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I see a baby sleeping on a boat being guided by a child. Once the baby grows it becomes and fulfill the child. Now the child sits and let him/herself be guided by an adult..
- ? Nus.

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As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Dually noted. ;)

it is just more efficient for me to address multiple personality’s simultaneously as a whole. as the the whole is the enviroment. so i waist not my words on percieved sectors.

As that is the natural state of logos and the way of things to come as many are seeing that they do the same.

i have to review my own words on multiple occasions because they speak to me as well.


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Yes.

I understand as I do the very same. And have run into issues a few times when they who I quoted, felt like I was patronizing them when in fact I was just flowing with what came through being more generalized.

The simple or the complex builds upon itself.

There seems to be a starting point, when the wave begins to rise.


A bit like releasing the the pinball on to the table.

Where's it going?


"Plays by sense of smell..."

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the sequence goes thought to dna
but
dna reacts to our real universe not our believed universe

so our thought must match what our environment is saying
and
in understanding that
we must correctly know what to think and why


but
do we know why changing our dna is the thought?
 Quoting: aether

Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


does dna itself think?
 Quoting: 0 854787


DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
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chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


But, I would imagine you would disagree being christian, as we are born with original sin, so immediately upon birth, it is something from outside the self that is to blame.
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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
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Dually noted. ;)

it is just more efficient for me to address multiple personality’s simultaneously as a whole. as the the whole is the enviroment. so i waist not my words on percieved sectors.

As that is the natural state of logos and the way of things to come as many are seeing that they do the same.

i have to review my own words on multiple occasions because they speak to me as well.


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Yes.

I understand as I do the very same. And have run into issues a few times when they who I quoted, felt like I was patronizing them when in fact I was just flowing with what came through being more generalized.

The simple or the complex builds upon itself.

There seems to be a starting point, when the wave begins to rise.


A bit like releasing the the pinball on to the table.

Where's it going?


"Plays by sense of smell..."

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


i noticed. :)

you are not responsible for anyone’s feelings. Their feelings are their own. Let go of that and you will flow more.

anyone who try's to hold you accountable for their own feelings is asking you for permission to be a victim at your expense..

through an inability to accept personal responsibility for their own dilemma, they are actually creating it.


have a good day.

i have to see about a few things.

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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
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So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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 Quoting: 0 854787


To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


But, I would imagine you would disagree being christian, as we are born with original sin, so immediately upon birth, it is something from outside the self that is to blame.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


please see my post to seer as an example to seer about posting to multiple simultaneously. As I was responding to here and you at the same time as well as a few others. Efficiently.

I would also ask you this, are you all there is? You know the answer to that.

are you your brothers keeper?
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Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


does dna itself think?
 Quoting: 0 854787


DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
 Quoting: 0 854787


Our DNA dictate a general form. The soul is not limited by it's vehicle. Hence a physical evolution, an intellectual evolution and a spiritual evolution all occuring at the same time but at different rates. The question becomes when will the three achieve unity?
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i noticed. :)

you are not responsible for anyone’s feelings. Their feelings are their own. Let go of that and you will flow more.

anyone who try's to hold you accountable for their own feelings is asking you for permission to be a victim at your expense..

through an inability to accept personal responsibility for their own dilemma, they are actually creating it.


have a good day.

i have to see about a few things.

0
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Thank you 0.

You're right.

As a matter of fact, I gave similar advice to another a couple days ago.


Advice, much easier to give than follow it seems.

Perhaps I just needed a glimpse outside my bag.

lol.


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does dna itself think?
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DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
 Quoting: 0 854787


Our DNA dictate a general form. The soul is not limited by it's vehicle. Hence a physical evolution, an intellectual evolution and a spiritual evolution all occuring at the same time but at different rates. The question becomes when will the three achieve unity?
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


the answer is within you anyway.. and if i do the thinking for you, then what good is it to think for yourself. this is not my thread. so with respect to aehter, i will decline to comment further.
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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Innocence is a state of grace, a newborn has a clean slate on a foundation based upon two million years of survival instincts. On their own instincts are a means for survival.
Within our DNA is a desire to be the center of all things, and to survive at any cost. This can never be so.

Innocence is the ability to reason about our spiritual nature in a manner where we recognize our own mortality and our imperfections. Children donot have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Innocence as far as it applies to children is a recognition that this ability to discern is not fully developed, hence any self centered behavior is provided a pass.

