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evening bea,,

you are correct with regards to remote viewing,,

however,,

when a fixed future time line event is focused upon the outcome of the results become far greator,,

for instance,,

if it was gauranteed in the future that the point of focus had a trigger reality such as,,

two weeks from now you will see a major event on the news,,

if this was a deliberately planned event and happened as a definate,,

then the the surrounding focus would be connected directly to the relative time line,,

and the remote viewing score would be greator,,




much love..
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When the sum must be projected and disbanded in immaterial puffs from all potential presents, everything is always possible.

1:1 are never long odds.

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752, it's not that your high school, it's babel. They speak similar language. You as well as others including myself have different words for same expression.
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anoymous canada,,


regardless of point,, an agreement never blunts truth when sharpened by two stones,,

much love,,
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anoymous canada,,


regardless of point,, an agreement never blunts truth when sharpened by two stones,,

much love,,
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But it may cause chips and sparks to break off and potentially ignite.

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anoymous canada,,


regardless of point,, an agreement never blunts truth when sharpened by two stones,,

much love,,
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But it may cause chips and sparks to break off and potentially ignite.

Cheers
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Lovely Bea.


However, there is a way that Fate and Freewill dance.

Only after all the causes which lead to the 'fated' effect have been set in motion, will the event occur.

Once triggered, effect(fate) of the cause is unstoppable. Small directional changes can be implemented if perceived in time to direct the wave toward a more positive outcome if that is ones intention.


It's the SEEing of the rising of the wave before it arrives is how some have access to strong precognitive gifts.

:)


hf
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Fate can always be broken. While events may be set in motion by fate, how we act/react in the face of them ultimately determines the outcome. Fate's the sad little sister of free will in that respect. It only holds water as long as some believe in it. The minute we turn our backs and say "screw that!" then we take back our power.
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Say for instance the traumatizing events of 9/11.

Many, many, many people perceived that event beforehand.


For me, I began to perceive it about two weeks in advance which was normal for me at the time.


Once that event had been set in motion, as far as all the parts put in place with no foreseeable blockage, the event occurs.

The intention and will of the 'hijackers' was perceived by the sensitive. The rising of that devastating wave perceived.


For instance, the night before 9/11 I was sitting in a bar with my then new to me partner. The anxiety was so bad that I was literally shaking under the weight of it.

I was breathless from it.

I couldn't hold it in any longer...


I looked at him and said,

"Something terrible is about to happen...and it's going to change everything..."

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or finally let go of attempting it.

for me, the key is *cooperation*: team work.
all things in their proper measure: at the correct dose.

for me, when i let go of trying to *create* or master my destiny is when all the best stuff happens...and believ me, aether, i have done some stuff. i have never lived as a sheep, nor ever been interested in being the wolf either... forging my own path even before my parents 'allowed' me to. i have made and implemented *so* many plans some solo, some in group, some as luetenent, some as capitain.

and in all my wanderings and attemtings, the most amazing results and adventures happenned as a complete surprise and could never have been planned by me or any other human: sinconicity does come about thru a master plan.

there IS no plan.

even God is making it us She goes along.

this truth is deeply unsettling to most, but ALL of my experience, in work, play, projects, and adventures, says that it is nevertheless: truth.

nobody is in control here folks. the future is unkown.

deal with it
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we return to mastery of our own destiny in cooperation with our environment (universe)
 Quoting: aether


feels to me
we express familiar/similar emotions of the topic
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This reminds me of a convo we had a while back about how remote viewing only gives a "possible" future, with nothing written in stone. How can it be with billions of hopes, dreams, actions, and thoughts shaping it? The AC is correct, the only master plan is all of us flying by the seat of our collective pants, lmao. And that doesn't unsettle me at all. BUT the whole grand destiny/prophecy stuff does. I realize I don't have ALL the control, but I do have a portion, free will. Destiny and prophecy invalidate the concept of free will entirely.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Our choice is free inasmuch as the locality allows us to envision it, but the circumstance it allows is an alignment of many choices which make up a door.

