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hi
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hi there SS , trusting your day is well and fruitful so far :)
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Yes. I fell VERY...comfortable.

My problem, is I swing a lot. Last night I was thinking too much while driving, and I got myself worked up and into a mood chasing all the trails through my mind.

Today, I feel, like Brazil said, very light.
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i remember you starting the engine when it was stationary tounge
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Well, not 'stationary'.


:)


I like to think of it a bit like attempting to 'push-start' a train. The first pushes being the most taxing. As the engine begins to gain momentum the resistance become a little less difficult. Up until that is, that an adequate speed is reached, to 'pop' the clutch and get this thing moving on its own.

tounge


Choo Choo.

Full steam ahead ------------>

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


wow

spot on
now you tell

that explains what happened when i awoke today

it was a pleasantly "busy" sleep which i woke up from then fell back to into again some time in the night
but
upon awakening this morning "something" which felt like "everything" said
new life for you starting today
and the new was a sensation i adored
now
what you have just told seer matched precisely in feeling what "everything" said to me this morning cheer
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no more ctrl+alt+del to deteimroiq3j412


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hi
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Hi there SS , trusting your day is well and fruitful so far :)
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Yes. I fell VERY...comfortable.

My problem, is I swing a lot. Last night I was thinking too much while driving, and I got myself worked up and into a mood chasing all the trails through my mind.

Today, I feel, like Brazil said, very light.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Understand that one ... I have found this one particular song that strikes some very deep chords inside and have been dancing and playing it almost not stop lately. I feel immersed in the mist of a whirlpool that is singing at the same time.

Been thinking about some of my Native American ancestors as well .

My great grandmother on my mothers side was a choctaw tribal princess And my grandmother on my dad's side was Cherokee/Irish

feeling as if I need to find a mound to go visit .
Spirituality must be lived, not just studied. All the books in the world will NOT help us if we do not live what we learn.

"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

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i remember you starting the engine when it was stationary tounge
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Well, not 'stationary'.


:)


I like to think of it a bit like attempting to 'push-start' a train. The first pushes being the most taxing. As the engine begins to gain momentum the resistance become a little less difficult. Up until that is, that an adequate speed is reached, to 'pop' the clutch and get this thing moving on its own.

tounge


Choo Choo.

Full steam ahead ------------>

hf
 Quoting: Seer777


wow

spot on
now you tell

that explains what happened when i awoke today

it was a pleasantly "busy" sleep which i woke up from then fell back to into again some time in the night
but
upon awakening this morning "something" which felt like "everything" said
new life for you starting today
and the new was a sensation i adored
now
what you have just told seer matched precisely in feeling what "everything" said to me this morning cheer
 Quoting: aether


grouphug
 Quoting: Seer777


haha
i have just been looking for that /\ and could not
lucky one of us knows what they are doing
and luckily on this topic
one is enough tounge

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The rain has finally stopped...

The sky is blue, and rays of glorious sunshine are streaming through my windows.


What a gift.

It's the little things.

tounge




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hi
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hi there SS , trusting your day is well and fruitful so far :)
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Yes. I fell VERY...comfortable.

My problem, is I swing a lot. Last night I was thinking too much while driving, and I got myself worked up and into a mood chasing all the trails through my mind.

Today, I feel, like Brazil said, very light.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Understand that one ... I have found this one particular song that strikes some very deep chords inside and have been dancing and playing it almost not stop lately. I feel immersed in the mist of a whirlpool that is singing at the same time.

Been thinking about some of my Native American ancestors as well .

My great grandmother on my mothers side was a choctaw tribal princess And my grandmother on my dad's side was Cherokee/Irish

feeling as if I need to find a mound to go visit .

 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


That sounds very nice.

As to driving, normally I turn up the music VERY loud, and I can immerse myself in it so much I literally do not think about anything.
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no more ctrl+alt+del to deteimroiq3j412


wtf
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That sounds very nice.

As to driving, normally I turn up the music VERY loud, and I can immerse myself in it so much I literally do not think about anything.
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I can crawl inside and see and ride and vibrate to certain music while meditating ...
Some music now days just hurts to listen to and makes my energy all calywhampus so I stay away from that kind lol

I will turn mine up too lmao
Spirituality must be lived, not just studied. All the books in the world will NOT help us if we do not live what we learn.

"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

Love, Faith, and Hope to All hugs

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That sounds very nice.

As to driving, normally I turn up the music VERY loud, and I can immerse myself in it so much I literally do not think about anything.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I can crawl inside and see and ride and vibrate to certain music while meditating ...
Some music now days just hurts to listen to and makes my energy all calywhampus so I stay away from that kind lol

I will turn mine up too lmao
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Headphones for me.

I use to often suggest to people to meditate while utilizing 'Binaural beats' to begin to learn to recognize the 'vibrations'.

