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Thanks for this information and other talkers for the discussion :)

Has anybody looked at what this means for Quasars or other intrinsically high redshift objects, that is if we assume these things exist a la Arp et al.?
 Quoting: NASA themis 16th Oct 2012


that`s a first tounge
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As far back as 1986, Emil Wolf was applying the Wolf effect to quasars. There still seems to be quite a bit of interest in that topic even all these years later

Keep in mind that Holushko's work is a "generic" application of *all* tired light/plasma redshift mechanisms. It could be further refined over time to include specific redshift effects for specific objects/circumstances. Holushko's paper scares the hell out of the mainstream by they way. I've yet to have anyone pick out any flaws in his work, and I've yet to see anyone take any serious swipes at it yet. I think Holushko's generic approach is a "strong" approach because it benefits from every form of plasma redshift we discover. The mainsteam can't even tell us a source of dark energy, and Holushko's work demonstrates why. They left off important features of plasma physics from Lambda-CDM theory, specifically they forgot about signal broadening and plasma redshift. Since they didn't include these known features of plasma physics, they need placeholder terms for human ignorance, specifically their ignorance of plasma redshift.
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Holushko's paper scares the hell out of the mainstream by they way
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After a decade of analysis of experimental and observational evidence I came to the following outlook:

Aether exists
Theories of Relativity are false
There are no relativistic contraction, time slowdown or mass increase
Space is tridimensional and rectilinear, it does not curve
“Spacetime” is nonsense
Physical constants are not constant
There is no “wave-particle” dualism
Photons do not have gravitational mass
Universe does not expand
Big Bang never happened
There is no “dark energy”
Gravitation lensing is an artefact (the lensing is thermal)
Equivalence principle is not universal
Motion relative to aether can be detected
Gravitational shielding is possible
Aether-reaction thrust is possible
 Quoting: Holushko

[link to www.holushko.net]

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Holushko's paper scares the hell out of the mainstream by they way
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After a decade of analysis of experimental and observational evidence I came to the following outlook:

Aether exists
Theories of Relativity are false
There are no relativistic contraction, time slowdown or mass increase
Space is tridimensional and rectilinear, it does not curve
“Spacetime” is nonsense
Physical constants are not constant
There is no “wave-particle” dualism
Photons do not have gravitational mass
Universe does not expand
Big Bang never happened
There is no “dark energy”
Gravitation lensing is an artefact (the lensing is thermal)
Equivalence principle is not universal
Motion relative to aether can be detected
Gravitational shielding is possible
Aether-reaction thrust is possible
 Quoting: Holushko

[link to www.holushko.net]

whistle
 Quoting: aether


Whoa!!! Gravitational shielding is possible

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 Quoting: aether


:)

floweroflife

"Only in added dimension can it be seen properly"

~0



Good morning all.

coffee4
 Quoting: Seer777


Exactly, Six trumpets in each of the 3d cubes(hexagons). The circles being symbols of potential expansion.

Do you remember asking me why six?
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Exactly, Six trumpets in each of the 3d cubes(hexagons). The circles being symbols of potential expansion.

Do you remember asking me why six?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


hmm

No...

tounge




"I seem to have a knack for forgetting."




I use to write this often...

--->0<---

Which was my way of explaining the 6 around 1...

Leading of course to the Seed of Life.

floweroflife




Then there is the 616...

Or 12 around 1 which I find just as intriguing.

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Exactly, Six trumpets in each of the 3d cubes(hexagons). The circles being symbols of potential expansion.

Do you remember asking me why six?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


hmm

No...

tounge




"I seem to have a knack for forgetting."




I use to write this often...

--->0<---

Which was my way of explaining the 6 around 1...

Leading of course to the Seed of Life.

floweroflife




Then there is the 616...

Or 12 around 1 which I find just as intriguing.

The Eggof Life
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It is at the same time the concavity and convexity of the skein. No worries, I seldom forget.

Cheers!
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Put it on the right track, get it right back
A message from my heart is too loud to stay apart
So put it on the right track, steal it right back
It's high time now

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grouphug

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Seer, you need not credit me with quotations. If you make them words yours, they are yours. Keep them by giving them away. I have no copy right and desire no credit. You need not use an outside source for validation. If it rings true, let it be yours.

Take care evrryone.

All is well

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Seer, you need not credit me with quotations. If you make them words yours, they are yours. Keep them by giving them away. I have no copy right and desire no credit. You need not use an outside source for validation. If it rings true, let it be yours.