But freedom is solely an overlay/preconcieved thoughtform which we choose to colour the projection of our thoughts through any and all doors.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, we're saying the same thing, actually... See where I say I don't have all the control, but I have some? Same thing as the locality you're talking about. And alignment of choices, now that's where it gets interesting. I get accused of being psychic a lot... and I'm not. I DO have high pattern recognition skills. I can watch events play out and lay out the most likely possibility by applying all my available information to it.

I realize I don't have all the available information... and in some things, you don't need to, they're macro events that others have set in motion. But fallout/blowback/unintended consequences come in here. Now stepping outside LOCALITY to view events... I'm not sure if that's what others are calling remote viewing or not, but... I know how I do that, but others might not be able to replicate the results due to a mangling of the translation, babel, lol.

And like I told Aether earlier today... what works for one won't work for all. And we're all saying a lot of the same things, then arguing about our personal explanations. I think we do this because we're personally invested in cognitive consonance, we want our views of the world reinforced. I find that with the more views you open yourself up to, the ones you can't find huge logical/emotional faults with, those are the ones you take from and share with others. Within all things are the true, the false, and the meaningless. So we pluck out the true and go from there, lol.

And the true thing I see with ALL is that it's not something special we can do because we're "da specialz," we just notice we do it and actively use it. Everyone can if they know how, but the trouble is, there's no instruction sheet. What works for one won't work for all, and when it doesn't, then too many just call BS and wonder why they even tried.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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All of this constant reference to burial annoys me, do you really think they would go to all of this trouble to bury someone?
There is lots of reports that detail the layering of the covers to these places ( think reich)
organic and inorganic alternative layers, with layers of quartz stones inter laced.
There is every likelihood that burial was a function of these places, a partial function, but not of the organic bodies, more likely the bones were kept precisely positioned for a specific time period.
There have been countless barrows in england looted, gold was the main quarry, especially gold lozenge shaped plates.
If these gold plates were kept precisely on a sink point where flows enter and exit the earth, as the positive charge exits it may create a white plume of a viable sort of light?
I KNOW for certain that the moons field causes a complete about turn of the normal direction of entry and exit flows at the points that are detectable in the main chamber and side chambers of the barrows.
It is much clearer with russian dolmen to see the small hole in the front stone , I consider a lump of quartz will have been utilized to plug this up, and that the quartz will have glowed at the time of reversal, a reverse pressure going through the quartz will have done this.
Because I can follow the flows so precisely, I cannot help but be able to see the results of where the flows hit the stones, often actual carving into the stone, and colors are clear to see, to most this will have little significance, they blame fires etc, I blame plasma.
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anoymous canada,,


regardless of point,, an agreement never blunts truth when sharpened by two stones,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 29282353


But it may cause chips and sparks to break off and potentially ignite.

Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28792938


hehe

And the flame has a mind of its own,
In reaction to all else.

Flint to the cave man,
Void to the daoist butcher.

Cleaving the void,
Never dulling the blade,
A space between cartilages,
As a synaptic cleft.

Vulnerable to the 2D slice,
Sliding sideways into home.

Wielding excalibur,
In an act of Grace?

Separating the reptile from its heaven
A would be lucifer would be happy.
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A couple of links, first is to the gold lozenges, note the zig zags, second is to Russian dolmen, note the zig zags on the fourth picture( click on the full size pictures , and note the colouring at hole centre heights)
the zig zags are the signal patterns leading into the dolmen, and remember these will all have been covered with insulating layers, same as an orgone accumulate
[link to www.stone-circles.org.uk]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Thats a cracking picture of the spirals.
I can follow all of these patterns with ease, here are some more links to tarxien, note the relief block with eight spirals upon it, they occur as fleur de lie patterns down the centre aisles between parallel lines, in our churchs and cathedrals, they are ALWAYS in these groups of fours, and the number of groups of four occuring in alignment dictates the length of the aisles, hence the size of the church or cathedral.
I go to one cathedral in france in Caen, the abbey des hommes, where william the conquerer is buried ( on one of those circle points)
And the ironwork within the cathedral is thousands of spirals, I KNOW why, all the side chambers are where the larger spirals occur, some are positive ( female) some are negative (Male0 the female ones have statues of mary or other female saints stood in them.
The bull and cow reliefs at tarxien are to depict the same .
They did not fear death, as they KNEW it is a continuum, the installation of the fear of death is to do with control.
[link to www.sacred-destinations.com]
[link to www.missgien.net]
[link to www.bradshawfoundation.com]