As a jumping off point IOW.



I am certain many who frequent this thread are far beyond being able to just sense the vibrations.

:)
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Headphones for me.

I use to often suggest to people to meditate while utilizing 'Binaural beats' to begin to learn to recognize the 'vibrations'.

As a jumping off point IOW.



I am certain many who frequent this thread are far beyond being able to just sense the vibrations.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I use those also Seer , I started off listening to Hemi-sync tapes from the Monroe institute , binaural beat and listen now to gamma and isochronic tones, solfeggio in there also depends on the mood .
Spirituality must be lived, not just studied. All the books in the world will NOT help us if we do not live what we learn.

"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

Love, Faith, and Hope to All hugs

createOR
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:pandora:



Choo Choo...

lol.


tounge
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ah, twas pandora, which led me to pan, which me lead to:


Concerning the Holy Three-in-Naught.
Nuit, Hadit, Ra-Hoor-Khuit, are only to be under-
stood by the Master of the Temple.
They are above The Abyss, and contain all con-
tradiction in themselves.
Below them is a seeming duality of Chaos and
Babalon; these are called Father and Mother, but
it is not so. They are called Brother and Sister,
but it is not so. They are called Husband and
Wife, but it is not so.
The reflection of All is Pan: the Night of Pan is the
Annihilation of the All.
Cast down through The Abyss is the Light, the Rosy
Cross, the rapture of Union that destroys, that is
The Way. The Rosy Cross is the Ambassador of Pan.
How infinite is the distance form This to That! Yet
All is Here and Now. Nor is there any there or Then;
for all that is, what is it but a manifestation, that is,
a part, that is, a falsehood, of THAT which is not?
Yet THAT which is not neither is nor is not That
which is!
Identity is perfect; therefore the w of Identity is
but a lie. For there is no subject, and there is no
predicate; nor is there the contradictory of either
of these things.
Holy, Holy, Holy are these Truths that I utter,
knowing them to be but falsehoods, broken mirrors,
troubled waters; hide me, O our Lady, in Thy
Womb! for I may not endure the rapture.
In this utterance of falsehood upon falsehood, whose
contradictories are also false, it seems as if That
which I uttered not were true.
Blessed, unutterably blessed, is this last of the
illusions; let me play the man, and thrust it from
me! Amen.
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no more ctrl+alt+del to deteimroiq3j412


wtf
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scratching
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Nvm, sometimes I start writing then bash my hand randomly on the keyboard to get some crazy msg to myself and perhaps even give one to others. tounge
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ah, twas pandora, which led me to pan, which me lead to:


Concerning the Holy Three-in-Naught.
Nuit, Hadit, Ra-Hoor-Khuit, are only to be under-
stood by the Master of the Temple.
They are above The Abyss, and contain all con-
tradiction in themselves.
Below them is a seeming duality of Chaos and
Babalon; these are called Father and Mother, but
it is not so. They are called Brother and Sister,
but it is not so. They are called Husband and
Wife, but it is not so.
The reflection of All is Pan: the Night of Pan is the
Annihilation of the All.
Cast down through The Abyss is the Light, the Rosy
Cross, the rapture of Union that destroys, that is
The Way. The Rosy Cross is the Ambassador of Pan.
How infinite is the distance form This to That! Yet
All is Here and Now. Nor is there any there or Then;
for all that is, what is it but a manifestation, that is,
a part, that is, a falsehood, of THAT which is not?
Yet THAT which is not neither is nor is not That
which is!
Identity is perfect; therefore the w of Identity is
but a lie. For there is no subject, and there is no
predicate; nor is there the contradictory of either
of these things.
Holy, Holy, Holy are these Truths that I utter,
knowing them to be but falsehoods, broken mirrors,
troubled waters; hide me, O our Lady, in Thy
Womb! for I may not endure the rapture.
In this utterance of falsehood upon falsehood, whose
contradictories are also false, it seems as if That
which I uttered not were true.
Blessed, unutterably blessed, is this last of the
illusions; let me play the man, and thrust it from
me! Amen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


Lovely.

:)



Pandora led me to Pan as well.

For a time, some time ago...



