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So what are archetypes exactly? non material thoughtform creations? Like the material thoughtforms are our creations? I'm confused! lol
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for people created ones the description i find most fitting is this:

Egregore

Egregore (also egregor) is an occult concept representing a "thoughtform" or "collective group mind", an autonomous psychic entity made up of, and influencing, the thoughts of a group of people. The symbiotic relationship between an egregore and its group has been compared to the more recent, non-occult concepts of the corporation (as a legal entity) and the meme.
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The Christian plan for spreading abroad the divine power or grace is principally by means of the cele­bration of the Holy Eucharist, commonly called by our Roman brethren the Mass. We must not think of that grace as a sort of poetical expression, or as in the least degree vague and cloudy; we are dealing with a force as definite as electricity - a spiritual power which is spread abroad over the people in certain ways, which leaves its own effect behind it, and needs its own vehicles, just as electricity needs its appropriate machinery.

55. It is possible by clairvoyance to watch the action of that force, to see how the service of the Eucharist builds up a thought-form, through which that force is distributed by the priest with the aid of the Angel invoked for that purpose. It has been so arranged that the attitude of the priest, his knowledge - even his character - does not in any way interfere with the due effect of the Sacrament.* (*See No. 26 of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England in The Book of Common Prayer.) There is, in any case, an irreducible minimum which is transmitted. So long as he performs the pre­scribed ceremonies the result is achieved.* (*See The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, by T. Waterworth, p. 55 (Session VII, Canon xii)) If he is also a devout man, those who receive the Sacrament at his hands have the additional benefit of a share in his love and devotion, but that in no way affects the value of the Sacrament itself; whatever his failings, the divine strength is outpoured upon the people.
 Quoting: Theosophy

[link to www.anandgholap.net]
 Quoting: aether


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sea I see
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That is how I read it as well...
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that creepy reference is archetypes, gods will, people
not relevant to sang froid anymore than any us tounge
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oh my mistake
i get it
nice analogy hugs
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:)



Hehe...

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Oh and i never helped anyone who said no. And everyone, even Bree said thank you. Best she could. Some things people act like they are searching for the spend vast amouts of energy denying themselves because they feel the search gives them value as a person. And some were told so much they were "wrong" as a child the beileved of they could be right once they would be okay.. amd they were always all right they just simply didnt know how to accept that.. and they used their abilities to continue to prove to themselves they were wrong because that was their concept of peace.. being wrong was all they ever knew.. so they use their abilities to establish a system pf self defeat to remain forever at no peace because that was all they knew of peace. Yet it wasnt peace but strife.

I just dp the path laid out. And helping others return to their path ia part of my path.. and sometime its not.

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The Christian plan for spreading abroad the divine power or grace is principally by means of the cele­bration of the Holy Eucharist, commonly called by our Roman brethren the Mass. We must not think of that grace as a sort of poetical expression, or as in the least degree vague and cloudy; we are dealing with a force as definite as electricity - a spiritual power which is spread abroad over the people in certain ways, which leaves its own effect behind it, and needs its own vehicles, just as electricity needs its appropriate machinery.

55. It is possible by clairvoyance to watch the action of that force, to see how the service of the Eucharist builds up a thought-form, through which that force is distributed by the priest with the aid of the Angel invoked for that purpose. It has been so arranged that the attitude of the priest, his knowledge - even his character - does not in any way interfere with the due effect of the Sacrament.* (*See No. 26 of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England in The Book of Common Prayer.) There is, in any case, an irreducible minimum which is transmitted. So long as he performs the pre­scribed ceremonies the result is achieved.* (*See The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, by T. Waterworth, p. 55 (Session VII, Canon xii)) If he is also a devout man, those who receive the Sacrament at his hands have the additional benefit of a share in his love and devotion, but that in no way affects the value of the Sacrament itself; whatever his failings, the divine strength is outpoured upon the people.
 Quoting: Theosophy

[link to www.anandgholap.net]
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


when you read the link you will see electricity/magnetism in the fabric of the building by design
it is why before electricity the tradition throughout world (old) generally is to construct to archetype creator building on previous known location for success

most original sacred sites (ley line/telluric currents) stay the same location but have differing style of architecture built upon them representing the evolving egregores
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The Christian plan for spreading abroad the divine power or grace is principally by means of the cele­bration of the Holy Eucharist, commonly called by our Roman brethren the Mass. We must not think of that grace as a sort of poetical expression, or as in the least degree vague and cloudy; we are dealing with a force as definite as electricity - a spiritual power which is spread abroad over the people in certain ways, which leaves its own effect behind it, and needs its own vehicles, just as electricity needs its appropriate machinery.

