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What was much more important was to control the path of the Sun, as a sign that the current creation of the world was being maintained by the shamans, by the continued use of the Tzolkin calendar, and by the use of the proper location of ceremonial centers. In a fashion typical of well-documented later Mesoamerican philosophical thinking, mankind was responsible for this, and the ceremonial sites implemented the control over the current creation. This is so entirely different from the attitudes toward the Gods which developed in the Mediterranean region, as to be nearly incomprehensible to westerner [link to saturniancosmology.org]
 Quoting: observation

tounge
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just a note
the first time we got a "lock" onto the mayan calendar was 2007 and it translated:

"all become shaman"
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hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


exactly
no exclusions
whatever shaman is to mayan is what they foretell becomes of humanity via process as in:
it came up "all become shaman over linear time noticeable/visible from 12. 21. 2012"
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now we know

we return to mastery of our own destiny in cooperation with our environment (universe)

neeto navigation tounge

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and
plato is telling he told us how it was pre babel
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and
plato is telling he told us how it was pre babel
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. Why, because only the most divine things of all remain ever unchanged and the same, and body is not included in this class. Heaven and the universe, as we have termed them, although they have been endowed by the Creator with many glories, partake of a bodily nature, and therefore cannot be entirely free from perturbation. But their motion is, as far as possible, single and in the same place, and of the same kind; and is therefore only subject to a reversal, which is the least alteration possible. For the lord of all moving things is alone able to move of himself; and to think that he moves them at one time in one direction and at another time in another is blasphemy. Hence we must not say that the world is either self-moved always, or all made to go round by God in two opposite courses; or that two Gods, having opposite purposes, make it move round. But as I have already said (and this is the only remaining alternative) the world is guided at one time by an external power which is divine and receives fresh life and immortality from the renewing hand of the Creator, and again, when let go, moves spontaneously, being set free at such a time as to have, during infinite cycles of years, a reverse movement: this is due to its perfect balance, to its vast size, and to the fact that it turns on the smallest pivot.

Hence there necessarily occurs a great destruction of them, which extends also to-the life of man; few survivors of the race are left, and those who remain become the subjects of several novel and remarkable phenomena, and of one in particular, which takes place at the time when the transition is made to the cycle opposite to that in which we are now living.

The life of all animals first came to a standstill, and the mortal nature ceased to be or look older, and was then reversed and grew young and delicate; the white locks of the aged darkened again, and the cheeks the bearded man became smooth, and recovered their former bloom; the bodies of youths in their prime grew softer and smaller, continually by day and night returning and becoming assimilated to the nature of a newly-born child in mind as well as body; in the succeeding stage they wasted away and wholly disappeared. And the bodies of those who died by violence at that time quickly passed through the like changes, and in a few days were no more seen.

It is evident, Socrates, that there was no such thing in the then order of nature as the procreation of animals from one another; the earth-born race, of which we hear in story, was the one which existed in those days-they rose again from the ground; and of this tradition, which is now-a-days often unduly discredited, our ancestors, who were nearest in point of time to the end of the last period and came into being at the beginning of this, are to us the heralds. And mark how consistent the sequel of the tale is; after the return of age to youth, follows the return of the dead, who are lying in the earth, to life; simultaneously with the reversal of the world the wheel of their generation has been turned back, and they are put together and rise and live in the opposite order, unless God has carried any of them away to some other lot. According to this tradition they of necessity sprang from the earth and have the name of earth-born, and so the above legend clings to them.
 Quoting: Plato

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that seems to be process he is telling
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oh

here it is

the difference between saturn (cronus) and sol (zeus) or jupiter

looks like jupiter which means there is an era before this one, and after saturn, the one plato is remembering

The Sun always looked the same; the planetary Gods trailed feathers, as Venus did, or donned a tri-lobed headdress and took a body shape of an opened crocodile jaw, as Jupiter did, cruised close to Earth in an attempt to destroy creation, as Mars did, or brought flowers to Earth, as Mercury did -- all experienced in the 8th and 7th century BC [link to saturniancosmology.org]
 Quoting: observation


see much work to be done on sequencing our aeons

anyway life under one of their domains was like this:

