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if you do not know your history before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause
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predilection
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knowing why and how feelings feel is not demanded of predilection causing predilection to be effect not cause
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feels like a constant effect

a constant, like tensegrity always there never alone because they can never be there alone
which is nice never lonely

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you got to remember we are experiencing ancestors motivation in our present
stuff like materialism may turn out to a clever way to promote rough sex


we don`t know yet what is the motive to materialism but we are certain of this

physical sex only is the law of materialism

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OOPS, sorry I misattributed the above quote to aether, apologies there to Lovecrafts monster...

hf
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funny thing about paradoxes,You will have to love at least part, if not the whole;a little bit of love is all it takes to tame the monster
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pieces and creamz cookies
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I couldn't remember how to spell chtoulu (still can't)...
Good point on the "love at least part, if not the whole" that's a major lost art when it comes to humanities abilities to intake the whole/keep what matters/ filter the rest out- process of thought flow.
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i think the going rate for spellings of cthullu is at least 15 now! so long as you are spelling, you can never be wrong.go Left
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Very interesting synopsis! Similar conclusions were found as to the governments push about national flouride use and it's agressive implementations in public use.

Only to conclude decades later after more thourough research that negative impacts grossly outweigh any other found benefits in the first place.

Seems this scale of research really only trickles thru to public knowledge after like 35 years or so of government pushed and funded programs, before consumers finally make a change in purchase habits that make producers rethink either their sales strategies to keep money rolling in or they finally adopt the research and branch into a new products for the consumer directly.
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Very interesting synopsis! Similar conclusions were found as to the governments push about national flouride use and it's agressive implementations in public use.

Only to conclude decades later after more thourough research that negative impacts grossly outweigh any other found benefits in the first place.

Seems this scale of research really only trickles thru to public knowledge after like 35 years or so of government pushed and funded programs, before consumers finally make a change in purchase habits that make producers rethink either their sales strategies to keep money rolling in or they finally adopt the research and branch into a new products for the consumer directly.
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i see it is that time of the month



for star
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The range of severity for the 1/3 of women living within a mile of the spraying is a 60% increased rate of ASD. Which in itself begs a few questions because the test was conducted on persons living 1.25,1.5 and 1.75 km away. 1.5 km being the range most adversely affected. Not 1.25km

Link to the abstract of the original study the UC research and other articles derived from and a pdf link to the entire original study and corresponding supplemental information .
[link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]




More supporting info here: [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]

*snip
This “proof-of-principle” evidence for environmental causation is supported further by findings from prospective birth cohort epidemiological studies, many of them supported by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS). These studies enroll women during pregnancy, measure prenatal exposures in real time as they occur, and then follow children longitudinally with periodic direct examinations to assess growth, development, and the presence of disease. Prospective studies are powerful engines for the discovery of etiologic associations between prenatal exposures and NDDs. They have linked autistic behaviors with prenatal exposures to the organophosphate insecticide chlorpyrifos (Eskenazi et al. 2007) and also with prenatal exposures to phthalates (Miodovnik et al. 2011). Additional prospective studies have linked loss of cognition (IQ), dyslexia, and ADHD to lead (Jusko et al. 2008), methylmercury (Oken et al. 2008), organophosphate insecticides (London et al. 2012), organochlorine insecticides (Eskenazi et al. 2008), polychlorinated biphenyls (Winneke 2011), arsenic (Wasserman et al. 2007), manganese (Khan et al. 2011), polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (Perera et al. 2009), bisphenol A (Braun et al. 2011), brominated flame retardants (Herbstman et al. 2010), and perfluorinated compounds (Stein and Savitz 2011).
Toxic chemicals likely cause injury to the developing human brain either through direct toxicity or interactions with the genome. An expert committee convened by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) estimated that 3% of neurobehavioral disorders are caused directly by toxic environmental exposures and that another 25% are caused by interactions between environmental factors, defined broadly, and inherited susceptibilities (National Research Council 2000). Epigenetic modification of gene expression by toxic chemicals that results in DNA methylation, histone modification, or changes in activity levels of non-protein-coding RNA (ncRNAs) may be a mechanism of such gene–environment interaction (Grafodatskaya et al. 2010). Epigenetic “marks” have been shown to be able to influence gene expression and alter high-order DNA structure (Anway and Skinner 2006; Waterland and Jirtle 2004).




