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Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them?
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Good point

When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may.

Hence...'musing'.

A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs.

CarefulNow

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


are not any and all decisions motivational process?
 Quoting: aether


In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion.

Just because I know a move does not make it mine own.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes
rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals
starting with
why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age?
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remembering we are within a self aware environment so personal motivation for these topics to a big degree dictates outcome
 Quoting: aether


What if I have no motivations?
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Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them?
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well done, i missed that

95% of your conscious process is motivated as you know

you and several thousands of years of people saying with the 5% knowing self part of conscious that you are not motivated seems nuts to me and possibly feels the same to your 95% conscious process too

maybe a contributing factor to the 5% being switched off at death tounge
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I truly don't understand the thinking that only a small fraction of the brain is being used. A small part may be engaged, but it flows as current and billows as reaction. Much under our awareness.
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Good point

When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may.

Hence...'musing'.

A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs.

:CarefulNow:

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


are not any and all decisions motivational process?
 Quoting: aether


In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion.

Just because I know a move does not make it mine own.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes
rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals
starting with
why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age?
 Quoting: aether


Look at the opposite and equal reflection of contending angels and syncretic symbols throughout the ages and match it with my previous response.
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are not any and all decisions motivational process?
 Quoting: aether


In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion.

Just because I know a move does not make it mine own.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


This is exactly right.

And what I was attempting to describe in your thread yesterday.

When 'thought' can be a trigger, one learns to watch them very closely.

Creating reflex faster than thought.

Thanks.

:)
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are not any and all decisions motivational process?
 Quoting: aether


In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion.

Just because I know a move does not make it mine own.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes
rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals
starting with
why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age?
 Quoting: aether


Look at the opposite and equal reflection of contending angels and syncretic symbols throughout the ages and match it with my previous response.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Awareness of awareness unto itself.
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it is most likely my language barrier tounge
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Good point

When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may.

Hence...'musing'.

A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs.

:CarefulNow:

tounge
 Quoting: Seer777


are not any and all decisions motivational process?
 Quoting: aether


In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion.

Just because I know a move does not make it mine own.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes
rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals
starting with
why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age?
 Quoting: aether


I think one should only rely on oneself. Mastering oneself is true power. Being in desire is being a slave of desire. I didn't realize what that meant. I thought what they were telling to not have any creativity or thought or actions. But really it means not to be led by desire or anything that is not truly you. So the answer and question is 'who are you'.
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written or oral is not my natural way
when i do it my tone often goes astray
linking the words helps me i find
translate exactly what`s in my mind
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rex
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are not any and all decisions motivational process?
 Quoting: aether


In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion.

Just because I know a move does not make it mine own.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes
rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals
starting with
why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age?
 Quoting: aether


I think one should only rely on oneself. Mastering oneself is true power. Being in desire is being a slave of desire. I didn't realize what that meant. I thought what they were telling to not have any creativity or thought or actions. But really it means not to be led by desire or anything that is not truly you. So the answer and question is 'who are you'.
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i like that thumbs
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885
 Quoting: Seer777


i`ll sit on the back seat kerb side tounge
 Quoting: aether


It's a truck.

Bench seat only.

tounge


Hehe...I'm smiling again.

Thank you all.

hugs



SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it.

you need to release your attachment. It is making you upset.

 Quoting: Saptaparna


Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone.

However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either.

So what is the key?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


That is my recent Buddha influence, lol.

It is ok to be attached to things, as long as you do not feel any pain when those attachments are no longer there in your life.

It's quite simple, but is made complex.

I have never really been attached to material things. Then, I met my wife and we had all this 'stuff'. Then, in late 2007 when the economy crashed, we ended up losing pretty much everything within about a year.

It didn't really bother me, because I never really was attached to anything except my family and friends. Long, long story, lol.

But, the pain and suffering with losing everything didn't bother me, but it hit my wife very, very hard. That attachment she had was effecting me and everything around her because it was causing her pain. She felt like a 'loser', etc.

I have always been a 'loser' in that mindeset because I never really cared about being a Dr, or lawyer, or stock broker, or accountant, or any of the other 'prestigious' money making jobs my intelligence was supposed to guide me into.

In the end, she learned her lesson about attachment, which to me was beautiful, because she began to see all those things as truly unimportant.
Saptaparna ~
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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it is most likely my language barrier tounge
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No worries, what makes up our unconcious awareness is likely a far greater push than that which we temporarily ascribe as self and self fulfilled motivations.

Reaction ,in my lexicon, is that which attempts to bring balance.

A motivation can be anything when reflected against personal bias and temporal trend.
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 Quoting: Seer777


i`ll sit on the back seat kerb side tounge
 Quoting: aether


It's a truck.

Bench seat only.

tounge


Hehe...I'm smiling again.

Thank you all.

hugs



SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it.

you need to release your attachment. It is making you upset.

