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structure and function can never be separated

this is the suggested motive:

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally

it is not authorized and is not anticipated to be authorized before 1.1.2016
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maybe. But the structure of our bodies doesn't function eternally, for example...if made from the same stuff.

But the phoenix fits.
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that is a plasmoid going into the volcano, volcanoes are electrical in nature and magma is in a plasma state
they will enter a volcano in the same way they enter our sun, it is a natural habitat for them but it is not often we observe them going into volcanoes, normally they hover around them in their more common orb shape

the other video seer showed of a similar cigar shaped object possessed a structure that looked less organic in design than a plasmoid

los almos displays a volcano but discusses earthquakes
 Quoting: aether


The gases, solids, and liquids illustrated above can be brought back into a plasma state, from which they derived, by the application of intense energies, such as meteorite impacts, earthquakes, or nuclear explosions
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

Cigar-shaped UFO's - Plasma "pinches" in the sky?

 Quoting: aether


UFO that flew into Popocatepetl vulcano 28 Oct, ... flew out back 15 Nov

Thread: UFO that flew into Popocatepetl vulcano 28 Oct, ... flew out back 15 Nov

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Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not.

I could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there.
 Quoting: Theosophy

 Quoting: aether


The hydrogen and helium content of our heliosphere is being transformed. The interstellar environment has been leaking into our solar system for the last 30 - 40 years.
This is a fundamental change in our environment of which the ramifications are unknown.

This change to are solar system's environment is but one of many. What it portends is change is coming.

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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structure and function can never be separated

this is the suggested motive:

the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally

it is not authorized and is not anticipated to be authorized before 1.1.2016
 Quoting: aether


maybe. But the structure of our bodies doesn't function eternally, for example...if made from the same stuff.

But the phoenix fits.
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the phoenix fits very well indeed tounge

our universe is non material and material in dimension and
we discovered that materiel expression(structure) of our material dimension from micro to macro is transitory scaled invariance materialization

imagination will only see
what awareness knows can be

now we have through experience discovered information that explains the existence of our non material dimensions and their interactive connectivity to our material dimensions our sensitives among us are applying their new information are able to emotionally enter what their knowing now knows existence thus our remote sensing ability (imagination) can successfully translate into reality what it discovers within our non material dimensions
and
the reason our emotional remote sensing (imagination) can successfully and accurately fit into (enter) our non material dimensions is because , as we have discovered, our conscious process , our self aware self is constructed of the same ingredients as are our non material dimensions
the baseline ingredients that are the essence/fabric of our dimensions generally is the same essence/fabric that is our self , traditionally labeled soul
so becoming familiar with our non material dimensions not only alters how we construct our societies to mimic our environments self organizing self sufficiency, it gets us familiar with the dimensions that we emotionally remain sensitive within when we die (divest ourselves of material form) prior to us sensing where we next rebirth (are attracted to) and become emotionally material in expression again within our transitory scale invariance materialization (rebirth) process
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Was told in the trauma part of this one hospital, there is a room/area that the patient always dies in. I don't remember the number, but the nurses joked it was cursed.
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What separates the non material from the material? Structure, time, something else, veil? Can those two ever meld together, or is it like those two clouds, just rubbing up against each other?
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In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously.
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I have a similar understanding, the spirit is who we truly are, and it leaves an imprint in every incarnation we have, the soul inside the flesh.

the spirit does not percieve time as we do, everything has already happened or is happening at the same time.

I remember seeing the swedish medium that would channel a being that explained that "the rider" was something above our experience down here, and it had multiple incarnations to keep track of, at the same time.
like beads on a string.
the rider is the string and the incarnations are the beads.

I just see, what he refers to as a rider, as the spirit that we are.
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In 3d, you were some guy in the 1600s and then you "die" and come back as someone in the 1900s. But in 4d, you are both of those people simultaneously.
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I have a similar understanding, the spirit is who we truly are, and it leaves an imprint in every incarnation we have, the soul inside the flesh.

the spirit does not percieve time as we do, everything has already happened or is happening at the same time.

