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Seer777
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hey see7,,

this one is simply trying to help in the other thread,,

simplicity towards a complicated paranoid delusion in another mind is paramount,,

as simplicity devoids the paranoid mind of any fear map building responses,,

a mind in paranoid delusion reacts negatively towards many detailed noticed observations,, and will thus react with a self rewarding explanitory agressive empowered response,,

simple love is best with kindness,,

ignore his behavior with empathy,,

your witnessed empathy is already way beyond this understanding,,

and so the inclusion of valid points against him,, within his reasoning is pointless,,

trust you understand,,


much love,,


much love
 Quoting: nobody 28221717


:)

Thank you for you kind words, Nobody.

I appreciate it.

A lot.


Real gratitude is a feeling.

hugs

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Forgive my bold assertion that energy is created from nothing. I understand most would prefer to believe in some magical unseen power source that operates outside the bounds of physics as we know it in some romote corner of the universe currently undetected. This power source then provides the power for the entire universe I guess. All I know is observations show all objects emit EM forces, yet no-one wants these objects to be generating any power, merely sucking it in and regurgitating it, as if somehow they receive exactly the amount needed to remain stable, emit the rest, and draw power from this magical unseen power source that must operate in opposition to all of known physics, since all in our detection range can't be doing it. Yah right. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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no hiding place tounge

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Thread: BREAKING: They're about to change the calendars!

oh

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Here you go Seer .. Look for the orbs and distortion in the corner lol

[link to s136.beta.photobucket.com]
Was meditating very heavily that day
Interesting .......
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


you know fringe i was in there in full screen and it took me a while to become used to "not responsive to me"
haha
thank you very much for sharing yourself

wonderful xoxo
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It still makes me feel different when I watch that Aether LOL I can look in that very corner sometimes and it looks like its breathing .. at the very basic that corner is a tetrahedron lol , guess it all depends on how you look at it . Did you see the picture distort a few times? Didnt notice that till I watched the video for the first time. Was seeing small white orbs in the incense smoke that day.

Happy Thanksgiving btw Aether hf hugs


Happy thanksgiving to All and your family's. May your day be blessed and wishing you All have many things to be thankful for
Spirituality must be lived, not just studied. All the books in the world will NOT help us if we do not live what we learn.

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Here you go Seer .. Look for the orbs and distortion in the corner lol

[link to s136.beta.photobucket.com]
Was meditating very heavily that day
Interesting .......
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


you know fringe i was in there in full screen and it took me a while to become used to "not responsive to me"
haha
thank you very much for sharing yourself

wonderful xoxo
 Quoting: aether


It still makes me feel different when I watch that Aether LOL I can look in that very corner sometimes and it looks like its breathing .. at the very basic that corner is a tetrahedron lol , guess it all depends on how you look at it . Did you see the picture distort a few times? Didnt notice that till I watched the video for the first time. Was seeing small white orbs in the incense smoke that day.

Happy Thanksgiving btw Aether hf hugs


Happy thanksgiving to All and your family's. May your day be blessed and wishing you All have many things to be thankful for
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it was wonderful to be included , as real as when it all arrived

happy thanksgiving hugs
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the glowing designs rang a bell when they were discovered but back then there was no topic to fit them into

now we may possess a topic
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this is the same topic that has immersed Nassim Haramein and we notice nassim has become "suddenly" cleverer in his visuals and explanations of the structure and function of our universe in a manner that match hither to secret discovery of our past few decades
we know he has no access to the "secret" physical discoveries therefore we assume his upgrade in knowing is originating from this topic generally
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Gonna let you in on one of Nassim's secrets... its his Long hair..(samson) Hair is an extension of your central nervous system and is an antennae for picking up transmissions from the unified force field ..;)the longer it is the better the antennae works lmao Not only that he understands the vortex math of the heart as well hf and I am sure his hypothalamus is working great along with his other glands :P
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i agree tounge

he seems to have project avalon utilizing the same topic as one of their main credibility structures for their overview of hierarchical mankind`s initial opposition to eventual acceptance of disclosure
avalons presence does not confirm the topic is real
it confirms the topic possesses interest for motive only known to the interested parties
 Quoting: aether


forgetting avalon and their storyline and utilizing our own inquires, these artifacts are mostly coming up "real"

this was nearly three years ago :

[link to projectavalon.net]
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*smiling*

if you only knew.....


threats of physicality in cyberspace speak of a dull sword. i fear not your meatspace chalenge and should the winds of the flow bring us together: then we shall see, shan't we?
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It wasn't a threat. Should we ever cross paths, it is a given.