Relevant related study:
Organophosphate Pesticide Exposure and Attention in Young Mexican-American Children: The CHAMACOS Study:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

This study gives some hard numbers and concentrates on the ADHD aspects of being exposed to these toxins as opposed to ASD but touch on autism results acknowledging some children showing signs of PDD (pervasive developmental disorders ).





My synopsis?

Autism is kind of the perfect storm.
Looking back on how they likely tested these pesticide chemicals on animals what would the symptoms have been? The symptoms of autism are much like the instincts animals are already born with. Sensitivity to light, sound, vibration, trouble reading complex facial expressions sensitivity to touch and acute awareness of textures. All things animals already do naturally so would not be noticed as adverse side effects during the data collection of the tests. Add to that the symptoms in humans are typically not recognized until just before or at school age.

The only thing likely noticeable would have been intelligence either decreasing or increasing in some subjects in various degrees. Only the severe loss of intelligence or encumbered cognitive abilities being recorded as significant.

The same scenario applying to the testing of vaccinations as well I presume.

So years pass, crop yields explode in size. Billions are made. What to do? Time to apply the formula.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

At first the numbers were manageable, negligible. So full steam ahead with the implementation of the new miracle chemicals. Then, seemingly overnight, we have a situation quickly building towards and epidemic. The safe point for the cost/risk assessment eclipsed in the blink of an eye. Now research is being done and it is pointing towards the miracle chemicals that have stacked billions for the beneficiaries of there implementation. Pulling them would be an admission of guilt and would result in payouts so large and widespread it would bankrupt the giant global corporations that are ultimately responsible for there use.

To complicate things even further there is ample proof that autism in its various forms is genetic as well. So why are we seeing increases because of toxins and other environmental factors? Why are they both happening at once and why are chemicals causing a disorder that has evolved naturally in some humans to happen seemingly by force in others? Are genetic autistics and chemically induced autistics the same thing? If not what are the differences?

It seems almost biblical or destined in scope and nature. As if they were coming one way or the other.

But why and to what end? Even the aspect of some being high functioning and not being classifiable as having a disorder because of their adaptability, even though they have all the symptoms of autism that cause others to need medication or other assistance, makes a weird kind of sense. It is the classic mother nature scenario of adapt or die. A form of evolution. At least it meets the requirements and follows the same pattern of that scenario. (That should piss some ppl off)


Regardless of why this is happening it is happening and it has multiple causes that on the surface at least are not connected.
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I wish you would stop playing the intelligent naive card and tell us what you have figured out about what is going on instead of hinting at it all over the internet. You know a lot more than you let on.
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i see it is that time of the month

for star
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Yeah, I'm playing russian roulette with my banker again, don't upgrade me bro! It'll be back tomorrow...
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OOPS, sorry I misattributed the above quote to aether, apologies there to Lovecrafts monster...

hf
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LOVE-- Craft-- Monster...wow if that isn't an Oxy Moran
funny thing about paradoxes,You will have to love at least part, if not the whole;a little bit of love is all it takes to tame the monster
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pieces and creamz cookies
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I couldn't remember how to spell chtoulu (still can't)...
Good point on the "love at least part, if not the whole" that's a major lost art when it comes to humanities abilities to intake the whole/keep what matters/ filter the rest out- process of thought flow.
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i think the going rate for spellings of cthullu is at least 15 now! so long as you are spelling, you can never be wrong.go Left
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i saw that love craft monsters before when luna crossed posts and quoted that as me
nice avatar to
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i see it is that time of the month

for star
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Yeah, I'm playing russian roulette with my banker again, don't upgrade me bro! It'll be back tomorrow...
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okay cos i owe you a few thumbs
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go Left
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Now that's a great smilie... hf
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go Left
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Now that's a great smilie... hf
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i like it

when nothing goes right do it yourself

open source abduct
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go Left
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Now that's a great smilie... hf
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i like it

when nothing goes right do it yourself

open source abduct
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oh
no

sex

see

in my experience when i am wrong the consequences are far better than ever could have occurred were i to have been right

