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hmm

I think so. Was is a poster here who went there and shared some images of their trip? Was it Cutbait?


I believe it is a common design.

:PansLabyrinth:
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love that labryinth in that picture, finding the flower in the mind, the heart mind, would be nice to visit Chartres,

have ye tried walking a labyrinth Seer? nice experience :)
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I have not in the physical sense. However, I mind the labyrinth of my experiences on the regular. lol.

Good morning everyone.
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Went to this one as a kid, funny thing is in this link they describe the building in the center as a temple. There was a group of us and we made two teams and see which could get to the middle first. I don't remember the outcome but I do remember thinking the center building was a little prison, lol

[link to maxkade.iupui.edu]

Now thinking, I think it was get to the middle and then out again.
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it`s the feeling thing
risk assessment
empathy topic likley

not unlike yourself

"in my experience when i am wrong the consequences are far better than ever could have occurred were i to have been right"
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uncannily, concerns have always worked out for the best, for me. being blessed precludes a personal feeling thingy, when dealing with causes that cause, lol
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wall What is with your inability to quote properly, choice? Disability? On an obabmaphone? Inquiring minds want to know for the love of all that's good and holy!
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oh

yes tounge


None of Your Neurons Know Who You Are...



Evolutionary insights into global patterns of human cranial diversity: population history, climatic and dietary effects


..........This approach has revealed that global patterns of cranial variation can largely be explained on the basis of neutral theory. Therefore, human cranial data can be productively employed as a proxy for neutral genetic data in archaeological contexts. Moreover, there is a growing recognition that regions of the cranium differ in the extent to which they fit a neutral model of microevolutionary expectation, allowing for a more detailed assessment of patterns of adaptation and phenotypic plasticity within the human skull. Taking an historical perspective, the current state of knowledge regarding patterns of cranial adaptation in response to climatic and dietary effects is reviewed. Further insights will be gained by better incorporating the study of cranial and postcranial variation, as well as understanding the impact of neutral versus non-neutral evolution in creating among-species diversity patterns in primates more generally. .........
 Quoting: observation

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Forgot to say, when reading this it reminded me of the posts from yesterday about the two different feelings, earth and space.
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wall What is with your inability to quote properly, choice? Disability? On an obabmaphone? Inquiring minds want to know for the love of all that's good and holy!

funny, you using the phrase good and holy, it must be every other day for you. lol
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devilpopcorn
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eYeonU
I do not die, but awaken to the dream I lived.
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Yeah, I couldn't care less, but the love of all that's good and holy is bitching about it quite maniacly...

lol
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Yeah, I couldn't care less, but the love of all that's good and holy is bitching about it quite maniacly...

well, i love you to but manic children who don't care to paste properly according to their mother's instructions would not be good for the world. lol
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Like a box of crayons...the picture just wouldn't be the same without one of you...
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so unless a huge evolutionary leap is accomplished we are limited by the sensory inputs of the human body as to what we can accomplish. a transitional leap maybe the one where the brain itself transcends the sum of all the sensory inputs it receives.

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that leap is already occurred.

...or so i've heard, the biological ("ancestor")-enhanced neural interface, a superintelligence capable of rewriting and hacking its own source code and inevitably designing successive generations of equally intelligent biointerfaces, as such making the previous design obsolete since it has lost its ability to recursively self-improve beyond prediction.

You will know this event horizon as "singularity", a termed definition that is in itself a fallacy.

this intelligence explosion "singularity" will in fact not be singular at all, at its inception or otherwise but rather dynamic, multi faceted.
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Did see this thread yesterdaychuckle
Thread: Why does the brain and spine resemble a sperm?
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Like a box of crayons...the picture just wouldn't be the same without one of you...

in that case, i have a big red tattoo for you
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so unless a huge evolutionary leap is accomplished we are limited by the sensory inputs of the human body as to what we can accomplish. a transitional leap maybe the one where the brain itself transcends the sum of all the sensory inputs it receives.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39412231

that leap is already occurred.

...or so i've heard, the biological ("ancestor")-enhanced neural interface, a superintelligence capable of rewriting and hacking its own source code and inevitably designing successive generations of equally intelligent biointerfaces, as such making the previous design obsolete since it has lost its ability to recursively self-improve beyond prediction.

