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The Holiday Market has Internet this year...

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The Holiday Market has Internet this year...

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orientating ourselves within our moving group

What is the question? The question is "If the sun is spiraling around in some Birkeland current filament (the local interstellar cloud), where is the other filament? You can't just have one filament!"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

So Proxima Centauri, the closest star to the sun, is not in the Local Interstellar Cloud? It's in a cloud right next to ours, and it's cloud is "interacting" with our cloud.
Since sometimes it's easier to step back and look at the bigger picture:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Now superimpose the picture from the first link.
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 Quoting: aether


Would you consider that the “filament”, perhaps the primary one, for our Sun exist at the ‘interface’ between these “clouds” and thus the reason for the way the Sun is depicted as being offset from center in comparison to the two? All of the references previewed thus far suggest that we are simply moving through them, or that they are simply moving past us. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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The premise of instanteous transfer is potentially a spiritual evolution. It does however, have a downside for those individuals that are unable to compartmentalize external stimuli. Authority, in this case modern medicine, appears is too eager to categorize and treat such individuals as unbalanced. Instead of exploring the root cause, modern medicine is often to quick to identify and stigmitize such individuals and pharmaceutically treat sensations as an aberrations from the norm. This leads to a relunctance in most to further explore these aspects of human potentiality.

It is ironic that we trust technology to provide the ability to make us aware and yet we consider what resides in us as an abberation. We have been culturally conditioned to accept what authority wish to impose on us as acceptable norms regarding our individual spiritually. I can understand why the suppression of such potentiality has been discouraged. It has unforeseen ramification, and and unforeseen variances are not something authority is willing to deal with. I must disagree with when you state that such new thinking has been sanctioned. To me, it is more resembles an experiment with human guinea pigs.

Again, social conscious is easily swayed by conditioning, what is acceptable one day is demonized the next. While technological advances (implants) that are touted to improve the human condition are completely sanctioned; the human attempting to delve into the natural aspects of human potentially represents a threat that cannot be controlled. Just my opinion.
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good point
overview by nature functions (affects) above downwards

in hierarchical society that expresses as:
future dictates (structures) present forcing past (memory) into reconfiguration

there are at present no known overview personalities in political, military and belief leadership nor are any anticipated in our near future
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The sensation is condescension, produced by an inadequacy for proper summarization.tounge
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oh

i missed that

i understand condescension
can you rephrase what you say causes it
i don`t see what your sequence means/says
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The cause is based in a feeling re-enforced by experiences that the Brits are an ethocentric people, even more so than Americans. Being such, an unrecognized aire of superioty arises from their consciousness that they are unaware of. It translates into a inability to relate to some on a
basic human level. It is this self imposed separation of interaction on a variety of fundamental human conditions that restrict their understanding of those that are deemed culturally/socially/intellectually deficient. I attribute this in part to the aloof attitudes of the Brits royal hierarchy.. It is not that Brits donot engage, it is that there is a aire in whom they are willing to engage with and on what subject based on a predetermined evalutions. It is
my feeling that some are looked upon as merely intellegent savages. hehe. I read your comments through yesterday and I find your willingness to ask questions and be open to input a bit of an improvement. In my opinion it is preferable to engage rather then dispense information, I feel that sharing bring about quicker and more dynamic results.
I understand the impetus behind such motives are well intentioned, I also respect your ability to step out of the way to allow discourse to continue along avenues that you yourself may not share an interest in. As I said, you have my respect. When I posted my comments yesterday, they were from feeling w/o thought, and as such were raw. I shared them with you as an open criticism. If I was wrong in my feeling, then I was wrong. Thank you for your inquiry as
to my purpose in disclosing the reasons for my postings from yesterday.

The main reason however for the postings yesterday was beyond an expression of my feelings. It has to do with the perceptions of those inside and outside the moving group. As eye become more directed towards this thread, it is
important that it be viewed as being as transparent as possible. The biggest criticisms directed towards the moving group is that it is cryptic/secretive and that those within the group are operating in an exclusive manner so as to place themselves others. The feeling is that an
ethocentric inclusivity/exclusivity is at play. Being that this is an incorrect perception, I rightly or wrongly took it upon myself to prove this otherwise. Your requesting an explanation for my rather brusque comments to you goes a long way in demonstrating that these misperception of this moving group are not as well founded as portrayed.