That you would interpret it as a threat of physical harm reveals your spiritual intent to me.

I don't try to control or manipulate others for personal gain. I don't physically attack people, unless I am physically attacked first.

However, if you really doubt that the force of one's awareness can alter events, then I can easily demonstrate that ability without any physical contact.

I can simply emotionally provoke you. And even if the provocation didn't alter your mood or your disposition or affect your actions in any way towards me...I would still be proven right, because you would have to admit that your control over your awareness altered the outcome of events as well.

It's such a shame you go around teaching people that the force of their awareness can have no power over their environment.

Pity.
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"Come in my presence and I'll add to your 'experiences' and 'teachings'. I'll show you firsthand what the force of awareness can do."

this is a challenge of physicality and the words u choose do not make me think yer gonna heal me, so..... threat or at least boasting.

maybe u should tell me how to interpret those statements?


Its not about "force" of awareness. Awareness observes. Force of "attention", maybe? focus?

whatever.

your ability to affect my emotional state says nothing about your ability to affect 'events'. and when i said "much less" (not none) i meant real scale events, not some kerfufle between a coupla humans.

i'm not talkin about winning fights here, Jonny.

I'm talkin' about real macroscale 'events' and the forces that move humans to inspiration. forces that make people who they are and guide the big arrows in their life.

over those forces you/me/us have no say. we can attempt to suppress and ignore, but that has only limited efficacy and the price is always high.

i'm tellin' you , bro, the sooner you get over having some kinds super mind and start listening quietly to the truths that rise from deep within your soul, the sooner you will find fulfillment.

and as any artist knows, the ideas come from "somewhere else". from the divine within. your attempt at a puisant mind just gets in the way.


just sayin'
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forgetting avalon and their storyline and utilizing our own inquires, these artifacts are mostly coming up "real"

this was nearly three years ago :

[link to projectavalon.net]
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it possess no information we did not already know
but
it confirms what we know

weird
that somehow feels odd to tell
like it would have been easier if it didn`t
but it does

oh well
probably just the sensation of tonight
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forgetting avalon and their storyline and utilizing our own inquires, these artifacts are mostly coming up "real"

this was nearly three years ago :

[link to projectavalon.net]
 Quoting: aether


it possess no information we did not already know
but
it confirms what we know

weird
that somehow feels odd to tell
like it would have been easier if it didn`t
but it does

oh well
probably just the sensation of tonight
 Quoting: aether


confirms moving groups
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well we have 1 month from today until the calendar runs out
everything has 2013 onwards on it
we know our definition up until 2118 and we know from there what shape all does take
suppose we find out by finding out
as we do
it`s a long runway constructed
but does lift occur along the way
different to what we say
not that we have said very much
in the construction of the runway

weird
sensations
of
expectations
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our universe may appear newtonian to you
of mechanical clockwork that`s dying too
or perhaps the will of an invisible god
who`s next thought possible ends in blood
if none of the above satisfies your knowing
we must be part of something that`s living

spiral on your mind xenus i would say
is a very good way to see a door way
to what imagination may be considering
universe flows via information linking

as we may be starting to detect
knowing the source effects affect
this may be useful in our future
understanding removes conjecture

we appear to have traveled a complete spin
on the thread with it`s information within
the symbols that once filled our sky helped
those below to imagine knowledge yet completed
until the day the signs returned and those below
remembering all they knew understood to follow
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that is how the rhyme
ends within that time
seems no choice but to go
something we seem to know

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Venus in Transition
Nov 22, 2012

..............Every couple of centuries, the two planets are in close enough alignment that Venus crosses the face of the Sun twice in eight years. Between that pair of crossings, there is a gap of 121.5 years, then two transits in eight years, then a gap of 105.5 years, then two transits, then a gap of 121.5 years, and so on. Why this odd time interval?................

