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A Shamanic tradition commonly called Mu (often termed “Musok” by scholars) is widely believed to be the original religious system of both the Korean peninsula and Jeju, though it takes a different form in each. The worship of Sanshin, mountain spirits, may precede even Mu, according to Professor David Mason of Kyunghee University, though this remains unconfirmed.

Buddhism arrived in Korea from China in the mid 4th century CE and has been present on Jeju for nearly the same period of time, though it was heavily suppressed throughout Korea during the 500-year Joseon dynastic period.

Finding little conflict with the existing shamanic system upon arrival, Buddhism integrated shamanic practices in a variety of ways.

Confucianism, more a social and intellectual structure than religious belief system, arrived in Korea at about the same time as Buddhism but only took firm hold at the time of the Joseon Dynasty – and even later on Jeju, according to local sources. Traditional funeral rites include Confucian ceremony, but the system does not have a distinct concept of afterlife.

Christianity, with its unique set of beliefs concerning afterlife, is a relative newcomer to Jeju Island and thus not a part of the traditional local practices.

At its core, Jeju’s traditional culture is shamanic. The customs and beliefs of Mu, while integrated to some degree with those of Buddhism, have heavily influenced Jeju’s traditions of burial and memorial and concepts of afterlife.

During the traditional funeral rites, 12 symbolic gates through which the spirit of the deceased must pass are constructed in front of the altar. Buckwheat – rather than the rice as used in the mainland – is placed in the palms and central chest of the deceased. Buckwheat assists with passing the spirit dogs that guard the gates to the afterlife.

The ultimate goal after death is to become a “legitimate ancestor” and reside in a spirit world with other deceased and the deities. Getting there, however, can be challenging.

It is the goal of family members to help ensure that the deceased reach the afterlife. In the short-term, the spirit is divided into three parts, one going to the heavens (“Heavenly Emperor”), one to the earth (grave), and one to the memorial altar. Ultimately, these three souls are meant to reintegrate before entering the spirit world as one.

According to Kim Yu Jeong, local scholar, the spirit world is a land of eternally blooming flowers, with each type of flower representing a particular deity. However, this is a mixed Buddhist-Shamanic concept and not universally adopted.

There is no clear notion of cosmos in Korean Shamanism as images of the spirit ascending to a place above and also horizontally crossing “to the other side” are employed. Funeral and memorial rituals focus not on particular cosmic patterns but on emotion and moments of crisis.

The dead, buried close to the home or in the midst of the farmland and residing as well on the memorial altar in the home, are ever-present and in communion with the living. The boundary between life and death is quite porous.
 Quoting: observation

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all of our beliefs are young compared to shamanic belief and nowhere upon gaia was shamanic belief not the norm only a few thousand years ago before our younger beliefs split off into varying different thoughts
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I thought I read that somewhere before. Could of been this thread, lol. But like each part goes to each place. Like matter to gaia, etc...

Huh, interesting it sounds like Mu that was with Atlantis and Lemuria

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Mu is the name of a fictional continent that was once believed to have existed in one of Earth's oceans, but disappeared at the dawn of human history.
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Hey Fancy. That's some really cool stuff being discussed, like how to become a God n stuff :P
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Anciently, men and spirits did not intermingle. At that time there were certain persons who were so perspicacious, single-minded, and reverential that their understanding enabled them to make meaningful collation of what lies above and below, and their insight to illumine what is distant and profound. Therefore the spirits would descend upon them. The possessors of such powers were, if men, called [xi] (shamans), and, if women, wu (shamanesses). It is they who supervised the positions of the spirits at the ceremonies, sacrificed to them, and otherwise handled religious matters. As a consequence, the spheres of the divine and the profane were kept distinct. The spirits sent down blessings on the people, and accepted from them their offerings. There were no natural calamities.

