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not noticing that sequencing in their thought
maybe it will become noticeable soon


the only other person that admits to being from wisconsin is luna, was the undulating orgasm a clue?
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not noticing that sequencing in their thought
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the only other person that admits to being from wisconsin is luna, was the undulating orgasm a clue?
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oh
i do that often i think

see what you mean , lovely

i think that is nice
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The range of severity for the 1/3 of women living within a mile of the spraying is a 60% increased rate of ASD. Which in itself begs a few questions because the test was conducted on persons living 1.25,1.5 and 1.75 km away. 1.5 km being the range most adversely affected. Not 1.25km

Link to the abstract of the original study the UC research and other articles derived from and a pdf link to the entire original study and corresponding supplemental information .
[link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]




More supporting info here: [link to ehp.niehs.nih.gov]

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This “proof-of-principle” evidence for environmental causation is supported further by findings from prospective birth cohort epidemiological studies, many of them supported by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS). These studies enroll women during pregnancy, measure prenatal exposures in real time as they occur, and then follow children longitudinally with periodic direct examinations to assess growth, development, and the presence of disease. Prospective studies are powerful engines for the discovery of etiologic associations between prenatal exposures and NDDs. They have linked autistic behaviors with prenatal exposures to the organophosphate insecticide chlorpyrifos (Eskenazi et al. 2007) and also with prenatal exposures to phthalates (Miodovnik et al. 2011). Additional prospective studies have linked loss of cognition (IQ), dyslexia, and ADHD to lead (Jusko et al. 2008), methylmercury (Oken et al. 2008), organophosphate insecticides (London et al. 2012), organochlorine insecticides (Eskenazi et al. 2008), polychlorinated biphenyls (Winneke 2011), arsenic (Wasserman et al. 2007), manganese (Khan et al. 2011), polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (Perera et al. 2009), bisphenol A (Braun et al. 2011), brominated flame retardants (Herbstman et al. 2010), and perfluorinated compounds (Stein and Savitz 2011).
Toxic chemicals likely cause injury to the developing human brain either through direct toxicity or interactions with the genome. An expert committee convened by the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) estimated that 3% of neurobehavioral disorders are caused directly by toxic environmental exposures and that another 25% are caused by interactions between environmental factors, defined broadly, and inherited susceptibilities (National Research Council 2000). Epigenetic modification of gene expression by toxic chemicals that results in DNA methylation, histone modification, or changes in activity levels of non-protein-coding RNA (ncRNAs) may be a mechanism of such gene–environment interaction (Grafodatskaya et al. 2010). Epigenetic “marks” have been shown to be able to influence gene expression and alter high-order DNA structure (Anway and Skinner 2006; Waterland and Jirtle 2004).




Relevant related study:
Organophosphate Pesticide Exposure and Attention in Young Mexican-American Children: The CHAMACOS Study:
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

This study gives some hard numbers and concentrates on the ADHD aspects of being exposed to these toxins as opposed to ASD but touch on autism results acknowledging some children showing signs of PDD (pervasive developmental disorders ).





My synopsis?

Autism is kind of the perfect storm.
Looking back on how they likely tested these pesticide chemicals on animals what would the symptoms have been? The symptoms of autism are much like the instincts animals are already born with. Sensitivity to light, sound, vibration, trouble reading complex facial expressions sensitivity to touch and acute awareness of textures. All things animals already do naturally so would not be noticed as adverse side effects during the data collection of the tests. Add to that the symptoms in humans are typically not recognized until just before or at school age.

The only thing likely noticeable would have been intelligence either decreasing or increasing in some subjects in various degrees. Only the severe loss of intelligence or encumbered cognitive abilities being recorded as significant.

The same scenario applying to the testing of vaccinations as well I presume.

So years pass, crop yields explode in size. Billions are made. What to do? Time to apply the formula.


