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The term "Nephilim" occurs just twice in the Hebrew Bible, both in the Torah. The first is Genesis 6:1–4 NAS, immediately before the story of Noah's ark:

“ Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. ”

The second is Numbers 13:32–33 NAS, where the Twelve Spies report that they have seen fearsome giants in Canaan:

“ So they gave out to the sons of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, "The land through which we had gone, in spying it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants; and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great size. There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight
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well the nephilim do not take up a lot of text in the bible
and i do not see much ambiguity in what the bible says on the topic
 Quoting: aether


Idk but this seems a similar story to me

Here is a Lakota story. I think it might pertain because of the up down.

There are several Fallen Star stories and this is one.

"Long, long ago, two young Lakota women were out one night looking at the stars. One young woman said "See that big beautiful star. I wish I could marry it." The other woman said the same about another star. Suddenly, they are transported into the star world, and there these two stars become their husbands. The wives become pregnant. They are told this star world is theirs, but also warned not to dig any wild turnips.

Eventually one of them does, and as she pulls out the turnip, a hole opens in the star world. She is able to look down and see the earth, and even her own village. She becomes homesick and decides to return to earth. She braids more and more turnips to make a rope and lets herself down through the hole. But the braid doesn't reach the earth and she falls. The crash kills her, but her baby is born. The baby is raised by a meadowlark. Since meadowlarks speak Lakota, the baby, now named "Fallen Star", grows up speaking it, too.

Fallen Star matures rapidly-in days rather than years. He is taller than normal and a light emanates from him. The meadowlark grows old and takes him to a Lakota band where he settles for awhile.

Fallen Star, the protector, the bringer of light and higher consciousness, travels from one Lakota band to another, and everywhere he is recognized, expected, and reverenced.

At one point, a band is camped near Harney Peak in the Black Hills. Every day a "red eagle" swoops down and steals a girl-child, carries her to the mountain top and kills her. The men try to shoot the "red eagle", but fail. They pray for Fallen Star and after seven days (and after seven girls have been killed), he arrives. He shoots the eagle, and places the spirits of the seven girls in teh sky as a constellation-pleiades--in Lakota, wicincala sakowin--"seven little girls"."

-Lakota Star Knowledge by Ronald Goodman
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 Quoting: Fancypantz


now is that not a nicer story altogether
and
noticing the bible is clear what nephilim are
we may consider the notion of people from the sky (other solar systems) that may have fallen in love with gaia women, when it occurred the consequences for all people of gaia was protective love was shown by their offspring for the people of gaia whom the offspring had become

so where do these heresies arsise with christian believers and who is the cause of these heresies in the name of nephilim
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not so, once againn it was a fixture in judaism at the time of Christ. most christians think its the work of heretics or the devil himself.
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no it wasn't.

this is bullshit Christians make up.

the Christian version of the book of enoch does not trace back to second temple Judea.

some parts of the book of enoch have been found in the dead sea scrolls and they don't resemble the Christian fabrication of it.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
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no disrespect, but when it comes to you, I just don't know when your cynical or serious.

anyway I guess I was drawn inorder to reply to that, and now I'd leave you gaianes alone (thought I disagree greatly with much of what is being said here but it would be futile to fight against it)
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


hi

he was being serious dude, did you ask your Rabbi what we spoke of?
 Quoting: orbs 1088558


no, I already know what he would say, which I just have to continue my studies and reach it when I reach it, no shortcuts.

also I asked him regarding my kundalini and he gave me a very short answer, which lead me to this.

ive had spontaneous kundalini... which i fear may have harmed me, i do believe it is demonic, untill proven otherwise.

anyway, ive talked to my rabbi about it, so he told me to do "shma yisrael" prayer.

few days later ive felt energies running across my body again, so i did the "shmah" call

ive felt the energy going down with each word, it started from the pineal gland and went all the way down to my rectum.

i still feel connected. but i believe i may have reversed kundalini.

anyway, the way across the tree of life is downwards. upwards like kundalini is demonic.

anyway ive told my rabbi about what had happened, he smiled and asked if it went down to YESOD. im not an expert so said i dont know.
 Quoting: DPS

Thread: REVERSED KUNDALINI
please ignore my obvious ignorance... this post was made a very long time ago.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


That is interesting, downwards Kundalini I mean.