There is measurable timing involved in the flows directions and strengths, it is all to do with FIELDS and the sun and moon are the most relevant, but all the other planets and their moons chip in, then on a larger scale the stars come into play, nobody dies, everything changes state, its a sea of energy, we are a consequence of.
The life/death cycle is to fibonacci scale, and the spirals are where the duality enters and exits earth, if your soull enters a specific insulated spiral, you KNOW where it will re emerge, hence have the young ready to breed stood in line, re-birth.
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whoa that prompts so much information of our ancestral past
and when this information was gathered i found it interesting but never went into it

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bea,,

agreed in the perception suggested by your good self,,

hmmm,,

okay,,


remote viewing is akin to tracing possible potentional outcomes,,

all outcomes are subject to numerous alterations,,

your correct in the analogy that any remote viewing outcome is completly voidable when subjected too deliberate intervention,,

however,, when it is understood how it is possible that remote viewing could ever become deemed as a succesful predictive media,, the reality of quantum potentional realities become relevant,,

everybody is aware quantum theory suggests that the obeservor has a direct effect upon the outcome of any result,,



remote viewing is very dissimular as it is external,, a form of highly tuned guessing,,

with no direct result expected nor influenced,, just viewing potentional realitys,,


the more minds that think the same the greator the potentional outcome,,


much love,,
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The youtube link to Kate Bush cloudbusting was filmed at a so called hillfort, called Uffington castle, it was ringed with stone and timber, on the side of the hill is a white horse, it would have been a very male horse, further down the hill is dragon hill, this is a chalk built pyramid.
i have wandered about this place many times, and can comprehend what was undertaken here, and they will most definately not have lived within the hill top accumulator.
The fact that Kate Bush chose this location to film about reichs orgone shows to me how tapped in She is [link to www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk]
If you watch the YT link you will recognise the location.
The pyramid called dragon hill is encircled with spiral routes where the flows travel along, I would consider that the spot was capped off by the pyramid to stop the flows earthing.
They will have desired the potential to flood across their lands
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whoa that prompts so much information of our ancestral past
and when this information was gathered i found it interesting but never went into it

abduct
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popcorn


The day I found that bit about Alister Croley's '777', back in March I believe...

damned

phew.



lol.

tounge



"Ever feel like your whole world is dancing with you?"

singularity

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aether,

what is the Carrington Effect? what does it represent?

if you are thinking in terms of solar alone. you are only viewing a single dimensional angle.

as the applicable definition, has the US shaking right now. and most all here feel the effects. even my self.

ever notice this.

zero= -8
one= +8

and ala
can be found in balance.



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yes, i chose my words carefully.

:)

have a great day.

0
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Joy - Despair
Passion - Revulsion
Love - Apathy
Hope - Fear
Gratitude - Anger
Awe - Vigilance
Sympathy - Cruelty
Pride - Shame
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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bea,,

agreed in the perception suggested by your good self,,

hmmm,,

okay,,


remote viewing is akin to tracing possible potentional outcomes,,

all outcomes are subject to numerous alterations,,

your correct in the analogy that any remote viewing outcome is completly voidable when subjected too deliberate intervention,,

however,, when it is understood how it is possible that remote viewing could ever become deemed as a succesful predictive media,, the reality of quantum potentional realities become relevant,,

Agreed. My quirk is with the terminology. It's still too esoteric for the average Jane or Joe to "get," and we're all capable of it in our own way. To find those quantum multiverse jumps, to be able to tune them, it's still too firmly in the realm of "woo" to be accepted by the general populace who still "believe" in "da magickz" and the snow job "mystery schools" have perpetuated for untold generations. And don't take that as a commentary or that I'm projecting that line of thought onto your shoulders, I'm not. I'm just making a statement based on my current snap shot. :)

everybody is aware quantum theory suggests that the obeservor has a direct effect upon the outcome of any result,,


remote viewing is very dissimular as it is external,, a form of highly tuned guessing,,

with no direct result expected nor influenced,, just viewing potentional realitys,,


the more minds that think the same the greator the potentional outcome,,

And agreed, what I'm translating when I read your words... the more watchers observing, the less monkeying those who'd hoard that power can do with the end result. By realizing we can shift results by even simple observation, we throw an effective wrench into the mechanisms others try to write off as "fate/destiny/prophecy." And I wrote that out to illustrate how we all see what we see in the words of others based on our own local reality field, lmao.