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At first the numbers were manageable, negligible. So full steam ahead with the implementation of the new miracle chemicals. Then, seemingly overnight, we have a situation quickly building towards and epidemic. The safe point for the cost/risk assessment eclipsed in the blink of an eye. Now research is being done and it is pointing towards the miracle chemicals that have stacked billions for the beneficiaries of there implementation. Pulling them would be an admission of guilt and would result in payouts so large and widespread it would bankrupt the giant global corporations that are ultimately responsible for there use.

To complicate things even further there is ample proof that autism in its various forms is genetic as well. So why are we seeing increases because of toxins and other environmental factors? Why are they both happening at once and why are chemicals causing a disorder that has evolved naturally in some humans to happen seemingly by force in others? Are genetic autistics and chemically induced autistics the same thing? If not what are the differences?

It seems almost biblical or destined in scope and nature. As if they were coming one way or the other.

But why and to what end? Even the aspect of some being high functioning and not being classifiable as having a disorder because of their adaptability, even though they have all the symptoms of autism that cause others to need medication or other assistance, makes a weird kind of sense. It is the classic mother nature scenario of adapt or die. A form of evolution. At least it meets the requirements and follows the same pattern of that scenario. (That should piss some ppl off)


Regardless of why this is happening it is happening and it has multiple causes that on the surface at least are not connected.
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Well said.

In regard to the distances (1.25/1.5), with a 'middle ring' being more severely effected ,I would wonder how far each bit of the 'chemical sprays' breaks down and how far each travels on the wind before settling into peoples breathing area.


To look at the genetic factors I think one would need to look again at the environment. Did the parent grow up in the same area?

Is it being passed from parent to child genetically, or between siblings, due to sharing the same environment, drinking water, etc, during gestation?


Also, to bring up the example of the I-5 corridor from last night. How many babies/toddlers riding in the car(s) are inhaling those sprayed chemicals while parent drives through it, and are capable of holding their breath?

Do they know instinctively to do so?

Sometimes it goes on for miles...And you can pass multiple instances of said in a single 45 mile stretch.

Organophosphate

An organophosphate (sometimes abbreviated OP) or phosphate ester is the general name for esters of phosphoric acid. Many of the most important biochemicals are organophosphates, including DNA and RNA as well as many cofactors that are essential for life. Organophosphates are the basis of many insecticides, herbicides, and nerve agents. The United States Environmental Protection Agency lists organophosphates as very highly acutely toxic to bees, wildlife, and humans.

Recent studies suggest a possible link to adverse effects in the neurobehavioral development of fetuses and children, even at very low levels of exposure. Organophosphates are widely used as solvents, plasticizers, and EP additives.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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It is hard to speculate on the middle ring with the small sample size. A larger sample size may show that those closer are actually more affected. You see screwing things like that in chaos math too. You have to have enough data to discern a pattern instead of just a snap shot of info that may lead you to a false conclusion.

Well yes you have to wonder if the mutation is caused by toxins in the fetus and changes the cell structure of the child then does it cause a permanent change to their dna that can be passed on to there children.

If so is that what happened to ppl who suffered from this back in Hanz Aspergers day? He published his book about the children who displayed the characteristics of what the aspergers diagnoses is based off of in 1944. I think lead poisoning was still prevalent back then 1dunno1

And sure, i think we all instinctively hold our breath when something unpleasant enters are personal air space.
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the only other person that admits to being from wisconsin is luna, was the undulating orgasm a clue?
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oh
i do that often i think

see what you mean , lovely

i think that is nice
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epiclol
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Very interesting synopsis! Similar conclusions were found as to the governments push about national flouride use and it's agressive implementations in public use.

Only to conclude decades later after more thourough research that negative impacts grossly outweigh any other found benefits in the first place.