................The planet-gods did not revolve in the stately orbits we see today. Instead, they encroached on each other, looming large and then retreating, only to rush together in conflict again. During those encounters, Venus and Earth exchanged gigantic outbursts of electric discharge. In those bolts of interplanetary lightning they formed an electromagnetic bond. It was probably then that the orbital resonance that both planets share came into existence...................
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Forgive my bold assertion that energy is created from nothing. I understand most would prefer to believe in some magical unseen power source that operates outside the bounds of physics as we know it in some romote corner of the universe currently undetected. This power source then provides the power for the entire universe I guess. All I know is observations show all objects emit EM forces, yet no-one wants these objects to be generating any power, merely sucking it in and regurgitating it, as if somehow they receive exactly the amount needed to remain stable, emit the rest, and draw power from this magical unseen power source that must operate in opposition to all of known physics, since all in our detection range can't be doing it. Yah right. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


no hiding place tounge
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Not to get sidetracked again, but it is this very electrical connection [link to www.nasa.gov]
[link to www.newscientist.com]
The same ones as connects earth
[link to science.nasa.gov]
[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
I see it as when the electrical connection breaks, the magnetic field collapses. It is the electric field that reconnects in a circuit and then a brand new magnetic field is generated. In a plasma environment a completely new electric field in a brand new location is just as likely to occur, no restrictions on pathways except as bound by the very magnetic field it caused. As for example when a CME occurs they collapse completely and other current paths come up. [link to upload.wikimedia.org]
It is the confusion of the magnetic field as being able to exist apart from the electric field that then sees this magnetic field as having reconnected.

Question : What do you think causes magnetic fields? I guess that is the real question that first needs answered before any reconnection is considered.
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aether,,

how kind it is too share with others,,

much love,,
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haha
my reason is simple
my natural lifestyle expression is not found in globally traditional occupation pursuits so any and all official breaks from tradition gains benefit for me because it enhances the people i like
well i say that but i have noticed some national holidays are emotionally demanding on people i like
oh well
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the good news is within our secret societies of military/scientific might in our 21st century we have men that recognize the value of listening to women whom possess, on merit, the same degree of authority as men do
and
we are enjoying women administrating within the key department at the top of our pyramid, the department labeled "masters of universe", the cosmology department tounge
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the further good news on this topic is our cosmology dept. by default works closely with our extraterrestrial dept (e.d)

the thinking now suggested for our coming new year onwards is to focus e.d upon the discovery of why and how our common environment (universe) is experienced and observed to behave differently when in the company of "people" we have observed and experienced whom we officially classify as extraterrestrial

the reason for the suggestion of this refocus is prompted by e.d`s independent discovery that the structure (bodies) of extraterrestrials function (live) utilizing the same processes as our own no matter their outer appearance or internal arrangement/design of "organs"
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Jonny, quit sticking your dick in the dir. It proves nothing, unless your planting corn stalks. Youre becoming unbalanced.

Apology AC 9. enjoyed your comments. Just checking us out?
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Becoming?

LOL.

Should I go...take my meds?
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Jonny

If anyone is unable to compartmentalize the stimuli, taking medication to reduced or eliminate the stimuli maybe an alternative. Compartmentalizing can be accomplish by not responding immediately "without thought". Instead review intent of whom you are mirroring and then mirror yourself.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, today is not a day to mirror the ones you love, it is a day to appreciate and share thoughtfully.
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It is important for instruction to convey intent and purpose. It is important to know and understand the reasons why things are said and done. If something resonates with your core incorporate it, if not consider it from all angles and note it for a future reference. Persoanl bias clouds the everythings, and prevent acceptance at the moment. What isn't accepted is sometime just as important as what is accepted, as both define you by the choice.
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Good morning.
hf


I had a most peculiar feeling yesterday, I felt like a compass needle, I was slowly spinning within, then thought on your orientation comments and smiled to myself closed my eyes and lost all body feeling and was just slowly turning around inside me, it Felt like I was upside down inside myself, a lovely feeling.
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Good morning.
hf