I see that you enter into my meaning;-no, that blessed and spontaneous life does not belong to the present cycle of the world, but to the previous one, in which God superintended the whole revolution of the universe; and the several parts the universe were distributed under the rule. certain inferior deities, as is the way in some places still There were demigods, who were the shepherds of the various species and herds of animals, and each one was in all respects sufficient for those of whom he was the shepherd; neither was there any violence, or devouring of one another or war or quarrel among them; and I might tell of ten thousand other blessings, which belonged to that dispensation. The reason why the life of man was, as tradition says, spontaneous, is as follows: In those days God himself was their shepherd, and ruled over them, just as man, over them, who is by comparison a divine being, still rules over the lower animals. Under him there were no forms of government or separate possession of women and children; for all men rose again from the earth, having no memory, of the past. And although they had nothing of this sort, the earth gave them fruits in abundance, which grew on trees and shrubs unbidden, and were not planted by the hand of man. And they dwelt naked, and mostly in the open air, for the temperature of their seasons, was mild; and they had no beds, but lay on Soft couches of grass, which grew plentifully out of: the earth. Such was the life of man in the days of Cronos, Socrates; the character of our present life which is said to be under Zeus, you know from your own experience. Can you, and will you, determine which of them you deem the happier?
 Quoting: Plato


can we say demi gods is shaman

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demi gods is Daemon is shaman personality

Daemons are good or benevolent nature spirits, beings of the same nature as both mortals and gods, similar to ghosts, chthonic heroes, spirit guides, forces of nature or the gods themselves (see Plato's Symposium). Walter Burkert suggests that unlike the Judeo-Christian use of demon in a strictly malignant sense, “[a] general belief in spirits is not expressed by the term daimon until the 5th century when a doctor asserts that neurotic women and girls can be driven to suicide by imaginary apparitions, ‘evil daimones’.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

because in that era all those (people) whom were not shaman personality experienced glimpses of the above in shamans company

nice tounge

plato you are right

you have told us thumbs
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On July 14th Jupiter released a return lightning bolt at the Sun. This was seen worldwide.

The series of changes in 685 BC was the cause of extensive confusion. The problem would be immaterial from our perspective, but was of the greatest theological concern to Mesoamerica. The exact date that the previous creation had ended needed to be determined. The possibilities included July 9th, when Jupiter first flared up, understood as rising from death, July 14th, when a plasmoid was released from Jupiter, understood as a decision by Jupiter to stop Mars from further interference with Earth, and July 25th, when the initial plasmoid landed at the Sun (although assumed to have been destined for Mars), which was seen as an extension of the current creation -- rather than an end of one creation and the start of a new creation.
 Quoting: observation


july 25
my birthday tounge
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Recovering the Lost World,
A Saturnian Cosmology -- Jno Cook
Chapter 32: Olmec Site Alignments.
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Happy Birthday.
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i just noticed from your happy birthday (thank you) that i am a 7 (2+5) on a 7 (july)

haha

thank you again rockon
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From last year Aether and Happy birthday to you also :)
hugs:

anim face

solar face

Look into Jakob Lorber's writings on the planets also


here is his book on Saturn

[link to www.jakoblorberbooks.com]


and just for fun ~~~~

Organic frog tries to eat digital ants

[link to vimeo.com]

Makes you think chuckle

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In this video you will find....

A) The strangest Coronal Mass Ejection ever. If it's even that, who knows what it is, maybe you can tell me.

B) NASA caught red handed doctoring the Lasco3 footage from the 3rd-4th, cleaning out the darkness, then making a BIG MISTAKE when the put the footage back up. I was lucky enough to download the footage they yanked right before they did it...combined with their new footage. They're busted!

Enjoy!

THOR
 Quoting: NewThor 12990389


Thread: NASA caught red handed doctoring Sun cameras and the weirdest CME ever!

shaping up for 6 ?
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From last year Aether and Happy birthday to you also :)
hugs:

anim face

solar face

Look into Jakob Lorber's writings on the planets also


here is his book on Saturn

[link to www.jakoblorberbooks.com]


and just for fun ~~~~

Organic frog tries to eat digital ants

[link to vimeo.com]

Makes you think chuckle
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good morning

while i read you link i have to say
we discovered shaman know our suns way chorus
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
 Quoting: 1908247


My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

Ignerock
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If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

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"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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The importance in human evolution of the tradition of midwifery seems to me to be the logical root of female shamanism.
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now that is a thought
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
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My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

:Ignerock:
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Solar plexus, last night and very much this morning.
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Just wanted to share...