much love,,
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Last Edited by JustBea on 12/07/2012 04:09 PM
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


balance3

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whoa that prompts so much information of our ancestral past
and when this information was gathered i found it interesting but never went into it

abduct
 Quoting: aether


popcorn


The day I found that bit about Alister Croley's '777', back in March I believe...

damned

phew.



lol.

tounge



"Ever feel like your whole world is dancing with you?"

singularity
 Quoting: Seer777


yes i have just realized people have gathered over the years all the information required and no one knew why they were doing it or did they
it never makes sense until it makes sense
and when it makes sense someone sees the sense and does what sense tells to do
that scales to any scale desired and within a closed system (earth) it scales to it`s boundary thus includes all within it`s domain
is that fate or destiny
either way
it occurs in reality tounge

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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0-------------> Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0-------------> Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


balance3

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Whoa...

I bet they line up with the chakra system as well.

tounge


rainbowserpentme

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on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night



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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


:balance3:

:)
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Those are the skins.
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anoymous canada,,


regardless of point,, an agreement never blunts truth when sharpened by two stones,,

much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 29282353


But it may cause chips and sparks to break off and potentially ignite.

Cheers
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a warmth created indeed,,

by mirror design some stones are pebbles from the sea bed,,

they never spark yet sharpen by purpose of intention,,

the slow yet gradual erosion of the flame spark destructive potential,,

as is the containment within the creation of the water of life,,

beautiful indeed,,


much love,,
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oh

on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night
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i knew tonight is sat dead3
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oh

on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night
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i knew tonight is sat dead3
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PersistenceofTim

Times is bending...


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on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night




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YouTube 'you might like it' --->that's what I pictured when I read dancing in London! Haha
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bea,,

wonderful indeed,, thankyou,,

spot on,,


much love,,
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


:balance3:

:)
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Those are the skins.
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0 would be the soul clothed in both layers.
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okay after reading some stuff my mind is spinning but this question of an entity being divine and diabolical at the same time is confusing me. This is what I found...

In her book, `The Secret Doctrine` Blavatsky wrote, "Lucifer represents life, thought, progress, civilisation, liberty, independence. Lucifer is the Logos, the Serpent, the Saviour" and "It is Lucifer who is the God of our planet and the only God", and she continues, "The celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time, for she is the ever loving beneficent deity, but in antiquity and reality, Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is the divine and terrestrial light, the Holy Ghost and Satan at one and the same time".
[link to rense.com]


Then I found this quote which I liked :D

Divine,diabolical, sacred , profane , sinner, saint, unconditional love,forbidden lust. These are the different faces of God.

Deepak Chopra

So the answer to my question is Lucifer who is the creator who wears many faces? Confusing stuff here...I don't know why this question nags me so...probably because in my mind to be divine is not to be diabolical...

hf
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this is one of my favorite questions/discussions: what/who is Lucifer? (i'll refer to him as lucy)

and the first answer is always: many things to many people. absolute consensus does not exist and so in the end, you have to choose.


that being said, we can look at the old stories and within ourselves and think a bit.

lucy is/was an angel. there are many angels. angels are aspects of God's mind. so: angel =/= God, but part of God.

most agree on this interpretation.

further, lucy was named 'the bright light' of heaven. in some translations: the torch bearer. he was/is a pretty badass angel

then, something happened and he was 'removed' from the kingdom of heaven: lots of diferent stories around why and how, so we'll just leave it at the more simple what: somehow/why 'disconnected' from the rest of the angels and God.

thats the 'story' so far (well, my interpretation, anyway)

what follows is my own thought (subject to probable future change)

the angels are a metephores for the various aspects of God's mind. Since God and us are 'made in the same image', emerge from the same Rules, then all humans have analogs of the angels within us (or maybe a subset...?), including lucy.

this is important: Lucy is at one and the same time an angel and an aspect of the human mind. what ever we say about lucy , we say about ourselves: all of us.

what madame Blavatsky says is , in my opinion, partially correct.

