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Yeah. The Caddo Indians. Much of my childhood was spent wandering the miles and miles of woods behind my house. Sometimes alone. Sometimes with friends. Many great adventures were had in those woods...and many wars between neighborhood factions. Kids dressed up in full camouflage and plastic guns with the absolute assurance that our tactics would prevail.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


i did the same as a kid, we all did, re enacted the noble role of battle in the current costumes of the day

everyone was pleased we were normal to do so

society then expected us to stop when we became a little older and only utilize our fighting skills when our government ordered us to fight

funny that, being born into a society structured to fight
 Quoting: aether


True. But I see it more as a society structured to obey. We are natural fighters. The government trains us to be benign enough to obey; but when true war breaks out they suddenly want to train us to unleash the beast within us.

In times of 'peace' they fail to keep us totally benign. So they invent perceived social issues to keep us aimed at one another. In times of 'war' they simply pull the cultural social differences from the facade and place it out front. Then they let us unleash our frustration with them on another peoples equally frustrated with their own government.

It's a clever game. I don't understand why they want to end it so soon. Global government is just a bubble that will unavoidable grow and pop without a perceived outside culture to focus our dissatisfaction on.

That is, as long as petty tyrants stand at the pinnacle of perceived power...or as long as we continue to fail to understand that we are at war within ourselves.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


good summantion
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Yes...just before the phantoms arrived and turned the golden eagle black as night.
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what we have discovered is that it was our gods in heaven that simultaneously prompted us to fight, by their example, as they provided us with a new environment to fight within

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Yes...just before the phantoms arrived and turned the golden eagle black as night.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


what we have discovered is that it was our gods in heaven that simultaneously prompted us to fight, by their example, as they provided us with a new environment to fight within
 Quoting: aether


we have by our own discovery discovered how to provide everything our lifestyle requires without work or fight

but

is that what our gods desire is the current debate of our belief leadership whom have found themselves leading humanity in this questionable era

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Yes...just before the phantoms arrived and turned the golden eagle black as night.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


what we have discovered is that it was our gods in heaven that simultaneously prompted us to fight, by their example, as they provided us with a new environment to fight within
 Quoting: aether


we have by our own discovery discovered how to provide everything our lifestyle requires without work or fight

but

is that what our gods desire is the current debate of our belief leadership whom have found themselves leading humanity in this questionable era
 Quoting: aether


We have so much time to develop our spirit. Technology has given us this extra time.

Yet the masses are conditioning themselves to fill this time with entertainment and superficial indulgence.

I suppose one could make the point that focusing all our attention (as was done in previous era's) on basic survival needs develops spiritual growth and the exercise of intent in an efficient manner.

But it has led us to today. So to regress back to the point of basic struggles for food and shelter may bring back a semblance of that spiritual connection.

But is this truly moving forward? I say if the masses want to be entertained...those who have the gifts to entertain should give them a show they will not easily forget.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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As Mat Cauthon would say...'It's time to roll the dice..."
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Yeah. The Caddo Indians. Much of my childhood was spent wandering the miles and miles of woods behind my house. Sometimes alone. Sometimes with friends. Many great adventures were had in those woods...and many wars between neighborhood factions. Kids dressed up in full camouflage and plastic guns with the absolute assurance that our tactics would prevail.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


i did the same as a kid, we all did, re enacted the noble role of battle in the current costumes of the day

everyone was pleased we were normal to do so

society then expected us to stop when we became a little older and only utilize our fighting skills when our government ordered us to fight

funny that, being born into a society structured to fight
 Quoting: aether


True. But I see it more as a society structured to obey. We are natural fighters. The government trains us to be benign enough to obey; but when true war breaks out they suddenly want to train us to unleash the beast within us.

In times of 'peace' they fail to keep us totally benign. So they invent perceived social issues to keep us aimed at one another. In times of 'war' they simply pull the cultural social differences from the facade and place it out front. Then they let us unleash our frustration with them on another peoples equally frustrated with their own government.

It's a clever game. I don't understand why they want to end it so soon. Global government is just a bubble that will unavoidable grow and pop without a perceived outside culture to focus our dissatisfaction on.

That is, as long as petty tyrants stand at the pinnacle of perceived power...or as long as we continue to fail to understand that we are at war within ourselves.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


To toss in my too (S)cents. Fighting is created from stifled creative urge. The laying atop of one potential for another.

Artificial scarcity not only creates fear but a looping agenda that self justifies and frustrates. This creates the desired aggression and vector.
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Yes...just before the phantoms arrived and turned the golden eagle black as night.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


what we have discovered is that it was our gods in heaven that simultaneously prompted us to fight, by their example, as they provided us with a new environment to fight within
 Quoting: aether


we have by our own discovery discovered how to provide everything our lifestyle requires without work or fight

but

is that what our gods desire is the current debate of our belief leadership whom have found themselves leading humanity in this questionable era
 Quoting: aether


We have so much time to develop our spirit. Technology has given us this extra time.

Yet the masses are conditioning themselves to fill this time with entertainment and superficial indulgence.