I had a most peculiar feeling yesterday, I felt like a compass needle, I was slowly spinning within, then thought on your orientation comments and smiled to myself closed my eyes and lost all body feeling and was just slowly turning around inside me, it Felt like I was upside down inside myself, a lovely feeling.
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good morning

i am happy to confirm it was not your imagination tounge
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hey peanut, we will stick with the topic to explain to see how it works

let`s remove the two craft and their occupants from the equation, we are left with the environment they exist within

the environment (universe) both it`s material dimension and non material dimensions, in their structure collectively forms the singular effect labeled by us, "self aware" (intelligent)

the craft referred to as organic is labeled organic because, no matter what materials are used to construct it, it is structured to mimic the singular effect of it`s environment , self aware (intelligent), hence able to utilize the attributes of it`s environment

the occupant whom constructed the craft did so because they first understood the structure and function of our environment hence their craft is steered by the occupant being in intuitive communication with our self aware environment and their craft, simultaneously

the craft responds to both occupant and our environments collective desires within the natural boundaries of the occupants understanding of our environment
 Quoting: aether


which prompts this:

currently if a person(s) from within our magnetosphere is a passenger(s) in an organic craft, the natural risk assessment process of the craft switches off the self aware 5% of the passenger(s) conscious process
the craft switches it back on again once the passenger(s) leave the craft

this is enforced by the crafts risk assessment process of what we label "human condition"
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hey peanut, we will stick with the topic to explain to see how it works

let`s remove the two craft and their occupants from the equation, we are left with the environment they exist within

the environment (universe) both it`s material dimension and non material dimensions, in their structure collectively forms the singular effect labeled by us, "self aware" (intelligent)

the craft referred to as organic is labeled organic because, no matter what materials are used to construct it, it is structured to mimic the singular effect of it`s environment , self aware (intelligent), hence able to utilize the attributes of it`s environment

the occupant whom constructed the craft did so because they first understood the structure and function of our environment hence their craft is steered by the occupant being in intuitive communication with our self aware environment and their craft, simultaneously

the craft responds to both occupant and our environments collective desires within the natural boundaries of the occupants understanding of our environment
 Quoting: aether


which prompts this:

currently if a person(s) from within our magnetosphere is a passenger(s) in an organic craft, the natural risk assessment process of the craft switches off the self aware 5% of the passenger(s) conscious process
the craft switches it back on again once the passenger(s) leave the craft

this is enforced by the crafts risk assessment process of what we label "human condition"
 Quoting: aether


So, let me see if i understand correctly, the craft employs a fail safe mechanism that restricts the 5% self aware mechanism to be employable only within the proximity of the craft.

I believe that the dynamics of the moving group produces its own craft that enables those with similiar functionalities to perform at a peak level. The dynamic of the group environment can best describe as the deep end of the pool. The swimmer within their own single craft is analogous to the shallow end of the pool. The 5% self awareness still exist but is limited by the amount of water it can provide on its own. I don't believe the group craft has any control over a self awareness function that can be switched on or off. To make another analogy, I would go so far as to suggest that the water is our souls. When one dreams of water it can be taken as a representation of the condition of our soul at that moment.

As far as jonny point yeasterday that the ability to is affect change is conditional to ones ability I see a truth and a danger in that line of thinking. When considering the dynamics of the group's body of water on the whole, it is certainly a possible that the water of the group maybe peed in affecting the whole. If I understand your premise about the craft switching off the 5% self awareness of an occupant as it leaves the craft this would not be of concern. Again if i'm understanding you properly, you are stating that the craft (moving group environment) is incapable of being peed in, so this should not be of concern. The above example, of course is taken to an vulgar extreme as a matter of of discussion and is not meant to imply any malfeasance, but only to open up a discussion of what is certainly a possibility.

I would hope that an attempt to instill fear can be recognize and ignored by the group as a whole. Awareness has always been a keystone to addressing any issue intelligently and intuitively.
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hey peanut, we will stick with the topic to explain to see how it works

let`s remove the two craft and their occupants from the equation, we are left with the environment they exist within

the environment (universe) both it`s material dimension and non material dimensions, in their structure collectively forms the singular effect labeled by us, "self aware" (intelligent)

the craft referred to as organic is labeled organic because, no matter what materials are used to construct it, it is structured to mimic the singular effect of it`s environment , self aware (intelligent), hence able to utilize the attributes of it`s environment

the occupant whom constructed the craft did so because they first understood the structure and function of our environment hence their craft is steered by the occupant being in intuitive communication with our self aware environment and their craft, simultaneously

the craft responds to both occupant and our environments collective desires within the natural boundaries of the occupants understanding of our environment
 Quoting: aether


which prompts this:

currently if a person(s) from within our magnetosphere is a passenger(s) in an organic craft, the natural risk assessment process of the craft switches off the self aware 5% of the passenger(s) conscious process
the craft switches it back on again once the passenger(s) leave the craft

this is enforced by the crafts risk assessment process of what we label "human condition"
 Quoting: aether


So, let me see if i understand correctly, the craft employs a fail safe mechanism that restricts the 5% self aware mechanism to be employable only within the proximity of the craft.