55. It is possible by clairvoyance to watch the action of that force, to see how the service of the Eucharist builds up a thought-form, through which that force is distributed by the priest with the aid of the Angel invoked for that purpose. It has been so arranged that the attitude of the priest, his knowledge - even his character - does not in any way interfere with the due effect of the Sacrament.* (*See No. 26 of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England in The Book of Common Prayer.) There is, in any case, an irreducible minimum which is transmitted. So long as he performs the pre­scribed ceremonies the result is achieved.* (*See The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, by T. Waterworth, p. 55 (Session VII, Canon xii)) If he is also a devout man, those who receive the Sacrament at his hands have the additional benefit of a share in his love and devotion, but that in no way affects the value of the Sacrament itself; whatever his failings, the divine strength is outpoured upon the people.
 Quoting: Theosophy

[link to www.anandgholap.net]
 Quoting: aether



when you read the link you will see electricity/magnetism in the fabric of the building by design
it is why before electricity the tradition throughout world (old) generally is to construct to archetype creator building on previous known location for success

most original sacred sites (ley line/telluric currents) stay the same location but have differing style of architecture built upon them representing the evolving egregores
 Quoting: aether


it is the same theosophy we have in the debate i post

for nearly three years they have joined in more openly talking to us and today off line we have a lot in common
they possess the complete history in western terms and a great deal of far east
freemasonry in general says it prompts theosophy as their spokes people on technical matters concerning society and belief in general

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Oh and i never helped anyone who said no. And everyone, even Bree said thank you. Best she could. Some things people act like they are searching for the spend vast amouts of energy denying themselves because they feel the search gives them value as a person. And some were told so much they were "wrong" as a child the beileved of they could be right once they would be okay.. amd they were always all right they just simply didnt know how to accept that.. and they used their abilities to continue to prove to themselves they were wrong because that was their concept of peace.. being wrong was all they ever knew.. so they use their abilities to establish a system pf self defeat to remain forever at no peace because that was all they knew of peace. Yet it wasnt peace but strife.

I just dp the path laid out. And helping others return to their path ia part of my path.. and sometime its not.

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That's cool. Bre was a cool person, lived close to the earth if I remember correctly.

I think most people are self defeating at times. I know I have been. I do wonder why that is.
Abilities, well, that is taboo to most. I think because of the taboo, everything is out of whack. Most people don't have control or even know what they have and how to use it correctly. Plus no teachers or handbook. So that's good your out there helping others.
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Did she ever go by the user name skit or skittle?

I aint afraid. I dont care about my reputation. Lol
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I don't think so 0, she very upfront. It your nutsack
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Awsome. I dont have time for it at the moment.. but if the need arises. I'll have a look at her.

Cold and calculated intrigues me. Have been bested by a girl once or twice.. for a moment hahaha! but in the end.. ruffled feathers and i became friends.

;)

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Cold, calculating
and lying and no ethics, etc. Not just cold and calculating. She'll lie through her teeth without a second thought.
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And that's what she'll get back. Once you become guarded or overly belligerent it's how you construe all discourse and intercourse.
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Did she ever go by the user name skit or skittle?

I aint afraid. I dont care about my reputation. Lol
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I don't think so 0, she very upfront. It your nutsack
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Awsome. I dont have time for it at the moment.. but if the need arises. I'll have a look at her.

Cold and calculated intrigues me. Have been bested by a girl once or twice.. for a moment hahaha! but in the end.. ruffled feathers and i became friends.

;)

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Cold, calculating
and lying and no ethics, etc. Not just cold and calculating. She'll lie through her teeth without a second thought.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Hahahaha! Met quite a few of those. Even tried my hardest to find a common bond and where we could meet evenly.. they were just relentless so i gave them what they were asking for and then they never talked to me again. Lol.

There was this one person.. i fucking gave anad gave and tried to help them until i realised. Shit! There is no satisfying that bottomless pit. So i barried them to help them find humility. They just lambasted everyone that didnt agree with them. They were smart too amd most of the time right. Truth was they were soo afraid inside. Im mean waaay insecure. It was all a front. I knew that.. but i slammed them anyway in open forum. Wasnt pretty and i felt bad. But fuck someone had to do it. Later they thanked me and appologised for being an ass. Then later they turned on me again and i slammed them again. Never heard from them again. I found out later they were in a bad divorce, lost their home and a bunch of other things. They had to go live with their kids.

Pretty shitty life stuff. So i still kinda bad about that person. Im not perfect. But i learn. Thats important.

I dont think this girl your talking about is my issue. Its not my battle. And really i dont feel much like battle. It can be fun as hell though. Riviting! Exhilarating.. but really. Its over rated.