Seems this scale of research really only trickles thru to public knowledge after like 35 years or so of government pushed and funded programs, before consumers finally make a change in purchase habits that make producers rethink either their sales strategies to keep money rolling in or they finally adopt the research and branch into a new products for the consumer directly.
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Yes purposely i am sure. They will milk it for every dollar it is worth regardless of health concerns. From their sociopathic view point they cant admit to them anyways without ruining their fortune and once you have poisoned a million ppl whats a few million more?
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I wish you would stop playing the intelligent naive card and tell us what you have figured out about what is going on instead of hinting at it all over the internet. You know a lot more than you let on.
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is this familiar

Yes Solar, I would very much appreciate you taking the time to look through the thread. I respect your ideas and knowledge very much indeed. There may be some ideas that are 'out to lunch', but I need to explain how my ideas came about, and that might raise some guffaws among some readers.
I had a flood of ideas, or concepts one day, just out of the blue. I thought it was just that my subconscious mind had been working on ideas I had been thinking about, and come up with some solutions. Now, having read about how the subconscious is perhaps connected to all other subconsciousness, meaning everyone else, but also the collective subconscious, the Akashic record as one description, and that the concepts were from that source.
Recently I was reading an old copy of U.S.Andersens book, Three Magic Words , in which he describes that these ideas do not contain detail or words or any type of explanation, but just some form of vague imagery or concepts. I wrote down as many as I could recall as soon as I got the chance, and have been trying to make sense of them ever since. And as soon as I started Goggling, it was amazing that everything just seemed to be confirmed. So, if there are ideas you consider juvenile, it is because those ideas I was given were not clear and concise, and my interpretation may have been lacking owing to me not being familiar with the science involved, and I have been muddling along and learning as I go.
As an example, the importance of torque seemed to be pointed out to me, and just today I see this article which talks about twisting light, though further down the page they describe it as torque. Not a polarisation, but a torque, and this, if the vacuum is a non-linear medium, may be important in astrophysics, and explain much that is currently puzzling or surprising to the conventional scientists.

Spiral-shaped 'light fan' adds new twist to laser-driven plasma accelerators......................
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proving how a miracle is caused is possibly a job for life
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oh
have we discovered something
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Job is the central character of the Book of Job in the Bible. Job is considered a prophet in the Abrahamic Religions: Islam, Christianity and Judaism. In rabbinical literature Iyov is called one of the prophets of the Gentiles

Job is presented as a good and prosperous family man who is beset with horrendous disasters that take away all that he holds dear, including his offspring, his health, and his property. He struggles to understand his situation and begins a search for the answers to his difficulties. God rewards Job's obedience during his travails and restores his health and doubles his original riches........
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

seems quite a nice story line thus far
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I don't understand the connections you are making, but that seems normal in these days.
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Blah blah blah Fibonacci golden ratio....

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You seen this yet?

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empathic thought

meek never is will
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empathic thought

meek never is will
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that /z\ could be clever
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review photos of gravitational lensing. the light being presented on the outer rim of the gravitational lensing is a result of torque. as the distance light source is being reflected on the outer gravitational lensing rim it is reflected not only at a singular location but on multiple locations along the rim. the distance light is being caught at multiple locations along the rim because the cosmic object responsible for the effect of gravitational lensing is itself spiraling though space.

so we have a gravitational lense spinning and capturing light from a distance source at multiple locations along the lensing rim itself. at each conjunction between the distance light source and the gravitational rim the aligning between the two is producing a torqueing of the distance light source in conjunction with gravitational rim. this torqueing conjunction is amplifying the distance light source into a concentrated light beam.

so the gravitational lense is torqueing a distance light source and concentrating the distance light source into a light beam of sorts. however that is only a partial explanation, the light source itself is in a spiral trajectory and is casting light in spiral trajectory as it approaches the gravitation lensing phenomena. the light source spirals and the light it emits also spirals in its trajectory, the combined effect is a pre-twining focusing of light. the combination of the light source pre-twining itself to the light it emits with the spiraling outer rim of the gravitational rim lense, combines to produce a highly torqued concentrated laser beam that we observe

i'm meek and I will
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tell luna she could spit in my face and i'd still love her.
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empathic thought

meek never is will
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Flowing instead of forcing?
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tell luna she could spit in my face and i'd still love her.
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Actually the aspergers designation has been done away with. That is why the talk of low and high functioning. That is how it is referred to now. Though it is commonly ignored because aspergers became easily recognized and at least partially understood. It looks like it will persist in spite of the decision to do away with the diagnoses. Which i like actually but is creates a clear line between high functioning and low. The differences should be acknowledged because they are so stark.