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so 24 days ago i negotiate a cash deal with my dentist because i want my teeth fixed to match the date i just got from passport office for my renewal date and my dentist is telling me i can only get 4 to 5 weeks work done co he is so busy in 21 if i accept his deal and i am happy i did
along the way he tells me that because i am such a nice man that causes him to feel nice he is performing a dentistry master piece on me and my next appoint which will be my 5 thus far is 7/3 at 2.00 pm
and
yesterday was the day for passport and nothing yet

i want to believe him but i think maybe i am getting 5 weeks work in 5 weeks
not the 21 day cash premium special
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I read this thread and thought "how cute, remarking on the nice teeth smile of their loved one"...and then come back here to read your above post...lol

Thread: To you, the love of my life. You know who u r
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I read this thread and thought "how cute, remarking on the nice teeth smile of their loved one"...and then come back here to read your above post...lol

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it is a emotion sensitive constant causing environmental acknowledgment (feedback) of/to the 3 of us
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i like it
you can tell how people get on if you want
all sorts of things i suppose
never thought really
who does
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i like it
you can tell how people get on if you want
all sorts of things i suppose
never thought really
who does
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could be a shuman res topic
we have not got to that yet
but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away
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The range of severity for the 1/3 of women living within a mile of the spraying is a 60% increased rate of ASD. Which in itself begs a few questions because the test was conducted on persons living 1.25,1.5 and 1.75 km away. 1.5 km being the range most adversely affected. Not 1.25km

Link to the abstract of the original study the UC research and other articles derived from and a pdf link to the entire original study and corresponding supplemental information .
[link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]




More supporting info here: [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]

*snip
This “proof-of-principle” evidence for environmental causation is supported further by findings from prospective birth cohort epidemiological studies, many of them supported by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS). These studies enroll women during pregnancy, measure prenatal exposures in real time as they occur, and then follow children longitudinally with periodic direct examinations to assess growth, development, and the presence of disease. Prospective studies are powerful engines for the discovery of etiologic associations between prenatal exposures and NDDs. They have linked autistic behaviors with prenatal exposures to the organophosphate insecticide chlorpyrifos (Eskenazi et al. 2007) and also with prenatal exposures to phthalates (Miodovnik et al. 2011). Additional prospective studies have linked loss of cognition (IQ), dyslexia, and ADHD to lead (Jusko et al. 2008), methylmercury (Oken et al. 2008), organophosphate insecticides (London et al. 2012), organochlorine insecticides (Eskenazi et al. 2008), polychlorinated biphenyls (Winneke 2011), arsenic (Wasserman et al. 2007), manganese (Khan et al. 2011), polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (Perera et al. 2009), bisphenol A (Braun et al. 2011), brominated flame retardants (Herbstman et al. 2010), and perfluorinated compounds (Stein and Savitz 2011).
Toxic chemicals likely cause injury to the developing human brain either through direct toxicity or interactions with the genome. An expert committee convened by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) estimated that 3% of neurobehavioral disorders are caused directly by toxic environmental exposures and that another 25% are caused by interactions between environmental factors, defined broadly, and inherited susceptibilities (National Research Council 2000). Epigenetic modification of gene expression by toxic chemicals that results in DNA methylation, histone modification, or changes in activity levels of non-protein-coding RNA (ncRNAs) may be a mechanism of such gene–environment interaction (Grafodatskaya et al. 2010). Epigenetic “marks” have been shown to be able to influence gene expression and alter high-order DNA structure (Anway and Skinner 2006; Waterland and Jirtle 2004).