Has anyone else here experienced downwards kundalini, I am always pulling energy up.
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


ive learned it can be done by the power of intention, though I had no such intention when I did shema.

also when it reaches the lower chakra it goes straight back to the head chakra (or sefira)
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no it wasn't.

this is bullshit Christians make up.

the Christian version of the book of enoch does not trace back to second temple Judea.

some parts of the book of enoch have been found in the dead sea scrolls and they don't resemble the Christian fabrication of it.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I find these cults to be remnants of pagan cults trying to exist under the shadow of J.
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no disrespect, but when it comes to you, I just don't know when your cynical or serious.

anyway I guess I was drawn inorder to reply to that, and now I'd leave you gaianes alone (thought I disagree greatly with much of what is being said here but it would be futile to fight against it)
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


hi

he was being serious dude, did you ask your Rabbi what we spoke of?
 Quoting: orbs 1088558


no, I already know what he would say, which I just have to continue my studies and reach it when I reach it, no shortcuts.

also I asked him regarding my kundalini and he gave me a very short answer, which lead me to this.

ive had spontaneous kundalini... which i fear may have harmed me, i do believe it is demonic, untill proven otherwise.

anyway, ive talked to my rabbi about it, so he told me to do "shma yisrael" prayer.

few days later ive felt energies running across my body again, so i did the "shmah" call

ive felt the energy going down with each word, it started from the pineal gland and went all the way down to my rectum.

i still feel connected. but i believe i may have reversed kundalini.

anyway, the way across the tree of life is downwards. upwards like kundalini is demonic.

anyway ive told my rabbi about what had happened, he smiled and asked if it went down to YESOD. im not an expert so said i dont know.
 Quoting: DPS

Thread: REVERSED KUNDALINI
please ignore my obvious ignorance... this post was made a very long time ago.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


That is interesting, downwards Kundalini I mean.

Has anyone else here experienced downwards kundalini, I am always pulling energy up.
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


In the realm of todays science, it is ionic and cationic process. Spin baby spin.
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no disrespect, but when it comes to you, I just don't know when your cynical or serious.

anyway I guess I was drawn inorder to reply to that, and now I'd leave you gaianes alone (thought I disagree greatly with much of what is being said here but it would be futile to fight against it)
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


hi

he was being serious dude, did you ask your Rabbi what we spoke of?
 Quoting: orbs 1088558


no, I already know what he would say, which I just have to continue my studies and reach it when I reach it, no shortcuts.

also I asked him regarding my kundalini and he gave me a very short answer, which lead me to this.

ive had spontaneous kundalini... which i fear may have harmed me, i do believe it is demonic, untill proven otherwise.

anyway, ive talked to my rabbi about it, so he told me to do "shma yisrael" prayer.

few days later ive felt energies running across my body again, so i did the "shmah" call

ive felt the energy going down with each word, it started from the pineal gland and went all the way down to my rectum.

i still feel connected. but i believe i may have reversed kundalini.

anyway, the way across the tree of life is downwards. upwards like kundalini is demonic.

anyway ive told my rabbi about what had happened, he smiled and asked if it went down to YESOD. im not an expert so said i dont know.
 Quoting: DPS

Thread: REVERSED KUNDALINI
please ignore my obvious ignorance... this post was made a very long time ago.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


That is interesting, downwards Kundalini I mean.

