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stunning photo of the recent solar eclipse ... makes you think

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The premise of instanteous transfer is potentially a spiritual evolution. It does however, have a downside for those individuals that are unable to compartmentalize external stimuli. Authority, in this case modern medicine, appears is too eager to categorize and treat such individuals as unbalanced. Instead of exploring the root cause, modern medicine is often to quick to identify and stigmitize such individuals and pharmaceutically treat sensations as an aberrations from the norm. This leads to a relunctance in most to further explore these aspects of human potentiality.

It is ironic that we trust technology to provide the ability to make us aware and yet we consider what resides in us as an abberation. We have been culturally conditioned to accept what authority wish to impose on us as acceptable norms regarding our individual spiritually. I can understand why the suppression of such potentiality has been discouraged. It has unforeseen ramification, and and unforeseen variances are not something authority is willing to deal with. I must disagree with when you state that such new thinking has been sanctioned. To me, it is more resembles an experiment with human guinea pigs.

Again, social conscious is easily swayed by conditioning, what is acceptable one day is demonized the next. While technological advances (implants) that are touted to improve the human condition are completely sanctioned; the human attempting to delve into the natural aspects of human potentially represents a threat that cannot be controlled. Just my opinion.
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good point
overview by nature functions (affects) above downwards

in hierarchical society that expresses as:
future dictates (structures) present forcing past (memory) into reconfiguration

there are at present no known overview personalities in political, military and belief leadership nor are any anticipated in our near future
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The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
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The premise of instanteous transfer is potentially a spiritual evolution. It does however, have a downside for those individuals that are unable to compartmentalize external stimuli. Authority, in this case modern medicine, appears is too eager to categorize and treat such individuals as unbalanced. Instead of exploring the root cause, modern medicine is often to quick to identify and stigmitize such individuals and pharmaceutically treat sensations as an aberrations from the norm. This leads to a relunctance in most to further explore these aspects of human potentiality.

It is ironic that we trust technology to provide the ability to make us aware and yet we consider what resides in us as an abberation. We have been culturally conditioned to accept what authority wish to impose on us as acceptable norms regarding our individual spiritually. I can understand why the suppression of such potentiality has been discouraged. It has unforeseen ramification, and and unforeseen variances are not something authority is willing to deal with. I must disagree with when you state that such new thinking has been sanctioned. To me, it is more resembles an experiment with human guinea pigs.

Again, social conscious is easily swayed by conditioning, what is acceptable one day is demonized the next. While technological advances (implants) that are touted to improve the human condition are completely sanctioned; the human attempting to delve into the natural aspects of human potentially represents a threat that cannot be controlled. Just my opinion.
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good point
overview by nature functions (affects) above downwards

in hierarchical society that expresses as:
future dictates (structures) present forcing past (memory) into reconfiguration

there are at present no known overview personalities in political, military and belief leadership nor are any anticipated in our near future
 Quoting: aether


The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
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Then again I'm not British so I may misread a cultural bias
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The premise of instanteous transfer is potentially a spiritual evolution. It does however, have a downside for those individuals that are unable to compartmentalize external stimuli. Authority, in this case modern medicine, appears is too eager to categorize and treat such individuals as unbalanced. Instead of exploring the root cause, modern medicine is often to quick to identify and stigmitize such individuals and pharmaceutically treat sensations as an aberrations from the norm. This leads to a relunctance in most to further explore these aspects of human potentiality.

It is ironic that we trust technology to provide the ability to make us aware and yet we consider what resides in us as an abberation. We have been culturally conditioned to accept what authority wish to impose on us as acceptable norms regarding our individual spiritually. I can understand why the suppression of such potentiality has been discouraged. It has unforeseen ramification, and and unforeseen variances are not something authority is willing to deal with. I must disagree with when you state that such new thinking has been sanctioned. To me, it is more resembles an experiment with human guinea pigs.