I believe that the dynamics of the moving group produces its own craft that enables those with similiar functionalities to perform at a peak level. The dynamic of the group environment can best describe as the deep end of the pool. The swimmer within their own single craft is analogous to the shallow end of the pool. The 5% self awareness still exist but is limited by the amount of water it can provide on its own. I don't believe the group craft has any control over a self awareness function that can be switched on or off. To make another analogy, I would go so far as to suggest that the water is our souls. When one dreams of water it can be taken as a representation of the condition of our soul at that moment.

As far as jonny point yeasterday that the ability to is affect change is conditional to ones ability I see a truth and a danger in that line of thinking. When considering the dynamics of the group's body of water on the whole, it is certainly a possible that the water of the group maybe peed in affecting the whole. If I understand your premise about the craft switching off the 5% self awareness of an occupant as it leaves the craft this would not be of concern. Again if i'm understanding you properly, you are stating that the craft (moving group environment) is incapable of being peed in, so this should not be of concern. The above example, of course is taken to an vulgar extreme as a matter of of discussion and is not meant to imply any malfeasance, but only to open up a discussion of what is certainly a possibility.

I would hope that an attempt to instill fear can be recognize and ignored by the group as a whole. Awareness has always been a keystone to addressing any issue intelligently and intuitively.
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remember the craft replicates what we label "death", by default
people from outside of our magnetosphere whom are able to construct craft that replicate our environment *universe" possess a different knowing of our label death and consequently many other things we label also

organic craft can only be constructed one way , scale invariant (to common factor)
the common factor (self awareness) of our universe, it`s singular effect (motive)
as we have told the motive suggested is
the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally
all life within our universe is forced to reach agreement with our environment to utilize our non material dimensions for physical travel
be it via organic craft or death
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Right now, the in situ information in the above 2nd paper has been supportive with what you are putting forth because the Sun is NOT in the LIC proper nor in the G-Cloud but in the transition region between the two. One would think such a region to perhaps be rather dull but with interactive “shocks”, ionization, double-layers etc … I think maybe not.

I could be wrong but I at least need to see if anything filamentary, of higher density, etc etc has been observed there. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: Theosophy

 Quoting: aether


I like that the mainstream found that the "scattering screens" of enhanced electron density "lie close to the edges of several of our dynamical clouds". The fact that they are so clearly mapping out Birkeland current filaments and double layers without a model to guide them is impressive. If you or I showed these correlations, we'd be accused of interpreting the data to fit our EU model.
Now remember where Sirius sits in this picture: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Remember that we were able to show that only if Sirius and the sun were spiraling along the same axis, would we be able to explain the relationship between Sirius' proper motion and earth's rate of precession. (The work of the Sirius Research Institute is important here). So we have redundancy, with the motion of local clouds giving us the same axis for the Birkeland current, as we were able to derive from looking at star motions alone.
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You know; it actually is pretty amazing that radio scintillations were found and noted. But I guess the goal was simply to take advantage of as many sight lines as were possible in order to distinguish enough differentiations to establish bulk flows. As a result there exist some good (generally) defined cloud data and a little more than just a hint that there is “turbulence” at their interacting “edges”. Hence, the door has been opened to further pursue resolution of those interacting boundaries close to home.

I think you bring up another important point when you say that “… they are so clearly mapping out Birkeland current filaments and double layers without a model to guide them". So called “turbulence theory” in relation to the formation of filaments has never been an adequate solution, they know this, but they keep using it:
The prevalence of filaments in the ISM has never been adequately explained by turbulence theory … Some ISM filaments are not from turbulence but are the edges of expanding shells. [link to ned.ipac.caltech.edu]
How does one characterize that? They actually do have a model to “guide” them (“turbulence theory”) but it’s known to be inadequate so another incorrect 'model' forms their foundation.
Until H observations of the LIC and/or G-Cloud are is done for local region we won’t be seeing any resolutions of the filaments (images). It is nice to be aware though that the radio scintillations are pointing directly at them. At this point it appears that the research has revealed a gap in our relation to the local interstellar medium and most all work I’ve pursued focuses primarily on “turbulence theory” related musings. Suffice to say that IBEX and Ulysses have provided some assistance I don’t think anything is going to amount the scope that H observations might provide.
[link to www.usm.lmu.de]
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remember the craft replicates what we label "death", by default
people from outside of our magnetosphere whom are able to construct craft that replicate our environment *universe" possess a different knowing of our label death and consequently many other things we label also

