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Saptaparna

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Morning everyone!

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Morning assclown.
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cruise

I love this kind of humor, I'm tearing up.

Morning Fuck Face.
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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Aether, why did you ask about my physical contact with Greys? What triggered you to pose that question to me?
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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hey sapt
our moving group dynamics have blossomed so over the coming weeks onwards a lot of information on the topic will be arising
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Looking forward to it.
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sapt am i correct that you have experienced physical contact with what are labeled "greys"
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Yes. I know for a fact because I began being having fully conscious interaction after I 'asked' (that is put very briefly) for conscious remembrance of contact. The first night that happened was on Dec. 21, 2007. Then, two nights later on Dec. 23, 2007. Ongoing from there they visited many times throughout about the next 18 months, but for some reason I did not want to write down the experiences. I have never gone through hypnosis to try and retrieve more memories.

I believe it has been life long, but prior to me asking for conscious remembrance of contact, the memories are more dreamlike, but, I had 'proven' a couple times that it must have been 'real'. Don't forget, I have a twin brother, so some of the older strange ET like experiences (missing time, etc), I was able to verify because my brother would agree that something strange was going on during certain periods in our lives.

I miss the excitement of visitations as all contact had stopped going on about 18 months now. Grey contact stopped about 3 years ago. Literally, the first time Mantis came, Greys never came again.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


thanks

so you know
your greys are correlation with lam. as in: Roddie Minor introduced them to aleister a few times in new york around 1918

this occurred because aliester`s wife, Rose Edith Kelly, introduced him to this in 1904 :

According to Crowley, the story began on 16 March 1904, when he tried to "shew the Sylphs" by use of the Bornless Ritual to his wife, Rose Edith Kelly, while spending the night in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Although she could see nothing, she did seem to enter into a light trance and repeatedly said, "They're waiting for you!" Since Rose had no interest in magic or mysticism, he took little interest. However, on the 18th, after invoking Thoth (the god of knowledge), she mentioned Horus by name as the one waiting for him. Crowley, still skeptical, asked her numerous questions about Horus, which she answered accurately supposedly without having any prior study of the subject:.............
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Aether, why did you ask about my physical contact with Greys? What triggered you to pose that question to me?
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moving group dynamics
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Aether, why did you ask about my physical contact with Greys? What triggered you to pose that question to me?
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moving group dynamics
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Understand. kinda, lol
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Bornless Ritual

The Bornless Ritual, also known as the Preliminary Invocation of the Goetia, or the Invocation of the Heart Girt with a Serpent, is often considered the proper preliminary invocation to the Ars Goetia since it was introduced as such by Aleister Crowley..............
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

strange
that translates to:

electricity (emotion/information) into a natural lover (woman of love) provides what you desire to know

indicating
the women possess the choice to tell
the women possess the way to know

which is true on topics of non material design labeled magic

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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Bornless Ritual

The Bornless Ritual, also known as the Preliminary Invocation of the Goetia, or the Invocation of the Heart Girt with a Serpent, is often considered the proper preliminary invocation to the Ars Goetia since it was introduced as such by Aleister Crowley..............
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

strange
that translates to:

electricity (emotion/information) into a natural lover (woman of love) provides what you desire to know

indicating
the women possess the choice to tell
the women possess the way to know

which is true on topics of non material design labeled magic
 Quoting: aether


i say strange cos aliester was not mr clever with women
in my opinion
but then
what did he know then
not much because it was early days of new discoveries
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Bornless Ritual

The Bornless Ritual, also known as the Preliminary Invocation of the Goetia, or the Invocation of the Heart Girt with a Serpent, is often considered the proper preliminary invocation to the Ars Goetia since it was introduced as such by Aleister Crowley..............
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

strange
that translates to:

electricity (emotion/information) into a natural lover (woman of love) provides what you desire to know

indicating
the women possess the choice to tell
the women possess the way to know

which is true on topics of non material design labeled magic
 Quoting: aether


When I asked for conscious remembrance and for visitations, I did it while it the non-material. Majic...as they appeared 3 weeks later. I've got an interesting story about it all, but I don't want to go into it here.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
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I don't know one damn thing about any of this dreaming shit, Sap.

But perhaps the 'greys' stopped coming because they need to induce fear in the dreamer to make it worthwhile for them to be there?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
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I don't know one damn thing about any of this dreaming shit, Sap.