Again, social conscious is easily swayed by conditioning, what is acceptable one day is demonized the next. While technological advances (implants) that are touted to improve the human condition are completely sanctioned; the human attempting to delve into the natural aspects of human potentially represents a threat that cannot be controlled. Just my opinion.
 Quoting: aka 20093181


good point
overview by nature functions (affects) above downwards

in hierarchical society that expresses as:
future dictates (structures) present forcing past (memory) into reconfiguration

there are at present no known overview personalities in political, military and belief leadership nor are any anticipated in our near future
 Quoting: aether


The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
 Quoting: aka 20093181


So, in other words, we are about to witness a train wreck.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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The premise of instanteous transfer is potentially a spiritual evolution. It does however, have a downside for those individuals that are unable to compartmentalize external stimuli. Authority, in this case modern medicine, appears is too eager to categorize and treat such individuals as unbalanced. Instead of exploring the root cause, modern medicine is often to quick to identify and stigmitize such individuals and pharmaceutically treat sensations as an aberrations from the norm. This leads to a relunctance in most to further explore these aspects of human potentiality.

It is ironic that we trust technology to provide the ability to make us aware and yet we consider what resides in us as an abberation. We have been culturally conditioned to accept what authority wish to impose on us as acceptable norms regarding our individual spiritually. I can understand why the suppression of such potentiality has been discouraged. It has unforeseen ramification, and and unforeseen variances are not something authority is willing to deal with. I must disagree with when you state that such new thinking has been sanctioned. To me, it is more resembles an experiment with human guinea pigs.

Again, social conscious is easily swayed by conditioning, what is acceptable one day is demonized the next. While technological advances (implants) that are touted to improve the human condition are completely sanctioned; the human attempting to delve into the natural aspects of human potentially represents a threat that cannot be controlled. Just my opinion.
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good point
overview by nature functions (affects) above downwards

in hierarchical society that expresses as:
future dictates (structures) present forcing past (memory) into reconfiguration

there are at present no known overview personalities in political, military and belief leadership nor are any anticipated in our near future
 Quoting: aether


The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
 Quoting: aka 20093181


So, in other words, we are about to witness a train wreck.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
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not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
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If you think my response was dishonest and fearful then you need to work on your connection with the 'non local consciousness'.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Is it not possible to learn from disagreement and the appropiate discourrse?
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not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
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If you think my response was dishonest and fearful then you need to work on your connection with the 'non local consciousness'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


If my original post was directed to you, you wpould be right. As it was not, you may be internalizing an external inappropiately
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Is it not possible to learn from disagreement and the appropiate discourrse?
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For people like you and me? yes.

For people like the authority figures running the world? Well...if they did such a thing it would be a travesty for mankind. If they cannot agree, there may be hope for a better future. It just depends on how the disagreement plays out.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Is it not possible to learn from disagreement and the appropiate discourrse?
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For people like you and me? yes.

For people like the authority figures running the world? Well...if they did such a thing it would be a travesty for mankind. If they cannot agree, there may be hope for a better future. It just depends on how the disagreement plays out.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


and for the opposite point of view, agreement on the geopolitical stage is the definition of dishonesty. Make peace and prepare for war comes to mind. I rather disagree honestly, it leaves less hard feelings in the long run.
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not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
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If you think my response was dishonest and fearful then you need to work on your connection with the 'non local consciousness'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


If my original post was directed to you, you wpould be right. As it was not, you may be internalizing an external inappropiately
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Me? You quote my response to your response to a comment I made about a conversation you and Aether were having...

...then retort referencing your 'original' post.

Seems as though you are trying to muddy the waters intentionally.

Then you say that I am internalizing an external inappropriately.

It's ok. It's a good tactic to use. Intentionally complicate things then make a simple statement about your opponent.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
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If you think my response was dishonest and fearful then you need to work on your connection with the 'non local consciousness'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


If my original post was directed to you, you wpould be right. As it was not, you may be internalizing an external inappropiately
 Quoting: aka 20093181


Me? You quote my response to your response to a comment I made about a conversation you and Aether were having...

...then retort referencing your 'original' post.

Seems as though you are trying to muddy the waters intentionally.

Then you say that I am internalizing an external inappropriately.

