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Belief boundary


 Quoting: aether



hmm

What pushes back against Belief?


If belief for instance were a star or a spark which lights up once entertained...

Pops into existence

sirius A


Once housed, it remains in perpetual evolving motion, moving with and against that with proceeds it. Growing or shrinking, depending on how one chooses to nurture it.


Belief is a skill. It takes practice and everyone practices belief of some form...


A common one being with what occurs after death.

Everyone holds their own personal interpretation of said, and it changes as new stimuli is incorporated or rejected.

Even if you believe No-thing happens...that is still a belief you feed.


When we hear anothers words we resonate with, that is due to it harmonizing with your personal Truths.

I found those two words together to be quite interesting aether although I know what context you were utilizing it in, I took it a bit further.

tounge









Man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions.


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i feel better now, that is clever tounge
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are you out of doctors yet
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.....nope. ....

grumpy2
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


rofl

That is the grouchiest smilie ever.

Have you been seen yet?
 Quoting: Seer777


Well it is 'grumpy 2'

tounge

No I have not.... I keep getting bumped back I guess

1dunno1
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.... does home-made lemonade count?

tounge

I suppose I could try it without sugar.... I have been eating OK however
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are you out of doctors yet
 Quoting: aether


.....nope. ....

grumpy2
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


tell the receptionist to tell the doc there is an audience waiting to hear the doctors wisdom

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does anyone else have problems with google predictive writing/spelling 1dunno1

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which tells us our ancestors cause our formation in our present because they weaved into gaia`s non material fields the complexity of design which does respond to the matching complexity of environment it is designed to do so within

thus our ancestors in our america`s correctly knowing the end times location (time) as in : mayan calendar showing environment alteration becomes visible following 2012 12. 21
what they have done is weaved the non material architecture into gaia`s fields that are a synergistic match to the conditions our environment becomes thus we form our frame of minds within/around the synergistic designs our ancestors placed with the fields for us to do so

thus "all become shaman" begins to form sense
 Quoting: aether


so right down the "line" through linear time there will always be those among us whom follow the symbol and sign because their frame of mind is prompted to do so
and
dependent upon the environment on gaia their following the symbol and sign in the manner they naturally do they will impress others within our environment pro rata to environmental conditions at the time

it is like humanity designs for it`self (self organizes) the designs for humans among humans to notice that which other humans do not
it is not a bloodline

it is a safety line for the benefit of all
or
at minimum the continuances of human kind
oh
for the continence of humankind
is the sign tounge
 Quoting: aether


seer do you remember the circles within circles like radio waves radiating ancient engravings/paintings in the caves of cuba
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that petroglyph is in cuba
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:)

Reminds me of tree rings.

Perhaps it was a way to chronicle the passage of years.


TimeKey
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tree rings are the visible sign measurement of radiating (growing) from the inside outwards
like all things do
if you were going to record linear time why record it radiating from the inside outwards

the radiating inside out was in the mind and something in their environment prompted them to record something radiating from the inside outwards

i`m floating around signal from a transmitter
or visible vortical (circular) something going outwards

would transmitting structures shown visible signs of transmission in our environment?



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that petroglyph is in cuba
 Quoting: aether


:)

Reminds me of tree rings.

Perhaps it was a way to chronicle the passage of years.


TimeKey
 Quoting: Seer777


Could be...or perhaps something they saw 1dunno1

hf
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hugs
 Quoting: aether
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are you out of doctors yet
 Quoting: aether


.....nope. ....

grumpy2
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


rofl

That is the grouchiest smilie ever.

Have you been seen yet?
 Quoting: Seer777


Well it is 'grumpy 2'

tounge

No I have not.... I keep getting bumped back I guess

1dunno1
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Well at least you have your phone to keep you occupied.

Staring at what I can only imagine is on TV right now, could only compound your stomach issues I imagine.

I try to keep myself shielded from what is occurring in the world. And by keeping the TV off, that is rather easy.

Even Yahoo seems to censor it for me. Maybe due to heuristics and me never clicking on those stories.

hmm
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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...


.....nope. ....

grumpy2
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


rofl

That is the grouchiest smilie ever.

Have you been seen yet?
 Quoting: Seer777


Well it is 'grumpy 2'

tounge

No I have not.... I keep getting bumped back I guess

1dunno1
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Well at least you have your phone to keep you occupied.