Relevant related study:
Organophosphate Pesticide Exposure and Attention in Young Mexican-American Children: The CHAMACOS Study:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

This study gives some hard numbers and concentrates on the ADHD aspects of being exposed to these toxins as opposed to ASD but touch on autism results acknowledging some children showing signs of PDD (pervasive developmental disorders ).





My synopsis?

Autism is kind of the perfect storm.
Looking back on how they likely tested these pesticide chemicals on animals what would the symptoms have been? The symptoms of autism are much like the instincts animals are already born with. Sensitivity to light, sound, vibration, trouble reading complex facial expressions sensitivity to touch and acute awareness of textures. All things animals already do naturally so would not be noticed as adverse side effects during the data collection of the tests. Add to that the symptoms in humans are typically not recognized until just before or at school age.

The only thing likely noticeable would have been intelligence either decreasing or increasing in some subjects in various degrees. Only the severe loss of intelligence or encumbered cognitive abilities being recorded as significant.

The same scenario applying to the testing of vaccinations as well I presume.

So years pass, crop yields explode in size. Billions are made. What to do? Time to apply the formula.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

At first the numbers were manageable, negligible. So full steam ahead with the implementation of the new miracle chemicals. Then, seemingly overnight, we have a situation quickly building towards and epidemic. The safe point for the cost/risk assessment eclipsed in the blink of an eye. Now research is being done and it is pointing towards the miracle chemicals that have stacked billions for the beneficiaries of there implementation. Pulling them would be an admission of guilt and would result in payouts so large and widespread it would bankrupt the giant global corporations that are ultimately responsible for there use.

To complicate things even further there is ample proof that autism in its various forms is genetic as well. So why are we seeing increases because of toxins and other environmental factors? Why are they both happening at once and why are chemicals causing a disorder that has evolved naturally in some humans to happen seemingly by force in others? Are genetic autistics and chemically induced autistics the same thing? If not what are the differences?

It seems almost biblical or destined in scope and nature. As if they were coming one way or the other.

But why and to what end? Even the aspect of some being high functioning and not being classifiable as having a disorder because of their adaptability, even though they have all the symptoms of autism that cause others to need medication or other assistance, makes a weird kind of sense. It is the classic mother nature scenario of adapt or die. A form of evolution. At least it meets the requirements and follows the same pattern of that scenario. (That should piss some ppl off)


Regardless of why this is happening it is happening and it has multiple causes that on the surface at least are not connected.
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Well said.

In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area.


To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area?

Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation?


Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath?

Do they know instinctively to do so?

Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch.

Organophosphate

An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans.

Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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if you do not know your history before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause

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predilection
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knowing why and how feelings feel is not demanded of predilection causing predilection to be effect not cause

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that wasn't the question, the question was "before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause"

predilection - a natural liking for something : a tendency to do or to be attracted to something

cause of cause - i liked it, it makes a natural sense to me.
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Well said.

In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area.


To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area?

Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation?


Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath?

Do they know instinctively to do so?

Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch.

Organophosphate

An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans.

Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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do you mind where you run that zoned approach as in locality because thus far for doing hands on population zoned stuff cis countries, s america, far east are the most user friendly in law as in:
will consider doing if requested
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it is a emotion sensitive constant causing environmental acknowledgment (feedback) of/to the 3 of us
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i like it
you can tell how people get on if you want
all sorts of things i suppose
never thought really
who does
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could be a shuman res topic
we have not got to that yet
but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away
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Appears to becoming clearer... 1dunno1
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it is a emotion sensitive constant causing environmental acknowledgment (feedback) of/to the 3 of us
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i like it
you can tell how people get on if you want
all sorts of things i suppose
never thought really
who does
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could be a shuman res topic
we have not got to that yet
but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away
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Appears to becoming clearer... 1dunno1
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same
that is why i am mentioning
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if you do not know your history before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause

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predilection
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knowing why and how feelings feel is not demanded of predilection causing predilection to be effect not cause

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that wasn't the question, the question was "before you cause it to occur how can you believe you know what you are doing when you cause cause , the cause of cause"

predilection - a natural liking for something : a tendency to do or to be attracted to something

cause of cause - i liked it, it makes a natural sense to me.
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it`s the feeling thing
risk assessment
empathy topic likley

i think
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that leap is already occurred.

