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President Obama has exchanged letters with Iranian president

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I had a good friend in college who was born in Tehran. He moved to America(California) in his childhood.

He was my first real experience being around someone of the the Islamic Faith.

He, being perhaps non-strict adherent of said, drank, smoked pot, and had sexual relations out of wedlock...


I remember one time when I was at his house, having been exposed to his behaviors many times times in the past, I spotted the Koran on a shelf in his closet.

I asked if I could I could look at it.

He seemed uncomfortable with the question. And paused for a bit.

He then said, okay, but go wash your hands first.


I found that curious.
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i know, there is no answer to that 1dunno1
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Answer?

The curious bit was how he had such reverence for the 'Book' but not the 'teachings' in the way many of his Kin are often forced to hold.


Can you imagine being forced to Worship a certain way?

Freedom of religion is Gift.
Freedom from religion is Enlightenment.



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true story , when in tehran i was told that persia (iran) was once a magical society that was conquered by islam and their way of life was taken from them by the invader, islam
thus they created their own brand of islam (Shia Islam) to regain their dignaty and their sovernity in an islamic world
i believe them tounge

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"A strange, unearthly “shriek” greeted NASA’s Voyager I spacecraft as it became the first man-made object to enter interstellar space.

A strange rising “howl” was detected by instruments aboard the 36-year-old probe, which has travelled 12 billion miles away from our sun.

The sound was transmitted back to scientists on Earth, over a distance so vast radio waves take 17 hours to reach us. Science site iO9 described the sounds as “creepy” and “wraithlike”.

NASA announced this week that the tiny probe has now left the “solar bubble” - a historic moment which marks our species entry into interstellar space.

The “howls” and “shrieks” detected by Voyager’s instruments - actually waves in plasma in space - provided proof."

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Audio at the link...and it is pretty cool...
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Thread: NASA probe hears "shriek" in space as it leaves solar system

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something else i noticed, it is often windy in tehran and you notice the women head to toes sometimes in black veils of thin material which as the wind blows their naked bodies are silhouetted eroticly and legaly to frustration of the moral police tounge
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Answer?

The curious bit was how he had such reverence for the 'Book' but not the 'teachings' in the way many of his Kin are often forced to hold.


Can you imagine being forced to Worship a certain way?

Freedom of religion is Gift.
Freedom from religion is Enlightenment.



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 Quoting: Seer777


true story , when in tehran i was told that persia (iran) was once a magical society that was conquered by islam and their way of life was taken from them by the invader, islam
thus they created their own brand of islam (Shia Islam) to regain their dignaty and their sovernity in an islamic world
i believe them tounge
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I believe he was 'Shiite'.


He died.

Vis-a-vis...

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He died.

Vis-a-vis...

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10/28/2012
Seer, I watched a show about how this woman wanted her brother back because she felt responsible for his death because she led the army to war to save the village. Well, ten years or so after his death she was met with the fates and they sent her back in time and her brother was back but her mother was dead(things were different with the different choices). She was told by the fates if she drew blood all would go back to what it was. Her best friend was a slave in the new life and evil ran a muck. Her brother was just the same and made the same choices, so she then realized that no matter what, it was meant to be...foreseen or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Yes. I agree. Thank you.

He wasn't the first accidental death of a friend I 'foresaw'...just the most poignant.


I will say this, he came to me after, and what he said to me gave me the confidence to explore this aspect of myself with much vigor, while attempting to balance my fear.


I was in the back yard and I was really concentrating on “opening up”. I kept thinking to myself, “I am ready to see”. I began to “look” to see if I could see anything, anything at all.

I thought “are you here?” “Are you with me now?”

Then I heard myself whisper, "vis-à-vis". I had no idea what that meant so I went to Google to find out.

After some time, an answer...

"Face to face".


:)
 Quoting: Seer777

hf
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I believe he was 'Shiite'.


He died.

Vis-a-vis...

RainbowFlames
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yes he would be, iran and saudi are deadly enemies and most of the fighgting utlizes those two at each others throats one way or another
from persia`s point of view it is unimaganable that a few dozen people from no where (mecca) became something they have no right to be
zoroastrianism is what persia wants to return to
freddy was a zoroastrian and this is a zoroastrian song


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He died.

Vis-a-vis...

RainbowFlames
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10/28/2012
Seer, I watched a show about how this woman wanted her brother back because she felt responsible for his death because she led the army to war to save the village. Well, ten years or so after his death she was met with the fates and they sent her back in time and her brother was back but her mother was dead(things were different with the different choices). She was told by the fates if she drew blood all would go back to what it was. Her best friend was a slave in the new life and evil ran a muck. Her brother was just the same and made the same choices, so she then realized that no matter what, it was meant to be...foreseen or not.
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Yes. I agree. Thank you.

He wasn't the first accidental death of a friend I 'foresaw'...just the most poignant.