Elephants Hold Apparent Vigil To Mourn Their Human Friend


"Lawrence Anthony was a conservationist and author known as "The Elephant Whisperer" who passed away on March 2nd.


In 1999, Anthony rescued and rehabilitated a group of wild South African elephants who were deemed dangerous. And the animals appear to remember what he did for them: when Anthony passed away, a group of elephants visited his house in the South African KwaZulu for a two-day vigil, according to his family.

Anthony, who grew up in rural Zimbabwe, Zambia and Malawi, was known for his unique ability to communicate with and calm traumatized elephants. In his book 'The Elephant Whisperer: My Life with the Herd in the African Wild', he tells the story of saving the elephant herds, at the request of an animal welfare organization.

Anthony concluded that the only way he could save these elephants, who were categorized as violent and unruly, was to live with them - "To save their lives, I would stay with them, feed them, talk to them. But, most importantly, be with them day and night".

When Anthony died of a heart attack, the elephants, who were grazing miles away in different parts of the park, travelled over 12 hours to reach his house. According to his son Jason, both herds arrived shortly after Anthony's death. They hadn't visited the compound where Anthony lived for a year and a half, but Jason says

"in coming up there on that day of all days, we certainly believe that they had sensed it"
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BodhiTree
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That story raised a wonderful feeling in me seerstar.

We were once much closer to elephants than we are now I believe, and bigger.

[link to i.imgur.com]
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wave

Whoa looks like a nephilim riding that elephant. Either that or he is riding a baby...

babyele

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The roots of female shamanism may go back more then 5 million years and be linked with our ancestors upright posture. Once our ancestors stood upright there would be a need for midwives, according Ian Tattersal, one of the leaders in the study of human evolution and curator at the Museum of Natural History in New York City (Ian Tattersal, Becoming Human p.121-122).
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
 Quoting: 1908247


My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

Ignerock
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Solar plexus, last night and very much this morning.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I've been trying to sleep earlier the last few days. It basically sent me to bed last night, I didn't feel like being awake with the feelings.
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Good morning all.

:)


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oh

here it is

the difference between saturn (cronus) and sol (zeus) or jupiter

looks like jupiter which means there is an era before this one, and after saturn, the one plato is remembering

The Sun always looked the same; the planetary Gods trailed feathers, as Venus did, or donned a tri-lobed headdress and took a body shape of an opened crocodile jaw, as Jupiter did, cruised close to Earth in an attempt to destroy creation, as Mars did, or brought flowers to Earth, as Mercury did -- all experienced in the 8th and 7th century BC
 Quoting: observation


see much work to be done on sequencing our aeons

anyway life under one of their domains was like this:

I see that you enter into my meaning;-no, that blessed and spontaneous life does not belong to the present cycle of the world, but to the previous one, in which God superintended the whole revolution of the universe; and the several parts the universe were distributed under the rule. certain inferior deities, as is the way in some places still There were demigods, who were the shepherds of the various species and herds of animals, and each one was in all respects sufficient for those of whom he was the shepherd; neither was there any violence, or devouring of one another or war or quarrel among them; and I might tell of ten thousand other blessings, which belonged to that dispensation. The reason why the life of man was, as tradition says, spontaneous, is as follows: In those days God himself was their shepherd, and ruled over them, just as man, over them, who is by comparison a divine being, still rules over the lower animals. Under him there were no forms of government or separate possession of women and children; for all men rose again from the earth, having no memory, of the past. And although they had nothing of this sort, the earth gave them fruits in abundance, which grew on trees and shrubs unbidden, and were not planted by the hand of man. And they dwelt naked, and mostly in the open air, for the temperature of their seasons, was mild; and they had no beds, but lay on Soft couches of grass, which grew plentifully out of: the earth. Such was the life of man in the days of Cronos, Socrates; the character of our present life which is said to be under Zeus, you know from your own experience. Can you, and will you, determine which of them you deem the happier?
 Quoting: Plato


can we say demi gods is shaman
 Quoting: aether


whoa. I was asking myself last night on the way home from work, why was it just Saturn that had the plasma sheath and 'energy'? Jupiter is a good candidate for something akin the Saturn being 'electrified'.
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
 Quoting: 1908247