Many within the moving group operate inside and outside the sphere of influence of this thread. I believe that this goes a long way to dispel any notions of what I described above. It however does not silence the critics. In an attempt to silence the critics as to what they claim are nefarious intentions, I acting within the precepts of my nature was openly critical of you. It was done not to inflict consternation but to allow an honest point to be demonstrated. The point being an openess and honesty for disagreemnet in discourse. I may have used you as punching bag in doing so but it was my feeling that this was the
most direct approach to demonstrating the fairly free nature of the discourse that is practiced here.

Oh by the way, the nobody, yesterday your comments to Aether displayed an unappealing display of sucking up,, much love.
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Bioluminescent
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I like that. It reminds me of Tah-eh-Atz.

How can you have been here as long as you have been and not gone mad?

I'm on the brink personally lol. It's people like you, aether, sap, akashic, etc. that keep me here.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Hey Cheshire. I've been here for a while and it takes some sifting, lol.

You are in good company, and it is not an accident as you see things very easily.

There is much, much skewing that goes on here, which has made me rely on myself more. It's a good thing if you can 'see' the machinations in the many of the posters here. It's a mind fuck to many people not even knowing they are getting mind fucked.

Now you know why we have this little group. We can go to others of our group and ask them about everything (other threads and a massive variety of information), knowing we are getting responsible answers and creating a distillation of the information. Aether's threads do this. We create dialogue to figure out our questions. Now that I think of it, I don't think any of us here in our little 'clique' have really ever said another one of us is just plain wrong. It is talked about in a positive manner and helps manifest the idea of open mindedness through intelligent dialogue and related, cross pollinated topics.

pewpew
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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 Quoting: Seer777


I like that. It reminds me of Tah-eh-Atz.

How can you have been here as long as you have been and not gone mad?

I'm on the brink personally lol. It's people like you, aether, sap, akashic, etc. that keep me here.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Hey Cheshire. I've been here for a while and it takes some sifting, lol.

You are in good company, and it is not an accident as you see things very easily.

There is much, much skewing that goes on here, which has made me rely on myself more. It's a good thing if you can 'see' the machinations in the many of the posters here. It's a mind fuck to many people not even knowing they are getting mind fucked.

Now you know why we have this little group. We can go to others of our group and ask them about everything (other threads and a massive variety of information), knowing we are getting responsible answers and creating a distillation of the information. Aether's threads do this. We create dialogue to figure out our questions. Now that I think of it, I don't think any of us here in our little 'clique' have really ever said another one of us is just plain wrong. It is talked about in a positive manner and helps manifest the idea of open mindedness through intelligent dialogue and related, cross pollinated topics.

:pewpew:
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SOS, I never have to much to say. But something has changed, i feel it.
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I like that. It reminds me of Tah-eh-Atz.

How can you have been here as long as you have been and not gone mad?

I'm on the brink personally lol. It's people like you, aether, sap, akashic, etc. that keep me here.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Hey Cheshire. I've been here for a while and it takes some sifting, lol.

You are in good company, and it is not an accident as you see things very easily.

There is much, much skewing that goes on here, which has made me rely on myself more. It's a good thing if you can 'see' the machinations in the many of the posters here. It's a mind fuck to many people not even knowing they are getting mind fucked.

Now you know why we have this little group. We can go to others of our group and ask them about everything (other threads and a massive variety of information), knowing we are getting responsible answers and creating a distillation of the information. Aether's threads do this. We create dialogue to figure out our questions. Now that I think of it, I don't think any of us here in our little 'clique' have really ever said another one of us is just plain wrong. It is talked about in a positive manner and helps manifest the idea of open mindedness through intelligent dialogue and related, cross pollinated topics.

pewpew
 Quoting: Saptaparna


SOS, I never have to much to say. But something has changed, i feel it.
 Quoting: Nice Bootes Billy


Billy, I agree with you. If anything, I , at least, cans say that I have changed again. And, it feels as if there has been a change, but the manifestation of it has yet to be seen...if that makes sense.

I don't know why I want to write this in this post, but I have been reading on Buddha the last couple days. The world is at a place in time that is reminiscent of the era in which Gotama found himself.

On the cusp of a spiritual revolution. We are at The Second Axial, or pivotal point in spiritual enlightenment. It is right there, bubbling underneath everything; the suffering, the pain, the non-understanding of why humans behave the way we do, the questioning of organized religion, the awakening of the individual spiritual self, and the quest and seeking of how to spiritually better our lives by looking to the inside of us, instead of looking to the outside.

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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I like that. It reminds me of Tah-eh-Atz.

How can you have been here as long as you have been and not gone mad?

I'm on the brink personally lol. It's people like you, aether, sap, akashic, etc. that keep me here.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Hey Cheshire. I've been here for a while and it takes some sifting, lol.

