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Question, these structures are what hold the archetypes in their location right? So, if forces change the structure, is they then let loose? or what, if I even have this thinking right?
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I wonder if this ties into the stories of like solomon building the temple and then also jesus and his body being a temple and it being destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days?
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Third times the charm.

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Question, these structures are what hold the archetypes in their location right? So, if forces change the structure, is they then let loose? or what, if I even have this thinking right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


I wonder if this ties into the stories of like solomon building the temple and then also jesus and his body being a temple and it being destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Reminds me of the 'gems'.

I was quite concerned with the very same...as it were.

:)
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So we are shaped by our environment?
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Third times the charm.

cool2
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chuckle
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intense cool2
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Third times the charm.

cool2
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The fourth times the nightmare.

scream
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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So we are shaped by our environment?
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but we influence our environment?
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we have discussed that the field functions within all structures and it`s functions alters dependent upon the shape of the structure
we have suggested the differing field effects have two things in common
1) all effect is as a result of the same field(s)
2) vortical motion is always the expression of the field

thus we may agree that no matter the emotional sensation and informational interaction experienced, the cause and effect is always from the same cause (field(s)) and the effects are always vorticle in origin

with that in mind:

It is possible by clairvoyance to watch the action of that force, to see how the service of the Eucharist builds up a thought-form, through which that force is distributed by the priest with the aid of the Angel invoked for that purpose. It has been so arranged that the attitude of the priest, his knowledge - even his character - does not in any way interfere with the due effect of the Sacrament.* (*See No. 26 of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England in The Book of Common Prayer.) There is, in any case, an irreducible minimum which is transmitted. So long as he performs the pre­scribed ceremonies the result is achieved.* (*See The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, by T. Waterworth, p. 55 (Session VII, Canon xii)) If he is also a devout man, those who receive the Sacrament at his hands have the additional benefit of a share in his love and devotion, but that in no way affects the value of the Sacrament itself; whatever his failings, the divine strength is outpoured upon the people.
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With us also it is the Master of the Lodge who is responsible for the magnetization of the double square, but the Brn. ought all to help in that work. The object is to charge that space heavily with the highest possible influence, and to erect a wall round it in order that the influence may be kept in place. The part played by the thought-form is much like that of a condenser. It matters not how much steam may be generated, it is useless for work unless it is enclosed and kept under pressure. In this scheme we accumulate and use the force which otherwise would scatter itself freely over the surrounding neighbourhood.
 Quoting: 33

[link to www.anandgholap.net]

now the question may be
thought forms by default are fantasy thus have no access to the field because they are not real
they are formed and sustained by human emotion

thus we appear to have the following conundrum in our temples and churches

the shape of the church/temple enhances field effect

the humans within the structure experience altered state and informational enhancement which they transfer into thought form
the thought forms retain the information provided for them by their creators, the human emotions and over time the thought forms become more and more aware as successive generations of their creators die and new disciples replace the dead ones

so the question is
do humans form thought forms to store information and if that is so
why do humans worship them?
 Quoting: aether


what if we are thoughtforms of our creators?1dunno1damnedchuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


not "are" : "house", "process", participate. Just like the little neuron beings in you brain and heart and muscles as well as the free floating microbiota inhabiting you. They make us but are not us, we make God but are not God: all participate.
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So we are shaped by our environment?
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but we influence our environment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Absolutely, yes. We influence our environment.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Question, these structures are what hold the archetypes in their location right? So, if forces change the structure, is they then let loose? or what, if I even have this thinking right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


I wonder if this ties into the stories of like solomon building the temple and then also jesus and his body being a temple and it being destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Reminds me of the 'gems'.

I was quite concerned with the very same...as it were.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Interesting thought I just had that I thought I would share.

In the Spirit Science series I posted some weeks back regarding Thoth and Atlantis.

It is said that which ended the Golden Age was passing through a type of 'void'.

It was pitch black for three days.


The story goes that once the 3 days were up, 'Man' found himself completely senseless and without memory.

However, the Nacals(?) or (Ascended Ones) were able to place the mercaba chariot around their vessel as they were passing through the void, unlike the masses.

So when the nacals reached the 'other side' of the 'void', they still held there previous level of Mind before going into and transitioning through, the 3 day 'void'.

And were then able to pass back into the Collective the history they had all forgotten through much effort and love.


Dunno.

Just a musing.

hf
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So, first the environment changes, then we change, then the archetypes bleed through with less and less distortion. We Become more of our divine selves through these connections of balanced nesting because the archetypes within the non-material are manifesting into the material with more and more purity.