I will say this, he came to me after, and what he said to me gave me the confidence to explore this aspect of myself with much vigor, while attempting to balance my fear.


I was in the back yard and I was really concentrating on “opening up”. I kept thinking to myself, “I am ready to see”. I began to “look” to see if I could see anything, anything at all.

I thought “are you here?” “Are you with me now?”

Then I heard myself whisper, "vis-à-vis". I had no idea what that meant so I went to Google to find out.

After some time, an answer...

"Face to face".


:)
 Quoting: Seer777

hf
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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and it got us here today
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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I felt it as 'unnatural' as it could get.

It made no 'logical' sense to me.

It still does not...

cause it sucks to know doom is coming?


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Yes.


Deja vu...
 Quoting: Seer777


What is doom? inability to see beyond? interference in personal comfort?

alleviation of personal responsibility?

If it is the inevitable, why waste the time?

 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Yes.

This is my reasoning as well.


There was one time, I could have perhaps saved a friend. But having not talked with him in several years, I felt odd about contacting him.

Especially, with something like what I would have relayed to him.

If your interested here is the story


My Dream: The entire dream took place in 2 seconds, like a flash.

Setting:
I was inside a dark car that suddenly flipped counter clockwise and landed at a 45 degree angle on the roof right above the driver side. The window completely crushed inward toward the driver. The car hit with so much force that as soon as the car hit, after flipping, I blacked out and woke up from the “dream”.

During that few seconds this is the impressions I got or how it felt in the crash:

I remember feeling like there was someone next to me in the car, it was dark. The car flipped. It felt a bit like vertigo and everything was suspended in the air floating in midair. At the second the car hits, I watch the driver side roof and window cave in, violently crushing inward, I blacked out, then think

“I died”

the same instant I woke up.


Waking:
I woke up with a violent start and I was really shaken. It was so real I could still feel the sensation of being upside down. I laid there for a while thinking about what I had just seen, experienced, and been through. I remember thinking to myself that there was no way to survive an accident that severe. I was happy I was alive, but it was weird. I didn’t think I had ever had a dream that ended with me thinking “I died.”

Now I can’t remember if I got up at this point or fell back to sleep, but I had another dream that echoed the car crash. It was sunny and I was standing in the front yard at the house my college friends (J, L., and Moh) lived at. We were standing in a small circle without Moh. Then either J. or L. told me that Moh had died.



24hrs later, he was dead in the very fashion I described in the 'dream'.

I still hold that guilt. Of what could have been.

 Quoting: Seer777

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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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and it got us here today
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That's is true. It certainly did...lead here eventually.

:)
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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I felt it as 'unnatural' as it could get.

It made no 'logical' sense to me.

It still does not...

...


Yes.


Deja vu...
 Quoting: Seer777


What is doom? inability to see beyond? interference in personal comfort?

alleviation of personal responsibility?

If it is the inevitable, why waste the time?

 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Yes.

This is my reasoning as well.


There was one time, I could have perhaps saved a friend. But having not talked with him in several years, I felt odd about contacting him.

Especially, with something like what I would have relayed to him.

If your interested here is the story


My Dream: The entire dream took place in 2 seconds, like a flash.

Setting:
I was inside a dark car that suddenly flipped counter clockwise and landed at a 45 degree angle on the roof right above the driver side. The window completely crushed inward toward the driver. The car hit with so much force that as soon as the car hit, after flipping, I blacked out and woke up from the “dream”.

During that few seconds this is the impressions I got or how it felt in the crash:

I remember feeling like there was someone next to me in the car, it was dark. The car flipped. It felt a bit like vertigo and everything was suspended in the air floating in midair. At the second the car hits, I watch the driver side roof and window cave in, violently crushing inward, I blacked out, then think

“I died”

the same instant I woke up.


Waking:
I woke up with a violent start and I was really shaken. It was so real I could still feel the sensation of being upside down. I laid there for a while thinking about what I had just seen, experienced, and been through. I remember thinking to myself that there was no way to survive an accident that severe. I was happy I was alive, but it was weird. I didn’t think I had ever had a dream that ended with me thinking “I died.”

Now I can’t remember if I got up at this point or fell back to sleep, but I had another dream that echoed the car crash. It was sunny and I was standing in the front yard at the house my college friends (J, L., and Moh) lived at. We were standing in a small circle without Moh. Then either J. or L. told me that Moh had died.



24hrs later, he was dead in the very fashion I described in the 'dream'.

I still hold that guilt. Of what could have been.