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Sabbatei Zevi: Mystical Messiah and the Centrality of Messianism

For Scholem Jewish messianism and Sabbateanism are intimately connected. This is not because Sabbateanism is the only form of Jewish messianism but because Sabbateanism represents, for him, the quintessence of the tension between tradition and its self-destruction that lies at the root of all forms of Jewish messianism reaching back to the Hebrew Bible. This idea came to Scholem very early in his career, decades before he even began serious work on his magisterial Sabbatai Zevi: Mystical Messiah. [link to plato.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: observation


That is, for Scholem, Sabbateanism is such an important topic precisely because it re-directs Jewish history by exposing the underside of Jewish mysticism, Judaism's “counter-history,” in a way that creates the conditions for Jewish modernity, including Zionism. In this sense, Sabbateanism is the lynchpin to Scholem's entire intellectual project. [link to plato.stanford.edu]
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. Scholem's general approach is that while Kabbala, like all intellectual constructs, reacts to history, it is the esoteric trends that are often the most potent forces needed to unleash innovation, which is often deemed heretical (at least at the outset). Thus the roots of Sabbateanism were not the impoverished or oppressed state of the Jews (although these factors may have played a role) but the dominance of Lurianic Kabbala born in mid-16th century Safed. [link to plato.stanford.edu]
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The historiographical dimension of Scholem's reconstruction of Judaism is perhaps his most contested thesis. He offers a kind of Hegelian position. In brief it unfolds as follows: The biblical period is where Judaism struggles to free itself of pure myth and, while partially successful, never quite severs itself from the mythic world of its surroundings. This period is followed by the rabbinic period of late antiquity introducing the institutional period of the Jewish religion. The rabbis suppressed myth, magic, and cult in favor of a normalized legal system that rationalized biblical mythic motifs and presented a God who, while not impersonal, was more distant from human experience than in the biblical period which was centered on prophecy. The Jewish Middle Ages began with Judaism's absorption of Hellenistic/rational culture and produced a God even more distant than the rabbinic God. Moreover, in this period while law remained obligatory it was challenged by reason as the sine qua non of the religious life. Myth moves from a sate of suppression to being outright rejected. It is here, Scholem posits, that Kabbala enters. In part a reaction against medieval rationalism (curiously not unlike Scholem's rejection of the Enlightenment rationalism of the Science of Judaism) Kabbala emerges in part to revive the biblical myth and also offer myths of its own born from a reification of rabbinic Midrash into a mystical cosmology. [link to plato.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: observation

[link to plato.stanford.edu]

so far he confirms what we know

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At least it is good to know that Nobody/WOS is most likely just software and not a real human being.
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you find out by finding out thumbs
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Always. The only way to discover truth, is to experience it yourself.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Until realization prompts you to become: not you. As that is what realization, like dreaming, is; Little slivers of self immolation in constant process.

As is the wave to the emanating point. An egress with a mind to congress.
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feels like something clever happened
between 1160-1235 something arose that fitted the past that affects today
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Around 1119, the French knight Hugues de Payens approached King Baldwin II of Jerusalem with the proposal of creating a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims
 Quoting: observation
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At least it is good to know that Nobody/WOS is most likely just software and not a real human being.
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you find out by finding out thumbs
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Always. The only way to discover truth, is to experience it yourself.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Until realization prompts you to become: not you. As that is what realization, like dreaming, is; Little slivers of self immolation in constant process.

As is the wave to the emanating point. An egress with a mind to congress.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


For some reason, I have thought about that A LOT lately. Been thinking about that for about the last 2 weeks, everyday. 1dunno1
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feels like something clever happened
between 1160-1235 something arose that fitted the past that affects today
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Around 1119, the French knight Hugues de Payens approached King Baldwin II of Jerusalem with the proposal of creating a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


Templars. Where does Priory of Sion come in?

Oh, Payens approached the king after the Priory already had the pre-Templars 'working'.
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feels like something clever happened
between 1160-1235 something arose that fitted the past that affects today
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Around 1119, the French knight Hugues de Payens approached King Baldwin II of Jerusalem with the proposal of creating a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


THE origins of Freemasonry are lost in the mists of antiquity. Last century there were many who thought that it could be traced no further back than the mediaeval guilds of operative masons, though some regarded these in turn as relics of the Roman Collegia. There may still be some who know no better than that, but all students of the Ancient Mysteries who are also Freemasons are aware that it is along that line that we find our true philosophical ancestry; for there is much in our ceremonies and teachings which could have had no significance for the mere operative mason, though when examined by the light of the knowledge received in the Mysteries it is seen to be pregnant with meaning. Many Masonic writers claim various degrees of antiquity for the Craft, some assigning its foundation to King Solomon, and one at least boldly stating that its wisdom is all that now remains of the divine knowledge which Adam possessed before his fall. There is, however, plenty of evidence less mythical than that, and to that evidence I happen to be able to contribute a fragment of personal experience of a rather unusual kind.

2. By devoting some years to the effort and many more years to practice, I have been able to develop certain psychic faculties of the kind mentioned in the Foreword, which, among other things, enable me to remember the previous existences through which I have passed. The idea of pre-existence may be new to some of my readers.* (*Those who wish to learn more about this most fasci­nating subject should read Reincarnation, by the V .·.·. Ills .·.·. Bro .·. A. Besant, and the chapter on Reincarnation in my Textbook of Theosophy.) I do not propose now to advance arguments in its favour, though they exist in abundance, but simply to state that for me, as for many others, it is a fact of personal experience. The only one of those previous lives of mine with which we are here concerned was lived some four thousand years before Christ in the country which we now call Egypt.