My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

Ignerock
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Solar plexus, last night and very much this morning.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hiya SS !! This is the 4th day now I have been feeling like mine is spinning fast enough I could take off like a copter lol

Its been woozy nation swaying on the sea of consciousness

hmm water world

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"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
 Quoting: 1908247


My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

:Ignerock:
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Solar plexus, last night and very much this morning.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I've been trying to sleep earlier the last few days. It basically sent me to bed last night, I didn't feel like being awake with the feelings.
 Quoting: 1908247


hahaha! I've spent a couple years with that same thought pattern. I would wake up in the morning, and couldn't wait until night came so I could go back to sleep. I wanted the days to pass away as I was eager for life to be done with me. I was tired of being battered non-stop for so many years, I just kind of gave up in searching for contentment.
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
 Quoting: 1908247


My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

:Ignerock:
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Solar plexus, last night and very much this morning.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Hiya SS !! This is the 4th day now I have been feeling like mine is spinning fast enough I could take off like a copter lol

Its been woozy nation swaying on the sea of consciousness

hmm water world

:2bfrac:
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hi

I have been having vast swings. On Wednesday at work, around 4:30pm, I felt like I was submerged in a slow rolling vortex that wiped my thoughts away. I literally felt like I had slumped over my desk, but I didn't. I thought, damn, glad I wasn't driving!
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Yep drunk on the incoming waves of consciousness lol

my sea legs are a bit wobbly at the moment lmao


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"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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whoa. I was asking myself last night on the way home from work, why was it just Saturn that had the plasma sheath and 'energy'? Jupiter is a good candidate for something akin the Saturn being 'electrified'.
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good morning

it is this you are detecting coming into life:

Also, aether, are there going to be papers written on the findings? If so, then different terminology will have to be manifested into the research. Are they building that new lexicon yet?
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hey swinger rockon

late 2013 is the agreed date for this "philosophy" to be published officially and between now and then our sciences are under instruction to incorporate the new numerology into practical publicized experience

so
2014 is the big year when our "new "history and structure and function of our universe becomes practical debate outside the domain of america, russia and china (arc) as in:
from 2014 it should be up and running to be incorporated into global treatise which will take ..........
no one knows how long after that because the big 3 will have done it to the satisfaction of themselves
as they do
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2014 is go rockon
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oh good that's what I thought you meant...I understood the rest of your post...thank you Aether...I think you answered it perfectly within the topic of innocence and the opposite but could there exist an idividual that has both qualities of divinity and being diabolical at the same time? Asking anyone out there. Such heavy energy around me this past hour it's like I will try to grasp this answer then I can move through it..

Cause there are always other questions waiting to be asked chuckle

hf
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okay after reading some stuff my mind is spinning but this question of an entity being divine and diabolical at the same time is confusing me. This is what I found...

In her book, `The Secret Doctrine` Blavatsky wrote, "Lucifer represents life, thought, progress, civilisation, liberty, independence. Lucifer is the Logos, the Serpent, the Saviour" and "It is Lucifer who is the God of our planet and the only God", and she continues, "The celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time, for she is the ever loving beneficent deity, but in antiquity and reality, Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is the divine and terrestrial light, the Holy Ghost and Satan at one and the same time".
[link to rense.com]


Then I found this quote which I liked :D

Divine,diabolical, sacred , profane , sinner, saint, unconditional love,forbidden lust. These are the different faces of God.

Deepak Chopra

So the answer to my question is Lucifer who is the creator who wears many faces? Confusing stuff here...I don't know why this question nags me so...probably because in my mind to be divine is not to be diabolical...

hf
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this is one of my favorite questions/discussions: what/who is Lucifer? (i'll refer to him as lucy)

and the first answer is always: many things to many people. absolute consensus does not exist and so in the end, you have to choose.


that being said, we can look at the old stories and within ourselves and think a bit.

lucy is/was an angel. there are many angels. angels are aspects of God's mind. so: angel =/= God, but part of God.

most agree on this interpretation.

further, lucy was named 'the bright light' of heaven. in some translations: the torch bearer. he was/is a pretty badass angel

then, something happened and he was 'removed' from the kingdom of heaven: lots of diferent stories around why and how, so we'll just leave it at the more simple what: somehow/why 'disconnected' from the rest of the angels and God.

thats the 'story' so far (well, my interpretation, anyway)

what follows is my own thought (subject to probable future change)

the angels are a metephores for the various aspects of God's mind. Since God and us are 'made in the same image', emerge from the same Rules, then all humans have analogs of the angels within us (or maybe a subset...?), including lucy.

this is important: Lucy is at one and the same time an angel and an aspect of the human mind. what ever we say about lucy , we say about ourselves: all of us.

what madame Blavatsky says is , in my opinion, partially correct.