Staring at what I can only imagine is on TV right now, could only compound your stomach issues I imagine.

I try to keep myself shielded from what is occurring in the world. And by keeping the TV off, that is rather easy.

Even Yahoo seems to censor it for me. Maybe due to heuristics and me never clicking on those stories.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


yes i have not watched tv for maybe 8 or more years or opened a newspaper
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that petroglyph is in cuba
 Quoting: aether


:)

Reminds me of tree rings.

Perhaps it was a way to chronicle the passage of years.


TimeKey
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: aether


Maybe it's the Aethyrs...

vortex
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i thought so
why do the aethyrs link
origin of information
yes
locational

Whoa...

aether...check out the second photo...

[link to www.kondor.de]

The thirty Æthyrs are often arranged like an onion's skin, as you can see in Schueler's books, in Geoffrey James' book or in the original manuscripts of John Dee. The innermost Æthyr is TEX which is nearest to our physical plane.

In my shamanic journeys I discovered that there are many lower and upper worlds, connected with a kind of axis (some would describe this axis as world-tree). If you fly long and fast enough down or up this axis it begins to bend itself and soon become a ring.




...


:)

Reminds me of tree rings.


Perhaps it was a way to chronicle the passage of years.

 Quoting: Seer777



hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


whoa

clever you!
that feels much closer to what we were detecting rockon
 Quoting: aether


Enochian magic

The two pillars of modern Enochian Magick, as outlined in Liber Chanokh are the Elemental Watchtowers (including the Tablet of Union) and the "World" of the 30 Aethyrs. The Aethyrs are the "heavens" or Aires of the system. Starting with the 30th Aethyr and working to the first, the magician explores only as far as his level of initiation will permit

The Enochian 'map' of the universe is depicted by Dee as a square (made up of the 4 Elemental Tablets/Watchtowers incoporating the Tablet of Union (Spirit)), surrounded by 30 concentric circles (the 30 Aethyrs or Airs). The 30 Aethyrs are numbered from 30 (TEX, the lowest and consequently the closest to the Watchtowers) to 1 (LIL, the highest, representing the Supreme Attainment). In a similar way to the methods used by magicians to scry upon the Qabalistic Tree of Life, which involves travelling astrally to each pathway and Sephira, magicians working the Enochian system record their impressions and visions within each of the successive Enochian Aethyrs.

Aleister Crowley, who worked with, and wrote about, Enochian magic extensively, has contributed much to its comparatively widespread use today. Crowley published the Golden Dawn Enochian material as "A Brief Abstract of the Symbolic Representation of the Universe Derived by Doctor John Dee Through the Skrying of Sir Edward Kelly." (Initially published in Crowley's Journal The Equinox Nos VII and VIII, this work was subsequently renamed Liber LXXXIV vel Chanokh, or The Book of Enoch - Chanokh being an older Hebrew form of the name Enoch. Crowley numbered the book as 84 since that number is the Qabalistic numeration for Chanokh. (In some printings the number 89 is mistakenly assigned to the book).
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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that petroglyph is in cuba
 Quoting: aether


:)

Reminds me of tree rings.

Perhaps it was a way to chronicle the passage of years.


TimeKey
 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: aether


Maybe it's the Aethyrs...

vortex
 Quoting: Seer777


lol
okay miss superluminal
it is because of the aethyrs
thus we now have the line from here to there in linear time
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lol
okay miss superluminal
it is because of the aethyrs
thus we now have the line from here to there in linear time
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thus we can rightfully place the aethyrs here:

which tells us our ancestors cause our formation in our present because they weaved into gaia`s non material fields the complexity of design which does respond to the matching complexity of environment it is designed to do so within

thus our ancestors in our america`s correctly knowing the end times location (time) as in : mayan calendar showing environment alteration becomes visible following 2012 12. 21
what they have done is weaved the non material architecture into gaia`s fields that are a synergistic match to the conditions our environment becomes thus we form our frame of minds within/around the synergistic designs our ancestors placed with the fields for us to do so

thus "all become shaman" begins to form sense
 Quoting: aether


so right down the "line" through linear time there will always be those among us whom follow the symbol and sign because their frame of mind is prompted to do so
and
dependent upon the environment on gaia their following the symbol and sign in the manner they naturally do they will impress others within our environment pro rata to environmental conditions at the time

it is like humanity designs for it`self (self organizes) the designs for humans among humans to notice that which other humans do not
it is not a bloodline

it is a safety line for the benefit of all
or
at minimum the continuances of human kind
oh
for the continence of humankind
is the sign tounge
 Quoting: aether


seer do you remember the circles within circles like radio waves radiating ancient engravings/paintings in the caves of cuba
 Quoting: aether
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the Nazca lines