I remember seeing the swedish medium that would channel a being that explained that "the rider" was something above our experience down here, and it had multiple incarnations to keep track of, at the same time.
like beads on a string.
the rider is the string and the incarnations are the beads.

I just see, what he refers to as a rider, as the spirit that we are.
 Quoting: Michael_


What of attractions and fields? Are we not attracted to that which we feel gives us that something for whatever reason we deem that to be of import?

If conciousness, not memory or any function of object permanence, is key to sum. Will we not repeat what most innately attracts us without the buffer of memories preconceived associations?

This concept alone would pay us our due. As we know the artist secretly reproduces themselves.

The Buddhists tell you not to imagine self upon dying as you will be pulled back by the gravity of the visualization. The Incan Kings bred with their closest relatives to ensure little deviation in family to that which they would return (compounding sorrows and material Karmas fate).

Let go of what you know lest it consume you.
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What separates the non material from the material? Structure, time, something else, veil? Can those two ever meld together, or is it like those two clouds, just rubbing up against each other?
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Belief and ability (will)
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What separates the non material from the material? Structure, time, something else, veil? Can those two ever meld together, or is it like those two clouds, just rubbing up against each other?
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let`s hover over the word time for a while

Dynamical system

A dynamical system is a concept in mathematics where a fixed rule describes the time dependence of a point in a geometrical space. Examples include the mathematical models that describe the swinging of a clock pendulum, the flow of water in a pipe, and the number of fish each springtime in a lake.

At any given time a dynamical system has a state given by a set of real numbers (a vector) that can be represented by a point in an appropriate state space (a geometrical manifold). Small changes in the state of the system create small changes in the numbers. The evolution rule of the dynamical system is a fixed rule that describes what future states follow from the current state. The rule is deterministic; in other words, for a given time interval only one future state follows from the current state.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

our linear counting systems enable us to form predictions which appear to us to form our notion of time as embedded into reality

Time-invariant system

A time-invariant (TIV) system is one whose output does not depend explicitly on time
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

then we discovered our environment (universe) utilizes time invariant system (timeless) that manifest transient dynamical systems

a layer of a layer tounge
 Quoting: aether


we discovered that we can and do replicate galaxies , for example, utilizing plasma in laboratories both on earth and in space and we notice that everything we observe occurring in our universe to galaxies occurs in our laboratories to what we have created

there is no difference no matter if what we create (galaxy) last a second, an hour , a day whatever , as long as we sustain (power) the process(s) it always does the same things

it may be an inch in size, a foot, a yard , no matter , the process(s) always do the same things from start to finish , replicating what every galaxy does from it`s beginning to end

this tells us that from galaxies down to the miro everything is doing what it does unconnected to our label system called time

under our label system (time) some things do what they so in parts of a second, some in days and all the way up to billions of linear years

what all processes have in common is they are all time invariant (unaffected by time)

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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
 Quoting: aether


Even the mucous membrane?
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The sun is in the z-pinch of the twisting/twining clouds. While the clouds 'spin' around us, making it appear they are moving at right angles. Interesting. I like it.
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hey sapt
moving group dynamics which also will give us back up data to why our sun does what it does

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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
 Quoting: aether


Even the mucous membrane?
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


that sound yuck

lol
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anyone else cozy sleepy today?
i was high energy until a hour or so ago
now i could cuddle and loon
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and the reason we can do this is this:

until we could form matter into a plasma state we could never model in the material our universe is mostly constructed of

In volume, 99.999% of all the observable matter in the universe exists in the plasma state. This had led to the coinage of the term "Plasma Universe."
 Quoting: Los Alamos

[link to plasmauniverse.info]

when we began modeling in plasma we discovered it possess what you may call " a life of it`s own" as in:
it behaves differently to any material (matter) we have a history of knowing
 Quoting: aether


Even the mucous membrane?
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


that sound yuck

lol
 Quoting: aether


elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
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elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


got it
yes we have and yes
seems like it translates
where is our translator cos you know i`m crap at translating some vocabularies
actually
all of them
my history here proves it tounge
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Israeli envoy arrives in Cairo to discuss cease-fire

An Israeli official confirmed a report that said that an official envoy arrived in Egypt to pave the way to a two-stage cease-fire that Israel is 'keen' to conclude.
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


got it
yes we have and yes
seems like it translates
where is our translator cos you know i`m crap at translating some vocabularies
actually
all of them
my history here proves it tounge
 Quoting: aether


That's okay. That is why I'm a tedious bastard. I need to hand this information down to a bunch of lads far more tedious than myself.

