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aether I'm not usually too interested in the mechanics of this realm, but I was curious: how interested are you in timelines? It ties in with reincarnation and Karma.

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Ok I'll just go into the basics. Take it or leave it :)

The physical and non physical realms, lets call them 3d and 4d, differ in a way most people aren't aware.

In 3d, time is linear. In 4d, time is simultaneous.

Same with reincarnation. In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously.

Karma works the same way. If you have a basic concept of karma as most people do, that will suffice. You are spiritually linked with your former selves and at this moment: You, your former self, and your infinite probable future selves are interacting simultaneously. If you mess up in another timeline, it can be felt in this one.

It goes even further. With the infinite future timeline probabilities, you might be experiencing the good or bad karma effects from another past or future self in a completely different timeline. Mostly you won't notice the good effects but mostly notice the bad effects, but I digress.

Lets say that one of your selves is under stress. That stress reverberates throughout all of your selves.

There are infinite universes, infinite probabilities and infinite timelines.

Cloud connected.
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Ok I'll just go into the basics. Take it or leave it :)

The physical and non physical realms, lets call them 3d and 4d, differ in a way most people aren't aware.

In 3d, time is linear. In 4d, time is simultaneous.

Same with reincarnation. In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously.

Karma works the same way. If you have a basic concept of karma as most people do, that will suffice. You are spiritually linked with your former selves and at this moment: You, your former self, and your infinite probable future selves are interacting simultaneously. If you mess up in another timeline, it can be felt in this one.

It goes even further. With the infinite future timeline probabilities, you might be experiencing the good or bad karma effects from another past or future self in a completely different timeline. Mostly you won't notice the good effects but mostly notice the bad effects, but I digress.

Lets say that one of your selves is under stress. That stress reverberates throughout all of your selves.

There are infinite universes, infinite probabilities and infinite timelines.

Cloud connected.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


How's this for good measure:

The Circle of Life can be viewed as a wheel with 8 circumferential circles distributed evenly around the rim. In addition there is a wheel (hub) at the center, for a total of 10 circles (wheel circle plus hub circle plus 8 circles spinning around the rim.

It’s like a train on a circular track, where each circumferential circle is a separate train compartment. Within each compartment is a Timeline that a group of humans experience. Just like a train, the people in the compartment ahead of you are in your future. Those in the compartments behind you are in your past. All together on the rim are in the Timeline of the Solar System. The hub represents a connection to a shared and common past.

Each train compartment has an intercom system and the center of each compartment is offset from the next compartment by a period of 6 months. So we can exchange information with every compartment.

Those people from your Timeline who have passed the threshold of “death” (but remain in causality; i.e., have not ascended) are in a compartment ahead of you while those who have lived in past causal life cycles are in the compartments behind you. So you “died” in the compartment behind you and returned to the current Lifecycle. But you are communicating with all 10 Lifecycles via quantum entanglement. Some of these cycles you may have “died” in.

At any one period of time, you are coexisting in as many as 8 Lifecycles, while always having the potential to communicate (or Ascend) to the Greater Cycle (rim), while also retaining communications with the Lesser Cycle (hub). Once ascended, you have “full” communication with all 10 Lifecycles.

We coexist in the Greater Cycle while sharing the Earth in different Timelines that are shifted in Time. Some Lifecycles are in our future and some in our past.

Once ascended, a human can “warp” into another Timeline. Since all Timelines are present on Earth at the same time. The considering that we “warp” in space when we move, we “warp” in time when we move. When you walk down the street you see your future ahead of you and your past behind you. Many just don’t have the ability to see into the future at least 6 months ahead. All the while we can see into our pasts via the interconnect of the central hub.

The 8 cycles have a 6-month offset for a total of 48 months in the Greater Cycle, 4 years. The train is four years long and the last compartment is exiting the Greater Cycle in late 2012.

To ascend is to be in Harmony with the Universe. We all are here to learn to “dance”, with the 4 elements of nature (Air-Water-Fire-Earth) and the three Fates. Seven dance partners who teach you their moves. When you start learning to dance with them, your Ascension has begun.