Innocence as a state of grace is a spiritual virtue. It is acting in a manner that doesnot violate G-d or your fellow creatures.
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I saw the reply to seer. If you were trying to relate your reply to multiple topics when directly replying to me, then no wonder it didn't make sense to me. It's probably a better idea to not try and do that. All you are doing is creating more confusion for others. You don't have to try and be all fancy like that just to try and impress people, as it may do the exact opposite. Instead, maybe be a little more personal and answer directly so your replies make sense. Either that or don't quote anyone as if you are answering then directly.

hf

Just a little of friendly advice.
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~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
 Quoting: 0 854787


Our DNA dictate a general form. The soul is not limited by it's vehicle. Hence a physical evolution, an intellectual evolution and a spiritual evolution all occuring at the same time but at different rates. The question becomes when will the three achieve unity?
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


the answer is within you anyway.. and if i do the thinking for you, then what good is it to think for yourself. this is not my thread. so with respect to aehter, i will decline to comment further.
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no offense 0, but i would never allow anyone to do my thinking for me. i also would never suggest that to anyone.
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
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Hiya Nobody...

wave


Welcome back.

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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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hey seer,,

how wonderfully kind you are,,

thankyou,,

much love,,
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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Innocence is a state of grace, a newborn has a clean slate on a foundation based upon two million years of survival instincts. On their own instincts are a means for survival.
Within our DNA is a desire to be the center of all things, and to survive at any cost. This can never be so.

Innocence is the ability to reason about our spiritual nature in a manner where we recognize our own mortality and our imperfections. Children donot have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Innocence as far as it applies to children is a recognition that this ability to discern is not fully developed, hence any self centered behavior is provided a pass.

Innocence as a state of grace is a spiritual virtue. It is acting in a manner that doesnot violate G-d or your fellow creatures.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Sure, the desire to survive is there. But what of the desire to die? It must also be there, yes?

Why do we have the desire to pro-create? Is this not the natural way of circumventing death in an selfless way?

You say that children do not have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Perhaps that is true...and perhaps that is why they look to others who are more mature for guidance.

Self-centered behavior is not 'provided a pass'. Self centered behavior is eating, drinking, breathing, shitting, crying, etc. It is all there and ingrained within us from conception.

There are instinctual behaviors and there are learned social behaviors. The 'discernment' you are speaking of is how to get what you want and need from the more mature humans around us. It is the social construct that is learned.

So, putting aside the desire to survive...which can be expressed through behaviors we all share at birth...what should be called 'inherited nature', I ask you again in perhaps more specific terms...

Isn't the lack of learned social behavior expressed through a child's innocence closer to perfection than the learned social behaviors of the mature among us?

And if this is true, what does this say about the idea of 'overcoming our inherited nature'?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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have you ever considered that all moon nasa picture could be faked to hide something?
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I have.

However, what intrigues me a bit more is the probability that the Sun and Moon would appear the same size from Earth's perspective...


During the transit of Venus, she was just a dot moving over the face of the gigantic Sun.

Yet our tiny Moon, covers the Sun perfectly from our vantage point.

WindmillSun

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Do you feel the moon to be a natural satelite or more of a build spacecraft with malevonant intent?

the moon that never sets in legend of dragoon! (moon as an Egg)
The Sphere (fear) in Prey!
and the last base in descent 2!




To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
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Have i done something to offend you? I always get left out of your greetings...and i have posted today...:-(

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I saw the reply to seer. If you were trying to relate your reply to multiple topics when directly replying to me, then no wonder it didn't make sense to me. It's probably a better idea to not try and do that. All you are doing is creating more confusion for others. You don't have to try and be all fancy like that just to try and impress people, as it may do the exact opposite. Instead, maybe be a little more personal and answer directly so your replies make sense. Either that or don't quote anyone as if you are answering then directly.

hf

Just a little of friendly advice.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


It is not being "fancy". Lol!

It is communication that is singular.

When you recognise and interpret information in synchronization. What dial ect is that?

When sun speaks to you and you communicate back with it. What language does it speak. Light, warmth, life. You intern communicate back with it.



What im doing is speaking at the singular level through the avenue of intuition.



In order that you may learn its language.

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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 27238985


Have i done something to offend you? I always get left out of your greetings...and i have posted today...:-(

White feather
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- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 27238985


Hey Nobody! Have a beer for me. Got to wait until I get off work.
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 27238985


Have i done something to offend you? I always get left out of your greetings...and i have posted today...:-(

White feather
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 Quoting: 1908247


What is that supposed to mean...?

