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# X Marks the Spot

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Did you see this video yet? Is win!

Well worth a watch , even if you know about these things.

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Pinnate refers to feather-like or multi-divided features arising from both sides of a common axis.

:)
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

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...

why woulf you build something with no angles , you round the edges where they meet cos you can and it makes you feel better
why does it make you feel better, cos you thoughts dont get "caught" in corners and angles thus remain as round as you thought them
now that`s a room
Quoting: aether

and if nature never travels in a straight line, always spirals from a to b because it takes no energy to get from a to b when you spiral cos there is always a spiral there to carry your "load" (thought)
and because there are not gaps your thought is carried within the thought that there is no gap within thus your thought is seen to move
cos
it is trnamitted by the thought that fills all space and because you are never all that is not you, it is your thought that is tramitted (visible), because all else knows what it is doing thus your thought becomes the thought noticed, by all that is not you ,thus visible in where it goes and what it does

i feel better for saying that
Quoting: aether

That is why the natives say 'be straight as an arrow' and the, I think western saying, 'follow the straight and narrow'. An arrow goes from point a to point b but spirals as it is traveling. From feather to chert.
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And the height and form of the feather controlls the vortex. Lower profile the tighter the vortex created for the arrow in flight:-)
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It's almost powwow time here. That is where I heard straight and arrow. I'm excited. I knew you would know better than me about arrow, lol. I was like, crap, I hope they spin or spiral. I was pretty sure but then second guessed.
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Pinnate refers to feather-like or multi-divided features arising from both sides of a common axis.

:)
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

I was thinking about that sort of. It was about the seeds placed in stonehenge or a place of charge. How the seeds went back to the original state. And was thinking how do they know it was the first state and not the last state.
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Pinnate refers to feather-like or multi-divided features arising from both sides of a common axis.

:)
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Last Edited by Seer777 on 09/25/2013 05:34 PM
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Seed in reference to this

they may have radiated but causing light as in : they act like a light bulb never comes up
causing electrostatic fields over large areas causing all things within the fields to live "golden age lifestyle" could be one of their functions and it could have been global looking at the scale of the system
Quoting: aether

Oh, SS said something about the capstone giving off light on top the pyramids. That is how light came up, lol

How does that relate to this, or what is the difference?
Two different types of fields?
In short the bioactive field is fractal. This is the reason the 'field effect' at stonehenge - the 'shem' stone- MAKES SEEDS GROW...( and the only way to be an architect- make the life giving field!). Note how the Hypogeum cultures- those who knew how to MAKE the bioactive field - kiva- were consistently the turning point when civilization might otherwise have perished
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Kiva

A kiva is a room used by modern Puebloans for religious rituals, many of them associated with the kachina belief system. Among the modern Hopi and most other Pueblo peoples, kivas are square-walled and underground, and are used for spiritual ceremonies.

Similar subterranean rooms are found among ruins in the American southwest, indicating ritual or cultural use by the ancient peoples of the region including the Ancient Pueblo Peoples, the Mogollon and the Hohokam

For example, kivas found in Mesa Verde were generally keyhole-shaped. In most larger communities, it was normal to find one kiva for each five or six rooms used as residences.

Fifteen top rooms encircle the central chamber of the vast Great Kiva at Aztec Ruins National Monument. The room's "...purpose is unclear..
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Quoting: aether

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we are not certain as yet
what we know is this
a structure can be constructed and the field (s) within the structure prompt the above
we also notice that when construct structures to form fields, like rodin coils, they cause a field effect outside of their structure which seems able to cause similar effects to the effects prompted within the structures mentioned above
structure and function can never be separated true
but it seems the same ingredients become different effects (functions) dictated by the design of the structure they function within
thus we know we can take our 0 point energy field/higgs bosen/aether , call it what we may it comes out as charge/current and dependent on the structure we design it causes varying field effects
it seems with our ancient global structures they combined indigenous materials/ingredients into designed structures that prompted synergy with our environment in similar fashion to people like tesla describe in their published writings
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Did you see this video yet? Is win!

Well worth a watch , even if you know about these things.