In the degenerate time of [Shaohao] (traditionally put at the twenty-sixth century B.C.), however, the Nine Li threw virtue into disorder. Men and spirits became intermingled, with each household indiscriminately performing for itself the religious observances which had hitherto been conducted by the shamans. As a consequence, men lost their reverence for the spirits, the spirits violated the rules of men, and natural calamities arose. Hence the successor of [Shaohao], [Zhuanxu]..., charged [Chong], Governor of the South, to handle the affairs of heaven in order to determine the proper place of the spirits, and Li, Governor of Fire, to handle the affairs of Earth, in order to determine the proper place of men. And such is what is meant by cutting the communication between Heaven and Earth
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that /z\ is the same story/picture plato`s statesman tells \z/

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Hey Fancy. That's some really cool stuff being discussed, like how to become a God n stuff :P
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Yes, interesting indeed.

hmm
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Check this out:

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Special language

In several groups, shamans used a distinctly archaic version of the normal language interlaced with special metaphors and speech styles.[30][31][32][33] For example, "the shadow is ripening" means the shaman is returning from his spiritual journey during a seance.[34] Expert shamans could speak whole sentences differing from vernacular speech.[31] The shamans among Asiatic Eskimos had a special language, using periphrastic substitutions for names of objects and phenomena; they used it for conversation with the [tuʁnɨʁaq] (spirits).[15] These spirits were believed to have a special language with certain substitutes for ordinary words (“the one with a drum”: shaman, “that with tusks”: walrus).[35] The Ungazighmiit (belonging to Siberian Yupiks) had a special allegoric usage of some expressions.[36]

Observing Sorqaq shaman's seance in a community at Thule, Peter Freuchen explains the motivation in that case:
“ During their seances angakoks are not allowed to mention any objects or beings by their regular names, since it could bring disaster upon the ones mentioned. ”

In this case, the special language was understood by the whole community, not restricted to the shaman or a few “experts”.[37]

In some groups such variants were used when speaking with spirits invoked by the shaman and with unsocialised babies who grew into the human society through a special ritual performed by the mother. Some writers have treated both phenomena as a language for communication with "alien" beings (mothers sometimes used similar language in a socialization ritual, in which the newborn is regarded as a little "alien" — just like spirits or animal souls).[38] The motif of a distinction between spirit and "real" human is present in a tale of Ungazighmiit (subgroup of Siberian Yupik)[39]
“ The oldest man asked the girl: "What, are you not a spirit?" The girl answered: "I am not a spirit. Probably, are you spirits?" The oldest man said: "We are not spirits, [but] real human." ”

Another interesting example of the special shamanic usage and its contribution to relexicalization:[40]
“ Relexicalization is commonly found in cases where native terms were restricted in use, as in old shamanic terms, or became obsolète as a resuit of modernization or technological changes. Thus, in West Greenlandic, an old shamanic term agiaq 'rubbing stone' has become 'violin.'
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This coincides with our mental and emotional bodies, etc... funny the way we break up and categorize different parts of ourselves.
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This coincides with our mental and emotional bodies, etc... funny the way we break up and categorize different parts of ourselves.
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Interesting, looks like a widespread belief

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Ometeotl [oːmeteːotɬ] (Two God) is a name sometimes used about the pair of god Ometecuhtli/Omecihuatl (also known as Tonacatecuhtli and Tonacacihuatl) in Aztec mythology. Whether such a deity existed among the Aztecs and what its meaning was, is a matter of dispute among scholars of Mesoamerican religion. Miguel Leon-Portilla interprets the name "Ometeotl" as "Lord of the Duality"

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Soul dualism or a dualistic soul concept is a range of beliefs that a person has two (or more) kinds of souls. In many cases, one of the souls is associated with body functions (“body soul") and the other one can leave the body (“free soul”).[1][2][3][4][5] Sometimes the plethora of soul types can be even more complex.[6][7] Grasping soul dualism can help to understand many shamanistic beliefs better.
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Like the Netsiliks, the Yupik practised tattooing.[108] Another feature of theirs that is observable among several Eskimo groups: they used a special shamanic language (for talking to spirits, called [tuʁnɨʁaq]).[15] These spirits were believed to have a special language with certain substitutes for ordinary words (“the one with a drum”: shaman, “that with tusks”: walrus).
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Inuit traditional cosmology is not religion in the usual theological sense, and is similar to what most people think of as mythology only in that it is a narrative about the world and the place of people in it. In the words of Inuit writer Rachel Attituq Qitsualik:
“ The Inuit cosmos is ruled by no one. There are no divine mother and father figures. There are no wind gods and solar creators. There are no eternal punishments in the hereafter, as there are no punishments for children or adults in the here and now. ”