 Quoting: Saptaparna


Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone.

However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either.

So what is the key?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


That is my recent Buddha influence, lol.

It is ok to be attached to things, as long as you do not feel any pain when those attachments are no longer there in your life.

It's quite simple, but is made complex.

I have never really been attached to material things. Then, I met my wife and we had all this 'stuff'. Then, in late 2007 when the economy crashed, we ended up losing pretty much everything within about a year.

It didn't really bother me, because I never really was attached to anything except my family and friends. Long, long story, lol.

But, the pain and suffering with losing everything didn't bother me, but it hit my wife very, very hard. That attachment she had was effecting me and everything around her because it was causing her pain. She felt like a 'loser', etc.

I have always been a 'loser' in that mindeset because I never really cared about being a Dr, or lawyer, or stock broker, or accountant, or any of the other 'prestigious' money making jobs my intelligence was supposed to guide me into.

In the end, she learned her lesson about attachment, which to me was beautiful, because she began to see all those things as truly unimportant.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers.

Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread.
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i`ll sit on the back seat kerb side tounge
 Quoting: aether


It's a truck.

Bench seat only.

tounge


Hehe...I'm smiling again.

Thank you all.

hugs



SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it.

you need to release your attachment. It is making you upset.

 Quoting: Saptaparna


Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone.

However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either.

So what is the key?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


That is my recent Buddha influence, lol.

It is ok to be attached to things, as long as you do not feel any pain when those attachments are no longer there in your life.

It's quite simple, but is made complex.

I have never really been attached to material things. Then, I met my wife and we had all this 'stuff'. Then, in late 2007 when the economy crashed, we ended up losing pretty much everything within about a year.

It didn't really bother me, because I never really was attached to anything except my family and friends. Long, long story, lol.

But, the pain and suffering with losing everything didn't bother me, but it hit my wife very, very hard. That attachment she had was effecting me and everything around her because it was causing her pain. She felt like a 'loser', etc.

I have always been a 'loser' in that mindeset because I never really cared about being a Dr, or lawyer, or stock broker, or accountant, or any of the other 'prestigious' money making jobs my intelligence was supposed to guide me into.

In the end, she learned her lesson about attachment, which to me was beautiful, because she began to see all those things as truly unimportant.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers.

Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Yeah, holy shit, did not expect that.
As Aruna would put it...

* backs away slowly *
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers.

Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Yeah, holy shit, did not expect that.
As Aruna would put it...

* backs away slowly *
 Quoting: Saptaparna


I know, right?

Yikes.


Why are some so quick to judge? To damn another they have never met? To utter false assumptions with no merit? To threaten their families and kin?

What is that about?

Why would someone feel such outrage to feel justified in voicing such a thing...?

Is it an impulse control issue?

Complete lack of empathy? Inability to see past ones own nose?

Is it holding so tight to a delusion that one would burn down anything in their path to hold on to it?


hmm
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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It can be a symptom of ilness
When I worked as an IT supporter, there would sometimes be calls from not so sane people, and their reality just looks very different, and you can't really say anything to them that would comfort them, like you can with a a sane person, since they do not connect what you say.

they get so focused on their own reality, they can't break free.
And the complete lack of empathy, as you said, seems to fit very well.
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It can be a symptom of ilness
When I worked as an IT supporter, there would sometimes be calls from not so sane people, and their reality just looks very different, and you can't really say anything to them that would comfort them, like you can with a a sane person, since they do not connect what you say.

they get so focused on their own reality, they can't break free.
And the complete lack of empathy, as you said, seems to fit very well.
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What is illness?

At its core?


It is Imbalance.


That which is not trained properly toward natural cycles.

The ebb and flow.


You are what you eat rings here...

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As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers.

Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread.
 Quoting: Villi VonderVeener


Yeah, holy shit, did not expect that.
As Aruna would put it...

* backs away slowly *
 Quoting: Saptaparna


I know, right?

Yikes.


Why are some so quick to judge? To damn another they have never met? To utter false assumptions with no merit? To threaten their families and kin?

What is that about?

Why would someone feel such outrage to feel justified in voicing such a thing...?

Is it an impulse control issue?

Complete lack of empathy? Inability to see past ones own nose?

Is it holding so tight to a delusion that one would burn down anything in their path to hold on to it?


hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


generally, tell any lie to get to your truth is normal

until you look from outside of our environment (wrong universe applied) the reason for the anomaly is impossible to see tounge
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generally, tell any lie to get to your truth is normal

until you look from outside of our environment (wrong universe applied) the reason for the anomaly is impossible to see tounge
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Normal?

I certainly hope not.


Morning...

wave
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Explanations That Don’t Explain
Nov 19, 2012


“Planetary nebulae are glowing shells of gas around white dwarfs,” according to the standard explanation. This is a better description of dogma than of the image.

