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Sunshine (2007 film)

Sunshine is a 2007 British science fiction film directed by Danny Boyle and written by Alex Garland about the crew of a spacecraft on a dangerous mission to the Sun...........
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seems to provide a "flavor" of his thought
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it feels like he has no clue of our environment and is emotional about it
feels emotionally marooned within fear of all that is not him and desperately desires to reach/discover something that provides an answer to his fear
unable to make sense of living with fear he reaches out for something he desires to exist
other life forms ?
maybe
god ?
maybe
entities?
maybe
i don`t know because he doesn`t know
what i do know is what he knows
none on the list are making him feel better this moment

yuck

poor chap tounge
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the show formed from the mind of this man seer

Danny Boyle
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Thanks aether.

I was just going through Boston.com The Big Picture when I stumbled on the image.

Here is link to the rest.
[link to www.boston.com]

I thought the hospital beds and nurses had a bit of a creep factor. Along with the 'giant baby head' which reminded me of this image when I saw it.


AgeofAquarius



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it feels like he has no clue of our environment and is emotional about it
feels emotionally marooned within fear of all that is not him and desperately desires to reach/discover something that provides an answer to his fear
unable to make sense of living with fear he reaches out for something he desires to exist
other life forms ?
maybe
god ?
maybe
entities?
maybe
i don`t know because he doesn`t know
what i do know is what he knows
none on the list are making him feel better this moment

yuck

poor chap tounge
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Love this.

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I thought the hospital beds and nurses had a bit of a creep factor. Along with the 'giant baby head' which reminded me of this image when I saw it.
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creepy with no reason to be there

but

Daniel Boyle was born on 20 October 1956 in Radcliffe, historically a part of Lancashire. Although he now describes himself as a "spiritual atheist", he was raised in a working-class Irish Catholic environment by his English father (of Irish descent) and Irish mother (from Ballinasloe in County Galway). Boyle was an altar boy for eight years and his mother had the priesthood in mind for her son, but aged 14 he was persuaded by a local priest not to transfer from his local school to a seminary near Wigan
 Quoting: observation

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issues there for him it feels and his message is children are formed into our world and "mistreated" by adults
it seems to be his theme
yes
part cause of his "all over the place thoughts"
looking for answers he believes can and should be provided from birth
is his point
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Knowledge Graph

The Knowledge Graph is a knowledge base used by Google to enhance its search engine's search results with semantic-search information gathered from a wide variety of sources. Knowledge Graph display was added to Google's search engine in 2012 starting in the United States, having been announced on May 16, 2012. It provides structured and detailed information about the topic in addition to a list of links to other sites. The goal is that users would be able to use this information to resolve their query without having to navigate to other sites and assemble the information themselves.

According to Google, this information is derived from many sources, including the CIA World Factbook, Freebase and Wikipedia. The feature is similar in intent to answer engines such as Ask Jeeves and Wolfram Alpha. As of 2012, its semantic network contained about 3.5 billion attributes which are used to understand the meaning of the keywords entered for the search
 Quoting: observation

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Google Beefs Up ‘Knowledge Graph,’ Takes it to Apple’s Turf

August 8, 2012,

Google, which recently began one of the biggest transformations of the company’s Web-search engine, said Wednesday that it was taking the “next baby steps” toward realizing the dream of artificial intelligence: a computer that understands the world as humans do.

In Google terms, that means a search engine that understands “exactly what you mean and giving you back exactly what you want.”
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this is what we are detecting
the "pregame" is running in the "master" system that all systems below adhere to (world wide web)
so google, apple etc form into line rolling the new (to them) system out as they are forced to function in reality as we described

it`s up and running in the "shop front " now, the world wide web
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If something was truly going to be activated, or someone wished to activate something, the word would not have to be said aloud, right?
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I think I was "activated" by an orb or "light" in the sky in 2007. It "unlocked" something is me or it "activated" something. It lasted for about a minute, I was on my knees looking out of my bedroom window which was an apt/loft in a building that was built as a Masonic Temple , called the Lambskin Temple. I could actually feel the "light" , before it happened I saw these lights or orbs moving across the sky , kind of in pairs but not close to each other , the always moved in the same direction and in the same line or lane , almost like a highway lane. Shortley after I first began to notice them , some of them would "blink" at me while passing by , that blew me away because it seemed as if "they" we're CONSIOUS of my presence and could sense that I could see them, as if they are always there but we can't see them. So while I was on my knees watching them one time , one of them stopped and started to get much brighter & that's when it happened. Like I said , it lasted for about a minute and I have never ever in my entire life felt anything like it before. It was a euphoric feeling of love which I can't describe. I felt safer than I have ever felt in my life. After the amazement of what just happened started to wear off , I was instanly flooded with new thoughts and ideas about life and the world. It totally changed my life , for the better I think. I'm still not really sure what happened but I'm almost positive that Sirius was involved.
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If something was truly going to be activated, or someone wished to activate something, the word would not have to be said aloud, right?
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I think I was "activated" by an orb or "light" in the sky in 2007. It "unlocked" something is me or it "activated" something. It lasted for about a minute, I was on my knees looking out of my bedroom window which was an apt/loft in a building that was built as a Masonic Temple , called the Lambskin Temple. I could actually feel the "light" , before it happened I saw these lights or orbs moving across the sky , kind of in pairs but not close to each other , the always moved in the same direction and in the same line or lane , almost like a highway lane. Shortley after I first began to notice them , some of them would "blink" at me while passing by , that blew me away because it seemed as if "they" we're CONSIOUS of my presence and could sense that I could see them, as if they are always there but we can't see them. So while I was on my knees watching them one time , one of them stopped and started to get much brighter & that's when it happened. Like I said , it lasted for about a minute and I have never ever in my entire life felt anything like it before.