You will know this event horizon as "singularity", a termed definition that is in itself a fallacy.

this intelligence explosion "singularity" will in fact not be singular at all, at its inception or otherwise but rather dynamic, multi faceted.
 Quoting: Cthullu


Did see this thread yesterdaychuckle
Thread: Why does the brain and spine resemble a sperm?
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stairway to heaven
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That's funny, and the OP is "Yod". cruise
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Thread: Big Bang breakthrough team jumps the gun. There was NO big bang...WUT?

Washington (AFP) - American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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I do not die, but awaken to the dream I lived.
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[link to whyfiles.org]
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That's funny, and the OP is "Yod".

at least OP can balance a checkbook. lol
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Thread: Big Bang breakthrough team jumps the gun. There was NO big bang...WUT?

Washington (AFP) - American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


proving how a miracle is caused is possibly a job for life
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Thread: Big Bang breakthrough team jumps the gun. There was NO big bang...WUT?

Washington (AFP) - American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


proving how a miracle is caused is possibly a job for life
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oh
have we discovered something
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Thread: Big Bang breakthrough team jumps the gun. There was NO big bang...WUT?

Washington (AFP) - American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


proving how a miracle is caused is possibly a job for life
 Quoting: aether


oh
have we discovered something
 Quoting: aether


Job is the central character of the Book of Job in the Bible. Job is considered a prophet in the Abrahamic Religions: Islam, Christianity and Judaism. In rabbinical literature Iyov is called one of the prophets of the Gentiles

Job is presented as a good and prosperous family man who is beset with horrendous disasters that take away all that he holds dear, including his offspring, his health, and his property. He struggles to understand his situation and begins a search for the answers to his difficulties. God rewards Job's obedience during his travails and restores his health and doubles his original riches........
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

seems quite a nice story line thus far
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Thread: Big Bang breakthrough team jumps the gun. There was NO big bang...WUT?

Washington (AFP) - American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14581504

 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


proving how a miracle is caused is possibly a job for life
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AMERICAN astrophysicists....via "BICEP"what is its extension name "fingers"....maybe next week they will change their minds yet again and just say it finally... the universe was created in the reticular activating system triggered by a giant orgasm emanating from a massive black hole causing vibrational waveforms to become divergent and self manifesting.
From the perspective of the wild, the kingdoms of animals and plants, the soil and even the rocks, all of humanity is guilty. And these, they judge us not...yet.
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Washington (AFP) - American astrophysicists who announced just months ago what they deemed a breakthrough in confirming how the universe was born now admit they may have got it wrong

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14581504

 Quoting: Pattern Recognition


proving how a miracle is caused is possibly a job for life
 Quoting: aether


AMERICAN astrophysicists....via "BICEP"what is its extension name "fingers"....maybe next week they will change their minds yet again and just say it finally... the universe was created in the reticular activating system triggered by a giant orgasm emanating from a massive black hole causing vibrational waveforms to become divergent and self manifesting.
 Quoting: Cthullu


the contact with NASA is more than a greeting
it`s the first signal that our minds are meeting
disclosure is not just what you imagine it will be
and the powers that be also had to wait patiently
but now we have their acceptance not fear
progress will move up and not just a gear
you will be informed as they and others interact
for now please be peaceful, relax and sit back
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not noticing that sequencing in their thought
maybe it will become noticeable soon
tounge
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you know the good thing about a pyramid is if you fill one up with compartments
no matter how long you leave the compartments inside
you will always be able to remove 1 or all of the compartments and have space only inside the pyramid and the pyramid does not notice because it is what it is (self organizing)
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you know the good thing about a pyramid is if you fill one up with compartments
no matter how long you leave the compartments inside
you will always be able to remove 1 or all of the compartments and have space only inside the pyramid and the pyramid does not notice because it is what it is (self organizing)
 Quoting: aether


the best news is you load/unload the pyramid from outside the pyramid
by design
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not noticing that sequencing in their thought
maybe it will become noticeable soon


the only other person that admits to being from wisconsin is luna, was the undulating orgasm a clue?
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not noticing that sequencing in their thought
maybe it will become noticeable soon


the only other person that admits to being from wisconsin is luna, was the undulating orgasm a clue?
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oh
i do that often i think

see what you mean , lovely

i think that is nice
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The range of severity for the 1/3 of women living within a mile of the spraying is a 60% increased rate of ASD. Which in itself begs a few questions because the test was conducted on persons living 1.25,1.5 and 1.75 km away. 1.5 km being the range most adversely affected. Not 1.25km