Indeed, the traditional stories, rituals and taboos of the Inuit are so tied into the fearful and precautionary culture required by their harsh environment that it raises the question as to whether they qualify as beliefs at all, much less religion. Knud Rasmussen asked his guide and friend Aua, an angakkuq (shaman), about Inuit religious beliefs among the Iglulingmiut (people of Igloolik) and was told: "We don't believe. We fear." Living in a varied and irregular world, the Inuit traditionally did not worship anything, but they feared much. Some authors[who?] debate the conclusions we might deduce from Aua's words, because the angakkuq was under the influence of missionaries, and later he even converted to Christianity — converted people often see the ideas in polarisation and contrasts, the authors say. Their study also analyses beliefs of several Inuit groups, concluding (among others) that fear was not diffuse.
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Interesting, looks like a widespread belief

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ometeotl [oːmeteːotɬ] (Two God) is a name sometimes used about the pair of god Ometecuhtli/Omecihuatl (also known as Tonacatecuhtli and Tonacacihuatl) in Aztec mythology. Whether such a deity existed among the Aztecs and what its meaning was, is a matter of dispute among scholars of Mesoamerican religion. Miguel Leon-Portilla interprets the name "Ometeotl" as "Lord of the Duality"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Soul dualism or a dualistic soul concept is a range of beliefs that a person has two (or more) kinds of souls. In many cases, one of the souls is associated with body functions (“body soul") and the other one can leave the body (“free soul”).[1][2][3][4][5] Sometimes the plethora of soul types can be even more complex.[6][7] Grasping soul dualism can help to understand many shamanistic beliefs better.
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yes, if you are a shaman you have to explain yourself doing this

I was outside after my run and this person who is never out in the mornings was walking too, toward me on the opposite side of the street. Anyway, the light was not great, the sun wasn't even up yet, I was kind of in training zone…where I just kind of focus on my own vibration…it’s going to sound funny but when I run I kind of feel like a boat and I imagine the bow cutting through the water and visualize the waves going out all around me…it’s stupid I know it’s just me.

Anyway I’m almost home so I was walking at this point, I meet eyes with this person and then all of a sudden I get a forward down-rush feeling in my head like when you do a summersault...and I hear/feel the "crunch". I don't know how to explain really what happened...I thought I fell forward and kind of did a kick step to catch myself from falling flat on my face and I'm floating. I have never felt or been able to do that just out of nowhere...like I didn't even try to do it. I realized what happened and look back and I'm standing on the sidewalk just still, with my eyes open and then "me" looked at "me"...

As soon as I make eye contact with myself…I get that head rush again like I’m going feet over head and I’m back in my body with my heart beating so fast it was all I could physically hear after the giant crunch of getting back in body. The person on the sidewalk is still walking like nothing happened and I’m just standing there like wtf?
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was that 2 tukiko`s (2 souls) or 1 tukiko

altering velocity of dimensions is yet to be seen (known) in the informational vocabulary of records/tradition thus far found in our past 9000 years

is what we are looking at

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Check this out:

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Special language

In several groups, shamans used a distinctly archaic version of the normal language interlaced with special metaphors and speech styles.[30][31][32][33] For example, "the shadow is ripening" means the shaman is returning from his spiritual journey during a seance.[34] Expert shamans could speak whole sentences differing from vernacular speech.[31] The shamans among Asiatic Eskimos had a special language, using periphrastic substitutions for names of objects and phenomena; they used it for conversation with the [tuʁnɨʁaq] (spirits).[15] These spirits were believed to have a special language with certain substitutes for ordinary words (“the one with a drum”: shaman, “that with tusks”: walrus).[35] The Ungazighmiit (belonging to Siberian Yupiks) had a special allegoric usage of some expressions.[36]

Observing Sorqaq shaman's seance in a community at Thule, Peter Freuchen explains the motivation in that case:
“ During their seances angakoks are not allowed to mention any objects or beings by their regular names, since it could bring disaster upon the ones mentioned. ”