It was a euphoric feeling of love which I can't describe.

I felt safer than I have ever felt in my life. After the amazement of what just happened started to wear off , I was instanly flooded with new thoughts and ideas about life and the world. It totally changed my life , for the better I think.

I'm still not really sure what happened but I'm almost positive that Sirius was involved.

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I call it Bliss...


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i had not noticed the sirus part of that reply !
and i was asking, why name it sirus a few hours ago

LOL Aether!
this helps stoner does me anyways
It is friday cheer
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did you see this one I had also back from Sept?

anim face
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i did it`s lovely

i should explain that i was mellow, i thought, but direct "contact" with what you show me instantly enhances mellow

which prompts me to tell
as an only child i was content being without human company frequently but at the age of around 7 i awoke in the night and was uncomfortable by the complete darkness
i had gone to bed while it was light hence had curtains drawn and no lights in the house which was my parents custom so the black of my bedroom felt uncomfortable to me
a light so bright that it was the same eyes shut or open but not damage to look at came on right in front of my eyes as in , real close and pulsated giving me comfort and mellow until i fell asleep
that occurred every time i awoke or could not sleep in dark for several years until i naturally become non fearful of total dark and i never once desired to tell anyone
in later life i discovered the plasma orbs in our sky and my light are the same
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interesting they got 72 = 7 + 2 = 9 right to for identity
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What does this mean?
I thought that prophecy was already passed.
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it has been completed fancy
i was confirming detail for my own satisfaction with that post
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i had not noticed the sirus part of that reply !
and i was asking, why name it sirus a few hours ago


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The Anishnabeg who have these beings as allies are starting to come together.
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that is siriusly fantastic news

right on schedule too

the dog days of summer are naturally impacted in the exact same manner as everything else during mega cycles like this which means both our magnificent sun and its beautiful momma star sirius will be blazing in full glory in the coming days/weeks

someone let the dogs out and they fled like the wind

these are now the thunderbird days of summer

and so the long ice cold winter ends...and IT begins...
 Quoting: Xenophon


sirius A


Google SkySirius

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wink


Loved your story aether.

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Sunshine (2007 film)

Sunshine is a 2007 British science fiction film directed by Danny Boyle and written by Alex Garland about the crew of a spacecraft on a dangerous mission to the Sun...........
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

seems to provide a "flavor" of his thought
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Good movie. Saw it a couple years ago now.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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"One star he set there before all others as a guardian and watchman, the Dog-star
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The "Dog-star" mentioned in the quoted text above is translated from Greek use of the Egyptian word "Sothis," which was used both for the star Sirius (the Dog Star) and the planet Venus, and meant something like "bright" or "shining." In Egyptian it takes the masculine form for Sirius and feminine for Venus, the difference being an ending d or t. The Greeks didn't differentiate, or didn't care. There is the additional confusion in the practice in antiquity of appointing stars as the 'spirits' of the planets, like every person (in Egypt) would be stellated after death. Sirius was the brightest star and Venus was the brightest planet. Sirius was 'the star of Venus.'
The word "Dog-star" is used in the English translation of Plutarch, who used "Sothis" as a translation of "Tishtrya" from his source, the Zoroastrian Zend-Avesta scriptures. "Tishtrya" could also be translated as "shining." "Tishtrya" is Venus.

As noted above by Plutarch, the planet Venus remained after the battle to course across the sky. In antiquity Venus is variously called Neith, Isis, Hathor, Athena, Inanna, and other names, and is often identified as a warrior goddess.

After 3114 BC, Venus circled the Sun as a planet, and for the next 2500 years displayed a gigantic plasma tail, stretching some 30 or 50 million miles away from the Sun. Because Venus is an inner planet, the full extent of its plasma tail would be seen from the vantage point of Earth most of the time. Today the tail has dropped to dark mode. Today Venus also still shows its youth by its excessive heat radiating away, continuously erupting volcanoes, continuous lightning strikes, and curious sparsity of craters.