Has anyone else here experienced downwards kundalini, I am always pulling energy up.
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


yes, i often experience it going down, top to bottom
bottom to top is a different experience
seems to depend on the topic and what environmental forces i am within kundalini with

i don`t ever consciously think about it one way or another , as in: top to bottom or bottom to top
i don`t think about direction at all other then notice the direction at the time
moment to moment is the feeling
whatever happens fits the happening
it seems to me
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no it wasn't.

this is bullshit Christians make up.

the Christian version of the book of enoch does not trace back to second temple Judea.

some parts of the book of enoch have been found in the dead sea scrolls and they don't resemble the Christian fabrication of it.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


i see
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Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


I find these cults to be remnants of pagan cults trying to exist under the shadow of J.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


Okay, but judaic thought was hellenized. Even modern day circumcision practices mandated by maimonides were because of the transition to hellenism.

Heck, I'm an unwashed Keltoi, a pure pagan, that I know doctrines were changed simply because of military strength.

Nothing is pure.
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no it wasn't.

this is bullshit Christians make up.

the Christian version of the book of enoch does not trace back to second temple Judea.

some parts of the book of enoch have been found in the dead sea scrolls and they don't resemble the Christian fabrication of it.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


So basically their beliefs at the time distorted the actual memory?
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hi

he was being serious dude, did you ask your Rabbi what we spoke of?
 Quoting: orbs 1088558


no, I already know what he would say, which I just have to continue my studies and reach it when I reach it, no shortcuts.

also I asked him regarding my kundalini and he gave me a very short answer, which lead me to this.

ive had spontaneous kundalini... which i fear may have harmed me, i do believe it is demonic, untill proven otherwise.

anyway, ive talked to my rabbi about it, so he told me to do "shma yisrael" prayer.

few days later ive felt energies running across my body again, so i did the "shmah" call

ive felt the energy going down with each word, it started from the pineal gland and went all the way down to my rectum.

i still feel connected. but i believe i may have reversed kundalini.

anyway, the way across the tree of life is downwards. upwards like kundalini is demonic.

anyway ive told my rabbi about what had happened, he smiled and asked if it went down to YESOD. im not an expert so said i dont know.
 Quoting: DPS

Thread: REVERSED KUNDALINI
please ignore my obvious ignorance... this post was made a very long time ago.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


That is interesting, downwards Kundalini I mean.

Has anyone else here experienced downwards kundalini, I am always pulling energy up.
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


yes, i often experience it going down, top to bottom
bottom to top is a different experience
seems to depend on the topic and what environmental forces i am within kundalini with

i don`t ever consciously think about it one way or another , as in: top to bottom or bottom to top
i don`t think about direction at all other then notice the direction at the time
moment to moment is the feeling
whatever happens fits the happening
it seems to me
 Quoting: aether


Yes recall I told you in PM of pulling it in third eye going down through chakras to root then up to crown, like a saxaphone.

Yet the end is up, always seeking the crown lol.
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In the realm of todays science, it is ionic and cationic process. Spin baby spin.
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The spin I do with my intent, the energy movement I do with breath.

When I can be bothered hahahaha
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[link to www.ibiblio.org]

The Book of Enoch is a pseudoepigraphal work (a work that claims to be by a biblical character). The Book of Enoch was not included in either the Hebrew or most Christian biblical canons, but could have been considered a sacred text by the sectarians. The original Aramaic version was lost until the Dead Sea fragements were discovered.
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ive learned it can be done by the power of intention, though I had no such intention when I did shema.

also when it reaches the lower chakra it goes straight back to the head chakra (or sefira)
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Yes, I call it the saxophone.

In through eye down to root zoom up to crown.
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Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


So basically their beliefs at the time distorted the actual memory?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Gnosticism drew on earlier theorem to unite thought through philosophic practice.
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Which christian version,the kjv?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


no.
book of enoch.
the ones available to read online are not THE book of enoch.
 Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2


The apochrypha and book of enoch are later gnostic cult writings about 3 -400 bc. These are the mushroom cults and have little to do with orthodoxy.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


So basically their beliefs at the time distorted the actual memory?
 Quoting: Fancypantz


yes this book of enoch is very new in context of the topic

Book of Enoch

The older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) are estimated to date from about 300 BC, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably was composed at the end of the 1st century BC
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

why wait several hundred years to write something that is important
looks like an insert to prompt fear

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despite aether pleas to stay, 184 was banned.
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In the realm of todays science, it is ionic and cationic process. Spin baby spin.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


The spin I do with my intent, the energy movement I do with breath.