It's ok. It's a good tactic to use. Intentionally complicate things then make a simple statement about your opponent.
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jonny prior to your response to my comments to Aether I never addressed you. My post to your comments were a continuation of my discourse with Aether not you. It was honest. I only apply tactics to foes.
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If you think my response was dishonest and fearful then you need to work on your connection with the 'non local consciousness'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


If my original post was directed to you, you wpould be right. As it was not, you may be internalizing an external inappropiately
 Quoting: aka 20093181


Me? You quote my response to your response to a comment I made about a conversation you and Aether were having...

...then retort referencing your 'original' post.

Seems as though you are trying to muddy the waters intentionally.

Then you say that I am internalizing an external inappropriately.

It's ok. It's a good tactic to use. Intentionally complicate things then make a simple statement about your opponent.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


jonny prior to your response to my comments to Aether I never addressed you. My post to your comments were a continuation of my discourse with Aether not you. It was honest. I only apply tactics to foes.
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I guess that is a difference between us. I apply my tactics to friends and foes alike.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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What do you guys think of why some people are double jointed?
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good point
overview by nature functions (affects) above downwards

in hierarchical society that expresses as:
future dictates (structures) present forcing past (memory) into reconfiguration

there are at present no known overview personalities in political, military and belief leadership nor are any anticipated in our near future
 Quoting: aether


The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
 Quoting: aka 20093181


So, in other words, we are about to witness a train wreck.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


And how exactly does this response apply to aether?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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If my original post was directed to you, you wpould be right. As it was not, you may be internalizing an external inappropiately
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Me? You quote my response to your response to a comment I made about a conversation you and Aether were having...

...then retort referencing your 'original' post.

Seems as though you are trying to muddy the waters intentionally.

Then you say that I am internalizing an external inappropriately.

It's ok. It's a good tactic to use. Intentionally complicate things then make a simple statement about your opponent.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


jonny prior to your response to my comments to Aether I never addressed you. My post to your comments were a continuation of my discourse with Aether not you. It was honest. I only apply tactics to foes.
 Quoting: aka 20093181


I guess that is a difference between us. I apply my tactics to friends and foes alike.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I have no problem with that. My problems arise when we cannot have a reasonable discourse with each other without being completely honest with each other. Intellectual and emotional components among others are valid. If Aether is upset he should say I'm upset by what you said. If the point is valid I would acknowledge it and respond appropiately.
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Good morning all.

It appears I may have found a time traveler last night.

lol.

Anyone else have thoughts on 'time travel' or the bending of 'time'?

As I am surprised you did not resonate with that post aether.

Consciousness as plasmoid for travel caught my attention concerning the 'crafts' you have been speaking of.

hmm
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Interesting aether.

But how do you reconcile the 'non local consciousness' with the heinous acts of destruction and madness that enveloped the world at that time?

Also, do you see the current situation in a similar light?
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hey jonny
today is a continuation with two important differences

accumulation/cumulative affect of new information reconstructs our knowing forcing our imagination to imagine what has never been imagined by ourselves before

environmental alternation progressively becoming visible indicating it`s invisible ( to eye) affect (emotional) is consequently stronger

put the 2 together today and we possess globally less reliance upon traditional means of expression because we do possess alternatives we know function that we have never possessed before
and
there is ever increasing emotional desire globaly to not express as we traditional do express on some topics

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The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
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So, in other words, we are about to witness a train wreck.
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not at all. It is a honest reflection on my part. What transpires is what is meant to be. No value other then the immediate need to be applied. The responsible response would be to reply honestly without fear.
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And how exactly does this response apply to aether?
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Go back and read my originnal comments to Aether, admittedly they border on provocative, but not dishonest.
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Good morning all.

It appears I may have found a time traveler last night.

lol.

Anyone else have thoughts on 'time travel' or the bending of 'time'?

As I am surprised you did not resonate with that post aether.