Namely:

lucy = the logos = the logical mind = conscious ideas and processing. he is responsible for civilisation, much progress (in cleverness anyway) and independence.

he is the loudest voice in our conscious awareness: usually.
he has "ideas".

and you're here to tell people to not listen those "ideas".


his aspect also gives rise to what i call 'the observer' within us. The one that always sees whats happening and will tell you (if u listen), but has no power to change anything or act in any way. The observer can be quite annoying when all you can do is hear his voice but haven't learned to rally the other aspects to actually implement change: sucks to watch one's self fail and have no power to change it.... this passes eventually, btw

his ideas are so strong, in fact, that we can be mislead by them, and can be infected by other human's ideas and be mislead by them as well, hence: the 'deceiver'

we have elevated him and his logical thought, his complexly beautifull ideas, as the 'guiding light' of our current civilisation (most of the last 12k years actually), or "god' in fact. our false god.

but that sad truth (for him and most/many? humans) is that, like our logical thought, lucy is limited, obsessed with control, and usually incorrect: a close aproximation perhaps, but in the end: off the mark.

No, not the "sad truth". It's some dude giving his half baked theories with no evidence other than his "intuition". Not truth.

his delishiously sweet ideas, so compelling, so easy to manipulate: mostly incorrect. usefull in the short term, but always off the mark if not guided by the deeper mind: the rest of the kingdom of heaven.
What would those be???
lucy is a fantastic pilot, but a terrible navigator.
The "all Father" that has lost his way cuz he denies the Mother.... and doesn't ever *listen*.
How the fuck do you know??
he is a strong (and very new) aspect to all our minds and a huge part of ascension is about realizing this truth and learning to put him in his proper place.
What? Enki/Lucifer is an ancient god that has been around for thousands of years.
and listen to the true Navigator within.

just a little boy too full of his own awesomeness,,,,,
Ok, you are a weird christard or just have an unusual passive aggressive nature about you.
and whether we like it or not.
Sounds vindictive and nasty... get a strong "deceiver" vibe from you.

this will change.for some, that change will be devastating. and for others: liberating.
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Here is another 'take' on Lucifer:

One of the oldest Gods known to mankind, dating back over 12,000 years ago in the first human civilisations. Enki was known to be the leader of a group of Gods who came to aid humanity, offering knowledge and guidance.

The idea of the Devil was a blanket concept used to group many old gods together as being antagonistic towards humanity's development, which we know to be false through communcations with these beings and close study of history and mythology. Enki has been known as Lucifer - the Morning Star
Melek Ta'us
In Sumeria as Enki - Master of the Earth, Ea - Bringer of Knowledge
in Egypt as Ptah - The Creator
and in many other cultures branching from Celtic, Nordic and Greek all the way back to the original human settlements.

[link to www.enkiea.org]
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what a curious responce, Ray....

i *did* say first that lucy was many things to many people.
and in answer to your questions (last to first)

lucy =/= the devil. logic and sexuality only mix in the mind of a misguided christian. i have some funny ideas as to why the Romans supressed sex in christians.

i am always honest in my posts (occasionally taking poetic licence) and i come to GLP for genuine interaction and the true freedom of anon expression. curious that you respond by 'pointing fingers' at me?

the last there was a statement of my belief that we are(the human race) an expression (rather than the cause) of changes around us and that many changes happen while many humans 'kick and scream'.
change happens whether we like it or not: sometimes it hurts like hell.

why do you think so many humans interpreted the birth of consciousness (and the awkward awareness it brings) as a *punishment* ? awareness hurts before it feels good, quite often.