...or so i've heard, the biological ("ancestor")-enhanced neural interface, a superintelligence capable of rewriting and hacking its own source code and inevitably designing successive generations of equally intelligent biointerfaces, as such making the previous design obsolete since it has lost its ability to recursively self-improve beyond prediction.


you lost me at "so I heard". I was also unable to reconcile "recursively self-improve beyond prediction."
as that description makes no sense in a sequential logic.

I didn't know there was such things as retarded devil squids. lol
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Well said.

In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area.


To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area?

Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation?


Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath?

Do they know instinctively to do so?

Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch.

Organophosphate

An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans.

Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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do you mind where you run that zoned approach as in locality because thus far for doing hands on population zoned stuff cis countries, s america, far east are the most user friendly in law as in:
will consider doing if requested
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I am not sure what you are asking me.

Can you rephrase?

This seems pretty cut and dry to me. And this stuff is used in all kinds of things.

A new study released Monday suggests pregnant women who live near agricultural fields where pesticides are sprayed are at increased risk of having a child with autism.

The study by the UC Davis MIND Institute found mothers exposed to organophosphates had a two-thirds increased risk of having a child with autism.

And the risk was strongest when exposures occurred during the second and third trimesters of pregnancies, the research showed.

The University of California at Davis is not the first to report a possible link between autism and agricultural pesticide exposure. Seven years ago a study based in the Central Valley showed an association — and the UC Davis researchers said their results strengthen the evidence and warrant caution.

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i like it
you can tell how people get on if you want
all sorts of things i suppose
never thought really
who does
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could be a shuman res topic
we have not got to that yet
but it is cropping up which is nice so we can`t be far away
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A smile will get you everywhere but it's nice to do it without wanting/requiring :)

I like that topic, if everything has an energy field/aura, affect it/excite it in a nice way :)

Talking of dentists had a busy day yesterday getting a crown on tooth, expensive here, 800 euros for one tooth doh!
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Well said.

In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area.


To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area?

Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation?


Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath?

Do they know instinctively to do so?

Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch.

Organophosphate

An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans.

Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives.

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do you mind where you run that zoned approach as in locality because thus far for doing hands on population zoned stuff cis countries, s america, far east are the most user friendly in law as in:
will consider doing if requested
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I am not sure what you are asking me.

Can you rephrase?

This seems pretty cut and dry to me. And this stuff is used in all kinds of things.

A new study released Monday suggests pregnant women who live near agricultural fields where pesticides are sprayed are at increased risk of having a child with autism.

The study by the UC Davis MIND Institute found mothers exposed to organophosphates had a two-thirds increased risk of having a child with autism.

And the risk was strongest when exposures occurred during the second and third trimesters of pregnancies, the research showed.

The University of California at Davis is not the first to report a possible link between autism and agricultural pesticide exposure. Seven years ago a study based in the Central Valley showed an association — and the UC Davis researchers said their results strengthen the evidence and warrant caution.

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yes
your topic is spot on i believe
hits the hearts of all thus political thus is subject to local belief (law)
in usa/eu i go "cloudy" on this topic because i know from many similar topic that the political zones i suggest are the user friendly ones to test properly if your thoughts are correct
unless you have your federal authorities okay al ready to do what you want

i was thinking like that because the content style of your post reminded me of political ambition of familiarity that i support
you are there for the practicality and do not notice glory
and
you are thus far good at it

you experience to me

yes
it was that

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it`s the feeling thing
risk assessment
empathy topic likley

not unlike yourself

"in my experience when i am wrong the consequences are far better than ever could have occurred were i to have been right"

uncannily, concerns have always worked out for the best, for me. being blessed precludes a personal feeling thingy, when dealing with causes that cause, lol

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