Wf
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please accept this ones deepest apologies white feather,,

the realisation that blue skys was also forgotten has jast occurred,,

w/f your posts are always enjoyed greatly,,

no offence was intended by you mis=clusion,,

much love,,
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I saw the reply to seer. If you were trying to relate your reply to multiple topics when directly replying to me, then no wonder it didn't make sense to me. It's probably a better idea to not try and do that. All you are doing is creating more confusion for others. You don't have to try and be all fancy like that just to try and impress people, as it may do the exact opposite. Instead, maybe be a little more personal and answer directly so your replies make sense. Either that or don't quote anyone as if you are answering then directly.

hf

Just a little of friendly advice.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


It is not being "fancy". Lol!

It is communication that is singular.

When you recognise and interpret information in synchronization. What dial ect is that?

When sun speaks to you and you communicate back with it. What language does it speak. Light, warmth, life. You intern communicate back with it.



What im doing is speaking at the singular level through the avenue of intuition.



In order that you may learn its language.

0
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I know your shenanigans, lol

It is difficult following you sometimes, because I do not read every post you may be responding to in a singular reply. So, it is confusing because you post stuff that was irrelevant to what was quoted. And, I understand why you are doing it, but it creates confusion because the answer lies outside the quoted material. So I end up saying, what the fuck is he talking about. His reply had hardly anything to do with what was just discussed.

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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
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Have i done something to offend you? I always get left out of your greetings...and i have posted today...:-(

White feather
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[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: 1908247


What is that supposed to mean...?

Wf
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Idk, its just a nice song and you reminded me of it tounge

Being shadowed.. not cozy.
- ? Nus.

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please accept this ones deepest apologies white feather,,

the realisation that blue skys was also forgotten has jast occurred,,

w/f your posts are always enjoyed greatly,,

no offence was intended by you mis=clusion,,

much love,,
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Thank you...as i enjoy yours....

And i love blue skies too! Hiya

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thanks w/f,,

much love,,
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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Innocence is a state of grace, a newborn has a clean slate on a foundation based upon two million years of survival instincts. On their own instincts are a means for survival.
Within our DNA is a desire to be the center of all things, and to survive at any cost. This can never be so.

Innocence is the ability to reason about our spiritual nature in a manner where we recognize our own mortality and our imperfections. Children donot have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Innocence as far as it applies to children is a recognition that this ability to discern is not fully developed, hence any self centered behavior is provided a pass.

Innocence as a state of grace is a spiritual virtue. It is acting in a manner that doesnot violate G-d or your fellow creatures.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Sure, the desire to survive is there. But what of the desire to die? It must also be there, yes?

Why do we have the desire to pro-create? Is this not the natural way of circumventing death in an selfless way?

You say that children do not have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Perhaps that is true...and perhaps that is why they look to others who are more mature for guidance.

Self-centered behavior is not 'provided a pass'. Self centered behavior is eating, drinking, breathing, shitting, crying, etc. It is all there and ingrained within us from conception.

There are instinctual behaviors and there are learned social behaviors. The 'discernment' you are speaking of is how to get what you want and need from the more mature humans around us. It is the social construct that is learned.

So, putting aside the desire to survive...which can be expressed through behaviors we all share at birth...what should be called 'inherited nature', I ask you again in perhaps more specific terms...

Isn't the lack of learned social behavior expressed through a child's innocence closer to perfection than the learned social behaviors of the mature among us?

And if this is true, what does this say about the idea of 'overcoming our inherited nature'?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


The innocence of a child refers to the idea that a child is uninhibited by social norms. The child see no fault in others and is willing to accept and trust unconditionally. That is my own imterpretation of a childs innocence.

In the times we live in this innocence has become a liability. North is South and East is West to paraphrase the Seer.

I don't seek acceptance, nor do I seek agreement, I find that a ... nevermind. If you cannot see my line of thought, so be it. Although we are are brothers keeper, that particular notion and many like them seem not to apply in these times. So I have learned to accept these facts. I don't agree with these renunciations but when they serve my purpose I will draw them like a sword. So fair warning don't cry foul.
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have you ever considered that all moon nasa picture could be faked to hide something?
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


I have.

However, what intrigues me a bit more is the probability that the Sun and Moon would appear the same size from Earth's perspective...


During the transit of Venus, she was just a dot moving over the face of the gigantic Sun.

Yet our tiny Moon, covers the Sun perfectly from our vantage point.

WindmillSun

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Do you feel the moon to be a natural satelite or more of a build spacecraft with malevonant intent?

the moon that never sets in legend of dragoon! (moon as an Egg)
The Sphere (fear) in Prey!
and the last base in descent 2!




 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


hmm

I believe the Moon is necessary for the way Earth and her inhabitants exist upon it.

Whether it is there through a natural or unnatural process, is beside the point to me.


I have considered this something like this perhaps...




As in the Kolbrin it was stated after the Destroyers last passing that,

'one of the Moons had been taken away.'

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