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aether (OP)

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well not really
we exist within fields within boundaries
the information in our local field bounded by our magnetosphere, we discover, does at least two things at once

what it is doing and what it and we are doing

like us, at any moment, it can show any of us a picture of our and it`s future together in real time formed from where we and it are, in real time
 Quoting: aether



hmm


Perhaps...it's purely based on cause and effect. As it would be.

Once the cause is triggered, no matter how far into the future it may be, the effect will resonate regardless.

Therefore the ripple created in the wake of the cause can be 'spotted' ahead of arriving. And due to its nature can be interpreted nearly correctly due the nature of the cause.

blink


Like seeing a storm coming before it arrives. The sky gets dark, the clouds gather...the smell of rain and electricity on the breeze.

The cues are there, it is just up to one to look up, and interpret it correctly.


storm
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like it tounge
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jonny, are you no longer speaking to me?
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Tell that to the old man.
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you can tell him when you see him. I'm not a messenger boy.
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Oh...I won't be seeing him again. He assured me of that at our last encounter.

It was a rhetorical comment. However, you not being a 'messenger boy' was quite obvious to me from the beginning.
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jonny we seem to be getting very close to the honesty i was searching for. What was last encounter with the old man?
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I saw him near the front gate. I was on my way to class, I believe, back in '04. I parked my car and got out and approached him.

I asked him how he was doing. I was very pleased to see him, considering what happened in our last encounter.

He said he was doing ok and that he would be leaving soon. I told him that perhaps I could help him get his things together and help him move them.

He said that would not be necessary. I then said that I hoped we would see each other again. He then cryptically assured me that we wouldn't. He did so with a sly knowing grin on his face.

I then left. Within 24 hours later I was 'involuntarily committed'. Within 4 days later I discovered that my court appointed attorney was a master mason after I asked him about his masonic diamond studded ring.

I let him know what I expected of him. Like a good trained puppy dog he got me out within a day or two with no charges being filed against me and no payment required to him.

Since then, the masons have kept their distance from me. It appears we have come to an understanding of sorts. Look but don't touch.

Of course, this is just my perception of what occurred. The reality of it...who can say for sure?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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you can tell him when you see him. I'm not a messenger boy.
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Oh...I won't be seeing him again. He assured me of that at our last encounter.

It was a rhetorical comment. However, you not being a 'messenger boy' was quite obvious to me from the beginning.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


jonny we seem to be getting very close to the honesty i was searching for. What was last encounter with the old man?
 Quoting: aka 20093181


I saw him near the front gate. I was on my way to class, I believe, back in '04. I parked my car and got out and approached him.

I asked him how he was doing. I was very pleased to see him, considering what happened in our last encounter.

He said he was doing ok and that he would be leaving soon. I told him that perhaps I could help him get his things together and help him move them.

He said that would not be necessary. I then said that I hoped we would see each other again. He then cryptically assured me that we wouldn't. He did so with a sly knowing grin on his face.

I then left. Within 24 hours later I was 'involuntarily committed'. Within 4 days later I discovered that my court appointed attorney was a master mason after I asked him about his masonic diamond studded ring.

I let him know what I expected of him. Like a good trained puppy dog he got me out within a day or two with no charges being filed against me and no payment required to him.

Since then, the masons have kept their distance from me. It appears we have come to an understanding of sorts. Look but don't touch.

Of course, this is just my perception of what occurred. The reality of it...who can say for sure?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


interesting, the way it sounds I have no doubt that its absolutely true. Did you use the "I am but a poor widow son" speel?
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interesting, the way it sounds I have no doubt that its absolutely true. Did you use the "I am but a poor widow son" speel?
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Hahah. No. I am the son of a doctor, a surgeon. My parents, as usual, didn't know what to make of any of it.

My tactic in dealing with my Masonic Attorney was simple and effective. Immediately after he admitted to me that he was a Mason, I focused all my attention on his left eye and showed him my internal reaction to his admission. I said 'You are a Mason?'

He was visibly taken aback my my stare. He said in a very defensive tone '(my name), I am here to help you.'

While unblinking with a constant intensity, I replied 'Then get me out of here.'

However, it is interesting that you say that...about me being a widow's son. My father unexpectedly passed away in December of '09, just a day before Christmas.

My mother is rich in material wealth, but poor in spiritual intent.

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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interesting, the way it sounds I have no doubt that its absolutely true. Did you use the "I am but a poor widow son" speel?
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Hahah. No. I am the son of a doctor, a surgeon. My parents, as usual, didn't know what to make of any of it.

My tactic in dealing with my Masonic Attorney was simple and effective. Immediately after he admitted to me that he was a Mason, I focused all my attention on his left eye and showed him my internal reaction to his admission. I said 'You are a Mason?'

He was visibly taken aback my my stare. He said in a very defensive tone '(my name), I am here to help you.'

While unblinking with a constant intensity, I replied 'Then get me out of here.'

However, it is interesting that you say that...about me being a widow's son. My father unexpectedly passed away in December of '09, just a day before Christmas.