I suppose one could make the point that focusing all our attention (as was done in previous era's) on basic survival needs develops spiritual growth and the exercise of intent in an efficient manner.

But it has led us to today. So to regress back to the point of basic struggles for food and shelter may bring back a semblance of that spiritual connection.

But is this truly moving forward? I say if the masses want to be entertained...those who have the gifts to entertain should give them a show they will not easily forget.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


exactly passive entertainment over active creation. It evolves the conciousness in a veal cage.

Circum et panem.
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Yeah. The Caddo Indians. Much of my childhood was spent wandering the miles and miles of woods behind my house. Sometimes alone. Sometimes with friends. Many great adventures were had in those woods...and many wars between neighborhood factions. Kids dressed up in full camouflage and plastic guns with the absolute assurance that our tactics would prevail.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


i did the same as a kid, we all did, re enacted the noble role of battle in the current costumes of the day

everyone was pleased we were normal to do so

society then expected us to stop when we became a little older and only utilize our fighting skills when our government ordered us to fight

funny that, being born into a society structured to fight
 Quoting: aether


True. But I see it more as a society structured to obey. We are natural fighters. The government trains us to be benign enough to obey; but when true war breaks out they suddenly want to train us to unleash the beast within us.

In times of 'peace' they fail to keep us totally benign. So they invent perceived social issues to keep us aimed at one another. In times of 'war' they simply pull the cultural social differences from the facade and place it out front. Then they let us unleash our frustration with them on another peoples equally frustrated with their own government.

It's a clever game. I don't understand why they want to end it so soon. Global government is just a bubble that will unavoidable grow and pop without a perceived outside culture to focus our dissatisfaction on.

That is, as long as petty tyrants stand at the pinnacle of perceived power...or as long as we continue to fail to understand that we are at war within ourselves.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


To toss in my too (S)cents. Fighting is created from stifled creative urge. The laying atop of one potential for another.

Artificial scarcity not only creates fear but a looping agenda that self justifies and frustrates. This creates the desired aggression and vector.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


True. I would add that artificial scarcity is not so artificial when applied to the average mortal man trapped in his own perceptions while discarding the possibility of his unavoidable and perhaps imminent encounter with death.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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motive

people require the motive that motivates their senses outside of their traditional motivational sense and it needs to be practical . as in:
redefinition of both people and their environment (universe) people are people within

nothing less will satisfy expectation because we possess nothing within our past that satisfies our present expectation

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As Mat Cauthon would say...'It's time to roll the dice..."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Oh shit. Talk about synchronicity.

Thread: Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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i did the same as a kid, we all did, re enacted the noble role of battle in the current costumes of the day

everyone was pleased we were normal to do so

society then expected us to stop when we became a little older and only utilize our fighting skills when our government ordered us to fight

funny that, being born into a society structured to fight
 Quoting: aether


True. But I see it more as a society structured to obey. We are natural fighters. The government trains us to be benign enough to obey; but when true war breaks out they suddenly want to train us to unleash the beast within us.

In times of 'peace' they fail to keep us totally benign. So they invent perceived social issues to keep us aimed at one another. In times of 'war' they simply pull the cultural social differences from the facade and place it out front. Then they let us unleash our frustration with them on another peoples equally frustrated with their own government.

It's a clever game. I don't understand why they want to end it so soon. Global government is just a bubble that will unavoidable grow and pop without a perceived outside culture to focus our dissatisfaction on.

That is, as long as petty tyrants stand at the pinnacle of perceived power...or as long as we continue to fail to understand that we are at war within ourselves.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


To toss in my too (S)cents. Fighting is created from stifled creative urge. The laying atop of one potential for another.

Artificial scarcity not only creates fear but a looping agenda that self justifies and frustrates. This creates the desired aggression and vector.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


True. I would add that artificial scarcity is not so artificial when applied to the average mortal man trapped in his own perceptions while discarding the possibility of his unavoidable and perhaps imminent encounter with death.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


And oddly enough our epicurean society has created an aversion to death over all else.

Imo, making truth a pale agenda second to survival. Rather Ironic since it is unavoidable.

But, it quite glaringly shows us the agenda inside of this Bedlam.
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As Mat Cauthon would say...'It's time to roll the dice..."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Oh shit. Talk about synchronicity.

Thread: Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


My favorite character from the greatest story ever told.

[link to wot.wikia.com]
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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As Mat Cauthon would say...'It's time to roll the dice..."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Oh shit. Talk about synchronicity.

Thread: Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


My favorite character from the greatest story ever told.

[link to wot.wikia.com]
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Rand was/is mine. Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
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Interesting, I was just outside and kept hearing Maat...

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As Mat Cauthon would say...'It's time to roll the dice..."
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Oh shit. Talk about synchronicity.

Thread: Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


My favorite character from the greatest story ever told.