Take care evrryone.

All is well

0
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peace I think it's on the right track :) Have a good day 0!

hf
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Put it on the right track, get it right back
A message from my heart is too loud to stay apart
So put it on the right track, steal it right back
It's high time now

abduct



grouphug

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
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Put it on the right track, get it right back
A message from my heart is too loud to stay apart
So put it on the right track, steal it right back
It's high time now

abduct



grouphug

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


it`s the egypt in you rockon
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Seer, you need not credit me with quotations. If you make them words yours, they are yours. Keep them by giving them away. I have no copy right and desire no credit. You need not use an outside source for validation. If it rings true, let it be yours.

Take care evrryone.

All is well

0
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peace I think it's on the right track :) Have a good day 0!

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


0!=1
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
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on the right track rockon
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25560092


what symbol are you talking about AC?

hf
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Put it on the right track, get it right back
A message from my heart is too loud to stay apart
So put it on the right track, steal it right back
It's high time now

abduct



grouphug

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


it`s the egypt in you rockon
 Quoting: aether


tounge

chuckle

hf
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Seer, you need not credit me with quotations. If you make them words yours, they are yours. Keep them by giving them away. I have no copy right and desire no credit. You need not use an outside source for validation. If it rings true, let it be yours.

Take care evrryone.

All is well

0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25689708


peace I think it's on the right track :) Have a good day 0!

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


0!=1
Goofy Thum
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nice...lol

hf
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It is at the same time the concavity and convexity of the skein. No worries, I seldom forget.

Cheers!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Interesting.

I will chew on that for a while.



On another note...very good, as my Mind tends to wander and loses much which is not in my immediate focus.

There is often stimuli which I find exceedingly unpleasant or dangerous on this forum, so I force myself into forgetting by altering my focus.

By doing so, I often lose other bits as well...but they come back, if deemed important.


Consciousness immune system...or something like that.

tounge
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25560092


on the right track rockon
 Quoting: aether


I'm not now I'm lost again wth... chuckle

hf
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25560092


on the right track rockon
 Quoting: aether


I'm not now I'm lost again wth... chuckle

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


it follows w/f`s topics generally yesterday of symbol and sign becoming detached from original shapes and meaning over the era`s
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Seer, you need not credit me with quotations. If you make them words yours, they are yours. Keep them by giving them away. I have no copy right and desire no credit. You need not use an outside source for validation. If it rings true, let it be yours.

Take care evrryone.

All is well

0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25689708


:)

Credit where credit is due, love.

I am a creature of habit.


But thank you for your kind words and generous offer.

hugs


Speaking of a wandering Mind...

I was hoping to get thoughts on this.

I came back around to the Hydrogen Atom yesterday evening...



Maybe the 'two atoms' fell in love after all!

goofy thum

 Quoting: Uncle Mikey



tounge



O
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H H


triangle1

yinyang


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hmm



TheRipples

:)
 Quoting: Seer777



Ever notice a water molecule looks like Mikey Mouse?

tounge
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we take the signs back to their original shape and meaning via utilizing our recent discovered information providing us the baseline ingredients of material and non material reality so we can see matching origin of meaning when it is there to be seen no matter what the belief of meaning has become
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25560092


on the right track rockon
 Quoting: aether


I'm not now I'm lost again wth... chuckle

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


it follows w/f`s topics generally yesterday of symbol and sign becoming detached from original shapes and meaning over the era`s
 Quoting: aether


ooooh! Thank you very much for explaining that to me Aether hugs One more song...I was just chillin to this one...it's so peaceful and the video is awesome lol :)

Alpha 9 Bliss



hf
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25560092


what symbol are you talking about AC?

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


hey Angels....I posted it yesterday I think...the days seem to all be running together...lol

the caduceaus symbol is not one of healing but instead one that protects the merchants, shepherds, liars, gamblers and thieves...one could really look at it as the symbol for ill...for certainly it has been used as the opposite of healing...ill intent. psychic intent to steal healing energies and harness it to form their protection...they been stealing from you and from me and everyone else who believes/believed it was a sign for healing....

The rod of Ascepius is the true ancient symbol for the healing arts...

WF
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Speaking of a wandering Mind...

I was hoping to get thoughts on this.

I came back around to the Hydrogen Atom yesterday evening...

Ever notice a water molecule looks like Mikey Mouse?

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


it is your post before that feels interesting in meaning

Da troof... canz dey handle it?

unclemikey-282
 Quoting: Uncle Mikey


Interesting Mikey.

