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whoa that prompts so much information of our ancestral past
and when this information was gathered i found it interesting but never went into it

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popcorn


The day I found that bit about Alister Croley's '777', back in March I believe...

damned

phew.



lol.

tounge



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yes i have just realized people have gathered over the years all the information required and no one knew why they were doing it or did they
it never makes sense until it makes sense
and when it makes sense someone sees the sense and does what sense tells to do
that scales to any scale desired and within a closed system (earth) it scales to it`s boundary thus includes all within it`s domain
is that fate or destiny
either way
it occurs in reality tounge

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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0-------------> Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0-------------> Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


balance3

:)
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Whoa...

I bet they line up with the chakra system as well.

tounge


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on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night



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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


:balance3:

:)
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Those are the skins.
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anoymous canada,,


regardless of point,, an agreement never blunts truth when sharpened by two stones,,

much love,,
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But it may cause chips and sparks to break off and potentially ignite.

Cheers
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a warmth created indeed,,

by mirror design some stones are pebbles from the sea bed,,

they never spark yet sharpen by purpose of intention,,

the slow yet gradual erosion of the flame spark destructive potential,,

as is the containment within the creation of the water of life,,

beautiful indeed,,


much love,,
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oh

on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night
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i knew tonight is sat dead3
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oh

on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night
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i knew tonight is sat dead3
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PersistenceofTim

Times is bending...


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on that note
a cool walk in our metropolis on sat night




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YouTube 'you might like it' --->that's what I pictured when I read dancing in London! Haha
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bea,,

wonderful indeed,, thankyou,,

spot on,,


much love,,
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


:balance3:

:)
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Those are the skins.
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0 would be the soul clothed in both layers.
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okay after reading some stuff my mind is spinning but this question of an entity being divine and diabolical at the same time is confusing me. This is what I found...

In her book, `The Secret Doctrine` Blavatsky wrote, "Lucifer represents life, thought, progress, civilisation, liberty, independence. Lucifer is the Logos, the Serpent, the Saviour" and "It is Lucifer who is the God of our planet and the only God", and she continues, "The celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time, for she is the ever loving beneficent deity, but in antiquity and reality, Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is the divine and terrestrial light, the Holy Ghost and Satan at one and the same time".
[link to rense.com]


Then I found this quote which I liked :D

Divine,diabolical, sacred , profane , sinner, saint, unconditional love,forbidden lust. These are the different faces of God.

Deepak Chopra

So the answer to my question is Lucifer who is the creator who wears many faces? Confusing stuff here...I don't know why this question nags me so...probably because in my mind to be divine is not to be diabolical...

hf
 Quoting: rising energy brings quests 29208752


this is one of my favorite questions/discussions: what/who is Lucifer? (i'll refer to him as lucy)

and the first answer is always: many things to many people. absolute consensus does not exist and so in the end, you have to choose.


that being said, we can look at the old stories and within ourselves and think a bit.

lucy is/was an angel. there are many angels. angels are aspects of God's mind. so: angel =/= God, but part of God.

most agree on this interpretation.

further, lucy was named 'the bright light' of heaven. in some translations: the torch bearer. he was/is a pretty badass angel

then, something happened and he was 'removed' from the kingdom of heaven: lots of diferent stories around why and how, so we'll just leave it at the more simple what: somehow/why 'disconnected' from the rest of the angels and God.

thats the 'story' so far (well, my interpretation, anyway)

what follows is my own thought (subject to probable future change)

the angels are a metephores for the various aspects of God's mind. Since God and us are 'made in the same image', emerge from the same Rules, then all humans have analogs of the angels within us (or maybe a subset...?), including lucy.

this is important: Lucy is at one and the same time an angel and an aspect of the human mind. what ever we say about lucy , we say about ourselves: all of us.

what madame Blavatsky says is , in my opinion, partially correct.