When I can be bothered hahahaha
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


Lol, no worries, not being serious is next to godliness.
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Yes recall I told you in PM of pulling it in third eye going down through chakras to root then up to crown, like a saxaphone.

Yet the end is up, always seeking the crown lol.
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yes i do, i am saying my attitude and experience of kundalini

i don`t think about it by nature and do talk about it when others do
to me it is the visible sign of altered state thus the degree of kundalini i notice is , to me, sensitive to the topic and environmental energy that is joining me within the topic (synergy) prompting my altered state (logos)
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despite aether pleas to stay, 184 was banned.
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2014-01-30 22:13:25 53640506 Anonymous Coward troll
2014-01-31 17:00:17 53688756 Anonymous Coward troll
2014-02-01 20:41:53 53726147 Anonymous Coward troll

not unless he changed ip to 147
if he did i will un ban him
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Does everyone have some kind of sleep disorder in limeyland? Last time I was there the pubs were an 11 pm affair and the clubs did it in at 1.

Que paso?
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why wait several hundred years to write something that is important
looks like an insert to prompt fear
 Quoting: aether



Unless that is a tradition. Like the Catholics for example:

In 1983, Pope John Paul II made sweeping changes in the canonization procedure. The process begins after the death of a Catholic whom people regard as holy. Often, the process starts many years after death in order give perspective on the candidate. The local bishop investigates the candidate's life and writings for heroic virtue (or martyrdom) and orthodoxy of doctrine. Then a panel of theologians at the Vatican evaluates the candidate. After approval by the panel and cardinals of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, the pope proclaims the candidate "venerable."
[link to www.catholic.org]

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Does everyone have some kind of sleep disorder in limeyland? Last time I was there the pubs were an 11 pm affair and the clubs did it in at 1.

Que paso?
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nope we are 24/7 now
i can walk from here and be in a selection of bars anytime up to say 06.00
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Does everyone have some kind of sleep disorder in limeyland? Last time I was there the pubs were an 11 pm affair and the clubs did it in at 1.

Que paso?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Things have changed, in London their is always somewhere open to drink if you want, clubs stay open till 6/7 am if you know where to go and you have the morning raves, after parties, lol some pubs open at 8/9am.

I have not been sleeping much lately.
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Too late. She thrust her head into our topic, and opened her mouth and gave her weird ass opinion.
 Quoting: Septenary


there was nothing wrong with her response, you just didn't like at and threw tissy fit.....? please feel free to share in the current topic if you have an opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49892184


lol.
 Quoting: Seer777


Why aether is the only one to enjoy you, Seer, is beyond me. Brian is one who's opinions and thoughts I value very much so. But why he defends you and the times you purposefully antagonize situations, I will NEVER understand. You are so obvious, I do not see why he turns a blind eye to your actions, and actually defends them as well.

He has his reasons, and I respect him for it. But, that's as far as you'll go with me now. Burnt me one too many times. Enjoy the fruits you have sown.
 Quoting: Septenary


i think that is harsh sept and you will feel different later on the topic
 Quoting: aether


Harsh, probably. With Seer though, my statements stand. All you have to do is look back at that thread last night and read what went on. 5 minutes is all it would take, and you would see that Seer was full of shit saying it was a troll's opinion. That was a straight faced, bold lie. She knows.

I am sure you know it and read it already (btw). So why not confront Seer's lying post, rather than confronting me? Because she is female. Could be wrong, but I doubt that I am. Oh, probably just my opinion that I am acting on as if it is truth.
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Does everyone have some kind of sleep disorder in limeyland? Last time I was there the pubs were an 11 pm affair and the clubs did it in at 1.

Que paso?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Things have changed, in London their is always somewhere open to drink if you want, clubs stay open till 6/7 am if you know where to go and you have the morning raves, after parties, lol some pubs open at 8/9am.