You are in good company, and it is not an accident as you see things very easily.

There is much, much skewing that goes on here, which has made me rely on myself more. It's a good thing if you can 'see' the machinations in the many of the posters here. It's a mind fuck to many people not even knowing they are getting mind fucked.

Now you know why we have this little group. We can go to others of our group and ask them about everything (other threads and a massive variety of information), knowing we are getting responsible answers and creating a distillation of the information. Aether's threads do this. We create dialogue to figure out our questions. Now that I think of it, I don't think any of us here in our little 'clique' have really ever said another one of us is just plain wrong. It is talked about in a positive manner and helps manifest the idea of open mindedness through intelligent dialogue and related, cross pollinated topics.

:pewpew:
 Quoting: Saptaparna


SOS, I never have to much to say. But something has changed, i feel it.
 Quoting: Nice Bootes Billy


Billy, I agree with you. If anything, I , at least, cans say that I have changed again. And, it feels as if there has been a change, but the manifestation of it has yet to be seen...if that makes sense.

I don't know why I want to write this in this post, but I have been reading on Buddha the last couple days. The world is at a place in time that is reminiscent of the era in which Gotama found himself.

On the cusp of a spiritual revolution. We are at The Second Axial, or pivotal point in spiritual enlightenment. It is right there, bubbling underneath everything; the suffering, the pain, the non-understanding of why humans behave the way we do, the questioning of organized religion, the awakening of the individual spiritual self, and the quest and seeking of how to spiritually better our lives by looking to the inside of us, instead of looking to the outside.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


I think Kali had the boots on last night. I swear, I had more arms than usual.
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HAHAHA! Awesome! I just googled Axial Age. Here is a link of another who has witnessed the same as myself in the last two days.

The Second Axial Age.
[link to spiritualnotreligious.blogspot.com]

Are we entering a second "axial age" similar in breadth, yet different in content than the first "axial age" (a term coined by German philosopher, Karl Jaspers, to depict the fruition of Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, Confucian, Zoroastrian, Judean and Greek religious and wisdom traditions between approximately 900 BCE and 200 B.C.E.)?

Certainly, with the existential problems we collectively face, and our technologically advanced potential for communicating ideas in a truly global culture, the ground is ripe for an emerging consensus of spiritual insight based upon the latent similarities in all the world's great wisdom traditions. And, perhaps, what we are seeing in the radicalization of fundamentalists across existing religious traditions is indicative of a reaction against a newly emerging "axial age" that embraces the core non-dual teachings of all the world's great wisdom traditions and the emerging consensus about global bio-genesis, global interdependency, and the key role that consciousness plays in shaping our world.
 Quoting: Second Axial Age


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~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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The Second Axial Age.
[link to spiritualnotreligious.blogspot.com]

"The universe is a communion and a community," says Elgin, quoting theologian Thomas Berry, and, "(w)e ourselves are that communion become conscious of itself."

"Compassion remains a vital element of spirituality," Elgin notes, "but it is now being held increasingly within a context of communion rather than separation."

"As people around the world move into spiritual communion and empathic connection with the living universe," Elgin suggests, "we see the role of religion differently: Less often do people look for a bridge to the divine. Increasingly, people seek guidance and community in the journey of awakening within the living universe. People want to know there are others on the journey of soul-making and seek guideposts along the way to support the awakening of their experience of unity and intimacy within the universe. Less and less are people seeking only religions of belief. Carried along in this great cultural project of awakening, we are increasingly seeking religions of direct experience -- religions of communion with a living universe."
 Quoting: Second Axial Age

Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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The Holiday Market has Internet this year...

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banana
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wave
 Quoting: aether


xmas

tounge
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:)

And so it begins...as we close out the year.

Longest, strangest, and most amazing year ever.


What a ride...

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The Holiday Market has Internet this year...

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banana
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wave
 Quoting: aether


xmas

tounge
 Quoting: Nice Bootes Billy


:)

And so it begins...as we close out the year.

Longest, strangest, and most amazing year ever.