But perhaps the 'greys' stopped coming because they need to induce fear in the dreamer to make it worthwhile for them to be there?
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That is entirely plausible. I believe it is more complex, in that the interaction is for the development of both the Greys and humans. They know that, we do not.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
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group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
 Quoting: aether


remembering they all still talk to each other naturally , they experienced no break in their communications
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
 Quoting: aether


I am very interested in going through Crowley's stuff now. I have had a shit-ton of 'signs' pointing to researching him in the last month or so.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
 Quoting: aether


remembering they all still talk to each other naturally , they experienced no break in their communications
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I cannot let go of my fascination with this direction of interest.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
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The lam. Conciousness, in this current paradigm, is seen as a reactive survival mechanism rather than the expansive base of creation that it is.

Everything is about profitability and scarcity pushed by an inefficient systemic overview.
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
 Quoting: aether


I am very interested in going through Crowley's stuff now. I have had a shit-ton of 'signs' pointing to researching him in the last month or so.
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Like all political and popular culture figures you will find little but obfuscation and propaganda regarding Crowley.

Likely the truest starting point of most figures is their link to Intelligence services in the propaganda they promote through their being.

fascinations are fickle and throw many off the path.
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Looking forward to it.
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sapt am i correct that you have experienced physical contact with what are labeled "greys"
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Yes. I know for a fact because I began being having fully conscious interaction after I 'asked' (that is put very briefly) for conscious remembrance of contact. The first night that happened was on Dec. 21, 2007. Then, two nights later on Dec. 23, 2007. Ongoing from there they visited many times throughout about the next 18 months, but for some reason I did not want to write down the experiences. I have never gone through hypnosis to try and retrieve more memories.

I believe it has been life long, but prior to me asking for conscious remembrance of contact, the memories are more dreamlike, but, I had 'proven' a couple times that it must have been 'real'. Don't forget, I have a twin brother, so some of the older strange ET like experiences (missing time, etc), I was able to verify because my brother would agree that something strange was going on during certain periods in our lives.

I miss the excitement of visitations as all contact had stopped going on about 18 months now. Grey contact stopped about 3 years ago. Literally, the first time Mantis came, Greys never came again.
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thanks

so you know
your greys are correlation with lam. as in: Roddie Minor introduced them to aleister a few times in new york around 1918

this occurred because aliester`s wife, Rose Edith Kelly, introduced him to this in 1904 :

According to Crowley, the story began on 16 March 1904, when he tried to "shew the Sylphs" by use of the Bornless Ritual to his wife, Rose Edith Kelly, while spending the night in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Although she could see nothing, she did seem to enter into a light trance and repeatedly said, "They're waiting for you!" Since Rose had no interest in magic or mysticism, he took little interest. However, on the 18th, after invoking Thoth (the god of knowledge), she mentioned Horus by name as the one waiting for him. Crowley, still skeptical, asked her numerous questions about Horus, which she answered accurately supposedly without having any prior study of the subject:.............
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


This is a perfect example of being pointed in the direction. I read this EXACT wiki information about 3 days ago. First time I had ever read it.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
 Quoting: aether


remembering they all still talk to each other naturally , they experienced no break in their communications
 Quoting: aether


Ask yourself what changed. Likely the most pragmatic response you will get is: The light.

As Rays unlock potentials in matter through reflectivity and reflexivity (reaction) they alter concious awareness.

My supposition is to look in context and regard to underworld and think of the skein 'over' underworld as an sub aethyr for communication ( concentrate on the permutations of the word medium).
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I cannot let go of my fascination with this direction of interest.
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Sap, I say this as a stalker knowing it applies equally to the world of dreaming:

You MUST let go of it to go further and deeper into it. That is the nature of all things.

It is your clinging to it that holds you back.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I'll research that end of it, aether. I have yet to explore Crowley's information on them. I have very briefly gone over it.

One of my biggest questions was why did they stop visiting and be replaced by mantis. I remember the very last night I was visited by the greys. I was scared shit-less and they were 'pulling' me off my bed. I told them I loved them no matter the fear they induce. And that was it. After that contact I was not visited by them again. Mantis came after that, and she only comes solo. I have never had a visitation by mantis where two or more were with me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
 Quoting: aether


remembering they all still talk to each other naturally , they experienced no break in their communications
 Quoting: aether


The greys as a potential future evolved from a potential past. Dimensional media separate but communicate (plenum) all possibilities.

The mesh point or crux is the immaterial as they are likely suffusing more potential outcomes than not.

They vibrate until they become fixation. Thus we create the future through the outcome our conciousness most reflects.
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I cannot let go of my fascination with this direction of interest.
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Sap, I say this as a stalker knowing it applies equally to the world of dreaming:

You MUST let go of it to go further and deeper into it. That is the nature of all things.