I have not been sleeping much lately.
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I haven't been eating...

Man eats their artists. Or watches as they consume themselves...

Cheers.
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It just sucks that you have taken the non-bias out of your thinking.

I know it feels better to you to get emotionally involved like you have, but it distorts your reasoning side.
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why wait several hundred years to write something that is important
looks like an insert to prompt fear
 Quoting: aether



Unless that is a tradition. Like the Catholics for example:

In 1983, Pope John Paul II made sweeping changes in the canonization procedure. The process begins after the death of a Catholic whom people regard as holy. Often, the process starts many years after death in order give perspective on the candidate. The local bishop investigates the candidate's life and writings for heroic virtue (or martyrdom) and orthodoxy of doctrine. Then a panel of theologians at the Vatican evaluates the candidate. After approval by the panel and cardinals of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, the pope proclaims the candidate "venerable."
[link to www.catholic.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


yes that is a good point
revelation
it is what we are utilizing now especially with the younger believers pressing to divorce the church from the old testament in some form

New Covenant
Generally, Christians believe that the New Covenant was instituted at the Last Supper as part of the Eucharist, which in the Gospel of John includes the New Commandment.
 Quoting: church

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why wait several hundred years to write something that is important
looks like an insert to prompt fear
 Quoting: aether



Unless that is a tradition. Like the Catholics for example:

In 1983, Pope John Paul II made sweeping changes in the canonization procedure. The process begins after the death of a Catholic whom people regard as holy. Often, the process starts many years after death in order give perspective on the candidate. The local bishop investigates the candidate's life and writings for heroic virtue (or martyrdom) and orthodoxy of doctrine. Then a panel of theologians at the Vatican evaluates the candidate. After approval by the panel and cardinals of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, the pope proclaims the candidate "venerable."
[link to www.catholic.org]
 Quoting: Fancypantz


Lol, every doctrine, no matter what religion, is a question of true believers making a foray into one form of extremism or another.

I love my familial situation because due to our proclivities every religiosity is reflected in our blood line. It leads to ferocious debate.

My favorite christiqn ideologues are excommunicated jews. My favourite humans are secular monstrosities believing in ecclesiastical freedom.

As I've often said one delmits the other. One and other being poles. Swearing alleigiance to intransigence is my only enemy.
Dionysian Fullaflattus

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02/01/2014 09:43 PM

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It just sucks that you have taken the non-bias out of your thinking.

I know it feels better to you to get emotionally involved like you have, but it distorts your reasoning side.
 Quoting: Septenary


Well, fqrk u...i called and no answer.
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there was nothing wrong with her response, you just didn't like at and threw tissy fit.....? please feel free to share in the current topic if you have an opinion.
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lol.
 Quoting: Seer777


Why aether is the only one to enjoy you, Seer, is beyond me. Brian is one who's opinions and thoughts I value very much so. But why he defends you and the times you purposefully antagonize situations, I will NEVER understand. You are so obvious, I do not see why he turns a blind eye to your actions, and actually defends them as well.

He has his reasons, and I respect him for it. But, that's as far as you'll go with me now. Burnt me one too many times. Enjoy the fruits you have sown.
 Quoting: Septenary


i think that is harsh sept and you will feel different later on the topic
 Quoting: aether


Harsh, probably. With Seer though, my statements stand. All you have to do is look back at that thread last night and read what went on. 5 minutes is all it would take, and you would see that Seer was full of shit saying it was a troll's opinion. That was a straight faced, bold lie. She knows.

I am sure you know it and read it already (btw). So why not confront Seer's lying post, rather than confronting me? Because she is female. Could be wrong, but I doubt that I am. Oh, probably just my opinion that I am acting on as if it is truth.
 Quoting: Septenary


well maybe i am missing something but i believe seer does not say what she does not mean
and i think her motive is to have a conversation on the topic whatever the motive is of the poster
and she will stay on the topic to do so
i see her point
she does not get the same effect from the poster motive as you or i do
i see it like that

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