of course , lucy has been around for thousands of years, since the dawn of conscious awareness: shit, lucy is largely * responsible* for that birthing. he is trully: the torch bearer
the problem is that he is only *part* of our mind, and in my opinion, a small part: important, but small and in some ways, quite flawed. this i know from experience: not books.

what would the rest of the kingdom of heaven be? thats a darn good question. the other 90% of our mind? all the other angels? the feeling part. the creative part? lucy analyses and error checks, but cannot truly *create*. in my opinion of course and based on my experience.
any artist will tell you that there best work always comes from "somewhere else' and many will tell you that didn't even think it was *them* that was doing it. I also have had that experience: moving so deeply in the flow that it feels as if you are along for the ride and have no idea where you are going or what you are really doing, but after its all over and you look back on what you have wrought you see that you coulkd never have planned the 'perfection' that sits before you. just sayin

'half baked' , eh? sticks and stones, friend, sticks and stones. i mearly express my own truth. why are you so threatenned that you need to attack me?

'telling people not to listen to them'. is that what you get from my words? too bad.

look, Ray, anything in excess is poisonous, including 'ideas'. if if one uses a screwdriver to acomplish the task of hammering, one will have problems.

i believe that lucy is out of balance (not evil) in our society and in our minds and that everybody suffers as a result.

i do not require that you agree with me.
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morning!

3rd chakra feelings yesterday before bed

anyone else?
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My solar plexus has been extremely active for days

Greetings Brazil hugs wishing you a fulfilling day

Ignerock
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Solar plexus, last night and very much this morning.
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I've been trying to sleep earlier the last few days. It basically sent me to bed last night, I didn't feel like being awake with the feelings.
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good morning rofl
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whoa. I was asking myself last night on the way home from work, why was it just Saturn that had the plasma sheath and 'energy'? Jupiter is a good candidate for something akin the Saturn being 'electrified'.
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good morning

it is this you are detecting coming into life:

Also, aether, are there going to be papers written on the findings? If so, then different terminology will have to be manifested into the research. Are they building that new lexicon yet?
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hey swinger rockon

late 2013 is the agreed date for this "philosophy" to be published officially and between now and then our sciences are under instruction to incorporate the new numerology into practical publicized experience

so
2014 is the big year when our "new "history and structure and function of our universe becomes practical debate outside the domain of america, russia and china (arc) as in:
from 2014 it should be up and running to be incorporated into global treatise which will take ..........
no one knows how long after that because the big 3 will have done it to the satisfaction of themselves
as they do
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2014 is go rockon
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That link Dion gave on another thread is awesome in that I recognize the way the new lexicons are being created. It is quite something to look at, but I seriously doubt the majority of the people would really understand it at this point, lmao.
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Yep drunk on the incoming waves of consciousness lol

my sea legs are a bit wobbly at the moment lmao


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WaveSurfers

God, every time you show that pick it makes my heart race. If you only knew what those surfers were feeling when that wave was breaking...

It is a mix of absolute terror, and absolute joy. How could you possibly explain such a state of emotion, except through personal experience?

Not one surfer is looking away.

Can you see the power of the feeling?
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I feel the cool pucker just before she breaks.
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You think its Real?


Because it seems like it couldn't be...but also that it may be.

Exhilarating either way.

:)
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Look at the subduction zone before it. She is sucking a deep trough before her. You can see the foamy swirl from the ripping of hydrostatic force against the skin of it.

Feel the plunge off the lip, like falling into an Idea or dream. Ecstasy at being part of the movable landscape and momentarily being provided it's force.

Damn
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I was thinking something quite similar in that moment...

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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:WaveSurfers:

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Seer, I recognized that picture as Teahupoo because it is one of the only surfable waves in the world where the 'subduction' zone out in front of the wave is that far below sea level.
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and besides humans can be divine :P
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humans ARE divine.
so is everything else.... even, and sometimes, especially, the stuff that hurts or even looks 'ugly'.

it really is too bad so many don't see it that way.
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That link Dion gave on another thread is awesome in that I recognize the way the new lexicons are being created. It is quite something to look at, but I seriously doubt the majority of the people would really understand it at this point, lmao.
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to be honest the people doing the work forming them don`t get it mostly either
that and our altering environment are the two wild cards which work in our favor, as in:
may dramatically reduce "transitional" time (linear)

no one knows at this point

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