 Quoting: Seer777

 Quoting: Seer777


yes, things that make sense in the future never make sense in the past
not being disrespctful but it got us all here and from here sense will hopefuly become known in a manner that fits all emotions on the topic
not today but i see the day
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yes, things that make sense in the future never make sense in the past
not being disrespctful but it got us all here and from here sense will hopefuly become known in a manner that fits all emotions on the topic
not today but i see the day
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remember the toes, you were going to sit the next dance out tounge
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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and it got us here today
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That's is true. It certainly did...lead here eventually.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


He blamed me once. For something I didn't do. And then suddenly became someone 'I use to know'...


Many months later I was at the pub we all frequented, when I needed to make a phone call at a 'phone booth' <--- remember those?

lol.

He suddenly came into the little room and asked to talk to me.

We walked back to his house, and sat on the front step. He then proceeded to apologize to me, for blaming for something I didn't do, that he had recently realized.

He was crying.

I watched him then experience the pain I had experienced with his sudden shunning. He saw it. Recognized it. And atoned for it.

Having not seen a 'grown man cry' besides my father once as a youth, I was taken aback.


We became friends again after...


I have considered...that perhaps his reasoning of showing me his death 24hrs before it occurred, and then coming to me after, was his way of 'making it right'.

Or something...



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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
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and it got us here today
 Quoting: aether


That's is true. It certainly did...lead here eventually.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


He blamed me once. For something I didn't do. And then suddenly became someone 'I use to know'...


Many months later I was at the pub we all frequented, when I needed to make a phone call at a 'phone booth' <--- remember those?

lol.

He suddenly came into the little room and asked to talk to me.

We walked back to his house, and sat on the front step. He then proceeded to apologize to me, for blaming for something I didn't do, that he had recently realized.

He was crying.

I watched him then experience the pain I had experienced with his sudden shunning. He saw it. Recognized it. And atoned for it.

Having not seen a 'grown man cry' besides my father once as a youth, I was taken aback.


We became friends again after...


I have considered...that perhaps his reasoning of showing me his death 24hrs before it occurred, and then coming to me after, was his way of 'making it right'.

Or something...



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 Quoting: Seer777


yes , along with prompting you to discover more of you
and in discovering more of you, you become more you and in becomeing more you , you knew more of all things that are not you and they knew more of you

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President Obama has exchanged letters with Iranian president

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I had a good friend in college who was born in Tehran. He moved to America(California) in his childhood.

He was my first real experience being around someone of the the Islamic Faith.

He, being perhaps non-strict adherent of said, drank, smoked pot, and had sexual relations out of wedlock...


I remember one time when I was at his house, having been exposed to his behaviors many times times in the past, I spotted the Koran on a shelf in his closet.

I asked if I could I could look at it.

He seemed uncomfortable with the question. And paused for a bit.

He then said, okay, but go wash your hands first.


I found that curious.
 Quoting: Seer777


bsflag
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President Obama has exchanged letters with Iranian president

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I had a good friend in college who was born in Tehran. He moved to America(California) in his childhood.

He was my first real experience being around someone of the the Islamic Faith.

He, being perhaps non-strict adherent of said, drank, smoked pot, and had sexual relations out of wedlock...


I remember one time when I was at his house, having been exposed to his behaviors many times times in the past, I spotted the Koran on a shelf in his closet.

I asked if I could I could look at it.

He seemed uncomfortable with the question. And paused for a bit.

He then said, okay, but go wash your hands first.


I found that curious.
 Quoting: Seer777


bsflag
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i hope you washed your hands before you raised that flag
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yes , along with prompting you to discover more of you
and in discovering more of you, you become more you and in becomeing more you , you knew more of all things that are not you and they knew more of you
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It was...the 'straw that broke the back'...so to speak.

I could no longer deny...


So instead, it gave me the bravery to face it head on.

The journey of a 1000 miles, begins with a single step...


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yes , along with prompting you to discover more of you
and in discovering more of you, you become more you and in becomeing more you , you knew more of all things that are not you and they knew more of you
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It was...the 'straw that broke the back'...so to speak.

I could no longer deny...


So instead, it gave me the bravery to face it head on.

The journey of a 1000 miles, begins with a single step...


[link to www.youtube.com]
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oh , well i quite like that how you tell it, brave to do that though, well done
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i like that a lot actualy , the whole thing cos it feels so natural
 Quoting: aether


and it got us here today
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yes, i disovered that myself tonight /z\ , when i heard the voice you heard say face to face as if it was this day thus i knew what brought us here was there tounge
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I had a good friend in college who was born in Tehran. He moved to America(California) in his childhood.

He was my first real experience being around someone of the the Islamic Faith.

He, being perhaps non-strict adherent of said, drank, smoked pot, and had sexual relations out of wedlock...


I remember one time when I was at his house, having been exposed to his behaviors many times times in the past, I spotted the Koran on a shelf in his closet.

I asked if I could I could look at it.

He seemed uncomfortable with the question. And paused for a bit.

He then said, okay, but go wash your hands first.