Venus was alternately represented as a charmer and a terror. That she remained venerated, despite occasional destructive near-approaches with Earth, is probably due to the fact that Venus was the most spectacular object in the sky between 3100 BC and 685 BC, an image intermittently reinforced by being seen at various distances and various parts of the sky and drawing closer every two years or so. She must have been seen as everyone's friend and companion throughout life. In Babylonian (Chaldean) records Venus is not recognized as a 'planet' until after 600 BC, as also in Hindu records.
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Science : Planet's tail of the unexpected
31 May 1997

ONE of our neighbouring planets can still pack a few surprises, it seems. Using satellite data, an international team of researchers has found that Venus sports a giant, ion-packed tail that stretches almost far enough to tickle the Earth when the two planets are in line with the Sun.

"I didn't expect to find it," says team member Marcia Neugebauer of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. "It's a really strong signal, and there's no doubt it's real." ..................
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felt important ss,,


it was a flash of mind ,, of a way too hurt no one,, a way of truth recognition,, yet too please both sides,,



it seemed important to share with all those involved within these threads,,

if only too help stop,, all those fighting amongst themselves,,

a relief of sorts via a passive virtue,, as many are way too hung up on this nobody stuff,,

its not healthy for so many too feel mesiah syndrome,,

and others mental stability is as important to this one as others intention is to all,,


afterall one effects the other,, and this episode will outweigh the personally received regressive responce,,


it wont happen again,,

the limits of overstepping the line is known,,

yet however,, this time it was required,,

from now on this nobody is gone,,

that means no more posts,,

trust this,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 21540747


Definitely a good point.

Was thinking of how it contrasted with a quote on aether's thread:

it feels like he has no clue of our environment and is emotional about it
feels emotionally marooned within fear of all that is not him and desperately desires to reach/discover something that provides an answer to his fear
unable to make sense of living with fear he reaches out for something he desires to exist
other life forms ?
maybe
god ?
maybe
entities?
maybe
i don`t know because he doesn`t know
what i do know is what he knows
none on the list are making him feel better this moment

yuck

poor chap tounge
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swinger, I met one of the cousins the other day (july 27)

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felt important ss,,


it was a flash of mind ,, of a way too hurt no one,, a way of truth recognition,, yet too please both sides,,



it seemed important to share with all those involved within these threads,,

if only too help stop,, all those fighting amongst themselves,,

a relief of sorts via a passive virtue,, as many are way too hung up on this nobody stuff,,

its not healthy for so many too feel mesiah syndrome,,

and others mental stability is as important to this one as others intention is to all,,


afterall one effects the other,, and this episode will outweigh the personally received regressive responce,,


it wont happen again,,

the limits of overstepping the line is known,,

yet however,, this time it was required,,

from now on this nobody is gone,,

that means no more posts,,

trust this,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 21540747


Definitely a good point.

Was thinking of how it contrasted with a quote on aether's thread:

it feels like he has no clue of our environment and is emotional about it
feels emotionally marooned within fear of all that is not him and desperately desires to reach/discover something that provides an answer to his fear
unable to make sense of living with fear he reaches out for something he desires to exist
other life forms ?
maybe
god ?
maybe
entities?
maybe
i don`t know because he doesn`t know
what i do know is what he knows
none on the list are making him feel better this moment

yuck

poor chap tounge
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: just a dude


Aether's response was in reference to this image from the Opening Ceremonies...


OpeningCeremonyB

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felt important ss,,


it was a flash of mind ,, of a way too hurt no one,, a way of truth recognition,, yet too please both sides,,



it seemed important to share with all those involved within these threads,,

if only too help stop,, all those fighting amongst themselves,,

a relief of sorts via a passive virtue,, as many are way too hung up on this nobody stuff,,

its not healthy for so many too feel mesiah syndrome,,

and others mental stability is as important to this one as others intention is to all,,


afterall one effects the other,, and this episode will outweigh the personally received regressive responce,,


it wont happen again,,

the limits of overstepping the line is known,,

yet however,, this time it was required,,

from now on this nobody is gone,,

that means no more posts,,

trust this,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 21540747


Definitely a good point.

Was thinking of how it contrasted with a quote on aether's thread:

it feels like he has no clue of our environment and is emotional about it
feels emotionally marooned within fear of all that is not him and desperately desires to reach/discover something that provides an answer to his fear
unable to make sense of living with fear he reaches out for something he desires to exist
other life forms ?
maybe
god ?
maybe
entities?
maybe
i don`t know because he doesn`t know
what i do know is what he knows
none on the list are making him feel better this moment

yuck

poor chap tounge
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: just a dude


Aether's response was in reference to this image from the Opening Ceremonies...