Namely:

lucy = the logos = the logical mind = conscious ideas and processing. he is responsible for civilisation, much progress (in cleverness anyway) and independence.

he is the loudest voice in our conscious awareness: usually.
he has "ideas".

and you're here to tell people to not listen those "ideas".


his aspect also gives rise to what i call 'the observer' within us. The one that always sees whats happening and will tell you (if u listen), but has no power to change anything or act in any way. The observer can be quite annoying when all you can do is hear his voice but haven't learned to rally the other aspects to actually implement change: sucks to watch one's self fail and have no power to change it.... this passes eventually, btw

his ideas are so strong, in fact, that we can be mislead by them, and can be infected by other human's ideas and be mislead by them as well, hence: the 'deceiver'

we have elevated him and his logical thought, his complexly beautifull ideas, as the 'guiding light' of our current civilisation (most of the last 12k years actually), or "god' in fact. our false god.

but that sad truth (for him and most/many? humans) is that, like our logical thought, lucy is limited, obsessed with control, and usually incorrect: a close aproximation perhaps, but in the end: off the mark.

No, not the "sad truth". It's some dude giving his half baked theories with no evidence other than his "intuition". Not truth.

his delishiously sweet ideas, so compelling, so easy to manipulate: mostly incorrect. usefull in the short term, but always off the mark if not guided by the deeper mind: the rest of the kingdom of heaven.
What would those be???
lucy is a fantastic pilot, but a terrible navigator.
The "all Father" that has lost his way cuz he denies the Mother.... and doesn't ever *listen*.
How the fuck do you know??
he is a strong (and very new) aspect to all our minds and a huge part of ascension is about realizing this truth and learning to put him in his proper place.
What? Enki/Lucifer is an ancient god that has been around for thousands of years.
and listen to the true Navigator within.

just a little boy too full of his own awesomeness,,,,,
Ok, you are a weird christard or just have an unusual passive aggressive nature about you.
and whether we like it or not.
Sounds vindictive and nasty... get a strong "deceiver" vibe from you.

this will change.for some, that change will be devastating. and for others: liberating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515

Replies in red...

Here is another 'take' on Lucifer:

One of the oldest Gods known to mankind, dating back over 12,000 years ago in the first human civilisations. Enki was known to be the leader of a group of Gods who came to aid humanity, offering knowledge and guidance.

The idea of the Devil was a blanket concept used to group many old gods together as being antagonistic towards humanity's development, which we know to be false through communcations with these beings and close study of history and mythology. Enki has been known as Lucifer - the Morning Star
Melek Ta'us
In Sumeria as Enki - Master of the Earth, Ea - Bringer of Knowledge
in Egypt as Ptah - The Creator
and in many other cultures branching from Celtic, Nordic and Greek all the way back to the original human settlements.

[link to www.enkiea.org]
 Quoting: Rayrayz


what a curious responce, Ray....

i *did* say first that lucy was many things to many people.
and in answer to your questions (last to first)

lucy =/= the devil. logic and sexuality only mix in the mind of a misguided christian. i have some funny ideas as to why the Romans supressed sex in christians.

i am always honest in my posts (occasionally taking poetic licence) and i come to GLP for genuine interaction and the true freedom of anon expression. curious that you respond by 'pointing fingers' at me?

the last there was a statement of my belief that we are(the human race) an expression (rather than the cause) of changes around us and that many changes happen while many humans 'kick and scream'.
change happens whether we like it or not: sometimes it hurts like hell.

why do you think so many humans interpreted the birth of consciousness (and the awkward awareness it brings) as a *punishment* ? awareness hurts before it feels good, quite often.

of course , lucy has been around for thousands of years, since the dawn of conscious awareness: shit, lucy is largely * responsible* for that birthing. he is trully: the torch bearer
the problem is that he is only *part* of our mind, and in my opinion, a small part: important, but small and in some ways, quite flawed. this i know from experience: not books.

