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| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 5684988 11/18/2012 07:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 5684988 11/18/2012 07:32 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a truck. Bench seat only. Hehe...I'm smiling again. Thank you all. SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it. Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone. However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either. So what is the key? "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 11/18/2012 07:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a truck. Bench seat only. Hehe...I'm smiling again. Thank you all. SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it. Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone. However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either. So what is the key? attach to someone/something that satisfies your expectation |
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| aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 11/18/2012 08:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | remembering we are within a self aware environment so personal motivation for these topics to a big degree dictates outcome Quoting: aether What if I have no motivations? Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them? well done, i missed that 95% of your conscious process is motivated as you know you and several thousands of years of people saying with the 5% knowing self part of conscious that you are not motivated seems nuts to me and possibly feels the same to your 95% conscious process too maybe a contributing factor to the 5% being switched off at death Last Edited by aether on 11/18/2012 08:29 PM |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 5684988 11/18/2012 08:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them? Good point When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may. Hence...'musing'. A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs. ![]() "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
| aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 11/18/2012 08:30 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them? Good point When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may. Hence...'musing'. A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs. ![]() are not any and all decisions motivational process? |
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| Villi VonderVeener User ID: 27671008 11/18/2012 08:34 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them? Good point When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may. Hence...'musing'. A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs. ![]() are not any and all decisions motivational process? In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. I lik like |
| aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 11/18/2012 08:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635 Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them? Good point When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may. Hence...'musing'. A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs. ![]() are not any and all decisions motivational process? In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals starting with why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age? |
| Villi VonderVeener User ID: 27671008 11/18/2012 08:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | remembering we are within a self aware environment so personal motivation for these topics to a big degree dictates outcome Quoting: aether What if I have no motivations? Isn't that what some eastern cultures teach? Get rid of own will and desire to transcend them? well done, i missed that 95% of your conscious process is motivated as you know you and several thousands of years of people saying with the 5% knowing self part of conscious that you are not motivated seems nuts to me and possibly feels the same to your 95% conscious process too maybe a contributing factor to the 5% being switched off at death I truly don't understand the thinking that only a small fraction of the brain is being used. A small part may be engaged, but it flows as current and billows as reaction. Much under our awareness. I lik like |
| Villi VonderVeener User ID: 27671008 11/18/2012 08:39 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 Good point When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may. Hence...'musing'. A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs. ![]() are not any and all decisions motivational process? In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals starting with why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age? Look at the opposite and equal reflection of contending angels and syncretic symbols throughout the ages and match it with my previous response. I lik like |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 5684988 11/18/2012 08:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. This is exactly right. And what I was attempting to describe in your thread yesterday. When 'thought' can be a trigger, one learns to watch them very closely. Creating reflex faster than thought. Thanks. :) "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
| Villi VonderVeener User ID: 27671008 11/18/2012 08:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals starting with why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age? Look at the opposite and equal reflection of contending angels and syncretic symbols throughout the ages and match it with my previous response. Awareness of awareness unto itself. I lik like |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17984635 11/18/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seer777 Good point When one is allowed to just flow with what comes, there is no expectation to where it leads. It's just like hopping on a wave and letting it carry you where it may. Hence...'musing'. A bit like throwing caution to the wind. But with the confidence knowing that one is a strong enough swimmer if the unexpected occurs. :CarefulNow: are not any and all decisions motivational process? In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals starting with why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age? I think one should only rely on oneself. Mastering oneself is true power. Being in desire is being a slave of desire. I didn't realize what that meant. I thought what they were telling to not have any creativity or thought or actions. But really it means not to be led by desire or anything that is not truly you. So the answer and question is 'who are you'. |
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| aether (OP) User ID: 27775913 11/18/2012 08:53 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In reaction the motivations cannot be seen as your own. martial arts stresses automatic pattern reactions faster than thought and stronger than emotion. Just because I know a move does not make it mine own. well if you rely on your "opponents" signals yes rely on our environments signals gives a whole different set of signals starting with why was there no martial arts in our global memory called golden age? I think one should only rely on oneself. Mastering oneself is true power. Being in desire is being a slave of desire. I didn't realize what that meant. I thought what they were telling to not have any creativity or thought or actions. But really it means not to be led by desire or anything that is not truly you. So the answer and question is 'who are you'. i like that |