:lkmid:
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i have not yet, i will look when i am "alert"
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If Earth precesses around the magnetic field, but we measure a varying angle between Earth's spin axis and the ecliptic, that means Earth's orbital plane must precess too (only by a very small amount). Are you sure there is NO net charge on the Earth? Again, taking a very conservative approach,and saying that planets were formed with no net charge whatsoever, would'nt we still end up with some charge, just because planets orbit in a plasma in the sun's gravitational field. I'll agree that plasma is sorted by gravity the most strongly at the sun's surface, but don't we have ANY sorting across solar system dimensions?
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I'm of the opinion that the Earth, together with its atmosphere, is effectively net neutral. If it isn't, the solid/liquid Earth is slightly negative. The interplanetary medium is slightly positive, but not very dense, and the entire heliosphere is likely to be net neutral.

My only real reason for going with net neutrality is just that sustained charge separations require a reason, and I don't see a powerful reason at the scale of the entire solar system. Resistance is never infinite, and eventually, charges recombine. So I use that as the foundation.

Inside stars/planets is a different issue. I believe that gravity and electron degeneracy pressure conspire to create current-free double-layers that define the behaviors of these objects. So they're net neutral, and current-free, but nevertheless sporting behaviors that can only be understood in EM terms.
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Quoting: aether

Found this on precession.

After the first half of the expedition, Vespucci mapped Alpha and Beta Centauri, as well as the constellation Crux, the Southern Cross.[9] Although these stars had been known to the ancient Greeks, gradual precession had lowered them below the European horizon so that they had been forgotten.

They said the explorers didn't believe there was another ocean until they went to the panama and saw the pacific.

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Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

we discovered this concerning maypoles

Bringing in the May

The Maypole epitomizes the spirit of the religions that prevailed in northern Europe before Christianity was adopted and provides an ideal test case for the methodology employed in a comparative study of myth and ritual.

The annual festival of cutting down the Maypole tree in the forest and setting it up in the town square has survived in some places and was revived in countless others, mostly in southern Germany, northeastern France, and western Czechia. But unfortunately, despite the resilience of the symbol, as little is known about the Maypole’s origins and symbolism as of the lost Germanic religions themselves.

It is imperative for all scholarly theories to distinguish rigorously between two processes of reasoning, known as induction and deduction, with corresponding “bottom-up” and “top-down” approaches to data. While the results suggested through deductive analysis often square nicely with those obtained through inductive analysis, intellectual stalemate is reached at other times. The Maypole, as well as its colleague, the Christmas tree, and countless other aspects of post-medieval folk tradition, exemplifies such an impasse.

A careful historian of religion adhering to a bottom-up approach to his research collects as much data as possible on Maypole festivities then draws his or her conclusions based on these findings alone, working backwards in time. He or she finds that the Maypole has not been attested any earlier than the late Middle Ages and vanishingly little information survives regarding the function or significance of the symbol.

Just what was the Maypole meant to signify? The inductive thinker reaches a dead end and, erring on the side of caution, is bound to describe the Maypole as a recent folklore item of uncertain origins and uncertain meaning...............
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

Quoting: Seer777

water is making me feel better

Last Edited by aether on 09/25/2013 05:53 PM
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Pinnate refers to feather-like or multi-divided features arising from both sides of a common axis.

:)
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

Perhaps as one twirls around it, one begins to double over on oneself.

Therefore we see ourselves as a 'second' (actually one-half, were the vantage point an effective one) person swinging around the maypole as we start to 'wind backwards'.

It's always been a tough one for me to picture, so perhaps I am not conveying it properly.

I still have the book, somewhere. By Michio Kaku.

On the subject of trains and time.... there are several stories of time-bending trains on this site:

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Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

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?
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Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

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?
Quoting: pi

I remember those.

No. It was a bit of an optical illusion trick I think. One would adjust their hand and the wheel would slide down the wire track.

It was handheld.

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

Quoting: Seer777

This?
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Pinnate refers to feather-like or multi-divided features arising from both sides of a common axis.

:)
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

Perhaps as one twirls around it, one begins to double over on oneself.

Therefore we see ourselves as a 'second' (actually one-half, were the vantage point an effective one) person swinging around the maypole as we start to 'wind backwards'.

It's always been a tough one for me to picture, so perhaps I am not conveying it properly.

I still have the book, somewhere. By Michio Kaku.

On the subject of trains and time.... there are several stories of time-bending trains on this site:

Quoting: pi

If true it would mean the the universe is like a tube and you could slide in time along the 11 dimension.
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This top toy looks cool

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Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

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?
Quoting: pi

I remember those.

No. It was a bit of an optical illusion trick I think. One would adjust their hand and the wheel would slide down the wire track.

It was handheld.