Namely:

lucy = the logos = the logical mind = conscious ideas and processing. he is responsible for civilisation, much progress (in cleverness anyway) and independence.

he is the loudest voice in our conscious awareness: usually.
he has "ideas".

and you're here to tell people to not listen those "ideas".


his aspect also gives rise to what i call 'the observer' within us. The one that always sees whats happening and will tell you (if u listen), but has no power to change anything or act in any way. The observer can be quite annoying when all you can do is hear his voice but haven't learned to rally the other aspects to actually implement change: sucks to watch one's self fail and have no power to change it.... this passes eventually, btw

his ideas are so strong, in fact, that we can be mislead by them, and can be infected by other human's ideas and be mislead by them as well, hence: the 'deceiver'

we have elevated him and his logical thought, his complexly beautifull ideas, as the 'guiding light' of our current civilisation (most of the last 12k years actually), or "god' in fact. our false god.

but that sad truth (for him and most/many? humans) is that, like our logical thought, lucy is limited, obsessed with control, and usually incorrect: a close aproximation perhaps, but in the end: off the mark.

No, not the "sad truth". It's some dude giving his half baked theories with no evidence other than his "intuition". Not truth.

his delishiously sweet ideas, so compelling, so easy to manipulate: mostly incorrect. usefull in the short term, but always off the mark if not guided by the deeper mind: the rest of the kingdom of heaven.
What would those be???
lucy is a fantastic pilot, but a terrible navigator.
The "all Father" that has lost his way cuz he denies the Mother.... and doesn't ever *listen*.
How the fuck do you know??
he is a strong (and very new) aspect to all our minds and a huge part of ascension is about realizing this truth and learning to put him in his proper place.
What? Enki/Lucifer is an ancient god that has been around for thousands of years.
and listen to the true Navigator within.

just a little boy too full of his own awesomeness,,,,,
Ok, you are a weird christard or just have an unusual passive aggressive nature about you.
and whether we like it or not.
Sounds vindictive and nasty... get a strong "deceiver" vibe from you.

this will change.for some, that change will be devastating. and for others: liberating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515

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Here is another 'take' on Lucifer:

One of the oldest Gods known to mankind, dating back over 12,000 years ago in the first human civilisations. Enki was known to be the leader of a group of Gods who came to aid humanity, offering knowledge and guidance.

The idea of the Devil was a blanket concept used to group many old gods together as being antagonistic towards humanity's development, which we know to be false through communcations with these beings and close study of history and mythology. Enki has been known as Lucifer - the Morning Star
Melek Ta'us
In Sumeria as Enki - Master of the Earth, Ea - Bringer of Knowledge
in Egypt as Ptah - The Creator
and in many other cultures branching from Celtic, Nordic and Greek all the way back to the original human settlements.

[link to www.enkiea.org]
 Quoting: Rayrayz


what a curious responce, Ray....

i *did* say first that lucy was many things to many people.
and in answer to your questions (last to first)

lucy =/= the devil. logic and sexuality only mix in the mind of a misguided christian. i have some funny ideas as to why the Romans supressed sex in christians.

i am always honest in my posts (occasionally taking poetic licence) and i come to GLP for genuine interaction and the true freedom of anon expression. curious that you respond by 'pointing fingers' at me?

the last there was a statement of my belief that we are(the human race) an expression (rather than the cause) of changes around us and that many changes happen while many humans 'kick and scream'.
change happens whether we like it or not: sometimes it hurts like hell.

why do you think so many humans interpreted the birth of consciousness (and the awkward awareness it brings) as a *punishment* ? awareness hurts before it feels good, quite often.

of course , lucy has been around for thousands of years, since the dawn of conscious awareness: shit, lucy is largely * responsible* for that birthing. he is trully: the torch bearer
the problem is that he is only *part* of our mind, and in my opinion, a small part: important, but small and in some ways, quite flawed. this i know from experience: not books.