Have you ever danced in “hell” with the three Fates?
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good morning cheshire , j.a.d
it happened again, glp awoke me at 08.10 and there was your post(s) tounge
this time i was energetically prompted to dress and walk,
weather glories , sky nov blue, sun warm and inviting , our environment doing what it normally does , providing complementary dimension in which we emotionally experience (live)
at what i now know to be approx 10.55 i noticed i was back to seeing the familiarity of my house in eye sight and knowing my metropolis i knew i had walked 10 miles or so

where had i been in linear time an observer would utilize to record the distance i traveled (all measurement of distance fixed by our arbitrary fixing of light speed)
the observer would know exactly where i was that whole time

i would agree with the observer that i was here but i would be forced to tell the observer that although i was always aware i was here, my conscious 5% (self) of my conscious process mostly experienced not being here at all

consequently my memory possess/retains the background orientation/comfortable sensation of this material dimension (location) only, that which the observer observed and could measure

my memory of actually where i was and what i was doing i can explain to the observer but there is only two ways the observer will know what i am talking about

i took them with me
or
observer and i possess common agreement how and why my conscious 5% self was not in this dimension while my physical presence within this dimension was observed

this and related topics are the essence of our current 21st century debate within military and religious circles

lovely posts

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for some years in the uk our authorities have been running the following.
3 hospitals that possess isolated from all others operating theaters
these theaters are regularly and randomly without staff prior knowledge "redecorated" in odd color and symbol which express a unique design when viewed from above
the hospitals are national centers for crises patients that are expected to die imminently from out of the blue circumstances
as in: a consistent flow of people whom suddenly are most likely are going to die no matter what medical assistance is administered
the ones that do not die are two types
those that remember nothing
those that watched themselves being operated on from above


Near-death experience

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Out-of-body experience

One in ten people has an out-of-body experience once, or more commonly, several times in his or her life but scientists still know little about the phenomenon
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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for some years in the uk our authorities have been running the following.
3 hospitals that possess isolated from all others operating theaters
these theaters are regularly and randomly without staff prior knowledge "redecorated" in odd color and symbol which express a unique design when viewed from above
the hospitals are national centers for crises patients that are expected to die imminently from out of the blue circumstances
as in: a consistent flow of people whom suddenly are most likely are going to die no matter what medical assistance is administered
the ones that do not die are two types
those that remember nothing
those that watched themselves being operated on from above

Near-death experience

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Out-of-body experience

One in ten people has an out-of-body experience once, or more commonly, several times in his or her life but scientists still know little about the phenomenon
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


I would be interested in what 0, had to say about the bolded comments above.
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That is fascinating about the hospitals aether.

Also I was reading Cheshire cats posts and it was exactly my thoughts on the subject just yesterday in an email to a friend I was disscussing my obe's and the being I have seen with the crest, when I have asked within who he was he is me is the answer received.

For some time this has caused a confusion in me because I was still looking without although I believed I was looking within, I believed it was someone seperate from me, maybe my experiences I have been having have been a convergance of me, like my timelines are beginning to roll in to one I am being guided by my past present and future.

Nice Sunday morning musing going on in my happy head today lol.
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This looks really cool, everyone would all be walking about oohhing and ahhing hahaha.

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good morning cheshire , j.a.d
it happened again, glp awoke me at 08.10 and there was your post(s) tounge
this time i was energetically prompted to dress and walk,
weather glories , sky nov blue, sun warm and inviting , our environment doing what it normally does , providing complementary dimension in which we emotionally experience (live)
at what i now know to be approx 10.55 i noticed i was back to seeing the familiarity of my house in eye sight and knowing my metropolis i knew i had walked 10 miles or so

where had i been in linear time an observer would utilize to record the distance i traveled (all measurement of distance fixed by our arbitrary fixing of light speed)
the observer would know exactly where i was that whole time

i would agree with the observer that i was here but i would be forced to tell the observer that although i was always aware i was here, my conscious 5% (self) of my conscious process mostly experienced not being here at all

consequently my memory possess/retains the background orientation/comfortable sensation of this material dimension (location) only, that which the observer observed and could measure

my memory of actually where i was and what i was doing i can explain to the observer but there is only two ways the observer will know what i am talking about

i took them with me
or
observer and i possess common agreement how and why my conscious 5% self was not in this dimension while my physical presence within this dimension was observed

this and related topics are the essence of our current 21st century debate within military and religious circles

lovely posts
 Quoting: aether



This happens to people often, they stop perceiving time and find themselves discussing how quick the time has passed, time did not pass as it is only a measurement, they stopped measuring between experiences, maybe...
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of the patients interviewed possessing memory considered accurate by our authorities as in:
saw all aspects of the color/symbol design

they possess this in common:
all felt themselves, experienced motion as in sitting, flying, hovering etc. but experienced it because they were doing it, they experience no material sensation of their doing it from our material dimension. as in:
sitting on a window ledge to them was sitting on a window ledge because the desired to and did. they did not sense the actual ledge they experience only going to it (motion) and sitting on it , they replicated it`s location and sat on it in it`s location.