What a ride...

wink
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Keep your Ison the skys, it's gonna be amazing if it happens :)

And now talk of the supernova. Awesome stuff.
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The cause is based in a feeling re-enforced by experiences that the Brits are an ethocentric people, even more so than Americans. Being such, an unrecognized aire of superioty arises from their consciousness that they are unaware of. It translates into a inability to relate to some on a
basic human level. It is this self imposed separation of interaction on a variety of fundamental human conditions that restrict their understanding of those that are deemed culturally/socially/intellectually deficient. I attribute this in part to the aloof attitudes of the Brits royal hierarchy.. It is not that Brits donot engage, it is that there is a aire in whom they are willing to engage with and on what subject based on a predetermined evalutions. It is
my feeling that some are looked upon as merely intellegent savages. hehe. I read your comments through yesterday and I find your willingness to ask questions and be open to input a bit of an improvement. In my opinion it is preferable to engage rather then dispense information, I feel that sharing bring about quicker and more dynamic results.
I understand the impetus behind such motives are well intentioned, I also respect your ability to step out of the way to allow discourse to continue along avenues that you yourself may not share an interest in. As I said, you have my respect. When I posted my comments yesterday, they were from feeling w/o thought, and as such were raw. I shared them with you as an open criticism. If I was wrong in my feeling, then I was wrong. Thank you for your inquiry as
to my purpose in disclosing the reasons for my postings from yesterday.

The main reason however for the postings yesterday was beyond an expression of my feelings. It has to do with the perceptions of those inside and outside the moving group. As eye become more directed towards this thread, it is
important that it be viewed as being as transparent as possible. The biggest criticisms directed towards the moving group is that it is cryptic/secretive and that those within the group are operating in an exclusive manner so as to place themselves others. The feeling is that an
ethocentric inclusivity/exclusivity is at play. Being that this is an incorrect perception, I rightly or wrongly took it upon myself to prove this otherwise. Your requesting an explanation for my rather brusque comments to you goes a long way in demonstrating that these misperception of this moving group are not as well founded as portrayed.

Many within the moving group operate inside and outside the sphere of influence of this thread. I believe that this goes a long way to dispel any notions of what I described above. It however does not silence the critics. In an attempt to silence the critics as to what they claim are nefarious intentions, I acting within the precepts of my nature was openly critical of you. It was done not to inflict consternation but to allow an honest point to be demonstrated. The point being an openess and honesty for disagreemnet in discourse. I may have used you as punching bag in doing so but it was my feeling that this was the
most direct approach to demonstrating the fairly free nature of the discourse that is practiced here.

Oh by the way, the nobody, yesterday your comments to Aether displayed an unappealing display of sucking up,, much love.
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great points
great summation

the post that prompted you was written in may 2011

the politics generally have improved a little since then and the dynamics of our societies global political structure have altered quite considerable. all into favor of the topics we discuss
thus i expect yourself and others, whom i am sure share your sentiments, to become noticeable more content with what you may read and likewise with answers you are offered in respect of any question asked in our future

thank you

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Keep your Ison the skys, it's gonna be amazing if it happens :)

And now talk of the supernova. Awesome stuff.
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O.o


Did Betelgeuse finally pop?

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- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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I got no idea why I posted the video above tounge


Betelgeuse.. recurrent topic!

Good afternoon everyone (:
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

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_Alive, therefore life itself.
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I got no idea why I posted the video above tounge


Betelgeuse.. recurrent topic!

Good afternoon everyone (:
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:)

I am a bit obsessed with the constellation of Orion and have been since the 4th grade.

By utilizing Orion's belt as a marker, it becomes much easier to identify other constellations/stars in the night sky.


Here is a pic I took of Betelgeuse 13 months ago, today.

BetelgeuseOct17

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I got no idea why I posted the video above tounge


Betelgeuse.. recurrent topic!

Good afternoon everyone (:
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:)

I am a bit obsessed with the constellation of Orion and have been since the 4th grade.

By utilizing Orion's belt as a marker, it becomes much easier to identify other constellations/stars in the night sky.


Here is a pic I took of Betelgeuse 13 months ago, today.

BetelgeuseOct17

:)
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Funny how: the more things change. the more they........ I believe that was one of the first things I saw you post last year.

Shortly thereafter I told SOS to watch the echoes.
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[link to www.news.com.au]

A weather alert was posted by the Bureau of Meteorology just minutes before rain smacked the east coast, leaving thousands of people without power.

Weatherzone reported more than 4000 lightning strikes within 80km of Brisbane in the space of one hour.

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Thread: Superstorm hits Australia's East Coast with 4000 lightning strikes in one hour in Brisbane

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Funny how: the more things change. the more they........ I believe that was one of the first things I saw you post last year.

Shortly thereafter I told SOS to watch the echoes.
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:)

Welcome back.

How was your travels?