It is your clinging to it that holds you back.
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Yes, And by clinging to a certain perspective (literal physical and mental) you receive diminishing echoes of potential outcome. Closed reality.
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See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
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group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
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remembering they all still talk to each other naturally , they experienced no break in their communications
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Ask yourself what changed. Likely the most pragmatic response you will get is: The light.

As Rays unlock potentials in matter through reflectivity and reflexivity (reaction) they alter concious awareness.

My supposition is to look in context and regard to underworld and think of the skein 'over' underworld as an sub aethyr for communication ( concentrate on the permutations of the word medium).
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our planetary realignments are the change and the consequencial alteration of our personalities in adjusting to our new to us environment

out of our saturn cocoon/plasma sphere into our new star family

morning
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See, the answer is buried in there, but I want to know 'why' and what I did to effect our relationship. There is no background information to go on because of the massive amounts of mis/disinformation out there. So, I have always tried to rely on my own experiences to define them, though that is difficult because I (and my twin brother) have been obsessed with Greys since about the age of 15.
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group dynamics
the differing cultures (off planet) that used to be here often when we were in saturns domain currently visit responsive personalities in sequences fitting their motive to visit the personality
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I am very interested in going through Crowley's stuff now. I have had a shit-ton of 'signs' pointing to researching him in the last month or so.
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Like all political and popular culture figures you will find little but obfuscation and propaganda regarding Crowley.

Likely the truest starting point of most figures is their link to Intelligence services in the propaganda they promote through their being.

fascinations are fickle and throw many off the path.
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That is why I said I cannot shake the fascination of it, though admittedly, I have satiated myself in part by actually having contact.

But, it is very much like a journey I wish to continue. It has always been there, and I will continue it. That is one place where I will go as far as I can, because I am stubborn, and curious.
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sapt am i correct that you have experienced physical contact with what are labeled "greys"
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Yes. I know for a fact because I began being having fully conscious interaction after I 'asked' (that is put very briefly) for conscious remembrance of contact. The first night that happened was on Dec. 21, 2007. Then, two nights later on Dec. 23, 2007. Ongoing from there they visited many times throughout about the next 18 months, but for some reason I did not want to write down the experiences. I have never gone through hypnosis to try and retrieve more memories.

I believe it has been life long, but prior to me asking for conscious remembrance of contact, the memories are more dreamlike, but, I had 'proven' a couple times that it must have been 'real'. Don't forget, I have a twin brother, so some of the older strange ET like experiences (missing time, etc), I was able to verify because my brother would agree that something strange was going on during certain periods in our lives.

I miss the excitement of visitations as all contact had stopped going on about 18 months now. Grey contact stopped about 3 years ago. Literally, the first time Mantis came, Greys never came again.
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thanks

so you know
your greys are correlation with lam. as in: Roddie Minor introduced them to aleister a few times in new york around 1918

this occurred because aliester`s wife, Rose Edith Kelly, introduced him to this in 1904 :

According to Crowley, the story began on 16 March 1904, when he tried to "shew the Sylphs" by use of the Bornless Ritual to his wife, Rose Edith Kelly, while spending the night in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Although she could see nothing, she did seem to enter into a light trance and repeatedly said, "They're waiting for you!" Since Rose had no interest in magic or mysticism, he took little interest. However, on the 18th, after invoking Thoth (the god of knowledge), she mentioned Horus by name as the one waiting for him. Crowley, still skeptical, asked her numerous questions about Horus, which she answered accurately supposedly without having any prior study of the subject:.............
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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This is a perfect example of being pointed in the direction. I read this EXACT wiki information about 3 days ago. First time I had ever read it.
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No It's not, go back to the Nobody thread and read carefully. Funny how lam looks like I am and again think insectoid and Mantis Queen.
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I cannot let go of my fascination with this direction of interest.
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Sap, I say this as a stalker knowing it applies equally to the world of dreaming:

You MUST let go of it to go further and deeper into it. That is the nature of all things.

It is your clinging to it that holds you back.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Yes, And by clinging to a certain perspective (literal physical and mental) you receive diminishing echoes of potential outcome. Closed reality.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Agreed.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Sap, don't bash your head up against the wall.

Find a way around the wall and see the wall for what it really is.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Does anyone notice the knot having cinched tighter and the reflective echoes of specific Ideas increasing in frequency by being defined by a closer or closed space?


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