:OpeningCeremonyB:

hf
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And a very astute observation of the contrast it is. Especially in light of the image.
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The Diamond Fields of the Mind
Aug 09, 2012

A star becomes a diamond?

A recent press release announced the “discovery” of a planet in orbit around a pulsar that is thought to have once been a star, but is now a planetary body composed of something similar to compressed carbon, or diamond.

The reason for the supposed density and composition assumptions is that the “planet” was seen in an orbit around the pulsar that is deemed impossible to consensus astrophysicists. As announced by the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy in Bonn, Germany, pulsar J1719-1438 rotates more than 10,000 times per minute, has a mass of about 1.4 times that of our Sun, but is only 20 kilometers in radius. What is it about the planet’s orbit that causes the assumption it is crystalline and extremely dense?

The first step in this chain of circumstances is neutron star theory. Pulsars are neutron stars is the second link. As the theory posits, a neutron star comes into being when a star with at least five times the mass of the Sun implodes, shedding its outer layers in a supernova. Since the star is no longer able to shield itself from its own immense gravity with thermonuclear fusion theory, gravitational acceleration theory takes over, pulling all the electrons in the remaining stellar matter into the nuclei. Two more links........................
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emotionally marooned and the consequences of being so springs to mind
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And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth
 Quoting: genesis6


that is translating that modern man had arrived and was growing in number globally and whatever caused their appearance was noticeable enough to define differing god era. as in:
when modern man appeared the indigenous population of earth was labeled "sons of god" denoting their place in succession from god before modern mans arrival

and
the indigenous were able to mate with modern man and the resulting children formed personalities similar to the indigenous personality, different from modern mans

it was a time when the original god (saturn) was still seen to be in control
or
they are referring to the invisible god whom controlled all visible gods
either way
the story says god limited modern mans lifespan to 120 years unlike the indigenous people whose lifespan continued until they choose to stop living
variable individual choice

this occurred when our field of gravity still supported giant lifeforms in comparison to modern man and indigenous people and it continued to do so

the indigenous people are not refereed to as giants in this quote

it then tells the imagined reason for the final catastrophe when earth got it`s water from the plasma sheath of saturn breaking up

this event removed all giant lifeforms, the indigenous people (sons of god) and all but a few modern man
hence there were no more inter marriages between indigenous and modern man
but
we must assume that the ancestors of the inter marriages that were common before the "flood" remained active within some of the survivors "modern man"
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swinger, I met one of the cousins the other day (july 27)

mantis1:
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You did?

hmm
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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25 And they returned from searching of the land after forty days.

26 And they went and came to Moses, and to Aaron, and to all the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the wilderness of Paran, to Kadesh; and brought back word unto them, and unto all the congregation, and shewed them the fruit of the land.

27 And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.

28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.

29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

30 And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.

31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.

32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
 Quoting: numbers 13


the king james version does not tell giants are nephillm

in the english standard version it does:

33 And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.
 Quoting: Numbers 13:33 (English Standard Version)
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The term “Nephilim,” as portrayed in the more recent translations of the Bible (ASV, RSV, NIV), is found in two Old Testament texts—here in Genesis 6:4 and in Numbers 13:33. In the King James Version, the original term is rendered by “giants.”
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well that is clever
our steering was pointing us to recent beliefs that nephilim are sons of a anak , which they are not and nor does our bible tell us they are
this is fantasy in the program and this is how the program forces reality to function when we notice fantasy
this starts the process of shape changing information because the input of information matches reality that exists to be seen and not the fantasy which has no reality to sustain it

thus the shape can change because the information utilized to effect the shape change contains the same reality (information) the shape forms into thus there is no loss of integrity (tensegrity) while the change takes place. as in:
shape (reality) does not break during proccess of shape changing

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so now we can keep track of our "sacred" scripts being altered to promote that which never existed to be said
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good morning swinger
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Anak

Anak depending upon the reference) was a well-known figure during the conquest of Canaan by the Israelites who, according to the Book of Numbers, was a forefather of the Anakites
 Quoting: observation

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20 For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, and that they might have no favour, but that he might destroy them, as the Lord commanded Moses.

21 And at that time came Joshua, and cut off the Anakims from the mountains, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the mountains of Judah, and from all the mountains of Israel: Joshua destroyed them utterly with their cities.

22 There was none of the Anakims left in the land of the children of Israel: only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod, there remained.

23 So Joshua took the whole land, according to all that the Lord said unto Moses; and Joshua gave it for an inheritance unto Israel according to their divisions by their tribes. And the land rested from war.
 Quoting: joshua


so it looks like the war was between the giants and the hebrews to form the hebrew kingom from the lands the giants lived in
the giants had cities and social structures
it seems

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