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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
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i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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Good Morning Aether Ladies and Gentlemen hugs

we live in a thought wave universe everything is affected by the emotions we put out including our environmenthmm
are those thoughts also carried in our dna and as it changes are they released into the environment once again thru our changing emotions relative to the thoughts being released? cyclical event? the torus self perpetuated?

ripplessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

( lol that just kinda spilled in sorry )
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the sequence goes thought to dna
but
dna reacts to our real universe not our believed universe

so our thought must match what our environment is saying
and
in understanding that
we must correctly know what to think and why


but
do we know why changing our dna is the thought?
 Quoting: aether

Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
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does dna itself think?
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Seer I honestly possess few ulterior motives, I'm only interested in exploring and enjoying myself. I do have favorites although the feelings are not always mutual.tounge
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Linear time
Unlike many other religions, whose sense of time was basically cyclic, Judaism and Christianity worked to preserve a written linear history and mythic timeline, running from the creation to the end of the world. For example, in Aztec mythology the universe is created and destroyed repeatedly in a circular concept of History, but in Judaism and Christianity, the universe has been created only once and will be destroyed only once, and after its destruction it will be restored to perfection once and for all, having a lineal concept of time. Likewise, Islamic mythology has a linear time perspective, running from the creation to the end of the world and the establishment of paradise on heaven. Qur'an 56 describes the end times, the judgment of the dead, and the eternal reward and punishment of saints and sinners—an eschatological mythology similar to the storyline of the Christian Book of Revelation and to some elements in the Jewish Book of Isaiah and Book of Daniel.
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tricky topic
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Seer I honestly possess few ulterior motives, I'm only interested in exploring and enjoying myself. I do have favorites although the feelings are not always mutual.tounge
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Excellent.

Then you find yourself in perfect company.

:)
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca
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Good Morning Aether Ladies and Gentlemen hugs

we live in a thought wave universe everything is affected by the emotions we put out including our environmenthmm
are those thoughts also carried in our dna and as it changes are they released into the environment once again thru our changing emotions relative to the thoughts being released? cyclical event? the torus self perpetuated?

ripplessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

( lol that just kinda spilled in sorry )
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


the sequence goes thought to dna
but
dna reacts to our real universe not our believed universe

so our thought must match what our environment is saying
and
in understanding that
we must correctly know what to think and why


but
do we know why changing our dna is the thought?
 Quoting: aether

Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
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does dna itself think?
 Quoting: 0 854787


DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
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lol. have you forgot, that what is presented through me has multiple contexts and speaks to the person who is being addressed as well as the others who are observing it.

dear seer, i have been speaking to you the entire time. if i do not respond to you personally it is because you have the answer.


afa starting another thread, i am still weighing and meausring its purpose and disposition through added dimensiona and intuitive review.

i will consult a few i have met along the path, elites in their own rights as to their thoughts before its creation or not.

how are you.

go ducks!

tounge
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I see.

Perhaps I am just overly sensitive.

I often feel when people stop talking to me directly, it is due to a perception of my having wronged that person.

I can't tell you how many times I have revisited our last conversation concerning the firewood and water, looking if I had perhaps insulted you which was not my intention.

I am glad to hear I was paranoid.

lol.


I'm not really a huge Duck fan. I just like getting together with my friends and brother, having some drinks, and great conversation.

Great conversation=my air.

hugs
 Quoting: Seer777


Dually noted. ;)

it is just more efficient for me to address multiple personality’s simultaneously as a whole. as the the whole is the enviroment. so i waist not my words on percieved sectors.

As that is the natural state of logos and the way of things to come as many are seeing that they do the same.

i have to review my own words on multiple occasions because they speak to me as well.


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Seer I honestly possess few ulterior motives, I'm only interested in exploring and enjoying myself. I do have favorites although the feelings are not always mutual.tounge
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Excellent.

Then you find yourself in perfect company.