Hope that helps.
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interesting perspective.

define "environment", please.

in my opinion, we don not *become* our divine selves: we are already divine, as are all 'things'.

no.

we allow the divine to *flow thru* us. The 'pathway' is love and the 'switch' , choice and trust.

and sometimes it hurts like u cannot believe, but other times..... [insert personal transcendence here]

it is a whole body/mind experience: both the pain and the joy.


just sayin'
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So we are shaped by our environment?
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but we influence our environment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Absolutely, yes. We influence our environment.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


much much less than you think, Jonny.


much less.


this is a double edged sword.
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So we are shaped by our environment?
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but we influence our environment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Absolutely, yes. We influence our environment.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


much much less than you think, Jonny.


much less.


this is a double edged sword.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


Depends on the force of one's awareness.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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So coming to the same conclusions can take years as politics tends to rule the upper echelons of decision making. Even today these very Birkeland Currents are still being termed as magnetic ropes, even though it has been proven beyond a doubt that they are carrying huge amounts of electrical energy. Change is hard, one must rewrite countless books, change the curriculum at universities, reprint thousands of textbooks, all current experts in specific fields would no longer be experts and need retrained just to teach. All in all a multi-billion dollar expenditure. So don't expect mainstream to admit to anything anytime soon. All changes in cosmology come only after long drawn out battles to unseat those entrenched in power. Sad, but the way it is. Science is far from open minded and is just as political as the politicians [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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we have discussed that the field functions within all structures and it`s functions alters dependent upon the shape of the structure
we have suggested the differing field effects have two things in common
1) all effect is as a result of the same field(s)
2) vortical motion is always the expression of the field

thus we may agree that no matter the emotional sensation and informational interaction experienced, the cause and effect is always from the same cause (field(s)) and the effects are always vorticle in origin

with that in mind:

It is possible by clairvoyance to watch the action of that force, to see how the service of the Eucharist builds up a thought-form, through which that force is distributed by the priest with the aid of the Angel invoked for that purpose. It has been so arranged that the attitude of the priest, his knowledge - even his character - does not in any way interfere with the due effect of the Sacrament.* (*See No. 26 of the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England in The Book of Common Prayer.) There is, in any case, an irreducible minimum which is transmitted. So long as he performs the pre­scribed ceremonies the result is achieved.* (*See The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, by T. Waterworth, p. 55 (Session VII, Canon xii)) If he is also a devout man, those who receive the Sacrament at his hands have the additional benefit of a share in his love and devotion, but that in no way affects the value of the Sacrament itself; whatever his failings, the divine strength is outpoured upon the people.
 Quoting: 33


With us also it is the Master of the Lodge who is responsible for the magnetization of the double square, but the Brn. ought all to help in that work. The object is to charge that space heavily with the highest possible influence, and to erect a wall round it in order that the influence may be kept in place. The part played by the thought-form is much like that of a condenser. It matters not how much steam may be generated, it is useless for work unless it is enclosed and kept under pressure. In this scheme we accumulate and use the force which otherwise would scatter itself freely over the surrounding neighbourhood.
 Quoting: 33

[link to www.anandgholap.net]

now the question may be
thought forms by default are fantasy thus have no access to the field because they are not real
they are formed and sustained by human emotion

thus we appear to have the following conundrum in our temples and churches

the shape of the church/temple enhances field effect

the humans within the structure experience altered state and informational enhancement which they transfer into thought form
the thought forms retain the information provided for them by their creators, the human emotions and over time the thought forms become more and more aware as successive generations of their creators die and new disciples replace the dead ones

so the question is
do humans form thought forms to store information and if that is so
why do humans worship them?
 Quoting: aether


what if we are thoughtforms of our creators?1dunno1damnedchuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


not "are" : "house", "process", participate. Just like the little neuron beings in you brain and heart and muscles as well as the free floating microbiota inhabiting you. They make us but are not us, we make God but are not God: all participate.
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like this! awesome, thanks
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So coming to the same conclusions can take years as politics tends to rule the upper echelons of decision making. Even today these very Birkeland Currents are still being termed as magnetic ropes, even though it has been proven beyond a doubt that they are carrying huge amounts of electrical energy. Change is hard, one must rewrite countless books, change the curriculum at universities, reprint thousands of textbooks, all current experts in specific fields would no longer be experts and need retrained just to teach. All in all a multi-billion dollar expenditure. So don't expect mainstream to admit to anything anytime soon. All changes in cosmology come only after long drawn out battles to unseat those entrenched in power. Sad, but the way it is. Science is far from open minded and is just as political as the politicians[ [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation



there is a method to our madness

One must begin with one, and that one has no particular qualities. Therefore, so long as you have an authority properly centralized it does not really matter what that authority is. In the Pope we have such an authority ready made, and it is the gravest tactical blunder to endeavor to set up an authority opposed to him. Success in doing so means war, and failure anarchy . [link to aethyrea.blogspot.co.uk]
 Quoting: structure


every social structure within every culture is constructed the same way thus the visible alteration of the environment that the central unit of all structures function within is a pre requisite

this has now occurred of
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but we influence our environment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Absolutely, yes. We influence our environment.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


much much less than you think, Jonny.