You remember that quote i used on the archtype thread? What is supreme excellence? Sun Tsu.

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I don't think so 0, she very upfront. It your nutsack
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Awsome. I dont have time for it at the moment.. but if the need arises. I'll have a look at her.

Cold and calculated intrigues me. Have been bested by a girl once or twice.. for a moment hahaha! but in the end.. ruffled feathers and i became friends.

;)

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Cold, calculating
and lying and no ethics, etc. Not just cold and calculating. She'll lie through her teeth without a second thought.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


And that's what she'll get back. Once you become guarded or overly belligerent it's how you construe all discourse and intercourse.
 Quoting: Joaquin Dead


Correct! As my old hockey coach used to say. "There are those who are humble and those who are about to be humbled. Let it be them!!"

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Oh and i never helped anyone who said no. And everyone, even Bree said thank you. Best she could. Some things people act like they are searching for the spend vast amouts of energy denying themselves because they feel the search gives them value as a person. And some were told so much they were "wrong" as a child the beileved of they could be right once they would be okay.. amd they were always all right they just simply didnt know how to accept that.. and they used their abilities to continue to prove to themselves they were wrong because that was their concept of peace.. being wrong was all they ever knew.. so they use their abilities to establish a system pf self defeat to remain forever at no peace because that was all they knew of peace. Yet it wasnt peace but strife.

I just dp the path laid out. And helping others return to their path ia part of my path.. and sometime its not.

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That's cool. Bre was a cool person, lived close to the earth if I remember correctly.

I think most people are self defeating at times. I know I have been. I do wonder why that is.
Abilities, well, that is taboo to most. I think because of the taboo, everything is out of whack. Most people don't have control or even know what they have and how to use it correctly. Plus no teachers or handbook. So that's good your out there helping others.
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All abilities be they healing, empath and isite are uniquely accessed and used by those who they were given to on a individual basis.

I know a girl who can see damn neer 85-90% accuracy through using the i-ching. I dont know shit about the i ching. Kind seems funny to me. But it works for her because she reads in layers intuitively. She just needed to be loved to find her way. She is on here again. I see you. Always there lurking. Knows where and when to look for me. Lol!

Anyway. How you use your abilities is up to you. I mean look at people like Marilyn Monroe. She was the hottest chick at the time in the world and look at how she found humility. Taking bubble baths and shit like that. Whats that quote. Uhh sometimes im an ass and high maintenance but if you dont love me at my worst then you dont deserve me at my best. Pr something like that. Or Mohammed Ali. Who beat on a heavy bag but is famous for saying learning how to be a friend is more important then anything taught in shool.

How does one learn friendship beating men down and beating on a heavy bag? Got me. But it worked.. and many were blessed by it.

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Awsome. I dont have time for it at the moment.. but if the need arises. I'll have a look at her.

Cold and calculated intrigues me. Have been bested by a girl once or twice.. for a moment hahaha! but in the end.. ruffled feathers and i became friends.

;)

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Cold, calculating
and lying and no ethics, etc. Not just cold and calculating. She'll lie through her teeth without a second thought.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


And that's what she'll get back. Once you become guarded or overly belligerent it's how you construe all discourse and intercourse.
 Quoting: Joaquin Dead


Correct! As my old hockey coach used to say. "There are those who are humble and those who are about to be humbled. Let it be them!!"

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I liked her, she a fighter, in a fight i'd want her on my side.
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this is how i imagine camp fire talking to be
but i have never done it

it`s nice
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The Christian plan for spreading abroad the divine power or grace is principally by means of the cele­bration of the Holy Eucharist, commonly called by our Roman brethren the Mass. We must not think of that grace as a sort of poetical expression, or as in the least degree vague and cloudy; we are dealing with a force as definite as electricity - a spiritual power which is spread abroad over the people in certain ways, which leaves its own effect behind it, and needs its own vehicles, just as electricity needs its appropriate machinery.

55. It is possible by clairvoyance to watch the action of that force, to see how the service of the Eucharist builds up a thought-form, through which that force is distributed by the priest with the aid of the Angel invoked for that purpose. It has been so arranged that the attitude of the priest, his knowledge - even his character - does not in any way interfere with the due effect of the Sacrament.* (*See No. 26 of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England in The Book of Common Prayer.) There is, in any case, an irreducible minimum which is transmitted. So long as he performs the pre­scribed ceremonies the result is achieved.* (*See The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, by T. Waterworth, p. 55 (Session VII, Canon xii)) If he is also a devout man, those who receive the Sacrament at his hands have the additional benefit of a share in his love and devotion, but that in no way affects the value of the Sacrament itself; whatever his failings, the divine strength is outpoured upon the people.
 Quoting: Theosophy