In universal process we shall become more aware of the vastness of that which is us and the infinite and eternal potentialities within.

A God so large needs a god so small to complete the paradoxical twist.
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Israeli envoy arrives in Cairo to discuss cease-fire

An Israeli official confirmed a report that said that an official envoy arrived in Egypt to pave the way to a two-stage cease-fire that Israel is 'keen' to conclude.
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.haaretz.com]
 Quoting: aether


Perhaps we are seeing the first emergent patterns of an echoed effect.
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What of attractions and fields? Are we not attracted to that which we feel gives us that something for whatever reason we deem that to be of import?

If conciousness, not memory or any function of object permanence, is key to sum. Will we not repeat what most innately attracts us without the buffer of memories preconceived associations?

This concept alone would pay us our due. As we know the artist secretly reproduces themselves.

The Buddhists tell you not to imagine self upon dying as you will be pulled back by the gravity of the visualization. The Incan Kings bred with their closest relatives to ensure little deviation in family to that which they would return (compounding sorrows and material Karmas fate).

Let go of what you know lest it consume you.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Your words remind me of anothers...




Alchemical wedding: con't ....



" A CONVERSATION WITH GOD"
interlude: Madness, I am engulfed!


For a nations untimely demise
The stars shine a ruddy lime, putting sinners in their place
The American dream is alive and doing well in the guise of fate
The elite will gladly demon- strate the glory of a job well done
And when the time is ripe
The bursting fruit will decimate
The stench of decay is their sermon
The priest's are lined up in a row counting sheep
Making sure they don't bleat
Our time is our own and the hounds of Hell smell fresh blood
It's maddening to hear their cries!
So sad the minions of weak souls...
I will break you this time
The hands of Hell smear fresh the blood
Again and again

If I don't do it for you who will? He said....
Selective judgement means I love you...
Conditional love means I own you
Rome " WAS" built in a day...
This vision is as old as old
Romans would look great in a suit
A jewish would feel good with a whip!
Not everybody likes to play the game,
I guess it's the perfect time to play

Take off your skin and I'm there..
Holding you like a newborn babe...
Caressing your naked soul as slippery as the glassy moon
Worlds apart I test your will
Your afraid of my intentions and the cool breeze makes you mine

You are mine!

And then he smiled, and said;

The fire consumes the just and the sinner alike
Be grateful your god is gracious and even tempered
The spirit of evil is gods way of saying he loves us
But like the fire, god will consu e all things in his path
The difference is that fire will leave a charred remains,
And god will eat you whole, and clean his teeth with your bones!

Kill your god if any strength remains in your body
Sanctify his murder and be quick!
He knows your weakness, your god is yours!
Bury him quickly and anoint the earth with your tears.....
Lest he come to you in your dreams,.......
To take you away.......

 Quoting: Brian8888

Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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What of attractions and fields? Are we not attracted to that which we feel gives us that something for whatever reason we deem that to be of import?

maybe we are, is there any evidence of this? if not, then it's just another pretty theory :)

If conciousness, not memory or any function of object permanence, is key to sum. Will we not repeat what most innately attracts us without the buffer of memories preconceived associations?

perhaps, there is really no way of telling without the exact same conditions and a repeated test of it, but how?.

This concept alone would pay us our due. As we know the artist secretly reproduces themselves.

The Buddhists tell you not to imagine self upon dying as you will be pulled back by the gravity of the visualization. The Incan Kings bred with their closest relatives to ensure little deviation in family to that which they would return (compounding sorrows and material Karmas fate).

