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Seer777
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It just occurred to me you are from Oregon Seer...
I lived in Bend Or from 1988 til 2001 I miss that state sometimes. Need to go back for a visit . One of my favorite places to camp was Detroit Lake , some great family memories there hf
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:)

I like Bend.

I did some snowboarding as a youth at Mt. Batchelor.

Was my favorite mountain to ride.



I just thought I would mention...

When I was out on my deck just now, looking up at the sky over the Bay, I noticed what looked like a giant disembodied lioness head blowing a smoke ring.

lol.

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I appear to be a step behind today.
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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
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I appear to be a step behind today.
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We always are buddy.
- ? Nus.

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_Alive, therefore life itself.
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have you ever considered that all moon nasa picture could be faked to hide something?
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I have.

However, what intrigues me a bit more is the probability that the Sun and Moon would appear the same size from Earth's perspective...


During the transit of Venus, she was just a dot moving over the face of the gigantic Sun.

Yet our tiny Moon, covers the Sun perfectly from our vantage point.

WindmillSun

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I missed the discussion on why no stars are visible. Can anyone fill me in real quick?
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You know it's funny...I went to bed last night thinking on this very thing.

It woke me up in the middle of the night as well, while I thought on it some more.

Even got up at 5 am, because I was thinking about the stars.

I also realized that the 'star' I thought was Aldebaran was in fact Jupiter.

Would explain its brightness.


tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


it is not that they are not there
it is they are visible because of our membrane (magnetosphere)
and opinion is it is our ionosphere that translates the electromagnetic signals into visible signal (light)
 Quoting: aether


I considered that.

However, Hubble takes stunning photographic of the Universe...

It seems, if one was in 'space' the stars would still shine.

As does the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun.


:EarthFromMoon:

It's just black.

I don't get it.

scratching
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distance and direction
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It just occurred to me you are from Oregon Seer...
I lived in Bend Or from 1988 til 2001 I miss that state sometimes. Need to go back for a visit . One of my favorite places to camp was Detroit Lake , some great family memories there hf
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:)

I like Bend.

I did some snowboarding as a youth at Mt. Batchelor.

Was my favorite mountain to ride.



I just thought I would mention...

When I was out on my deck just now, looking up at the sky over the Bay, I noticed what looked like a giant disembodied lioness head blowing a smoke ring.

lol.

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


lmao maybe I need to add that to this one ( in a silly mood this morning chuckle )

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If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

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"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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I appear to be a step behind today.
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We always are buddy.
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no offense but not me.

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distance and direction
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Care to elaborate?


This image of Hubble's Ultra Deep field is pointed in one direction and look all it found...

[link to apod.nasa.gov]


181...I recognize that number.

hmm
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I appear to be a step behind today.
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We always are buddy.
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no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge

Last Edited by 1908247 on 11/09/2012 12:03 PM
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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When I was out on my deck just now, looking up at the sky over the Bay, I noticed what looked like a giant disembodied lioness head blowing a smoke ring.

lol.

tounge
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lmao maybe I need to add that to this one ( in a silly mood this morning chuckle )

lyoness3
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Wow!

Awesome work, love!

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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


If you believe that all thing strive toward equilibrium and if someone or something is always out of sync; it is just a matter of time before forces greater than oneself come into play.

If you live your life in equilibrium the chances that things work out in your favor is evident
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I appear to be a step behind today.
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We always are buddy.
 Quoting: 1908247


no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
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Wow!

Awesome work, love!

hugs
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Why Thank You !!!hugs It is actually more done than that but is not yet finished. Was in a negative situation and had to move on that energy flowing for those pics got stopped . In a much better place to finish them if I can get motivated lol .. seems im stuck in my universal head and heart these days.
Need to start putting what im seeing into art again

Again, Thank You

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If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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distance and direction
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Care to elaborate?


This image of Hubble's Ultra Deep field is pointed in one direction and look all it found...

[link to apod.nasa.gov]


181...I recognize that number.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


The hubble is pointed away from the Earth and I believe it resides in a stationary orbit at an equilibrium point. Being pointed away from the Earth, the light shining off the Earth surface no longer becomes a factor. Hence the stars become visible. Think city lights obscuring the night stars.
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good morning Lion.

I am not here to disrupt any of your discussions. only here as a slot opened up.
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tounge

Ah yes, there you are.

WB.


Seems the Lion has become a theme...

LionandButtterfl

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distance and direction
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Care to elaborate?


This image of Hubble's Ultra Deep field is pointed in one direction and look all it found...

[link to apod.nasa.gov]


181...I recognize that number.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


The hubble is pointed away from the Earth and I believe it resides in a stationary orbit at an equilibrium point. Being pointed away from the Earth, the light shining off the Earth surface no longer becomes a factor. Hence the stars become visible. Think city lights obscuring the night stars.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Yes, I considered that.