I will be in and out as customers come to call.

hf
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hey aka,,

a wonderful post indeed,,

the points raised and the motive contained therein are interesting and a pleasure to ingress,,

you are of course correct within such assumptions,, as it may well appear that this thread shares the undertones of a seprative boys club due to the inner shared narrative many here may appear to verbally thusly cullude with,,

it is understood fully how somewhat daunting towards others wishing to engage within this thread that may seem,,

however,, this is simply not the case,,

apperences are often deceptive,,

a kinship is felt towards others here for there sharing of wisdom and this is enjoyed,,

this one apologise's to your good self if you were ever offended by the kindness shown to wards others,,

please accept this one love and "sucking up" to too you as well,,

as this one has love for all,, especially you,, as your verbal conveyencing skills are wonderful and you raised many a good point indeed,,

much love,,
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Funny how: the more things change. the more they........ I believe that was one of the first things I saw you post last year.

Shortly thereafter I told SOS to watch the echoes.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


:)

Welcome back.

How was your travels?


I will be in and out as customers come to call.

hf
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You ever have that crazy feeling when 20 years come to fruition in an instant and you plunge into yourself at such immense speed that in feels like the fabric of what you know has become distended?

It makes me take pause, for once, without the words.

I'll describe it later and hope I can flesh it out to become mundane.
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You ever have that crazy feeling when 20 years come to fruition in an instant and you plunge into yourself at such immense speed that in feels like the fabric of what you know has become distended?

It makes me take pause, for once, without the words.

I'll describe it later and hope I can flesh it out to become mundane.
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Perhaps something similar...

Rather recently.

It was a bit like the life review I have mentioned in the past.

I was shown how my Nature in all its forms from childhood until present has created my reality.

Also, all the little things I never understood about myself, which made me different than my peers, came into sharper focus when placed against the back drop of the Now.

:)

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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Aether, have they Truly accepted that the Higg's Field as being the aether? Or is it something that is just being bantered around like a part of their fantasies?
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it`s negotiations now sapt and the dept that did have the final say . cern, was allowed to go all the way into the box it arrived in thus, by it`s own expression, lost authority with it`s peers. still possess major clout but nothing like it did prior to late 2011
as you see from the thread the laser/light departments have already taken over in the usa and are authorized to do so in the europe.
different awareness driving the the "ship" now


i notice that the national ignition facility link is the only government link i use that will not link directly to glp tounge

try wiki

National Ignition Facility

The National Ignition Facility, or NIF, is a large, laser-based inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research device located at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, California, USA. NIF uses powerful lasers to heat and compress a small amount of hydrogen fuel to the point where nuclear fusion reactions take place. NIF is the largest and most energetic ICF device built to date, and the first that is expected to reach the long-sought goal of "ignition," producing more energy than was put in to start the reaction.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

europe is going to construct one as the usefulness of cern is finished within awareness of our ptb.

ELI - THE EXTREME LIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE

A European facility opening new avenues to reveal the secrets of matter on ultra-short timescales.
ELI is a European Project, involving nearly 40 research and academic institutions from 13 EU Members Countries, forming a pan-European Laser facility, that aims to host the most intense lasers world-wide.
The facility, based on four sites, will be the first large scale infrastructure based on the Eastern part of the European Community and has obtained a financial committment exceeding 700 M€. The European Commission has recently signed the approval for funding the first ELI-pillar, located in the Czech Republic, with a budget of nearly 290 M€.
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[link to www.extreme-light-infrastructure.eu]
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The Paradigm Shift occurred.
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It turns out the Higgs doesn’t have any hidden depths. There are no tantalising secrets to tease out. The boson has nothing to say about the universe that physics didn’t already know. Spending time together is turning out to be a chore for physics.
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What if it's like the ground hog day movie but the wheel is much bigger, like eons, one age after another around and around? 1dunno1
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this was in the cern debate last year

the debate within our religious authorities of all denominations is how to translate 21st century discovery into traditional religious application
and this is what they have to work with:

the causes of singular effect now known to be true when applied to a structure we know well, ourselves, constitute the baseline ingredients within ourselves we label conscious process (self aware). as in:
those ingredients present within ourselves are the reason we are ourselves as we know ourselves to be

those same ingredients exist within everything material that exists within our observable universe

and

those same ingredients exists within all the space that exists between all material that exists within our observable universe from micro to macro

the difference between structures of simple complexity upwards into the various complex structures is the visible difference the same baseline ingredients express. as in:
the same ingredients express differently dependent upon the structures complexity of construction they are expressing within

in our material dimension that manifests into the same baseline ingredients are all you are left with when you reach, as you do, the limit of simplicity that exists in the micro

you then discover that those same baseline ingredients form the non material baseline for all non material dimensions that exist and similarly structure outwards within our material dimension, unseen but experience because they influence (cern)

this forms the outline of god our 21st century is requiring our religions to fit into
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