I was discussing Hydrogen at length yesterday...

...


I see a mirror with a fulcrum center spinning between.

 Quoting: Seer777


Instantly coming to mind is, balance. The balance leads to motion within its 'center'.
 Quoting: Saptaparna

 Quoting: Saptaparna


:)


Interesting to note perhaps and I am being pulled to relate this with something which came up on another thread.

The Hydrogen Atom.



:)Me too. I have a glass of water with half of lemon juice in the morning on an empty stomach. I add a spoon of Manuka Honey to the mixture because medical world says that cancer thrives in an acidic environment and can't live in an alkaline environment. What if they lie to us and it's the opposite? Could there be some connection to OP answer?

When our blood is acidic, the pH, or "potential" of Hydrogen (H+) is low, that is, there are hydrogen atoms that dissociate with it's related halogen. A hydrogen atom is an atom of the chemical element hydrogen.


The electrically neutral atom contains a single positively-charged proton and a single negatively-charged (Ying and Yang)...


Hydroxide (pOH) seems to allow for even more of an oxygen rich environment to which cancer has a hard time dealing with. Oxygen is involved and one of OP's clue was (Inward first and outward)...

Maybe the answer lies in cancer with connection to oxygen, breading...
 Quoting: Kinga 23570095


:)


Very nice Kinga.

This is awesome...


Hydrogen is the lightest element. It is by far the most abundant element in the universe and makes up about about 90% of the universe by weight.


Hydrogen as water (H2O) is absolutely essential to life and it is present in all organic compounds. Hydrogen is the lightest gas. Hydrogen gas was used in lighter-than-air balloons for transport but is far too dangerous because of the fire risk (Hindenburg).


It burns in air to form only water as waste product



and if hydrogen could be made on sufficient scale from other than fossil fuels then there might be a possibility of a hydrogen economy.

Note that while hydrogen is normally shown at the top of the Group 1 elements in the periodic table, the term "alkaline metal" refers to the Group 1 elements from lithium downwards and not hydrogen.


[link to www.webelements.com]

 Quoting: Seer777



yinyang
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It burns in air to form only water as waste product

feels like aether process in code
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we take the signs back to their original shape and meaning via utilizing our recent discovered information providing us the baseline ingredients of material and non material reality so we can see matching origin of meaning when it is there to be seen no matter what the belief of meaning has become
 Quoting: aether


so by acknowledging this...the true origin and meaning shall become apparent soon?

wf
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hmmm...that weighs heavy on my hearthf

knowing the truth of a symbol and the ill intent used with it...by knowing this...takes back what was stolen by the thiefs...the true symbol will heal the wounds inflicted...and they will no longer have the protection the ill one gave them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25560092


what symbol are you talking about AC?

hf
 Quoting: ~Angels~


hey Angels....I posted it yesterday I think...the days seem to all be running together...lol

the caduceaus symbol is not one of healing but instead one that protects the merchants, shepherds, liars, gamblers and thieves...one could really look at it as the symbol for ill...for certainly it has been used as the opposite of healing...ill intent. psychic intent to steal healing energies and harness it to form their protection...they been stealing from you and from me and everyone else who believes/believed it was a sign for healing....

The rod of Ascepius is the true ancient symbol for the healing arts...

WF
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Hello WF :) I didn't know that was you...I'm horrible with the AC numbers lol

Between you and Aether explaining things I understand now. Your right...all things always return to thier rightful place is how I feel :)

hugs

hf
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symbolic today of 2 snakes being crushed




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symbolic today of 2 snakes being crushed




Thread: The Crow
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trolls are gonna troll :P

You see through the tricks...how sad she needs to feed so she goes ac...

chuckle
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Seer, you need not credit me with quotations. If you make them words yours, they are yours. Keep them by giving them away. I have no copy right and desire no credit. You need not use an outside source for validation. If it rings true, let it be yours.

Take care evrryone.

All is well

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:)

Credit where credit is due, love.

I am a creature of habit.


But thank you for your kind words and generous offer.

hugs


Speaking of a wandering Mind...

I was hoping to get thoughts on this.

I came back around to the Hydrogen Atom yesterday evening...



Maybe the 'two atoms' fell in love after all!

goofy thum

 Quoting: Uncle Mikey



tounge



O
/ \
H H


triangle1

yinyang


[link to thumbs.dreamstime.com]

hmm



TheRipples

:)
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Ever notice a water molecule looks like Mikey Mouse?

tounge
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Yes they do. lol
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