:)
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I don't know, most don't find my definition of enjoyable to their liking!tounge
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We always are buddy.
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no offense but not me.

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Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
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I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
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Each step you take you create a new place for you to step on, sort of.. ? tounge
- ? Nus.

-No cause is a lost cause if there is a fool to fight for it.


-'The day which we fear as our last is but the birthday of eternity.'

-You Hold Witness I Witness
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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


Each step you take you create a new place for you to step on, sort of.. ? tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


too funny , when I read this I got a vision of a road falling in front of a man walking and it was based on the decisions he was making. It would fractalize in some places and in other places it remained true to form and was a steady path ... hmm interesting
“Out of this war, the greatest since the beginning of history, a new world must be born, a world that would justify the sacrifices offered by humanity. This new world must be a world in which there shall be no exploitation of the weak by the strong, of the good by the evil; where there will be no humiliation of the poor by the violence of the rich; where the products of intellect, science and art will serve society for the betterment and beautification of life, and not the individuals for achieving wealth. This new world shall not be a world of the downtrodden and humiliated, but of free men and women and free nations, equal in dignity and respect for Mankind and Nature.”
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the clever part of the politics on this topic is to have all three branches of our planets dominant belief expecting their branches savior
because
tradition tells
when they do not come
it is the peoples fault for not being righteous enough
then

the torments are god willed because of the peoples lack of righteous

gets everyone in authority out of trouble

the politics of god tounge
 Quoting: aether


chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
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But, I would imagine you would disagree being christian, as we are born with original sin, so immediately upon birth, it is something from outside the self that is to blame.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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no offense but not me.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Once you understand it and accept it you can travel much faster.

But of course you will remain one step behind tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


I subscribed to my own interpretations unless otherwise proven mistaken.
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Each step you take you create a new place for you to step on, sort of.. ? tounge
 Quoting: 1908247


gallego I trend likely in most circumstances until its time not to.
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I see a baby sleeping on a boat being guided by a child. Once the baby grows it becomes and fulfill the child. Now the child sits and let him/herself be guided by an adult..
- ? Nus.

-No cause is a lost cause if there is a fool to fight for it.


-'The day which we fear as our last is but the birthday of eternity.'

-You Hold Witness I Witness
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Dually noted. ;)

it is just more efficient for me to address multiple personality’s simultaneously as a whole. as the the whole is the enviroment. so i waist not my words on percieved sectors.

As that is the natural state of logos and the way of things to come as many are seeing that they do the same.

i have to review my own words on multiple occasions because they speak to me as well.


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Yes.

I understand as I do the very same. And have run into issues a few times when they who I quoted, felt like I was patronizing them when in fact I was just flowing with what came through being more generalized.

The simple or the complex builds upon itself.

There seems to be a starting point, when the wave begins to rise.


A bit like releasing the the pinball on to the table.

Where's it going?


"Plays by sense of smell..."

tounge
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the sequence goes thought to dna
but
dna reacts to our real universe not our believed universe

so our thought must match what our environment is saying
and
in understanding that
we must correctly know what to think and why


but
do we know why changing our dna is the thought?
 Quoting: aether

Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
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does dna itself think?
 Quoting: 0 854787


DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
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chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

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To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


But, I would imagine you would disagree being christian, as we are born with original sin, so immediately upon birth, it is something from outside the self that is to blame.
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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
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Dually noted. ;)

it is just more efficient for me to address multiple personality’s simultaneously as a whole. as the the whole is the enviroment. so i waist not my words on percieved sectors.

As that is the natural state of logos and the way of things to come as many are seeing that they do the same.

i have to review my own words on multiple occasions because they speak to me as well.


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Yes.

I understand as I do the very same. And have run into issues a few times when they who I quoted, felt like I was patronizing them when in fact I was just flowing with what came through being more generalized.

The simple or the complex builds upon itself.

There seems to be a starting point, when the wave begins to rise.


A bit like releasing the the pinball on to the table.

Where's it going?