Consciousness as plasmoid for travel caught my attention concerning the 'crafts' you have been speaking of.

hmm
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i know what they believe and we can superimpose reality over what is believed to explain their observed and experienced affects ( i read it) tounge
i haven`t because it touches on topics (dead people , all) which i thought fit in a bit further down the road
i say read it
only a couple of technical points, not the thrust of the conversation (motive/story line}

good morning
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I have no problem with that. My problems arise when we cannot have a reasonable discourse with each other without being completely honest with each other. Intellectual and emotional components among others are valid. If Aether is upset he should say I'm upset by what you said. If the point is valid I would acknowledge it and respond appropiately.
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And if aether did say that he was upset...would you then say he was 'internalizing an external inappropriately'?

Do you encourage an emotional response only to declare that when one is received it is a merely a result of some imbalance?

If so, you may be exactly like me if you call aether a friend.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Interesting aether.

But how do you reconcile the 'non local consciousness' with the heinous acts of destruction and madness that enveloped the world at that time?

Also, do you see the current situation in a similar light?
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hey jonny
today is a continuation with two important differences

accumulation/cumulative affect of new information reconstructs our knowing forcing our imagination to imagine what has never been imagined by ourselves before

environmental alternation progressively becoming visible indicating it`s invisible ( to eye) affect (emotional) is consequently stronger

put the 2 together today and we possess globally less reliance upon traditional means of expression because we do possess alternatives we know function that we have never possessed before
and
there is ever increasing emotional desire globaly to not express as we traditional do express on some topics
 Quoting: aether


Hmmm. As usual it will probably take me days to partially comprehend what you just said.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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i know what they believe and we can superimpose reality over what is believed to explain their observed and experienced affects ( i read it) tounge
i haven`t because it touches on topics (dead people , all) which i thought fit in a bit further down the road
i say read it
only a couple of technical points, not the thrust of the conversation (motive/story line}

good morning
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I see.

Well, it rang my bell last night, not sure I really could have taken much more tbh.

After I followed 0's direction, my eyebrows stayed in the raised position for hours.



I have my suspicious about specific unanswered questions I have and things I have directly witnessed. Having the gift of precognition causes one to live with another perception of time I have yet to fully incorporate.

Even if it was role play, I resonated strongly with it.

:)
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i know what they believe and we can superimpose reality over what is believed to explain their observed and experienced affects ( i read it) tounge
i haven`t because it touches on topics (dead people , all) which i thought fit in a bit further down the road
i say read it
only a couple of technical points, not the thrust of the conversation (motive/story line}

good morning
 Quoting: aether


I see.

Well, it rang my bell last night, not sure I really could have taken much more tbh.

After I followed 0's direction, my eyebrows stayed in the raised position for hours.



I have my suspicious about specific unanswered questions I have and things I have directly witnessed. Having the gift of precognition causes one to live with another perception of time I have yet to fully incorporate.

Even if it was role play, I resonated strongly with it.

:)
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that is why i left it
my technical comments are just that, technical as to how and why what is said arose
the information (content) the point (vital) part of it feels valid. as in
important to all of us which is why your eyebrows are right

so i was wanting to wait to see what you tell cos you know i often don`t see what is there to be seen tounge
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good day seer,,

is not all reality a form of roll play?,,

we all have rolls to play afteral,,

your wisdom within precognition is simply the now no longer reconised only from a linear time focused perception,,

this is somthing all can do upon realisation,,

a gradual belief changing process,, based upon understanding the abilities all posess,,

once the seed is sown as a truth within the mind,,

the reality is thus manifested as a true reality,,

the snowballing of this effect amongst all is inevitable as these greator established truths are known as inherent truth,,

we all create this reality,, the more the collective will,, the greator the manifestaion,,

yet of course you already knew this,,


much love,,
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that is why i left it
my technical comments are just that, technical as to how and why what is said arose
the information (content) the point (vital) part of it feels valid. as in
important to all of us which is why your eyebrows are right

so i was wanting to wait to see what you tell cos you know i often don`t see what is there to be seen tounge
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tounge

The thread is over a year old and I have been musing on aspects of time travel for sometime.


I have generally accepted that plane walking is accomplishable. When saying this, I utilize the loosest meaning of the that phrase.