organic craft can only be constructed one way , scale invariant (to common factor)
the common factor (self awareness) of our universe, it`s singular effect (motive)
as we have told the motive suggested is
the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally
all life within our universe is forced to reach agreement with our environment to utilize our non material dimensions for physical travel
be it via organic craft or death


Isn't death both an external and internal consideration?
I agree that all things run a course and face an end. What can be constued by your statemnt above, however, is that death is a motive. Although i donot discount that possibility i view the craft as a purpose and not an end. As such, purpose is a malleable as any other construct and is vunerable to corruption, both materially and non materially.
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When one dreams of water it can be taken as a representation of the condition of our soul at that moment.

As far as jonny point yeasterday that the ability to is affect change is conditional to ones ability I see a truth and a danger in that line of thinking. When considering the dynamics of the group's body of water on the whole, it is certainly a possible that the water of the group maybe peed in affecting the whole. If I understand your premise about the craft switching off the 5% self awareness of an occupant as it leaves the craft this would not be of concern. Again if i'm understanding you properly, you are stating that the craft (moving group environment) is incapable of being peed in, so this should not be of concern. The above example, of course is taken to an vulgar extreme as a matter of of discussion and is not meant to imply any malfeasance, but only to open up a discussion of what is certainly a possibility.

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what is meant by "affect change"?

why do we wish this?

who here has had any real success in changing just one human in any real way?

who here has been changed by another in a real way? did "they" change you, or did you decide to change? can you tell the diference? how?


i submit that the *only* 'thing' we are capable of changing is ourselves, and even that is tenuous at best: largely a fail. people stay who they are by and large.

i further submit that the way to affect external change is to *be* the change and let others, by observation, be moved/inspired by the change they see in you.

thru fear and pressure we can let others modify our behavior, but it is surface level at best: only our choices can affect who we are and only inspiration truly moves us. others.

we can choose to be a part of the wave or not. that is the sole extent of our ability to interact with the wave.


to choose.
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remember the craft replicates what we label "death", by default
people from outside of our magnetosphere whom are able to construct craft that replicate our environment *universe" possess a different knowing of our label death and consequently many other things we label also

organic craft can only be constructed one way , scale invariant (to common factor)
the common factor (self awareness) of our universe, it`s singular effect (motive)
as we have told the motive suggested is
the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally
all life within our universe is forced to reach agreement with our environment to utilize our non material dimensions for physical travel
be it via organic craft or death


Isn't death both an external and internal consideration?
I agree that all things run a course and face an end. What can be constued by your statemnt above, however, is that death is a motive. Although i donot discount that possibility i view the craft as a purpose and not an end. As such, purpose is a malleable as any other construct and is vunerable to corruption, both materially and non materially.
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in my opinion, Terrence Macenna's statement, "life must be a preparation for the transition to another dimension", is incorrect.

but that his statement, "nothing is lost", *is* correct.

in my opinion, death is the end of the active (dynamic" phase of our existance. the changing nature of the field that is our mind becomes static at death: writtin in hard code and help in the field of the mind that we exist within. A 'memory' to be accessed and made part (or not a part) of larger memory structures.

a single human is a processor and temporary store of data. We are born with 'randomly' arranged (but inactive) field windings (our bodies), a blank slate, a tabula rosa. As soon as we leave or mother's field (on the way out, in fact), we begin to acquire an immense and complex ecosystem of microbial life (without which we cannot function). this life 'activates' the windings and the newly emerged human begins to process data, learn, and make choice.
throughout our dynamic phase we continue to process data, make choices, and act (sometimes) on those choices: we craft our souls by the choices, actions, and interactions we enguage in.
when the field windings cease to function our 'processing' ends and the soul we have crafted becomes a 'snapshot' that is incorporated into the mind of God and arranged within Gods mind according to gods Judgement.

nothing is lost.

temporary processor: eternal memory.


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