Peratt notes that the "Nazca Lines," lines of paths of cleared pebbles running in straight lines for miles in the high plains of Peru (made by removing pebbles to reveal the lighter colored ground), can also be recognized as images of the same north-south lines seen in the sky. Surface lines like these occur at a number of other locations in the Americas. By means of an illustration, Peratt shows that only a few lines would have been seen overhead in Peru. Thus the four streaks made by the opossum probably represent the correct number seen in the sky. [note 8]

The Peratt column may have lasted hundreds of years or more. It completely fascinated and confounded humans, who for these reasons needed to draw representations in areas where the far south plasmoid was visible -- mostly high up on mountain cliffs with a southern view, but also on seashore cliffs. But nothing came of the Peratt Column. Petroglyphs continued to be carved and images based on what was seen may have recurred for thousands of years, but the south column did nothing more during all of its existence than brilliantly light up the skies and change shapes. Only a curious saying, based on the events of the remote past, remained current among the Maya, "Possum is making streaks
 Quoting: los alamos


peratt was until he retired recently los alamos and they are dating the spider to at least 4000 bc thus we may say aethyrs is at least 6000 yrs back
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the Nazca lines

Peratt notes that the "Nazca Lines," lines of paths of cleared pebbles running in straight lines for miles in the high plains of Peru (made by removing pebbles to reveal the lighter colored ground), can also be recognized as images of the same north-south lines seen in the sky. Surface lines like these occur at a number of other locations in the Americas. By means of an illustration, Peratt shows that only a few lines would have been seen overhead in Peru. Thus the four streaks made by the opossum probably represent the correct number seen in the sky. [note 8]

The Peratt column may have lasted hundreds of years or more. It completely fascinated and confounded humans, who for these reasons needed to draw representations in areas where the far south plasmoid was visible -- mostly high up on mountain cliffs with a southern view, but also on seashore cliffs. But nothing came of the Peratt Column. Petroglyphs continued to be carved and images based on what was seen may have recurred for thousands of years, but the south column did nothing more during all of its existence than brilliantly light up the skies and change shapes. Only a curious saying, based on the events of the remote past, remained current among the Maya, "Possum is making streaks
 Quoting: los alamos


peratt was until he retired recently los alamos and they are dating the spider to at least 4000 bc thus we may say aethyrs is at least 6000 yrs back
 Quoting: aether


Was the spider a shaman's out-of-body test?
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the Nazca lines

Peratt notes that the "Nazca Lines," lines of paths of cleared pebbles running in straight lines for miles in the high plains of Peru (made by removing pebbles to reveal the lighter colored ground), can also be recognized as images of the same north-south lines seen in the sky. Surface lines like these occur at a number of other locations in the Americas. By means of an illustration, Peratt shows that only a few lines would have been seen overhead in Peru. Thus the four streaks made by the opossum probably represent the correct number seen in the sky. [note 8]

The Peratt column may have lasted hundreds of years or more. It completely fascinated and confounded humans, who for these reasons needed to draw representations in areas where the far south plasmoid was visible -- mostly high up on mountain cliffs with a southern view, but also on seashore cliffs. But nothing came of the Peratt Column. Petroglyphs continued to be carved and images based on what was seen may have recurred for thousands of years, but the south column did nothing more during all of its existence than brilliantly light up the skies and change shapes. Only a curious saying, based on the events of the remote past, remained current among the Maya, "Possum is making streaks
 Quoting: los alamos


peratt was until he retired recently los alamos and they are dating the spider to at least 4000 bc thus we may say aethyrs is at least 6000 yrs back
 Quoting: aether