I feel like...things get altered. I have seen it several times, where there just can be no other explanation.

It's like the synch takes an even deeper level, almost like your face is 'being rubbed in it' if you will.

It goes beyond the funny synch, the spooky synch, and down right terrifying synch to a more of...

...oh come on, really? kind of synch. Generally, it has to be outright ignored or perception will bend to much to fast.

Does that make sense?

hmm

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I have no problem with that. My problems arise when we cannot have a reasonable discourse with each other without being completely honest with each other. Intellectual and emotional components among others are valid. If Aether is upset he should say I'm upset by what you said. If the point is valid I would acknowledge it and respond appropiately.
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And if aether did say that he was upset...would you then say he was 'internalizing an external inappropriately'?

Do you encourage an emotional response only to declare that when one is received it is a merely a result of some imbalance?

If so, you may be exactly like me if you call aether a friend.
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If I upset someone, I accept my participation and need for reconciliation. If, someone internalizes something it is only because they are capable of seeing it. It is not my place to tell someone what or how to feel. An emotional response is almost always valid unless it was not directed towards you. If it feels like a kick to the gut, its a kick in the gut.

As for Aether, he chooses his friends, he does however have my respect but not always my complete agreement.
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excuse,, role not roll,,

yet the irony of the mispelling often achieve's a greator focus for scrunity by the reader,,

much love,,
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the technical s come from this:

The Labyrinth Group was a secret subgroup of the ACIO. When Fifteen took over control of the ACIO in 1967, he felt the National Security Agency (NSA) was trivializing the agenda of the ACIO. He wanted to harness the technologies that resulted from the TTP with the Zetas and Corteum and apply them to the development of Blank Slate Technology (BST), an elaborate technology for altering time-based events without detection. Fifteen wanted to develop the ultimate defensive weapon, or Freedom Key as he called it, in the event of a long-prophesied extraterrestrial invasion. He was convinced that the ACIO should focus on this scientific pursuit.
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[link to www.wingmakers.com]

the underlying premises of the wingmaker event is the freedom key :
ability to go back in time to deter hostile motivated alien invasion of earth by directing aliens desire to another target before their motivated desire (discovery) of earth occurs tounge

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I have no problem with that. My problems arise when we cannot have a reasonable discourse with each other without being completely honest with each other. Intellectual and emotional components among others are valid. If Aether is upset he should say I'm upset by what you said. If the point is valid I would acknowledge it and respond appropiately.
 Quoting: aka 20093181


And if aether did say that he was upset...would you then say he was 'internalizing an external inappropriately'?

Do you encourage an emotional response only to declare that when one is received it is a merely a result of some imbalance?

If so, you may be exactly like me if you call aether a friend.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


If I upset someone, I accept my participation and need for reconciliation. If, someone internalizes something it is only because they are capable of seeing it. It is not my place to tell someone what or how to feel. An emotional response is almost always valid unless it was not directed towards you. If it feels like a kick to the gut, its a kick in the gut.

As for Aether, he chooses his friends, he does however have my respect but not always my complete agreement.
 Quoting: aka 20093181


If I upset someone, I accept that they voluntarily chose to be upset with my words or actions. As long as my actions were not physically threatening, I bear no responsibility for them. If their becoming upset leads to physical hostility, then I accept responsibility for whatever harm they could inflict upon me because I allowed myself to become entangled in the dispute in the first place.

It is not possible for me to dictate to someone how to feel, so I never worry about that aspect of it. I can say what I like and feel what I like, just as they can.

An emotional response is always valid. Period. There are no exceptions. Even if it occurs as a result of a misunderstanding, that has no bearing on the validity of it. It is still valid, but for another reason.

For me, I don't worry about friends vs. foes. Categorizing people in this way just leads to feelings of betrayal (in the case of friends) and hostility (in the case of enemies).

When one sees everyone else as an adversary, these categorizations are placed in the proper context, IMO. The only distinction that can be made is if one considers them to be worthy or not. If they are worthy adversaries, it is not a complete waste of time to become entangled in the interaction with them.

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The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.


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