudgingly.

At least within the mind.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Nah.

I hold out my hope.


I'm not that old.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


....

I stand by my original statement. huffy

tounge
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Themind must reconcile with the material to fling illusion and delusion aside. Read the above about suffering
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Suffering is imposed by the inability to compose the reality of ones wants. Does it stem from inability or misjudgement or misperception of ones inability to engage fruitfully or perhaps denial of capacity.

Most importantly we come to know ourselves through our failings.

Survival reflexes are often the most surprising outcomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


I had impeccable luck for years until I started to analyze whether I deserved it or not.

After a time of seemingly endless failing I decided to just ride happily along while intuiting that if one listened to ones 'gut'
thinking was optional lest one wished to experience the misgivings of the tightrope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040520


Yes.

I have become very much like that over the last year or so. Go where the wind blows me and trust that everything is gonna be okay.

Because in the 'end' it often is, and if it isn't, it isn't the 'End'.

:)
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I agree.


What if the only thing one 'wants' comes easily and often accidentally, for almost everybody else?

How does one reconcile that?
 Quoting: Seer777


Grudgingly.

At least within the mind.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Nah.

I hold out my hope.


I'm not that old.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


....

I stand by my original statement. huffy

tounge
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Themind must reconcile with the material to fling illusion and delusion aside. Read the above about suffering





GLP