My mother is rich in material wealth, but poor in spiritual intent.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Jonny, I don't have a better story than that, at least one that I can tell. Sorry to hear about your loss. Nothing wrong with being wealthy. As far as spiritual inclinations, its hard to determine with some people. We all make our allowances for life.

I can imagine the stare. You shouldn't be scaring the living daylights out of the unwitting. Well jonny I gotta go, its been a hoot. you take care.
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On the note of precognition.

Think precursors, exclusively chemical precursors. Our feral/instinctive mind is subverbal and sends chemical associations of the scents it has gleaned from the outside world.

sub intellectual recognition.

woof woof
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener




:)


hf
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Jonny, I don't have a better story than that, at least one that I can tell. Sorry to hear about your loss. Nothing wrong with being wealthy. As far as spiritual inclinations, its hard to determine with some people. We all make our allowances for life.

I can imagine the stare. You shouldn't be scaring the living daylights out of the unwitting. Well jonny I gotta go, its been a hoot. you take care.
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You too. And the feeling is mutual. ;)
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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On the note of precognition.

Think precursors, exclusively chemical precursors. Our feral/instinctive mind is subverbal and sends chemical associations of the scents it has gleaned from the outside world.

sub intellectual recognition.

woof woof
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener




:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777



feral/instinctive mind is subverbal
what does dion mean when he says that
it has cropped up before on the topic instinct
instinct is habit formed from repetition
intuition is intelligent inquiry

is that what he means

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On the note of precognition.

Think precursors, exclusively chemical precursors. Our feral/instinctive mind is subverbal and sends chemical associations of the scents it has gleaned from the outside world.

sub intellectual recognition.

woof woof
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


feral/instinctive mind is subverbal
what does dion mean when he says that
it has cropped up before on the topic instinct
instinct is habit formed from repetition
intuition is intelligent inquiry

is that what he means
 Quoting: aether


I think he means...another level to our sense of smell.

Instinct is innate.

Like suckling or the finger grasp.


Sense of smell is innate also as a sense, however one must learn through repetition what the 'scent' entails.

When the 'scent' is invisible if you will, or defies explanation, we find our intuition coming into play so to solve the problem of the what, how, and why.

:)

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exactly
a cat will always roll over and enjoy cat nip because there is no history of cat nip being interesting in cat memory (ancestral) other than it`s affect on a cat and cats are not prompted to think beyond effect because so

how many people do you know whom are not like the cat on topics society labels insrinctive
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good day seer,,

is not all reality a form of roll play?,,

we all have rolls to play afteral,,

your wisdom within precognition is simply the now no longer reconised only from a linear time focused perception,,

this is somthing all can do upon realisation,,

a gradual belief changing process,, based upon understanding the abilities all posess,,

once the seed is sown as a truth within the mind,,

the reality is thus manifested as a true reality,,

the snowballing of this effect amongst all is inevitable as these greator established truths are known as inherent truth,,

we all create this reality,, the more the collective will,, the greator the manifestaion,,

yet of course you already knew this,,


much love,,
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I think the problem for me regarding precognition is how it works.

And what is occurring...

Where is the receiver, receiving the information from?

If the event has yet to occur according to our vantage point.

One must accept that a future beyond ours exists and the receiver is picking up on this.

Now if one accepts that, then one has to accept other timelines.

Understanding that as well, we can project into our own future and infer our own behavior based on circumstances such as these.

For instance, I have wondered if my future Self has ever attempted getting messages to me on this forum, due only to knowing that if something bad were to occur due to decision I have made, I would attempt to rectify the situation by utilizing any means possible.

There are others whom I have suspected are much like the OP of that thread.


To take a line from Dion...

Why the hell not?
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I believe in pro-action behavior. Altering the future is within everyones ability. Most are afraid to screw up. Non action leaves the choices to someone else. That is not to say that I am closed to alternate views. I have been corrected, and rightly so.

Seer are you able to recall the moments of thoughts between waking and sleep. You know the ones that seem to hold imprints of other timelines or life experiences?
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I wonder why you ask.... I have precog but do not remember dreams--- blank!
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Animals Are Moral Creatures, Scientist Argues

"Until recently, scientists would have said your cat was snuggling up to you only as a means to get tasty treats. But many animals have a moral compass, and feel emotions such as love, grief, outrage and empathy, a new book argues."
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Is there really any doubt?


QuackaHoo

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Animals Are Moral Creatures, Scientist Argues

"Until recently, scientists would have said your cat was snuggling up to you only as a means to get tasty treats. But many animals have a moral compass, and feel emotions such as love, grief, outrage and empathy, a new book argues."
[link to news.yahoo.com]




Is there really any doubt?


QuackaHoo

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


there never was, on earth we used to talk with animals as in:
recognized they are self aware
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there never was, on earth we used to talk with animals as in:
recognized they are self aware
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but when we altered they altered also
now we both do the best we can

is the sensation
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there never was, on earth we used to talk with animals as in:
recognized they are self aware
 Quoting: aether


but when we altered they altered also
now we both do the best we can

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


Did you watch the gorilla video?

Powerful it is.


I remember when I saw it for the first time as a youth.

It resonated strongly.