"Plays by sense of smell..."

tounge
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i noticed. :)

you are not responsible for anyone’s feelings. Their feelings are their own. Let go of that and you will flow more.

anyone who try's to hold you accountable for their own feelings is asking you for permission to be a victim at your expense..

through an inability to accept personal responsibility for their own dilemma, they are actually creating it.


have a good day.

i have to see about a few things.

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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
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So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
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The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

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chuckle

I suppose it does, lol. What sucks though, is it is a self-defeating ideology. We are victims of god's wrath.

Thread: Disempowerment through Playing the Victim
 Quoting: Saptaparna


i disagree. that is the perspective of a few who dwell within this place. However, that is not the majority. The percentage of those who view glp comparatively to the greater world population is that of less then ½ percent. the percentage of those who dwell within the whole earth that maintain that perspective is smaller perportionate to the majority.



Judgment is in the eye of the beholder.

The Aramaic term for forgiveness is shbag.
Shbag is defined as “to unlock or unhinge your mind.”


the core of christiantity is grace is greater then judgement. In grace there is no victim and because there is no judgement.

0
 Quoting: 0 854787


To me, if you place the blame of misfortune on something outside yourself, then you are giving up the power to do something about it. If you play the victim, you are disempowering the self and are instead relying on something outside yourself to fix it, instead of relying on the self to fix it and grow from it.

I'm jumping around a bit in this brief post, but it is explained in full at the link.
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But, I would imagine you would disagree being christian, as we are born with original sin, so immediately upon birth, it is something from outside the self that is to blame.
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please see my post to seer as an example to seer about posting to multiple simultaneously. As I was responding to here and you at the same time as well as a few others. Efficiently.

I would also ask you this, are you all there is? You know the answer to that.

are you your brothers keeper?
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Our DNA provides the capability, our thoughts are capable of learning, our learning inspires imagination, imagination alters our perspective, our perspective is limited only by our own self imposed controls, remove self imposed controls and thoughts become capable of altering DNA.

Our DNA has within it a range of genetic possibilities, some active some dormant. What is to say that by means of consciously willing dormant traits to manifest that such things to couldnot be aroused.

Evolution undoubtedly works on this principle. Environmental forces produce a need, the need produces a change in our DNA makeup. So if an environmental force can ellicit such change, why cannot the simple willing ellicit the same change?

As an example, personal projections shape our bodies characteristics all the time. The mind shape our body image, our body responds. Delayed aging by yogis, super strength in some, ESP in others. Wishful thinking by young boys for stature. Wishful thinking by young girls for maturity bring about early ovulation. I think it is important to address mind over matter when addressing our ability to change and regulate our own DNA.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


does dna itself think?
 Quoting: 0 854787


DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
 Quoting: 0 854787


Our DNA dictate a general form. The soul is not limited by it's vehicle. Hence a physical evolution, an intellectual evolution and a spiritual evolution all occuring at the same time but at different rates. The question becomes when will the three achieve unity?
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i noticed. :)

you are not responsible for anyone’s feelings. Their feelings are their own. Let go of that and you will flow more.

anyone who try's to hold you accountable for their own feelings is asking you for permission to be a victim at your expense..

through an inability to accept personal responsibility for their own dilemma, they are actually creating it.


have a good day.

i have to see about a few things.

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Thank you 0.

You're right.

As a matter of fact, I gave similar advice to another a couple days ago.


Advice, much easier to give than follow it seems.

Perhaps I just needed a glimpse outside my bag.

lol.


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does dna itself think?
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DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
 Quoting: Esq 20093181


it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
 Quoting: 0 854787


Our DNA dictate a general form. The soul is not limited by it's vehicle. Hence a physical evolution, an intellectual evolution and a spiritual evolution all occuring at the same time but at different rates. The question becomes when will the three achieve unity?
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the answer is within you anyway.. and if i do the thinking for you, then what good is it to think for yourself. this is not my thread. so with respect to aehter, i will decline to comment further.
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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
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So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
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Innocence is a state of grace, a newborn has a clean slate on a foundation based upon two million years of survival instincts. On their own instincts are a means for survival.
Within our DNA is a desire to be the center of all things, and to survive at any cost. This can never be so.