In this case, the special language was understood by the whole community, not restricted to the shaman or a few “experts”.[37]

In some groups such variants were used when speaking with spirits invoked by the shaman and with unsocialised babies who grew into the human society through a special ritual performed by the mother. Some writers have treated both phenomena as a language for communication with "alien" beings (mothers sometimes used similar language in a socialization ritual, in which the newborn is regarded as a little "alien" — just like spirits or animal souls).[38] The motif of a distinction between spirit and "real" human is present in a tale of Ungazighmiit (subgroup of Siberian Yupik)[39]
“ The oldest man asked the girl: "What, are you not a spirit?" The girl answered: "I am not a spirit. Probably, are you spirits?" The oldest man said: "We are not spirits, [but] real human." ”

Another interesting example of the special shamanic usage and its contribution to relexicalization:[40]
“ Relexicalization is commonly found in cases where native terms were restricted in use, as in old shamanic terms, or became obsolète as a resuit of modernization or technological changes. Thus, in West Greenlandic, an old shamanic term agiaq 'rubbing stone' has become 'violin.'

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Do you think a shaman could erase his mind completely?
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Do you think a shaman could erase his mind completely?
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forget who they are?
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Do you think a shaman could erase his mind completely?
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forget who they are?
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This is quite difficult even with chemical/electrical intervention


A 'mere' loss of socially-imposed identity is more feasible....

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I think that is what we get in Donald Scott's filaments. In his paper, Dr. Scott focused on how Marklund convection could work with his model to get ions flowing down the filament at radii where the magnetic field is axial. It's the opposite extreme that is more interesting here. What happens if ions drift inward to the filament axis, and reach a radius where the field becomes more azimuthal? The effect of the magnetic field would be to slow the flow of these ions down the filament,and get them to circle the filament at that point. We are getting to the end of one "sausage". By stopping this first wave of ions from flowing down the filament, we reduce the magnetic field downstream, meaning Marklund convection does not continue to bring ions in at the same rate. Ions downstream can "hang out" longer at a radius where the field is more axial,and are free to travel down the filament at a faster rate. Which leads to a rebuilding of current,which leads to stronger magnetic fields....until the whole cycle starts again. The point here is that the electric field causing the flow of ions down the filament, stays more uniform, but the magnetic field of the filament keeps changing. That is how we get the electric field and magnetic field 'taking turns'.
An interesting thing here, is that if we bring in ions to where the field is azimuthal, it not only pinches off the current, but leaves us with a ring of ions circling at that point. That sounds like the makings of a pinched off plasma torus.
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what pisses me off about me in my case is that somehow being at higher vibration get me in trouble... i get harrased by the many demons that are still trying to pull me down... but if i stay neutral it's calmer and more peaceful..

I don't know if angels really help those who pray them, but in my case when i make the deliberate decision to feel beter, i get nightmares and visions of being attacked by demons...with loud crackling electricty noises.

Im tired of these fucking demons, but what i hate the most is having the feeling to be ignored by those i love...
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
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Do you think a shaman could erase his mind completely?
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forget who they are?
 Quoting: aether


Forget who they are exactly, from his standpoint on a search for his spirit half so he can bring it to this plane of existence.
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Do you think a shaman could erase his mind completely?
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forget who they are?
 Quoting: aether


This is quite difficult even with chemical/electrical intervention


A 'mere' loss of socially-imposed identity is more feasible....
 Quoting: pi


You have to physically scar the memory tissue, painful. Scar tissue helps cushion the brain from the electricity flowing from the pineal glande we are talking about.
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Do you think a shaman could erase his mind completely?
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forget who they are?
 Quoting: aether


This is quite difficult even with chemical/electrical intervention


A 'mere' loss of socially-imposed identity is more feasible....
 Quoting: pi


You have to physically scar the memory tissue, painful. Scar tissue helps cushion the brain from the electricity flowing from the pineal glande we are talking about.
 Quoting: HilosPP


That sounds right, ya.

RE: Pineal gland....