Say for instance those aboard the ISS looks out a window which is not Earth facing...

Do they see stars?

Are the stars just unregistrable to the camera but able to be perceived by the Human Eye?


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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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Good Morning Aether Ladies and Gentlemen hugs

we live in a thought wave universe everything is affected by the emotions we put out including our environmenthmm
are those thoughts also carried in our dna and as it changes are they released into the environment once again thru our changing emotions relative to the thoughts being released? cyclical event? the torus self perpetuated?

ripplessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

( lol that just kinda spilled in sorry )
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


the sequence goes thought to dna
but
dna reacts to our real universe not our believed universe

so our thought must match what our environment is saying
and
in understanding that
we must correctly know what to think and why


but
do we know why changing our dna is the thought?
 Quoting: aether

Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
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does dna itself think?
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Seer I honestly possess few ulterior motives, I'm only interested in exploring and enjoying myself. I do have favorites although the feelings are not always mutual.tounge
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Linear time
Unlike many other religions, whose sense of time was basically cyclic, Judaism and Christianity worked to preserve a written linear history and mythic timeline, running from the creation to the end of the world. For example, in Aztec mythology the universe is created and destroyed repeatedly in a circular concept of History, but in Judaism and Christianity, the universe has been created only once and will be destroyed only once, and after its destruction it will be restored to perfection once and for all, having a lineal concept of time. Likewise, Islamic mythology has a linear time perspective, running from the creation to the end of the world and the establishment of paradise on heaven. Qur'an 56 describes the end times, the judgment of the dead, and the eternal reward and punishment of saints and sinners—an eschatological mythology similar to the storyline of the Christian Book of Revelation and to some elements in the Jewish Book of Isaiah and Book of Daniel.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

tricky topic
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Seer I honestly possess few ulterior motives, I'm only interested in exploring and enjoying myself. I do have favorites although the feelings are not always mutual.tounge
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Excellent.

Then you find yourself in perfect company.

:)
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Good Morning Aether Ladies and Gentlemen hugs

we live in a thought wave universe everything is affected by the emotions we put out including our environmenthmm
are those thoughts also carried in our dna and as it changes are they released into the environment once again thru our changing emotions relative to the thoughts being released? cyclical event? the torus self perpetuated?

ripplessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

( lol that just kinda spilled in sorry )
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


the sequence goes thought to dna
but
dna reacts to our real universe not our believed universe

so our thought must match what our environment is saying
and
in understanding that
we must correctly know what to think and why


but
do we know why changing our dna is the thought?
 Quoting: aether

Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
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does dna itself think?
 Quoting: 0 854787


DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
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lol. have you forgot, that what is presented through me has multiple contexts and speaks to the person who is being addressed as well as the others who are observing it.

dear seer, i have been speaking to you the entire time. if i do not respond to you personally it is because you have the answer.


afa starting another thread, i am still weighing and meausring its purpose and disposition through added dimensiona and intuitive review.

i will consult a few i have met along the path, elites in their own rights as to their thoughts before its creation or not.

how are you.

go ducks!

tounge
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I see.

Perhaps I am just overly sensitive.

I often feel when people stop talking to me directly, it is due to a perception of my having wronged that person.

I can't tell you how many times I have revisited our last conversation concerning the firewood and water, looking if I had perhaps insulted you which was not my intention.

I am glad to hear I was paranoid.

lol.


I'm not really a huge Duck fan. I just like getting together with my friends and brother, having some drinks, and great conversation.

Great conversation=my air.

hugs
 Quoting: Seer777


Dually noted. ;)

it is just more efficient for me to address multiple personality’s simultaneously as a whole. as the the whole is the enviroment. so i waist not my words on percieved sectors.

As that is the natural state of logos and the way of things to come as many are seeing that they do the same.

i have to review my own words on multiple occasions because they speak to me as well.


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Seer I honestly possess few ulterior motives, I'm only interested in exploring and enjoying myself. I do have favorites although the feelings are not always mutual.tounge
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Excellent.

Then you find yourself in perfect company.

:)
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I don't know, most don't find my definition of enjoyable to their liking!tounge
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We always are buddy.
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no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
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I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
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Each step you take you create a new place for you to step on, sort of.. ? tounge
- ? Nus.

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_Alive, therefore life itself.
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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
Saptaparna ~
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no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Each step you take you create a new place for you to step on, sort of.. ? tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


too funny , when I read this I got a vision of a road falling in front of a man walking and it was based on the decisions he was making. It would fractalize in some places and in other places it remained true to form and was a steady path ... hmm interesting
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
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But, I would imagine you would disagree being christian, as we are born with original sin, so immediately upon birth, it is something from outside the self that is to blame.
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no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
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Each step you take you create a new place for you to step on, sort of.. ? tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


gallego I trend likely in most circumstances until its time not to.

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