what would the rest of the kingdom of heaven be? thats a darn good question. the other 90% of our mind? all the other angels? the feeling part. the creative part? lucy analyses and error checks, but cannot truly *create*. in my opinion of course and based on my experience.
any artist will tell you that there best work always comes from "somewhere else' and many will tell you that didn't even think it was *them* that was doing it. I also have had that experience: moving so deeply in the flow that it feels as if you are along for the ride and have no idea where you are going or what you are really doing, but after its all over and you look back on what you have wrought you see that you coulkd never have planned the 'perfection' that sits before you. just sayin

'half baked' , eh? sticks and stones, friend, sticks and stones. i mearly express my own truth. why are you so threatenned that you need to attack me?

'telling people not to listen to them'. is that what you get from my words? too bad.

look, Ray, anything in excess is poisonous, including 'ideas'. if if one uses a screwdriver to acomplish the task of hammering, one will have problems.

i believe that lucy is out of balance (not evil) in our society and in our minds and that everybody suffers as a result.

i do not require that you agree with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


So you are pointing at this mythological deity as the source of all our suffering?


The AC was asking for real information I believe. Possibly something she could research about Lucifer. I believe she took your words as some kind of common knowledge about the subject. It isn't.

I wanted to make it clear that it was just your interpretation(pulled it out of thin air)...and tbh it's a pretty negative and slanted view.

When you use words such as "the sad truth" and follow it up with some cocksure statement, some people will take that to be some kind of statement backed up by facts.

Perhaps my language was a little salty...but honestly, at the time I wanted to discuss it with you in hopes of clearing up the fact that you were indeed just doing some kind of 'free flow' writing...Which I have no problem with, it's just the authoritative tone you used regarding a subject that can't possibly be known for sure.

It reminded me a bit of the role players on the Nobody threads...and how they just make stuff up out of thin air.
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This reminds me of a convo we had a while back about how remote viewing only gives a "possible" future, with nothing written in stone. How can it be with billions of hopes, dreams, actions, and thoughts shaping it? The AC is correct, the only master plan is all of us flying by the seat of our collective pants, lmao. And that doesn't unsettle me at all. BUT the whole grand destiny/prophecy stuff does. I realize I don't have ALL the control, but I do have a portion, free will. Destiny and prophecy invalidate the concept of free will entirely.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Our choice is free inasmuch as the locality allows us to envision it, but the circumstance it allows is an alignment of many choices which make up a door.

But freedom is solely an overlay/preconcieved thoughtform which we choose to colour the projection of our thoughts through any and all doors.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, we're saying the same thing, actually... See where I say I don't have all the control, but I have some? Same thing as the locality you're talking about. And alignment of choices, now that's where it gets interesting. I get accused of being psychic a lot... and I'm not. I DO have high pattern recognition skills. I can watch events play out and lay out the most likely possibility by applying all my available information to it.

I realize I don't have all the available information... and in some things, you don't need to, they're macro events that others have set in motion. But fallout/blowback/unintended consequences come in here. Now stepping outside LOCALITY to view events... I'm not sure if that's what others are calling remote viewing or not, but... I know how I do that, but others might not be able to replicate the results due to a mangling of the translation, babel, lol.

And like I told Aether earlier today... what works for one won't work for all. And we're all saying a lot of the same things, then arguing about our personal explanations. I think we do this because we're personally invested in cognitive consonance, we want our views of the world reinforced. I find that with the more views you open yourself up to, the ones you can't find huge logical/emotional faults with, those are the ones you take from and share with others. Within all things are the true, the false, and the meaningless. So we pluck out the true and go from there, lol.

And the true thing I see with ALL is that it's not something special we can do because we're "da specialz," we just notice we do it and actively use it. Everyone can if they know how, but the trouble is, there's no instruction sheet. What works for one won't work for all, and when it doesn't, then too many just call BS and wonder why they even tried.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Exactly, Our choice is the thin skin between all others that defines us within other. At times merging in symphony and others hitting the sour note to define place lost among being.

No worries Bea, I don't bother arguing, it would entail me creating statues and while statues for a time may be fun to look at, they don't do much. Other than making good anchors.

Cheers


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