Was the spider a shaman's out-of-body test?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


sort of
remember environments , approx say 6000 years ago we have a huge plasmoid at gaia`s south pole (peratts column) thus we have a highly charged gaia atmosphere
we have "shaman" whom are used to the higher charged atmosphere thus used to the huge altered state/pinch effect/logos of their personality
they utilize our universes precognition and distant feeling/remote sense forward until the touch an environment in gaia`s precognitive future that prompts them to "see"
that environment was 12.21.2012 in linear time
at that moment the shaman feel/see what is to be to the point of being able to place symbol and sign to become noticed by those they feel/see will notice in 12.21.2012
what the information is within the symbol and sign is between them and what/who they see because at touching point the empathy is with what they touch/see and themselves thus the shaman know what symbol a sign to place because they "know" by empathy the symbol and sign that will become noticed and the information those whom they have the empathy link with will require to complete the motive of the information within the empathy link

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remembering:

What was much more important was to control the path of the Sun, as a sign that the current creation of the world was being maintained by the shamans, by the continued use of the Tzolkin calendar, and by the use of the proper location of ceremonial centers. In a fashion typical of well-documented later Mesoamerican philosophical thinking, mankind was responsible for this, and the ceremonial sites implemented the control over the current creation. This is so entirely different from the attitudes toward the Gods which developed in the Mediterranean region, as to be nearly incomprehensible to westerner
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western history has forgotten what these "shaman" possessed in ability
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this also explains why stuff from our distant past has never been understood until our 21st century
our environment alteration
and it explains why the stuff is person sensitive as in:
it fits the ones it was designed to fit

clever tounge
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this also explains why stuff from our distant past has never been understood until our 21st century
our environment alteration
and it explains why the stuff is person sensitive as in:
it fits the ones it was designed to fit

clever tounge
 Quoting: aether


and most important of all
it was achieved utilizing our environments (universe) precognition attribute thus there is no misunderstanding about who is who because this was motivated by our universes motive thus it occurred
were it not so it never could
and our current linear time environment, the same environment there always is makes it so today just as it made it so back then when the notion occurred
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remembering:

What was much more important was to control the path of the Sun, as a sign that the current creation of the world was being maintained by the shamans, by the continued use of the Tzolkin calendar, and by the use of the proper location of ceremonial centers. In a fashion typical of well-documented later Mesoamerican philosophical thinking, mankind was responsible for this, and the ceremonial sites implemented the control over the current creation. This is so entirely different from the attitudes toward the Gods which developed in the Mediterranean region, as to be nearly incomprehensible to westerner
 Quoting: juno cook


western history has forgotten what these "shaman" possessed in ability
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It has not been forgotten. It has just been miss labeled. And often demonized in religious context.

Nobody brought up the burning of 'witches' earlier.

Before the Shaman, were the Oracles.

The Sibyls.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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feels like friday night

cheer everybody cheers
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remembering:

What was much more important was to control the path of the Sun, as a sign that the current creation of the world was being maintained by the shamans, by the continued use of the Tzolkin calendar, and by the use of the proper location of ceremonial centers. In a fashion typical of well-documented later Mesoamerican philosophical thinking, mankind was responsible for this, and the ceremonial sites implemented the control over the current creation. This is so entirely different from the attitudes toward the Gods which developed in the Mediterranean region, as to be nearly incomprehensible to westerner
 Quoting: juno cook


western history has forgotten what these "shaman" possessed in ability
 Quoting: aether


It has not been forgotten. It has just been miss labeled. And often demonized in religious context.

Nobody brought up the burning of 'witches' earlier.

Before the Shaman, were the Oracles.

The Sibyls.
 Quoting: Seer777


i know, you are right and still is a tricky topic

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Everything comes back to itself, eventually, infinitely. A drop of water is an ocean. A grain of sand a massive land.

This is one of the simplest yet deepest secrets.
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remembering:

What was much more important was to control the path of the Sun, as a sign that the current creation of the world was being maintained by the shamans, by the continued use of the Tzolkin calendar, and by the use of the proper location of ceremonial centers. In a fashion typical of well-documented later Mesoamerican philosophical thinking, mankind was responsible for this, and the ceremonial sites implemented the control over the current creation. This is so entirely different from the attitudes toward the Gods which developed in the Mediterranean region, as to be nearly incomprehensible to westerner
 Quoting: juno cook


western history has forgotten what these "shaman" possessed in ability
 Quoting: aether


It has not been forgotten. It has just been miss labeled. And often demonized in religious context.