they all hear sound but appear to receive sound from our material dimension via communicative intuition:as in
they see surgeons talking and know what they are saying including accents etc. but they do not experience these sounds as they do these:
the sounds that to them are heard by carried sound (wave) are unlike sound they have heard before when in body and most often are of musical tone, to them, often including trumpet like sounds etc: leading our authorities to consider the carried sounds are locational to the "dimension" they are in

all see color normally

none remember their shape, all know it was themselves of familiar shape but non remember noticing their arms or legs etc. although all know they are there: as in
they experience the same sensations of possessing their bodies but never see their bodies

none feel in both location , body in theater and themselves
all know they are no longer in their material body and experience no sensation from it at all

the time they experience is gauged by the length of time their observations took to perform and this varies from minutes to one or two hours

they experience no sense of time while out of their body

all returned into their bodies while in the theater, none know how and some regret doing so

all appear profoundly thoughtful of their experience afterwards

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Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not.

I could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: Theosophy


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Keep your Ison the skys, it's gonna be amazing if it happens :)

And now talk of the supernova. Awesome stuff.
smile_kiss
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So, from the standpoint of “stationary waves” (Tesla’s terminology) as applied to the solar system the overall system as a whole has its integrity and consistency ‘integrated’ with each individual ‘node’ whether harmonious or dissonant. Each ‘node’ is individually able to interact with the others singularly and/or jointly whether ‘relaxing’ or 'inducing' the ‘tensions’ that may occur within the confines of the overall integration. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: Theosophy


Is the sun's field "inducing" the comets to relax it's increasing (?) tension ?
The comet is spiraling towards it's future rendezvous with the sun, right ?
From reading the "G-Cloud is the Answer" it seems we are in the Z-pinch [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


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structure and function can never be separated

this is the suggested motive:

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally

it is not authorized and is not anticipated to be authorized before 1.1.2016
 Quoting: aether


maybe. But the structure of our bodies doesn't function eternally, for example...if made from the same stuff.

But the phoenix fits.
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that is a plasmoid going into the volcano, volcanoes are electrical in nature and magma is in a plasma state
they will enter a volcano in the same way they enter our sun, it is a natural habitat for them but it is not often we observe them going into volcanoes, normally they hover around them in their more common orb shape

the other video seer showed of a similar cigar shaped object possessed a structure that looked less organic in design than a plasmoid

los almos displays a volcano but discusses earthquakes
 Quoting: aether


The gases, solids, and liquids illustrated above can be brought back into a plasma state, from which they derived, by the application of intense energies, such as meteorite impacts, earthquakes, or nuclear explosions
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

 Quoting: aether


UFO that flew into Popocatepetl vulcano 28 Oct, ... flew out back 15 Nov

Thread: UFO that flew into Popocatepetl vulcano 28 Oct, ... flew out back 15 Nov

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Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not.

I could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there.
 Quoting: Theosophy

 Quoting: aether


The hydrogen and helium content of our heliosphere is being transformed. The interstellar environment has been leaking into our solar system for the last 30 - 40 years.
This is a fundamental change in our environment of which the ramifications are unknown.

This change to are solar system's environment is but one of many. What it portends is change is coming.

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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structure and function can never be separated

this is the suggested motive:

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally

it is not authorized and is not anticipated to be authorized before 1.1.2016
 Quoting: aether


maybe. But the structure of our bodies doesn't function eternally, for example...if made from the same stuff.

But the phoenix fits.
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the phoenix fits very well indeed tounge

our universe is non material and material in dimension and
we discovered that materiel expression(structure) of our material dimension from micro to macro is transitory scaled invariance materialization

imagination will only see
what awareness knows can be

now we have through experience discovered information that explains the existence of our non material dimensions and their interactive connectivity to our material dimensions our sensitives among us are applying their new information are able to emotionally enter what their knowing now knows existence thus our remote sensing ability (imagination) can successfully translate into reality what it discovers within our non material dimensions
and
the reason our emotional remote sensing (imagination) can successfully and accurately fit into (enter) our non material dimensions is because , as we have discovered, our conscious process , our self aware self is constructed of the same ingredients as are our non material dimensions
the baseline ingredients that are the essence/fabric of our dimensions generally is the same essence/fabric that is our self , traditionally labeled soul
so becoming familiar with our non material dimensions not only alters how we construct our societies to mimic our environments self organizing self sufficiency, it gets us familiar with the dimensions that we emotionally remain sensitive within when we die (divest ourselves of material form) prior to us sensing where we next rebirth (are attracted to) and become emotionally material in expression again within our transitory scale invariance materialization (rebirth) process
 Quoting: aether
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Was told in the trauma part of this one hospital, there is a room/area that the patient always dies in. I don't remember the number, but the nurses joked it was cursed.
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What separates the non material from the material? Structure, time, something else, veil? Can those two ever meld together, or is it like those two clouds, just rubbing up against each other?
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In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously.
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I have a similar understanding, the spirit is who we truly are, and it leaves an imprint in every incarnation we have, the soul inside the flesh.

the spirit does not percieve time as we do, everything has already happened or is happening at the same time.