I found that curious.
 Quoting: Seer777


bsflag
 Quoting: Rayrayz


i hope you washed your hands before you raised that flag
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lmao

I did...but they are still sticky...
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"Find the others, find the others...some magic is REAL."

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"Find the others, find the others...some magic is REAL."

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yes
nn all and sleep well when you go tounge
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"Find the others, find the others...some magic is REAL."

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One just needs to SEE it for what it is.
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Grawr! I C U.

U Shiny.
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i just thought of something

is it hell to live in peace for those whom fight for sacrifice

hmm
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i imagine that, not able to experience sacrifice through combat
what do you do
oh
kill yourself
that`s okay
they can do it that way tounge
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Good morning.

We will always have a battle somewhere if we want it.

The ground may change, but a fight is a fight.

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In the clip he is happy to die, the old man, cause he dies in battle, to die in battle means you get to feast with the gods :)
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off to work i go, laters.
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Troy: Homer’s Plasma Holocaust
Sep 16, 2013

Part 1 “The Iliad”

The Trojan War began with the abduction of the tantalizing Helen by the handsome Paris. Our saga begins in the shattered, burning ruins of a once glorious Troy. A Troy devastated by Zeus’s incredible cosmic thunderbolts, flattened by Poseidon’s earthquakes and floods, and burned by Apollo’s heavenly fire and deadly plagues. A Troy that was part of a Mycenaean Age Mediterranean basin that repeatedly suffered relentless war, devastating plague, drought, famine and abandonment. In brief we are to follow in French archaeologist Claude Schaeffer’s pioneering footsteps and reinterpret the ancient Trojan War from an Electric Universe paradigm.

Schaeffer’s work confirmed that a series of ancient cataclysmic crises on a continental scale took place three to five thousand years ago. In his examination of numerous Middle Eastern sites, he found violent earthquakes had shaken the entire ancient Middle East, from Troy at the Dardanelles (Turkey), to Russia, Iran and Egypt at least six times! The stratigraphy was stark; separated by up to ten meters of ash!

Those civilizations were suddenly terminated. Traffic, commerce, and pursuit of the arts ceased, and populations of all countries were decimated. The survivors became vagrants and pirates with plagues and famine taking their devastating toll! Incredibly dramatic climate change paralleled that event. It has recently been confirmed by Yale’s Harvey Weiss in the “Tell Leilan” project. In one instance he cites three hundred years of drought followed by massive continent wide flooding. Earthquakes, tsunamis, climatic changes and other natural catastrophic agents wreaked havoc on a scale unseen in modern times. They moulded, reshaped and destroyed thriving civilizations. Schaeffer’s famous conclusion was very unfashionable at the time but he has since been totally vindicated: “Those great crises will explain better than before, the historical development of the most ancient civilizations and its mechanism, and they will definitely take out of the hands of man the command of the great historical happenings we thought he possessed.”

Yet, he puzzled over the causative agent. What evoked those earthquakes and floods? As puzzling, he observed they were ten times more powerful than any observed in recent times? We will try to solve this mystery.

From an historical perspective, Homer’s Iliad describes the highly civilized Mycenaean Greeks with their fabulous Cyclopean cities, flourishing civilization and sophisticated collection of proud ships. They were arrayed against the formidable King Priam with his powerful capitol Troy, dominating what is today’s Turkish entrance to the Bosporus Sea. That strategic headland is the same scene as the First World War’s Gallipoli debacle.

In warlike mode, those two kingdoms battled for ten years while around them a huge cosmic battle raged in the heavens. In their fear they pleaded to the battling sky gods for divine intervention, and intervene they did with devastating results. The Greek leader Agamemnon even sacrificed his daughter, Iphigenia, in the belief he could control the feisty heavenly host.

The sky gods Ares, Zeus, Apollo, Athena and Aphrodite seemed to take sides with either the Greeks or Trojans in thatIt chaotic celestial drama. In the end Troy was laid waste and abandoned not by warlords but primarily by the forces of nature. More than once Troy was devastated by fire, earthquakes, storms and floods! The Trojan War was but one episode. Quoting Homer from the Iliad: “Zeus lashes the ground.” “A meteor that is discharged from Zeus.” “Zeus bought down high towers and will destroy others.” “Zeus destroyer of cities.” “Zeus sent a flash of lightning amongst the troops.” “Apollo of the deadly plague.” “Apollo – nine days the god’s arrows rained.” “Athena sacker of towns.” “Murderous Ares, butcher of men sacker of towns.”..............................
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i just thought of something

is it hell to live in peace for those whom fight for sacrifice

hmm
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i imagine that, not able to experience sacrifice through combat
what do you do
oh
kill yourself
that`s okay
they can do it that way tounge
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Good morning.

We will always have a battle somewhere if we want it.


The ground may change, but a fight is a fight.


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good morning
i agree

that is a truth i believe

truth

We will always have a battle somewhere if we want it.
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