Link to the abstract of the original study the UC research and other articles derived from and a pdf link to the entire original study and corresponding supplemental information .
[link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]




More supporting info here: [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]

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This “proof-of-principle” evidence for environmental causation is supported further by findings from prospective birth cohort epidemiological studies, many of them supported by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS). These studies enroll women during pregnancy, measure prenatal exposures in real time as they occur, and then follow children longitudinally with periodic direct examinations to assess growth, development, and the presence of disease. Prospective studies are powerful engines for the discovery of etiologic associations between prenatal exposures and NDDs. They have linked autistic behaviors with prenatal exposures to the organophosphate insecticide chlorpyrifos (Eskenazi et al. 2007) and also with prenatal exposures to phthalates (Miodovnik et al. 2011). Additional prospective studies have linked loss of cognition (IQ), dyslexia, and ADHD to lead (Jusko et al. 2008), methylmercury (Oken et al. 2008), organophosphate insecticides (London et al. 2012), organochlorine insecticides (Eskenazi et al. 2008), polychlorinated biphenyls (Winneke 2011), arsenic (Wasserman et al. 2007), manganese (Khan et al. 2011), polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (Perera et al. 2009), bisphenol A (Braun et al. 2011), brominated flame retardants (Herbstman et al. 2010), and perfluorinated compounds (Stein and Savitz 2011).
Toxic chemicals likely cause injury to the developing human brain either through direct toxicity or interactions with the genome. An expert committee convened by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) estimated that 3% of neurobehavioral disorders are caused directly by toxic environmental exposures and that another 25% are caused by interactions between environmental factors, defined broadly, and inherited susceptibilities (National Research Council 2000). Epigenetic modification of gene expression by toxic chemicals that results in DNA methylation, histone modification, or changes in activity levels of non-protein-coding RNA (ncRNAs) may be a mechanism of such gene–environment interaction (Grafodatskaya et al. 2010). Epigenetic “marks” have been shown to be able to influence gene expression and alter high-order DNA structure (Anway and Skinner 2006; Waterland and Jirtle 2004).




Relevant related study:
Organophosphate Pesticide Exposure and Attention in Young Mexican-American Children: The CHAMACOS Study:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

This study gives some hard numbers and concentrates on the ADHD aspects of being exposed to these toxins as opposed to ASD but touch on autism results acknowledging some children showing signs of PDD (pervasive developmental disorders ).





My synopsis?

Autism is kind of the perfect storm.
Looking back on how they likely tested these pesticide chemicals on animals what would the symptoms have been? The symptoms of autism are much like the instincts animals are already born with. Sensitivity to light, sound, vibration, trouble reading complex facial expressions sensitivity to touch and acute awareness of textures. All things animals already do naturally so would not be noticed as adverse side effects during the data collection of the tests. Add to that the symptoms in humans are typically not recognized until just before or at school age.

The only thing likely noticeable would have been intelligence either decreasing or increasing in some subjects in various degrees. Only the severe loss of intelligence or encumbered cognitive abilities being recorded as significant.

The same scenario applying to the testing of vaccinations as well I presume.

So years pass, crop yields explode in size. Billions are made. What to do? Time to apply the formula.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

At first the numbers were manageable, negligible. So full steam ahead with the implementation of the new miracle chemicals. Then, seemingly overnight, we have a situation quickly building towards and epidemic. The safe point for the cost/risk assessment eclipsed in the blink of an eye. Now research is being done and it is pointing towards the miracle chemicals that have stacked billions for the beneficiaries of there implementation. Pulling them would be an admission of guilt and would result in payouts so large and widespread it would bankrupt the giant global corporations that are ultimately responsible for there use.