Nobody brought up the burning of 'witches' earlier.

Before the Shaman, were the Oracles.

The Sibyls.
 Quoting: Seer777


It's not censored in any way. Vast resources are available to anyone that wishes to pursue this knowledge.

It's not 1413...

There is no real institutionalized big banking/corporate agenda to demonize the occult. The 'big guys' are into it and it often finds it's way into the mainstream poisonous media well.




That being said, I don't cast judgments on people's religious beliefs...Nor do alternative beliefs bother me...Just saying that this imaginary big scary inquisition that I see 'occultists' bring up is wildly exaggerated.

A few grassroots youtube videos and some fanatical, snake charming, preachers doesn't quite equal the "criminal banking/mass media elite" propaganda machine.



We need to live in the now.

...and to be kind of an irritating a-hole...I could say "remove the fear" or some other equally new agey slogan...but I wont...
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The Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to the Great Generation with no ruler over it, that is the spirit and the soul- self generation.

No man knows the hour or the day
( of the Soul's Victory )

Imagine yourself as a garden. Nurture and protect it:)
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It has not been forgotten. It has just been miss labeled. And often demonized in religious context.

Nobody brought up the burning of 'witches' earlier.

Before the Shaman, were the Oracles.

The Sibyls.
 Quoting: Seer777


It's not censored in any way. Vast resources are available to anyone that wishes to pursue this knowledge.

It's not 1413...

There is no real institutionalized big banking/corporate agenda to demonize the occult. The 'big guys' are into it and it often finds it's way into the mainstream poisonous media well.




That being said, I don't cast judgments on people's religious beliefs...Nor do alternative beliefs bother me...Just saying that this imaginary big scary inquisition that I see 'occultists' bring up is wildly exaggerated.

A few grassroots youtube videos and some fanatical, snake charming, preachers doesn't quite equal the "criminal banking/mass media elite" propaganda machine.



We need to live in the now.

...and to be kind of an irritating a-hole...I could say "remove the fear" or some other equally new agey slogan...but I wont...
 Quoting: Rayrayz


Of course it is not censored. It is Glorified. Satanism?

Pfft...

lol.


Look at our cinema.


Why was Harry Potter so wildly popular?

The Matrix?

X-Men


Superman...

Heroes
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Yes.

Thank you.

I would have added that to my previous post...had I known the 'link'.

:)
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The Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to the Great Generation with no ruler over it, that is the spirit and the soul- self generation.

No man knows the hour or the day
( of the Soul's Victory )

Imagine yourself as a garden. Nurture and protect it:)
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It has not been forgotten. It has just been miss labeled. And often demonized in religious context.

Nobody brought up the burning of 'witches' earlier.

Before the Shaman, were the Oracles.

The Sibyls.
 Quoting: Seer777


It's not censored in any way. Vast resources are available to anyone that wishes to pursue this knowledge.

It's not 1413...

There is no real institutionalized big banking/corporate agenda to demonize the occult. The 'big guys' are into it and it often finds it's way into the mainstream poisonous media well.




That being said, I don't cast judgments on people's religious beliefs...Nor do alternative beliefs bother me...Just saying that this imaginary big scary inquisition that I see 'occultists' bring up is wildly exaggerated.

A few grassroots youtube videos and some fanatical, snake charming, preachers doesn't quite equal the "criminal banking/mass media elite" propaganda machine.



We need to live in the now.

...and to be kind of an irritating a-hole...I could say "remove the fear" or some other equally new agey slogan...but I wont...
 Quoting: Rayrayz


Of course it is not censored. It is Glorified. Satanism?

Pfft...

lol.


Look at our cinema.


Why was Harry Potter so wildly popular?

The Matrix?

X-Men


Superman...

Heroes
 Quoting: Seer777


"Satanism' is an occult religion.

Ethnic Jews that are into Satanism and other alternative occult religions, own the media and the financial system.

Stop worrying about Cletus and his big bad bible coming to get you.

"Witch burning" by Christians is a sideshow deflection spouted by Jews, Gays and occultists becuase they have a chip on their shoulder about white western culture.

Waste of time and it feeds into the brainwashing paradigm that 'they' have set up to mislead 'bright educated people' into attacking the completely wrong target.

Last Edited by Rayrayz on 07/03/2013 09:02 PM

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