Women and aspergers is an interesting topic all on its own.
It largely goes undiagnosed/noticed largely to do social perceptions. Women are allowed to be quarky or sensitive to sights, sounds, smells, textures and to have "crazy ideas" more readily then men.

A sexist position that helps and hinders autistic women at the same time.

Can you link the UC study? Or is just a page back? I have resources that might be able to give you more information.
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Good point. When do you think 'sensitive' crosses over into being considered a 'disorder'? I would assume it would be if someone becomes non-functioning or freaks out rather often...if you will.

There seems to be a vast difference between 'high functioning' and 'low functioning' to perhaps be considered something different altogether.

Maybe.
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Just stumbled on this. Sounds a bit like what we were discussing earlier.

1 in 6 surprises me. I did not think it was that high.


Is "Sensory Processing Disorder" a Real Medical Condition?

For most toddlers, tantrums and clumsiness are just a part of life, something they grow out of. Yet a burgeoning number of parents, like Pamela Trigg, are reporting that their children exhibit baffling, intense behaviors. Some overreact, recoiling from loud noises or refusing to wear itchy clothes. Others underreact, showing little reaction to pain or crashing their bodies into walls.

In the last decade, tens of thousands of children have been labeled with sensory processing disorder, a once-unheard of condition which advocates liken to a neurological “traffic jam” that prevents the brain from handling external stimuli and making sense of certain sounds, sights, smells, tastes, and textures.

...

As a wider range of everyday behavior described in medical and psychiatric terms, many are skeptical of labeling a wide swath of children with yet another disorder that scientists and doctors barely understand. Already, one in six children in the United States has been diagnosed with a developmental disability such as autism or ADHD, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The agency estimates that more than 10,000 American toddlers have been medicated for ADHD, even though most experts agree that hyperactive and impulsive behavior are normal traits in young children.

“Our idea of normal is shrinking,” said Dr. William Carey, a pediatrician at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “If you’re shy, you have a social anxiety disorder. If you have a hot temper, you have intermittent explosive disorder. Too many variations of normal are being labeled as defects in the child when the problem often lies in the child’s environment.”

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Actually the aspergers designation has been done away with. That is why the talk of low and high functioning. That is how it is referred to now. Though it is commonly ignored because aspergers became easily recognized and at least partially understood. It looks like it will persist in spite of the decision to do away with the diagnoses. Which i like actually but is creates a clear line between high functioning and low. The differences should be acknowledged because they are so stark.

Women and aspergers is an interesting topic all on its own.
It largely goes undiagnosed/noticed largely to do social perceptions. Women are allowed to be quarky or sensitive to sights, sounds, smells, textures and to have "crazy ideas" more readily then men.

A sexist position that helps and hinders autistic women at the same time.

Can you link the UC study? Or is just a page back? I have resources that might be able to give you more information.
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Good point. When do you think 'sensitive' crosses over into being considered a 'disorder'? I would assume it would be if someone becomes non-functioning or freaks out rather often...if you will.

There seems to be a vast difference between 'high functioning' and 'low functioning' to perhaps be considered something different altogether.

Maybe.
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Just stumbled on this. Sounds a bit like what we were discussing earlier.

1 in 6 surprises me. I did not think it was that high.


Is "Sensory Processing Disorder" a Real Medical Condition?

For most toddlers, tantrums and clumsiness are just a part of life, something they grow out of. Yet a burgeoning number of parents, like Pamela Trigg, are reporting that their children exhibit baffling, intense behaviors. Some overreact, recoiling from loud noises or refusing to wear itchy clothes. Others underreact, showing little reaction to pain or crashing their bodies into walls.