I remember seeing the swedish medium that would channel a being that explained that "the rider" was something above our experience down here, and it had multiple incarnations to keep track of, at the same time.
like beads on a string.
the rider is the string and the incarnations are the beads.

I just see, what he refers to as a rider, as the spirit that we are.
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In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously.
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I have a similar understanding, the spirit is who we truly are, and it leaves an imprint in every incarnation we have, the soul inside the flesh.

the spirit does not percieve time as we do, everything has already happened or is happening at the same time.

I remember seeing the swedish medium that would channel a being that explained that "the rider" was something above our experience down here, and it had multiple incarnations to keep track of, at the same time.
like beads on a string.
the rider is the string and the incarnations are the beads.

I just see, what he refers to as a rider, as the spirit that we are.
 Quoting: Michael_


What of attractions and fields? Are we not attracted to that which we feel gives us that something for whatever reason we deem that to be of import?

If conciousness, not memory or any function of object permanence, is key to sum. Will we not repeat what most innately attracts us without the buffer of memories preconceived associations?

This concept alone would pay us our due. As we know the artist secretly reproduces themselves.

The Buddhists tell you not to imagine self upon dying as you will be pulled back by the gravity of the visualization. The Incan Kings bred with their closest relatives to ensure little deviation in family to that which they would return (compounding sorrows and material Karmas fate).

Let go of what you know lest it consume you.
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What separates the non material from the material? Structure, time, something else, veil? Can those two ever meld together, or is it like those two clouds, just rubbing up against each other?
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Belief and ability (will)
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What separates the non material from the material? Structure, time, something else, veil? Can those two ever meld together, or is it like those two clouds, just rubbing up against each other?
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let`s hover over the word time for a while

Dynamical system

A dynamical system is a concept in mathematics where a fixed rule describes the time dependence of a point in a geometrical space. Examples include the mathematical models that describe the swinging of a clock pendulum, the flow of water in a pipe, and the number of fish each springtime in a lake.

At any given time a dynamical system has a state given by a set of real numbers (a vector) that can be represented by a point in an appropriate state space (a geometrical manifold). Small changes in the state of the system create small changes in the numbers. The evolution rule of the dynamical system is a fixed rule that describes what future states follow from the current state. The rule is deterministic; in other words, for a given time interval only one future state follows from the current state.
 Quoting: observation

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our linear counting systems enable us to form predictions which appear to us to form our notion of time as embedded into reality

Time-invariant system

A time-invariant (TIV) system is one whose output does not depend explicitly on time
 Quoting: observation

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then we discovered our environment (universe) utilizes time invariant system (timeless) that manifest transient dynamical systems

a layer of a layer tounge
 Quoting: aether


we discovered that we can and do replicate galaxies , for example, utilizing plasma in laboratories both on earth and in space and we notice that everything we observe occurring in our universe to galaxies occurs in our laboratories to what we have created

there is no difference no matter if what we create (galaxy) last a second, an hour , a day whatever , as long as we sustain (power) the process(s) it always does the same things

it may be an inch in size, a foot, a yard , no matter , the process(s) always do the same things from start to finish , replicating what every galaxy does from it`s beginning to end

this tells us that from galaxies down to the miro everything is doing what it does unconnected to our label system called time

under our label system (time) some things do what they so in parts of a second, some in days and all the way up to billions of linear years

what all processes have in common is they are all time invariant (unaffected by time)

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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
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Even the mucous membrane?
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The sun is in the z-pinch of the twisting/twining clouds. While the clouds 'spin' around us, making it appear they are moving at right angles. Interesting. I like it.
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hey sapt
moving group dynamics which also will give us back up data to why our sun does what it does

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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
 Quoting: aether


Even the mucous membrane?
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that sound yuck

lol
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anyone else cozy sleepy today?
i was high energy until a hour or so ago
now i could cuddle and loon
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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
 Quoting: aether


Even the mucous membrane?
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


that sound yuck

lol
 Quoting: aether


elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
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elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


got it
yes we have and yes
seems like it translates
where is our translator cos you know i`m crap at translating some vocabularies
actually
all of them
my history here proves it tounge

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