much less.


this is a double edged sword.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


Depends on the force of one's awareness.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


i am sorry to say (tho not that sorry), that both my research and my experience teach otherwise.

your ideas around "awareness" are, in fact, part of the current misconception and an expression of the greater struggle being worked out.

and that is as much as i will say on this subject: fyi
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I thought I saw a putty cat.lol herdering the herders.
Like they did something wrong. They feared not untill they did. You reackon that's going to happen? Is it possible for the designed program to glitch with fear of what could happen? I think I saw that in future.
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So, first the environment changes, then we change, then the archetypes bleed through with less and less distortion. We Become more of our divine selves through these connections of balanced nesting because the archetypes within the non-material are manifesting into the material with more and more purity.

Hope that helps.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


interesting perspective.

define "environment", please.

in my opinion, we don not *become* our divine selves: we are already divine, as are all 'things'.

no.

we allow the divine to *flow thru* us. The 'pathway' is love and the 'switch' , choice and trust.

and sometimes it hurts like u cannot believe, but other times..... [insert personal transcendence here]

it is a whole body/mind experience: both the pain and the joy.


just sayin'
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So why does one lock itself up in a cage with the key around their own neck?
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So we are shaped by our environment?
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but we influence our environment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Absolutely, yes. We influence our environment.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


much much less than you think, Jonny.


much less.


this is a double edged sword.
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how so?
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I thought I saw a putty cat.lol herdering the herders.
Like they did something wrong. They feared not untill they did. You reackon that's going to happen? Is it possible for the designed program to glitch with fear of what could happen? I think I saw that in future.
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omg, did you watch breaking dawn, lol?
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the time traveler was right about obama being electedhiding
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i am sorry to say (tho not that sorry), that both my research and my experience teach otherwise.

your ideas around "awareness" are, in fact, part of the current misconception and an expression of the greater struggle being worked out.

and that is as much as i will say on this subject: fyi
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9905909


I am not sorry to say that my experience contradicts yours. It is such a pity that you perceive your awareness to be so weak and pitiful.

How can their be 'the greater struggle' if one disregards the possibility that their intent cannot influence the outcome of events?

What is 'the greater struggle' between? The environment vs. the environment?

Please. (rolls eyes) Come in my presence and I'll add to your 'experiences' and 'teachings'. I'll show you firsthand what the force of awareness can do.

Since you have nothing further to say...I guess I have the last word.

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 11/21/2012 02:41 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Question, these structures are what hold the archetypes in their location right? So, if forces change the structure, is they then let loose? or what, if I even have this thinking right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


I wonder if this ties into the stories of like solomon building the temple and then also jesus and his body being a temple and it being destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984635


Reminds me of the 'gems'.

I was quite concerned with the very same...as it were.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Interesting thought I just had that I thought I would share.

In the Spirit Science series I posted some weeks back regarding Thoth and Atlantis.

It is said that which ended the Golden Age was passing through a type of 'void'.

It was pitch black for three days.


The story goes that once the 3 days were up, 'Man' found himself completely senseless and without memory.

However, the Nacals(?) or (Ascended Ones) were able to place the mercaba chariot around their vessel as they were passing through the void, unlike the masses.

So when the nacals reached the 'other side' of the 'void', they still held there previous level of Mind before going into and transitioning through, the 3 day 'void'.

And were then able to pass back into the Collective the history they had all forgotten through much effort and love.


Dunno.

Just a musing.

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


interesting!
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interesting!
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:)


Here it is...




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Tell me how these words make any of you feel.

June 26, 1972

Pope paul says a question recently posed to him by a youth makes him believe youths are close to him. Speaking to a crowd in st peters square before his usual sunday noon blessing, the pontiff said the youth asked "is it true you feel lone-some, holy father?"The pope did not disclose his reply but told the crowd, "yes, you youths are so close to us and the pope loves you. You youths must be good, free and strong".
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interesting!
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:)


Here it is...




hf
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we have been there
this was before "the fall"

okay now we are becoming familiar with life within the canopy the buildings of that era take on a different sensation
they were not constructed to replicate a belief
they were constructed to fulfill known functions of practical application
the overall sensation is that of a complex diverse society on interactive origins
nothing built was an expression of faith
everything built was design of it`s function
the reason for some of the apparent differing designs is attributable to the differing forms of application different origin people applied the same two forces of singular function
collectively the singular effect these diverse applications of forces represented in expression of life within the canopy is one of harmonic complexity born from diversity of common emotive interest
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yes it seems life within the "canopy" was as complex as it is today but the cause of the complexity was know to be the canopy hence there existed no mystery at the root of all complexity
the canopy always was thus all complexity was the result of a single simplicity, the canopy
the cause of cause
hence everyone was content within their infinite complexity of simplicity

i love it
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Here you go Seer .. Look for the orbs and distortion in the corner lol

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