:)
Quoting: Seer777

OK now I remember
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I've read that if one could build an object that could span across the entire Universe, that it would become the object around which time enwraps itself.

The stated 'application' given was to use the object as a maypole, circling around it, until eventually, one will actually come up behind oneself, having traveled backwards in time.

I've always thought that a curious concept.

Where is the longest 'line', anyways?

Quoting: pi

Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

Anyone know what I am talking about?

It had a handle, and a wheel, and would move over a set of wires.

Quoting: Seer777

This?
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Yes. :)

Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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This top toy looks cool

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This one is better
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I remember a cool toy that I guess wasn't a toy but it was glass and had color liquid in it and you wrap your hand around the bottom of it and the heat made the color bubble and rise. I never could figure out what it was called. Looking for the wheel-o reminded me of this.
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This top toy looks cool

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This one is better
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That is pretty awesome
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I remember a cool toy that I guess wasn't a toy but it was glass and had color liquid in it and you wrap your hand around the bottom of it and the heat made the color bubble and rise. I never could figure out what it was called. Looking for the wheel-o reminded me of this.
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I remember those. It would boil, just from the heat of your hand...
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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This top toy looks cool

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This one is better
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That is pretty awesome
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It's like a bey blade in the air
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I remember a cool toy that I guess wasn't a toy but it was glass and had color liquid in it and you wrap your hand around the bottom of it and the heat made the color bubble and rise. I never could figure out what it was called. Looking for the wheel-o reminded me of this.
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Galileo thermometer is similar

also the drinking bird.
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I remember a cool toy that I guess wasn't a toy but it was glass and had color liquid in it and you wrap your hand around the bottom of it and the heat made the color bubble and rise. I never could figure out what it was called. Looking for the wheel-o reminded me of this.
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Mine was built into a pen
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I remember a cool toy that I guess wasn't a toy but it was glass and had color liquid in it and you wrap your hand around the bottom of it and the heat made the color bubble and rise. I never could figure out what it was called. Looking for the wheel-o reminded me of this.
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I remember those. It would boil, just from the heat of your hand...
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Yeah that was it. I really liked it. I don't know if they make them anymore.
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This top toy looks cool

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This one is better
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That is pretty awesome
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It is a bit of work to get is set up an balanced. But cool if you take the time. I see the have a new sinner starter thing. That would be handy.
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I remember a cool toy that I guess wasn't a toy but it was glass and had color liquid in it and you wrap your hand around the bottom of it and the heat made the color bubble and rise. I never could figure out what it was called. Looking for the wheel-o reminded me of this.
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Galileo thermometer is similar

also the drinking bird.
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Found it, is called a hand boiler. I forgot it boils, thanks Seer.

Those are neat thermometers.
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Does the maypole bend around to meet itself? How would one come up behind oneself...unless once one reaches the end, the balance shifts the other way, sending said back in the direction they came.

I am picturing a 'toy' here I can not quite place.

Quoting: Seer777

we discovered this concerning maypoles

Bringing in the May

The Maypole epitomizes the spirit of the religions that prevailed in northern Europe before Christianity was adopted and provides an ideal test case for the methodology employed in a comparative study of myth and ritual.

The annual festival of cutting down the Maypole tree in the forest and setting it up in the town square has survived in some places and was revived in countless others, mostly in southern Germany, northeastern France, and western Czechia. But unfortunately, despite the resilience of the symbol, as little is known about the Maypole’s origins and symbolism as of the lost Germanic religions themselves.

It is imperative for all scholarly theories to distinguish rigorously between two processes of reasoning, known as induction and deduction, with corresponding “bottom-up” and “top-down” approaches to data. While the results suggested through deductive analysis often square nicely with those obtained through inductive analysis, intellectual stalemate is reached at other times. The Maypole, as well as its colleague, the Christmas tree, and countless other aspects of post-medieval folk tradition, exemplifies such an impasse.

A careful historian of religion adhering to a bottom-up approach to his research collects as much data as possible on Maypole festivities then draws his or her conclusions based on these findings alone, working backwards in time. He or she finds that the Maypole has not been attested any earlier than the late Middle Ages and vanishingly little information survives regarding the function or significance of the symbol.

Just what was the Maypole meant to signify? The inductive thinker reaches a dead end and, erring on the side of caution, is bound to describe the Maypole as a recent folklore item of uncertain origins and uncertain meaning...............
Quoting: observation