:) *sniff*
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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there never was, on earth we used to talk with animals as in:
recognized they are self aware
 Quoting: aether


but when we altered they altered also
now we both do the best we can

is the sensation
 Quoting: aether


Did you watch the gorilla video?

Powerful it is.


I remember when I saw it for the first time as a youth.

It resonated strongly.



:) *sniff*
 Quoting: Seer777


i was just going to mention for the past hour or so building to just 5 mins ago i experienced sadness (not mine) the most i have ever experienced it
it was general not focused on any one thing
underlying now arisen to visible sign
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:) *sniff*
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i was just going to mention for the past hour or so building to just 5 mins ago i experienced sadness (not mine) the most i have ever experienced it
it was general not focused on any one thing
underlying now arisen to visible sign
 Quoting: aether


It was more, marveling at the Beauty of it all.

The tears are ones of gratitude for such.

Spot on.


hugs
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we should never under-estimate the power of love,,

much love,,
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:) *sniff*
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i was just going to mention for the past hour or so building to just 5 mins ago i experienced sadness (not mine) the most i have ever experienced it
it was general not focused on any one thing
underlying now arisen to visible sign
 Quoting: aether


It was more, marveling at the Beauty of it all.

The tears are ones of gratitude for such.

Spot on.


hugs
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think i need some music tounge
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please embed the man who sold the world,,

nivara live unplugged

(though the david bowie original is also entertaining)

much love,,
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thankyou aether,, your too kind,,

the words are relevant in an incandecent way,,

much love,,
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thankyou aether,, your too kind,,

the words are relevant in an incandecent way,,

much love,,
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listening like i never listened before
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or of course there is,,

little boxes,, by walk off the earth,,

much love,,
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you sir are a gentleman aether ,,

thankyou for the indulgence,,

music is a wonderful vice indeed,,

this one wonders as to your choice of the moment?,,

if you'd be so kind to share,,

much love,,
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Serious question. If space is -458 deg F, and this star/large planet is as far away as thought, how if the thermodynamics of heat is correct, do we measure a heat of 800 deg F at the distance claimed? I say you put a 800 degree body of any size at that distance and you wouldn't detect anything.

So if light, and this includes infra to ultra and visible in between, is absorbed and re-emitted, thereby said law dispersing some heat (no claims of virtual particles here please), as light sure warms everything it touches, but never gets cooler along the way? Heat only works on total absorption? Or only electrons composing atoms are affected by light?

I am just curious as to how a million + deg ball of plasma 1AU away isn't frying us when we measure 800 deg from something at that distance? Really?
 Quoting: observation


these updates are live and on topics which ARE on the table tounge
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There are at least two "kinds" or "types" of heat. One "type" is Brownian motion, the other is "EMR" radiation, of which infrared frequencies compose a part of said spectrum. Brownian motion of molecules at the distant object are not what the telescope detects. Infrared radiation does cause an increase in Brownian motion of molecules when it is absorbed. Sort of like remote control heat transport.

The "million degree" temperature measured above the surface of the Sun is not Brownian motion either, it is the EMR emitted by plasma. The matter striking the Earth's atmosphere (electrons and protons) can be considered to be causing an increase in Brownian motion of the atmosphere by collisions with the matter in the atmosphere (matter on matter.) On the other hand, infrared radiation from the Sun increases the heat content of the atmosphere, (also increasing the Brownian motion of molecules, as it is absorbed) and heats your body too. A cold wind (reduced Brownian motion) will freeze you, but being in the radiation of the Sun without the wind will heat the surfaces of your body exposed to the radiation, in spite of the reduced Brownian motion of molecules around you.

Radiation expands in an ever increasing radius sphere as it leaves the source. The decreasing curvature of said expanding sphere is the reason for both the inverse square "law" of luminosity, and the reason objects viewed from increasing distance seemingly shrink in size. Telescopes, and for that matter, microscopes, effectively increase the curvature of the incoming "surface" of the sphere (and effectively "moving" the viewer closer to the object), thereby magnifying the objects being photographed or viewed. Time exposures increase the amount of radiation collected, but cannot move in relation to the source during exposure, or the image will become blurred. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


How do we decide the infrared temperature from that distance remains 800 deg, but the million + deg infrared temperature from the sun one AU away certainly is not that temperature when it gets to earth? Why does the Suns infrared temperature so drastically reduce with distance according to the inverse square law, but this object still registers at 800 deg at what, 100 light-years or so? If you put the sun at the same distance and measured its heat or light according to the inverse square law we use to calculate its heat or light on earth, the value would be basically nill. At 100 light-years the volume of light spreading out in a sphere would be so small when it reached earth as to be virtually undetectable. Yet I am to believe we can view any object at that distance without it increasing in size [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


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nobody what is the meaning of alchemical wedding
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Whoa aether look what I found...

[link to en.wikipedia.org] <----


Metaphorical representation of the Five Worlds with the 10 Sephirot in each, as successively smaller concentric circles, derived from the light of the Kav after the Tzimtzum
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


It looks just like the polar clock you noticed the other day.

Also, it reminds of the rings in that cave.

Interesting.


hmm
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