3. When I was initiated into Freemasonry in this life, my first sight of the Lodge was a great and pleasant surprise, for I found that I was perfectly familiar with all its arrangements, and that they were identical with those which I had known six thousand years ago in the Mysteries of Egypt. I am quite aware that this is a startling statement; I can only say that it is literally true. No mistake is possible; coincidence will not serve as an explan­ation. The placing of the three chief officers is unusual; the symbols are significant and distinctive, and their combination is peculiar; yet they all belonged to ancient Egypt, and I knew them well there.
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you find out by finding out thumbs
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Always. The only way to discover truth, is to experience it yourself.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Until realization prompts you to become: not you. As that is what realization, like dreaming, is; Little slivers of self immolation in constant process.

As is the wave to the emanating point. An egress with a mind to congress.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


For some reason, I have thought about that A LOT lately. Been thinking about that for about the last 2 weeks, everyday. 1dunno1
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Maybe you see why I wrote letters to myself as a child to a man.

The nature of the cascade of potential leaves us inaccessible to self. But the necessity of feedback (relational memory) requires we create totems of ourselves to project forth.

Likely why a systemic shock is crucial.
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we don`t know yet tounge

this is arising from this

lol

Did you SEE it?


Tower of Babel...

InDeeD.


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oh
clever you wave

whoa

now i do

wow

we will let that settle
is the feeling

amazed
wonderfully amazed hugs
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hovering over looking to see what we may see
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Masonry?

That is working with stone correct?




Gobeki Tepe is reported to be twice as old as the pyramids...

During the 'Copper Age'.




Who built Gobekli Tepe?


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feels like something clever happened
between 1160-1235 something arose that fitted the past that affects today
 Quoting: aether


Around 1119, the French knight Hugues de Payens approached King Baldwin II of Jerusalem with the proposal of creating a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


Templars. Where does Priory of Sion come in?

Oh, Payens approached the king after the Priory already had the pre-Templars 'working'.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Now imagine they have cloistered their best to solely transmit the functional datum of their belief and wee have the 144 and their harsh clicks of accessible alien mind.
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Masonry?

That is working with stone correct?




Gobeki Tepe is reported to be twice as old as the pyramids...

During the 'Copper Age'.




Who built Gobekli Tepe?


:)
 Quoting: Seer777


This is where they theoretically believe the Galagoths traversed the oceans along with what are Egyptians and Semites to trade with the indigenes of North America.

As the copper to fuel the bronze age has always pointed back to the new world. It also explains the locquaciousness of my Keltoi forebears.
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This is where they theoretically believe the Galagoths traversed the oceans along with what are Egyptians and Semites to trade with the indigenes of North America.

As the copper to fuel the bronze age has always pointed back to the new world. It also explains the locquaciousness of my Keltoi forebears.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


tounge



By what method did they who seeded the planet travel?

RainbowSeed

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Masonry?

That is working with stone correct?




Gobeki Tepe is reported to be twice as old as the pyramids...

During the 'Copper Age'.




Who built Gobekli Tepe?


:)
 Quoting: Seer777


as in communicates with/through

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This is where they theoretically believe the Galagoths traversed the oceans along with what are Egyptians and Semites to trade with the indigenes of North America.

As the copper to fuel the bronze age has always pointed back to the new world. It also explains the locquaciousness of my Keltoi forebears.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


tounge



By what method did they who seeded the planet travel?

:RainbowSeed:

:)
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Surfboards of course.

Have you ever read the supposed stories of the Aleuts?

They propelled themselves from Alaska to the Hawaiian Islands in hours by 'supposedly' riding super waves.

As technology is an efficiency expedited and encapsulated in knowledge; that could be construed as pretty high tech. ;)
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Surfboards of course.


Have you ever read the supposed stories of the Aleuts?

They propelled themselves from Alaska to the Hawaiian Islands in hours by 'supposedly' riding super waves.

As technology is an efficiency expedited and encapsulated in knowledge; that could be construed as pretty high tech. ;)
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lol

I think I posted one of those earlier.



What is going on in this picture?

scratching


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Re: X Marks the Spot
Origins of the Kabbala begins with an analysis of the Book Bahir (taken largely from his doctoral thesis) a work Scholem claims emerges from a circle of mystics led by the enigmatic Isaac the Blind in Provence although he suggests some strata of this enigmatic work may originate in some unknown Jewish Gnostic groups. For Scholem, the Bahir is the first book of Kabbala [link to plato.stanford.edu]
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Isaac the Blind, 1160-1235, the great Kabbalist rabbi of Provence [link to plato.stanford.edu]
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Biot - the Counts of Provence gave Biot to the Templars in 1209. [link to plato.stanford.edu]
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i wonder tounge

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