“Astronomers have long debated how these symmetric jets could be created,” the press release continues. “Stars are spherical”; the jets not so much. In fact, not at all. But astronomy has a long history of not letting facts get in the way of good explanations.

The nebula is “likely to have…two white dwarfs at its centre…. As the stars aged, they expanded…, one…sucking material from its companion. This material [formed] an accretion disc.” Gravitational interaction with the binaries caused the disc to precess, or wobble, and the wobbling disc then shaped the jets into knotted twists. The observations “combined…with existing computer modeling to explain in detail for the first time how these bizarre shapes came about.”..............
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generally, tell any lie to get to your truth is normal

until you look from outside of our environment (wrong universe applied) the reason for the anomaly is impossible to see tounge
 Quoting: aether


Normal?

I certainly hope not.


Morning...

wave
 Quoting: Seer777


hey good morning

you feel lovely today
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i had a weird long dream last night which was exciting
the ending was me finally meeting what a lot of people looking and feeling "owned" called the master
top hat and late 18th century cloths
the owned people were filing into this large single story building where my exciting dream had taken which i now see was leading to this meeting via fear build up being applied

so i have the master coming towards me and all these owned people, men and women now filing to the building behind him (master)
and when i turn around there is our daily life going ahead with people bustling around and i notice they can see none of this although it is all happening in plain sight

at which point the master has a syringe in his hand to apply stone injection to me

i awoke at that moment to discover real electrical impulses throughout my entire body, quite noticeable
i got up, made a cheese sandwich and thought about it

satisfied myself as i ate the sandwich source and cause and went back to bed
i returned to the master and ate him
i crunch his head then body thus devoured him head first
this provided me with electrical sensations (pleasant) through my entire body
i ate a selection of others from the dream the same way until satisfied then went straight to sleep and enjoyed a nourishing dream free time
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i had a weird long dream last night which was exciting
the ending was me finally meeting what a lot of people looking and feeling "owned" called the master
top hat and late 18th century cloths
the owned people were filing into this large single story building where my exciting dream had taken which i now see was leading to this meeting via fear build up being applied

so i have the master coming towards me and all these owned people, men and women now filing to the building behind him (master)
and when i turn around there is our daily life going ahead with people bustling around and i notice they can see none of this although it is all happening in plain sight

at which point the master has a syringe in his hand to apply stone injection to me

i awoke at that moment to discover real electrical impulses throughout my entire body, quite noticeable
i got up, made a cheese sandwich and thought about it

satisfied myself as i ate the sandwich source and cause and went back to bed
i returned to the master and ate him
i crunch his head then body thus devoured him head first
this provided me with electrical sensations (pleasant) through my entire body
i ate a selection of others from the dream the same way until satisfied then went straight to sleep and enjoyed a nourishing dream free time
 Quoting: aether


Did any of the appetizers have a particular taste!!!

I was awoken this morning by the words "children of the golden dawn"

I opened my curtains and the sun was rising, bright red light shot through my room, with a wonderful red sky, been researching that sentence and have found some esoteric societies related to it.
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hi
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good morning
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lol

I knew I uploaded this for a reason...


Reason...

lol.

Hahaha...


Ahhh....what a week.


BirdMantis

I am being silly.

kk...?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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Did any of the appetizers have a particular taste!!!

I was awoken this morning by the words "children of the golden dawn"

I opened my curtains and the sun was rising, bright red light shot through my room, with a wonderful red sky, been researching that sentence and have found some esoteric societies related to it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28056231


no taste
sensations throughout i was shocking all thing within our magnetosphere watching/feeling what i was doing while myself appreciating seeing people eaten head first in large bites was shock and awe yuck to observers

the electrical sensations within me as i digested what i was eating was very nice
different to those i awoke experiencing
life providing in their essence as against shock input/pulse

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lol

I knew I uploaded this for a reason...


Reason...

lol.

Hahaha...


Ahhh....what a week.


BirdMantis

I am being silly.

kk...?
 Quoting: Seer777


kkkkkk hugs
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ah no I didn't mean when people are judgemental hehe, I was referring to the comment about that other thread from yesterday.


being judgemental/quick to judge others and lacking empathy is not something I would consider an illness hehe.
that might just be lack of experience?


ah Im not the only one with strange dreams :D
wope up early and had this dream about being in a old fashion duel with black power pistols lol.

I remember standing in front of my opponent and turning my side to her, the pistol arm furthest away, right before the shot, and it missed, then I fired and hit her in the right side, the sound was intense, loud and sharp.

then another pistol went off and wounded my helper of sorts, I remember seeing the bullet wound and asking for help and painkilling medicine, now that I think about it, the bullet wound on my helper was in the same spot that I hit my opponent.

I don't know why it was a woman I had to duel, not very noble of me!

oh and morning! btw
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