In the last decade, tens of thousands of children have been labeled with sensory processing disorder, a once-unheard of condition which advocates liken to a neurological “traffic jam” that prevents the brain from handling external stimuli and making sense of certain sounds, sights, smells, tastes, and textures.

...

As a wider range of everyday behavior described in medical and psychiatric terms, many are skeptical of labeling a wide swath of children with yet another disorder that scientists and doctors barely understand. Already, one in six children in the United States has been diagnosed with a developmental disability such as autism or ADHD, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The agency estimates that more than 10,000 American toddlers have been medicated for ADHD, even though most experts agree that hyperactive and impulsive behavior are normal traits in young children.

“Our idea of normal is shrinking,” said Dr. William Carey, a pediatrician at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “If you’re shy, you have a social anxiety disorder. If you have a hot temper, you have intermittent explosive disorder. Too many variations of normal are being labeled as defects in the child when the problem often lies in the child’s environment.”

[link to www.newrepublic.com]
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I dont how to answer this without getting into a conspiracy theory.

An effective way to cover something up is to flood the perceptions with other things claiming to be it that are not.

In this case it serves two purposes i think. One is to cover up for the real disorders being caused by careless over site payed for by mega corporations that allow them to make ridiculous amounts of money unethically and at the expense of the health and livelihood of human beings.
If you flood the market with these diagnoses then it is hard for anyone to sue you for causing it when the "causes" of it are so varied everyone has one form of it another.

So how can you pin it down on one corporation. Especially when many of the diagnose are attributed to societal pressures.

The second is to make even more money in the process by insuring the future of psychiatrist and the pills they subscribe on the behalf of big pharma. Get'em addicted and reliant as toddlers and you will make money off them their entire lives.....
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posted 6:02 thoughts on insulin resistance diabetes, etc.

I don't know how to link on this device the thread.
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archetypes created by man be it within swastika or gods
effect our minds as we use words containing their powers
which is how our societies are governed utilizing the
physiological forces that our history reinforces neatly
my experience is that by choosing sequences of words
that avoid the traditional concepts it opens the doors
to understanding an existence free from all unnatural
resistance i acknowledge that these signs are in all
but i refuse to give them the power that i was told
and 1`ve never been confronted with the threats of old
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the language of the few insiders working with the system
utilizing completely different physical principles within
use a language devoid of all traditional power of magic
which is the reality intuitively detected by the public
safe within the protection of thousands of years of
human perception meaning is manifesting with proof
of a new way of thinking which must naturaly create
a new type of living for all whom know to participate
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Thread: Petroglyphs, not just simple, crude drawings from ancient man. The truth is stranger then you could ever imagine. (Page 25)
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If I am understanding this, then oh...weird freaking science... whatever it is. It's all in the sequence as to the power of language.
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you got to remember we are experiencing ancestors motivation in our present
stuff like materialism may turn out to a clever way to promote rough sex


we don`t know yet what is the motive to materialism but we are certain of this

physical sex only is the law of materialism
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I am serious. This place is fucked. Is death the only way?
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Tool: 'Right in Two'


That one's good. Not 'Jambi' good, but good.


"Repugnant is a creature... ~
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is that murder before honour (suicide by right/free will) or fight for sacrifice

both i suppose
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fit`s materialism nicely
how do you prove materialism is true
you constantly kill thus keep alive proof nothing will re new/return (come true) without gods will
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What is this thread about?
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What is this thread about?
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we are on the topic rough sex at the minute generally it seems

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Hi actually I recall year ago reading this thread. It was about lazer thing? I thought was interesting but how could it become such big thread?
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What is this thread about?
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looks like most of the posts are just people posting random things, desperately trying to stay on top of the UKRAINE thread cruiselmao

..but of course that's not gonna happen. drevil
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Well what is happening in Ukrainian is not interesting to me
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posted 6:02 thoughts on insulin resistance diabetes, etc.

I don't know how to link on this device the thread.
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Hi Aether, how r u?


If you think this thread fits the thread title is "Thoughts on Insulin Resistance Diabetes" I was unable to link to thread on my device. Thank you.
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