| Saptaparna User ID: 14874606 11/18/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a truck. Bench seat only. Hehe...I'm smiling again. Thank you all. SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it. Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone. However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either. So what is the key? That is my recent Buddha influence, lol. It is ok to be attached to things, as long as you do not feel any pain when those attachments are no longer there in your life. It's quite simple, but is made complex. I have never really been attached to material things. Then, I met my wife and we had all this 'stuff'. Then, in late 2007 when the economy crashed, we ended up losing pretty much everything within about a year. It didn't really bother me, because I never really was attached to anything except my family and friends. Long, long story, lol. But, the pain and suffering with losing everything didn't bother me, but it hit my wife very, very hard. That attachment she had was effecting me and everything around her because it was causing her pain. She felt like a 'loser', etc. I have always been a 'loser' in that mindeset because I never really cared about being a Dr, or lawyer, or stock broker, or accountant, or any of the other 'prestigious' money making jobs my intelligence was supposed to guide me into. In the end, she learned her lesson about attachment, which to me was beautiful, because she began to see all those things as truly unimportant. Saptaparna ~ Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being. ~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending. ~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays? |
| Villi VonderVeener User ID: 27671008 11/18/2012 08:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No worries, what makes up our unconcious awareness is likely a far greater push than that which we temporarily ascribe as self and self fulfilled motivations. Reaction ,in my lexicon, is that which attempts to bring balance. A motivation can be anything when reflected against personal bias and temporal trend. I lik like |
| Villi VonderVeener User ID: 27671008 11/18/2012 09:03 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a truck. Bench seat only. Hehe...I'm smiling again. Thank you all. SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it. Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone. However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either. So what is the key? That is my recent Buddha influence, lol. It is ok to be attached to things, as long as you do not feel any pain when those attachments are no longer there in your life. It's quite simple, but is made complex. I have never really been attached to material things. Then, I met my wife and we had all this 'stuff'. Then, in late 2007 when the economy crashed, we ended up losing pretty much everything within about a year. It didn't really bother me, because I never really was attached to anything except my family and friends. Long, long story, lol. But, the pain and suffering with losing everything didn't bother me, but it hit my wife very, very hard. That attachment she had was effecting me and everything around her because it was causing her pain. She felt like a 'loser', etc. I have always been a 'loser' in that mindeset because I never really cared about being a Dr, or lawyer, or stock broker, or accountant, or any of the other 'prestigious' money making jobs my intelligence was supposed to guide me into. In the end, she learned her lesson about attachment, which to me was beautiful, because she began to see all those things as truly unimportant. As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers. Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread. I lik like |
| Saptaparna User ID: 14874606 11/18/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a truck. Bench seat only. Hehe...I'm smiling again. Thank you all. SS mentioned this to another earlier and I have been musing on it. Because in fact it is true. We allow those to whom we are attached to have more flexibility and leniency on what we are willing to endure through said attachment alone. However, how one remains attachment-less does not seem a viable alternative, either. So what is the key? That is my recent Buddha influence, lol. It is ok to be attached to things, as long as you do not feel any pain when those attachments are no longer there in your life. It's quite simple, but is made complex. I have never really been attached to material things. Then, I met my wife and we had all this 'stuff'. Then, in late 2007 when the economy crashed, we ended up losing pretty much everything within about a year. It didn't really bother me, because I never really was attached to anything except my family and friends. Long, long story, lol. But, the pain and suffering with losing everything didn't bother me, but it hit my wife very, very hard. That attachment she had was effecting me and everything around her because it was causing her pain. She felt like a 'loser', etc. I have always been a 'loser' in that mindeset because I never really cared about being a Dr, or lawyer, or stock broker, or accountant, or any of the other 'prestigious' money making jobs my intelligence was supposed to guide me into. In the end, she learned her lesson about attachment, which to me was beautiful, because she began to see all those things as truly unimportant. As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers. Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread. Yeah, holy shit, did not expect that. As Aruna would put it... * backs away slowly * Saptaparna ~ Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being. ~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending. ~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays? |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 11/18/2012 10:38 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I said to Seer, life is in the relationships, not the numbers. Quoting: Villi VonderVeener Now stop riling up the infirm i the nobody thread. Yeah, holy shit, did not expect that. As Aruna would put it... * backs away slowly * I know, right? Yikes. Why are some so quick to judge? To damn another they have never met? To utter false assumptions with no merit? To threaten their families and kin? What is that about? Why would someone feel such outrage to feel justified in voicing such a thing...? Is it an impulse control issue? Complete lack of empathy? Inability to see past ones own nose? Is it holding so tight to a delusion that one would burn down anything in their path to hold on to it? "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
| Michael_ User ID: 1805432 11/19/2012 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can be a symptom of ilness When I worked as an IT supporter, there would sometimes be calls from not so sane people, and their reality just looks very different, and you can't really say anything to them that would comfort them, like you can with a a sane person, since they do not connect what you say. they get so focused on their own reality, they can't break free. And the complete lack of empathy, as you said, seems to fit very well. Last Edited by Michael_ on 11/19/2012 03:51 AM |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 11/19/2012 04:31 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can be a symptom of ilness Quoting: Michael_ When I worked as an IT supporter, there would sometimes be calls from not so sane people, and their reality just looks very different, and you can't really say anything to them that would comfort them, like you can with a a sane person, since they do not connect what you say. they get so focused on their own reality, they can't break free. And the complete lack of empathy, as you said, seems to fit very well. What is illness? At its core? It is Imbalance. That which is not trained properly toward natural cycles. The ebb and flow. You are what you eat rings here... ;) ![]() "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
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