I think it's more a conductor than the actual source of electricity. Not sure if that's what you meant, tho'.
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forget who they are?
 Quoting: aether


This is quite difficult even with chemical/electrical intervention


A 'mere' loss of socially-imposed identity is more feasible....
 Quoting: pi


You have to physically scar the memory tissue, painful. Scar tissue helps cushion the brain from the electricity flowing from the pineal glande we are talking about.
 Quoting: HilosPP


That sounds right, ya.

RE: Pineal gland....

I think it's more a conductor than the actual source of electricity. Not sure if that's what you meant, tho'.
 Quoting: pi


Well phrased, its the gateway to the spirit world. It's why humans are envied and hated.
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We all posses the ability to fly.


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Good morning everyone.


The snow has finally melted and the Sun is shining.

I have to say, after experiencing negative temperatures for the first time, and for days, 'cold' feels different to me now.

32F no longer feels cold...like it did. I spoke to another artist yesterday and she mentioned having the same reaction.

Either way...
sun
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This is quite difficult even with chemical/electrical intervention


A 'mere' loss of socially-imposed identity is more feasible....
 Quoting: pi


You have to physically scar the memory tissue, painful. Scar tissue helps cushion the brain from the electricity flowing from the pineal glande we are talking about.
 Quoting: HilosPP


That sounds right, ya.

RE: Pineal gland....

I think it's more a conductor than the actual source of electricity. Not sure if that's what you meant, tho'.
 Quoting: pi


Well phrased, its the gateway to the spirit world. It's why humans are envied and hated.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Interesting indeed.... I hadn't previously considered that angle.

I've always speculated that DMT produced there will 'stack' with KundalinI(/cerebrospinal fluid surge) in the right psychological circumstances; this is what I've seen referenced as 'Samadhi'.
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You can do anything with a humans DNA, even considering it isn't properly sequenced and ascended.

They are going to start body hopping to the weak minded; its really easy for beings like that.
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Good morning everyone.


The snow has finally melted and the Sun is shining.

I have to say, after experiencing negative temperatures for the first time, and for days, 'cold' feels different to me now.

32F no longer feels cold...like it did. I spoke to another artist yesterday and she mentioned having the same reaction.

Either way...
sun
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Haha, brahmas do stuff like that to learn physical objectivity the spiritual subjectivity.
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Good morning everyone.


The snow has finally melted and the Sun is shining.

I have to say, after experiencing negative temperatures for the first time, and for days, 'cold' feels different to me now.

32F no longer feels cold...like it did. I spoke to another artist yesterday and she mentioned having the same reaction.

Either way...
sun
 Quoting: Seer777


Haha, brahmas do stuff like that to learn physical objectivity the spiritual subjectivity.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Thru Spiritual Subjectivity, sorry. Glad you are warm.
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Good morning everyone.


The snow has finally melted and the Sun is shining.

I have to say, after experiencing negative temperatures for the first time, and for days, 'cold' feels different to me now.

32F no longer feels cold...like it did. I spoke to another artist yesterday and she mentioned having the same reaction.

Either way...
sun
 Quoting: Seer777


It's super icy here.....

But nicely warm otherwise.

Quite nice.


....and I'm a Canadian, so acclimatization times are naturally quite ephemeral anyways

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12/16/2013 01:23 PM

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Good morning everyone.


The snow has finally melted and the Sun is shining.

I have to say, after experiencing negative temperatures for the first time, and for days, 'cold' feels different to me now.

32F no longer feels cold...like it did. I spoke to another artist yesterday and she mentioned having the same reaction.

Either way...
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Haha, brahmas do stuff like that to learn physical objectivity the spiritual subjectivity.
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Yes.

I have more than one reason I do said.

I called it 'cold conditioning' last Winter. It would occasionally take hours to -re-warm even under the covers in bed.

I find it occasionally necessary so as not to become overwhelmed by energy. As it is slowed down significantly, when one is cold.


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12/16/2013 01:24 PM
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You can do anything with a humans DNA, even considering it isn't properly sequenced and ascended.

They are going to start body hopping to the weak minded; its really easy for beings like that.
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I've always wondered how I'd know the difference were I in fact a 'victim' of 'body hopping'.





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