To complicate things even further there is ample proof that autism in its various forms is genetic as well. So why are we seeing increases because of toxins and other environmental factors? Why are they both happening at once and why are chemicals causing a disorder that has evolved naturally in some humans to happen seemingly by force in others? Are genetic autistics and chemically induced autistics the same thing? If not what are the differences?

It seems almost biblical or destined in scope and nature. As if they were coming one way or the other.

But why and to what end? Even the aspect of some being high functioning and not being classifiable as having a disorder because of their adaptability, even though they have all the symptoms of autism that cause others to need medication or other assistance, makes a weird kind of sense. It is the classic mother nature scenario of adapt or die. A form of evolution. At least it meets the requirements and follows the same pattern of that scenario. (That should piss some ppl off)


Regardless of why this is happening it is happening and it has multiple causes that on the surface at least are not connected.
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Well said.

In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area.


To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area?

Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation?


Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath?

Do they know instinctively to do so?

Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch.

Organophosphate

An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans.

Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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It is hard to speculate on the middle ring with the small sample size. A larger sample size may show that those closer are actually more affected. You see screwing things like that in chaos math too. You have to have enough data to discern a pattern instead of just a snap shot of info that may lead you to a false conclusion.

Well yes you have to wonder if the mutation is caused by toxins in the fetus and changes the cell structure of the child then does it cause a permanent change to their dna that can be passed on to there children.

If so is that what happened to ppl who suffered from this back in Hanz Aspergers day? He published his book about the children who displayed the characteristics of what the aspergers diagnoses is based off of in 1944. I think lead poisoning was still prevalent back then 1dunno1

And sure, i think we all instinctively hold our breath when something unpleasant enters are personal air space.
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not noticing that sequencing in their thought
maybe it will become noticeable soon


the only other person that admits to being from wisconsin is luna, was the undulating orgasm a clue?
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oh
i do that often i think

see what you mean , lovely

i think that is nice
 Quoting: aether


epiclol
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Very interesting synopsis! Similar conclusions were found as to the governments push about national flouride use and it's agressive implementations in public use.

Only to conclude decades later after more thourough research that negative impacts grossly outweigh any other found benefits in the first place.

Seems this scale of research really only trickles thru to public knowledge after like 35 years or so of government pushed and funded programs, before consumers finally make a change in purchase habits that make producers rethink either their sales strategies to keep money rolling in or they finally adopt the research and branch into a new products for the consumer directly.
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Yes purposely i am sure. They will milk it for every dollar it is worth regardless of health concerns. From their sociopathic view point they cant admit to them anyways without ruining their fortune and once you have poisoned a million ppl whats a few million more?
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I wish you would stop playing the intelligent naive card and tell us what you have figured out about what is going on instead of hinting at it all over the internet. You know a lot more than you let on.
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is this familiar

Yes Solar, I would very much appreciate you taking the time to look through the thread. I respect your ideas and knowledge very much indeed. There may be some ideas that are 'out to lunch', but I need to explain how my ideas came about, and that might raise some guffaws among some readers.
I had a flood of ideas, or concepts one day, just out of the blue. I thought it was just that my subconscious mind had been working on ideas I had been thinking about, and come up with some solutions. Now, having read about how the subconscious is perhaps connected to all other subconsciousness, meaning everyone else, but also the collective subconscious, the Akashic record as one description, and that the concepts were from that source.
Recently I was reading an old copy of U.S.Andersens book, Three Magic Words , in which he describes that these ideas do not contain detail or words or any type of explanation, but just some form of vague imagery or concepts. I wrote down as many as I could recall as soon as I got the chance, and have been trying to make sense of them ever since. And as soon as I started Goggling, it was amazing that everything just seemed to be confirmed. So, if there are ideas you consider juvenile, it is because those ideas I was given were not clear and concise, and my interpretation may have been lacking owing to me not being familiar with the science involved, and I have been muddling along and learning as I go.
As an example, the importance of torque seemed to be pointed out to me, and just today I see this article which talks about twisting light, though further down the page they describe it as torque. Not a polarisation, but a torque, and this, if the vacuum is a non-linear medium, may be important in astrophysics, and explain much that is currently puzzling or surprising to the conventional scientists.

Spiral-shaped 'light fan' adds new twist to laser-driven plasma accelerators......................
 Quoting: Gary N

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