[link to wot.wikia.com]
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Rand was/is mine. Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Exactly the reverse for me. How fitting. ;)
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
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Interesting, I was just outside and kept hearing Maat...

tounge
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drevil
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
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Interesting, I was just outside and kept hearing Maat...

tounge
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you would

the guys are reviving zoroaster in the best and oldest story
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maat symbolizes information zoroaster utilized as best he could at that time
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Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Interesting, I was just outside and kept hearing Maat...

tounge
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you would

the guys are reviving zoroaster in the best and oldest story
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maat symbolizes information zoroaster utilized as best he could at that time
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'Golden Camel'

damned


That only took 2 days...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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My favorite character from the greatest story ever told.

[link to wot.wikia.com]
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Rand was/is mine. Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Exactly the reverse for me. How fitting. ;)
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I thought so too when you said Matt was your favorite.

rockon
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Interesting, I was just outside and kept hearing Maat...

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


you would

the guys are reviving zoroaster in the best and oldest story
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maat symbolizes information zoroaster utilized as best he could at that time
 Quoting: aether


I need to fully look into him. It is a name that is constantly repeated.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Matt was/is my second favorite of the main characters.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Interesting, I was just outside and kept hearing Maat...

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


you would

the guys are reviving zoroaster in the best and oldest story
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

maat symbolizes information zoroaster utilized as best he could at that time
 Quoting: aether



'Golden Camel'

damned


That only took 2 days...
 Quoting: Seer777


What "regulates it" is our system of measurement: meters and seconds. These are calibrated against electromagnetic forces (light) and so by definition light's local speed is exactly the same everywhere. The constancy of light speed is not an experimental fact but a useful protocol that agrees with previous historical measurement protocols such as the standard meter (a collection of atoms held together by electromagnetic forces) and the "ticking" of the clock in the human brain (also controlled by electro-chemical forces).
 Quoting: nasa themis

 Quoting: nasa


swinger you getting what language nasa is talking to us in now


OK, they are crossing genres. About time. Also, whether intended or not, they are using some very interesting keywords.

E/M forces is LIGHT. Wow...is that a direct quote?

What are the 'forces' of E/M? Charge and Field

This is crazy. They are speaking exactly 'our language'. No particles of light are mentioned. No 'photons'. Amazingly, they mention spatial and temporal effects do to the speed of light being a constant. Basically, light's constancy allows stability in the spatial dimension, as well as temporal! The constant of light (E/M forces) allows the stability within a collection of atoms to remain cohesive. Perhaps if light (E/M forces) fluctuated, then sometimes the atoms would lose cohesion, and sometimes they would collapse into themselves. LIGHT's constancy prevents this!

Now, put that same general concept into the electro-chemical signatures of the human brain. If Light wasn't a constant, I do not see how a brain could function properly, as the electric signals the brain sends and receives would fluctuate. Wow, that's a scary thought.

The language they are speaking is more 'pure', IMO.
 Quoting: awinger



well swinger their statement has been sitting for 48 hours and 0 reply to it
it seems to confound reply from everyone other than you
so you know 1rof1
i suggest we do nothing and allow nasa `s information take effect within those whom it appears to have struck dumb rockon
 Quoting: aether


well swinger the 3 day feedback "rule" has expired and you are the only reply nasa received thus as you confirmed
it is true


note
in my experience of 2 years direct contact to nasa this is the first comment of theirs never to be answered other than by you

so you know

impressed alien03
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tounge

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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i know
we are not faith based
if nothing practical happens (no feedback), that to tells us something

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'Golden Camel'

damned


That only took 2 days...
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tounge
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Yes, well...

I set that up as a 'proof' marker for myself only, early Saturday morning when for just a moment the sun behind a distant tree resembled a camel on my drive down.

I consciously decided to 'put it out there' and see if it would come back to me.

lol.


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Yes, well...

I set that up as a 'proof' marker for myself only, early Saturday morning when for just a moment the sun behind a distant tree resembled a camel on my drive down.

I consciously decided to 'put it out there' and see if it would come back to me.

lol.


hf
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Here is an unrelated kernel, solely because it is rolling around in my head.

Hyakutake due to it's interweaving in native legend had proven the North American Natives had been active in North America much longer than thought.

The extinction of megafauna and diluvial changes had caused a major shift in conciousness via spirituality and indigenous Shamanism to see the connection with what the planet was saying.

Eastern collectivism was destroyed upon meeting Western Mechanical spiritual models.
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The queen of all queens can calm the 'beast'

Anyone see this movie?
First there were birds leading her to an escape rout. Then another bird who led her to a large nail to defend her self. then a white pure horse was waiting for her to help her escape. Then... the very large white pure elk with antlers like a tree bowing to her blessing her.

I thought it was a good movie ;)
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Here is an unrelated kernel, solely because it is rolling around in my head.

Hyakutake due to it's interweaving in native legend had proven the North American Natives had been active in North America much longer than thought.

The extinction of megafauna and diluvial changes had caused a major shift in conciousness via spirituality and indigenous Shamanism to see the connection with what the planet was saying.

Eastern collectivism was destroyed upon meeting Western Mechanical spiritual models.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


One stated we were unworthy and disconnected from birth and only to be reconnected by gods official tech support team.

The other that we were connected before birth and through death. The sacred hoop.


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