Innocence is the ability to reason about our spiritual nature in a manner where we recognize our own mortality and our imperfections. Children donot have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Innocence as far as it applies to children is a recognition that this ability to discern is not fully developed, hence any self centered behavior is provided a pass.

Innocence as a state of grace is a spiritual virtue. It is acting in a manner that doesnot violate G-d or your fellow creatures.
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I saw the reply to seer. If you were trying to relate your reply to multiple topics when directly replying to me, then no wonder it didn't make sense to me. It's probably a better idea to not try and do that. All you are doing is creating more confusion for others. You don't have to try and be all fancy like that just to try and impress people, as it may do the exact opposite. Instead, maybe be a little more personal and answer directly so your replies make sense. Either that or don't quote anyone as if you are answering then directly.

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DNA has only one need and that is to replicate. I imagine if that need were threaten it would follow the rule of survival of the most adaptive.
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it in and of itself is nothing but a "blue" print. it is the logical part of the term biological.

the "blue" print is designed to filimented by the soul.

however, the biological body is not all there is.
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Our DNA dictate a general form. The soul is not limited by it's vehicle. Hence a physical evolution, an intellectual evolution and a spiritual evolution all occuring at the same time but at different rates. The question becomes when will the three achieve unity?
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the answer is within you anyway.. and if i do the thinking for you, then what good is it to think for yourself. this is not my thread. so with respect to aehter, i will decline to comment further.
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no offense 0, but i would never allow anyone to do my thinking for me. i also would never suggest that to anyone.
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
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ahh,, german beer night!,,

good afternoon seer,, bea,, aether,, sap,, jb,, brazil,, dion and 0,,

the most perfect delightful company too share a cold beer with,,

cheers,, indeed,,


much love,,
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Hiya Nobody...

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hey seer,,

how wonderfully kind you are,,

thankyou,,

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I believe we live to overcome an inherited nature . If we were born perfect, would life have meaning?
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So what about a child's innocence?

If behavior is learned and the innocence of children is inherently obvious, doesn't the observed trend run directly against everything you are implying above?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Innocence is a state of grace, a newborn has a clean slate on a foundation based upon two million years of survival instincts. On their own instincts are a means for survival.
Within our DNA is a desire to be the center of all things, and to survive at any cost. This can never be so.

Innocence is the ability to reason about our spiritual nature in a manner where we recognize our own mortality and our imperfections. Children donot have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Innocence as far as it applies to children is a recognition that this ability to discern is not fully developed, hence any self centered behavior is provided a pass.

Innocence as a state of grace is a spiritual virtue. It is acting in a manner that doesnot violate G-d or your fellow creatures.
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Sure, the desire to survive is there. But what of the desire to die? It must also be there, yes?

Why do we have the desire to pro-create? Is this not the natural way of circumventing death in an selfless way?

You say that children do not have the maturity to understand their own psyche. Perhaps that is true...and perhaps that is why they look to others who are more mature for guidance.

Self-centered behavior is not 'provided a pass'. Self centered behavior is eating, drinking, breathing, shitting, crying, etc. It is all there and ingrained within us from conception.

There are instinctual behaviors and there are learned social behaviors. The 'discernment' you are speaking of is how to get what you want and need from the more mature humans around us. It is the social construct that is learned.

So, putting aside the desire to survive...which can be expressed through behaviors we all share at birth...what should be called 'inherited nature', I ask you again in perhaps more specific terms...

Isn't the lack of learned social behavior expressed through a child's innocence closer to perfection than the learned social behaviors of the mature among us?

And if this is true, what does this say about the idea of 'overcoming our inherited nature'?
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