Let go of what you know lest it consume you.

 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


I think the problem with both of our statements is that we lack evidence hehe.
everything is theory
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What of attractions and fields? Are we not attracted to that which we feel gives us that something for whatever reason we deem that to be of import?

maybe we are, is there any evidence of this? if not, then it's just another pretty theory :)

If conciousness, not memory or any function of object permanence, is key to sum. Will we not repeat what most innately attracts us without the buffer of memories preconceived associations?

perhaps, there is really no way of telling without the exact same conditions and a repeated test of it, but how?.

This concept alone would pay us our due. As we know the artist secretly reproduces themselves.

The Buddhists tell you not to imagine self upon dying as you will be pulled back by the gravity of the visualization. The Incan Kings bred with their closest relatives to ensure little deviation in family to that which they would return (compounding sorrows and material Karmas fate).

Let go of what you know lest it consume you.

 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


I think the problem with both of our statements is that we lack evidence hehe.
everything is theory
 Quoting: Michael_


Not at all, It is a discernable pattern. However, A paper with double blind studies and a causality above 70% may take some time.

Thinking of Sheldrake and Abraham I realize we have passed Mckennas extreme novelty juncture.
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elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


got it
yes we have and yes
seems like it translates
where is our translator cos you know i`m crap at translating some vocabularies
actually
all of them
my history here proves it tounge
 Quoting: aether


That's okay. That is why I'm a tedious bastard. I need to hand this information down to a bunch of lads far more tedious than myself.

In universal process we shall become more aware of the vastness of that which is us and the infinite and eternal potentialities within.

A God so large needs a god so small to complete the paradoxical twist.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


self-aggrandizement reaps it own reward
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I would liken it to the tests between separated twins and their proclivities to life choices as being the most efficacious of double blind data gathering.

As children living within their families may be habituated to responses/choice rather than rudimentarily inclined.

As to artists drawing themselves. It is quite a 'regular' and known phenomenon. Much as we seek like to bolster that which are subconciously or conciously aware. We are creatures not so much of habit but functionality inclination which meshes or grates with the external realities of locale.
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elemental property in exchange (charged), osmotic and diffusionary processes.

Does the sweat born and rudimentary cellular division ring any bells?

We've already had this talk.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


got it
yes we have and yes
seems like it translates
where is our translator cos you know i`m crap at translating some vocabularies
actually
all of them
my history here proves it tounge
 Quoting: aether


That's okay. That is why I'm a tedious bastard. I need to hand this information down to a bunch of lads far more tedious than myself.

In universal process we shall become more aware of the vastness of that which is us and the infinite and eternal potentialities within.

A God so large needs a god so small to complete the paradoxical twist.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


self-aggrandizement reaps it own reward
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Self has very little to do with it except in the temporally fixated communicating of it. But yes I find conciousness both great and mystifying.
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a search for the reason for a ripple created should never be soley obliged towards the bottom below,,

nor should it be sought or ever confirmed from the wind above,,

some ripples are part of the all,, existing within time that never exist unless perceived,,

no motive,, no beggining and no end,,

the pefect ripple indeed,,

much love,,
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Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not.

I could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: Theosophy

 Quoting: aether


I like that the mainstream found that the "scattering screens" of enhanced electron density "lie close to the edges of several of our dynamical clouds". The fact that they are so clearly mapping out Birkeland current filaments and double layers without a model to guide them is impressive. If you or I showed these correlations, we'd be accused of interpreting the data to fit our EU model.
Now remember where Sirius sits in this picture: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Remember that we were able to show that only if Sirius and the sun were spiraling along the same axis, would we be able to explain the relationship between Sirius' proper motion and earth's rate of precession. (The work of the Sirius Research Institute is important here). So we have redundancy, with the motion of local clouds giving us the same axis for the Birkeland current, as we were able to derive from looking at star motions alone. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


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Afternoon aether.

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Here is one I took.

Looks like a door...

SiriusOct13

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