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 Quoting: aether



when you read the link you will see electricity/magnetism in the fabric of the building by design
it is why before electricity the tradition throughout world (old) generally is to construct to archetype creator building on previous known location for success

most original sacred sites (ley line/telluric currents) stay the same location but have differing style of architecture built upon them representing the evolving egregores
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it is the same theosophy we have in the debate i post

for nearly three years they have joined in more openly talking to us and today off line we have a lot in common
they possess the complete history in western terms and a great deal of far east
freemasonry in general says it prompts theosophy as their spokes people on technical matters concerning society and belief in general
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Shoot, I don't know what I'm trying to ask, lol

would 'source or god or whatever you call it' being a creator, have natural thoughtforms within the environment or in the non material? Or are humans tapping into those thoughtforms when creating thoughtforms?
If that makes any senseafro
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THEMIS has even detected these Birkeland Currents, which are termed "magnetic ropes" in the article. [link to www.nasa.gov]
These ropes stretch from the Earth to the Sun and are as wide as the Earth in diameter, at least where measured. The problem is describing plasma events in the language of wind and water, as if somehow that will make the plasma behave like ordinary gasses. An energetic or ionized gas is a plasma and plasma does not react or behave as do gases. This is where their confusion comes in, as they are trying to apply how gases behave to a plasma and must then invent nonsensical mechanisms to explain the missing electric current that exists in all plasma.

The thing with MR is that they want the electrical explosion to be caused by the magnetic field and not by the interrupted current flow. No magnetic field in any lab releases energy until and after the current that is producing it is interrupted first. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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this is how i imagine camp fire talking to be
but i have never done it

it`s nice
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That is a great thought, aether. It is like a camp fire talk, lol.

I can totally see me clam up when I said I am REALLY done talking about it...then, I start stoking the fire with my stick, staring at the undulating moving motions of heat and flames. Sip a beer, and start roaming around in my own thoughts.

God, that feels good.
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oh wait, that tesla quote about nothing exists something something environment comes to mind, duh haha!
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oh wait, that tesla quote about nothing exists something something environment comes to mind, duh haha!
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there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment.
that one
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So why do they create egrogores into certain locations? For what purpose?
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this is how i imagine camp fire talking to be
but i have never done it

it`s nice
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That is a great thought, aether. It is like a camp fire talk, lol.

I can totally see me clam up when I said I am REALLY done talking about it...then, I start stoking the fire with my stick, staring at the undulating moving motions of heat and flames. Sip a beer, and start roaming around in my own thoughts.

God, that feels good.

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ohyeah


Whoa...I can feel that was taken wrong.

Yeesh.


hf

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@ 4real.

I like moxy. Moxy is good. She certainly leaves the impression she has moxy. I dont know her.. but if i do run into her. Im sure i will note that. Lol

Probably why i like Dion and Sapt because they certainly have moxy. Well and they are both ruff around the edges. Alot. Dion who speaks with grand linguistics and his signiture is that of a teen age boy with his finger at the sky. " Why the hell not."

Love that signiture!
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So why do they create egrogores into certain locations? For what purpose?
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oh, I know why
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Whoops...I was trying to preview this, not post it.

Seems I'm on a roll...

lol.

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Whoops...I was trying to preview this, not post it.

Seems I'm on a roll...

lol.
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i agree rockon
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this is how i imagine camp fire talking to be
but i have never done it

it`s nice
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That is a great thought, aether. It is like a camp fire talk, lol.

I can totally see me clam up when I said I am REALLY done talking about it...then, I start stoking the fire with my stick, staring at the undulating moving motions of heat and flames. Sip a beer, and start roaming around in my own thoughts.

God, that feels good.
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Sit between the mirrors and the repetition starts making you forget which you is you and then you end up thinking someone else's thoughts.

:)
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So why do they create egrogores into certain locations? For what purpose?
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oh, I know why
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Whoops...I was trying to preview this, not post it.

Seems I'm on a roll...

lol.
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I prefer the stretch out space on a baguette. ;)
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@ 4real.

I like moxy. Moxy is good. She certainly leaves the impression she has moxy. I dont know her.. but if i do run into her. Im sure i will note that. Lol

Probably why i like Dion and Sapt because they certainly have moxy. Well and they are both ruff around the edges. Alot. Dion who speaks with grand linguistics and his signiture is that of a teen age boy with his finger at the sky. " Why the hell not."

Love that signiture!
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review your Shakspeare, taming of the shrew, she comes out fighting. don't get caught holding your dick. Oh yeah, heads up she a brit.


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