what would the rest of the kingdom of heaven be? thats a darn good question. the other 90% of our mind? all the other angels? the feeling part. the creative part? lucy analyses and error checks, but cannot truly *create*. in my opinion of course and based on my experience.
any artist will tell you that there best work always comes from "somewhere else' and many will tell you that didn't even think it was *them* that was doing it. I also have had that experience: moving so deeply in the flow that it feels as if you are along for the ride and have no idea where you are going or what you are really doing, but after its all over and you look back on what you have wrought you see that you coulkd never have planned the 'perfection' that sits before you. just sayin

'half baked' , eh? sticks and stones, friend, sticks and stones. i mearly express my own truth. why are you so threatenned that you need to attack me?

'telling people not to listen to them'. is that what you get from my words? too bad.

look, Ray, anything in excess is poisonous, including 'ideas'. if if one uses a screwdriver to acomplish the task of hammering, one will have problems.

i believe that lucy is out of balance (not evil) in our society and in our minds and that everybody suffers as a result.

i do not require that you agree with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


So you are pointing at this mythological deity as the source of all our suffering?


The AC was asking for real information I believe. Possibly something she could research about Lucifer. I believe she took your words as some kind of common knowledge about the subject. It isn't.

I wanted to make it clear that it was just your interpretation(pulled it out of thin air)...and tbh it's a pretty negative and slanted view.

When you use words such as "the sad truth" and follow it up with some cocksure statement, some people will take that to be some kind of statement backed up by facts.

Perhaps my language was a little salty...but honestly, at the time I wanted to discuss it with you in hopes of clearing up the fact that you were indeed just doing some kind of 'free flow' writing...Which I have no problem with, it's just the authoritative tone you used regarding a subject that can't possibly be known for sure.

It reminded me a bit of the role players on the Nobody threads...and how they just make stuff up out of thin air.
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feels to me
we express familiar/similar emotions of the topic
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This reminds me of a convo we had a while back about how remote viewing only gives a "possible" future, with nothing written in stone. How can it be with billions of hopes, dreams, actions, and thoughts shaping it? The AC is correct, the only master plan is all of us flying by the seat of our collective pants, lmao. And that doesn't unsettle me at all. BUT the whole grand destiny/prophecy stuff does. I realize I don't have ALL the control, but I do have a portion, free will. Destiny and prophecy invalidate the concept of free will entirely.
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Our choice is free inasmuch as the locality allows us to envision it, but the circumstance it allows is an alignment of many choices which make up a door.

But freedom is solely an overlay/preconcieved thoughtform which we choose to colour the projection of our thoughts through any and all doors.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, we're saying the same thing, actually... See where I say I don't have all the control, but I have some? Same thing as the locality you're talking about. And alignment of choices, now that's where it gets interesting. I get accused of being psychic a lot... and I'm not. I DO have high pattern recognition skills. I can watch events play out and lay out the most likely possibility by applying all my available information to it.

I realize I don't have all the available information... and in some things, you don't need to, they're macro events that others have set in motion. But fallout/blowback/unintended consequences come in here. Now stepping outside LOCALITY to view events... I'm not sure if that's what others are calling remote viewing or not, but... I know how I do that, but others might not be able to replicate the results due to a mangling of the translation, babel, lol.

And like I told Aether earlier today... what works for one won't work for all. And we're all saying a lot of the same things, then arguing about our personal explanations. I think we do this because we're personally invested in cognitive consonance, we want our views of the world reinforced. I find that with the more views you open yourself up to, the ones you can't find huge logical/emotional faults with, those are the ones you take from and share with others. Within all things are the true, the false, and the meaningless. So we pluck out the true and go from there, lol.

And the true thing I see with ALL is that it's not something special we can do because we're "da specialz," we just notice we do it and actively use it. Everyone can if they know how, but the trouble is, there's no instruction sheet. What works for one won't work for all, and when it doesn't, then too many just call BS and wonder why they even tried.
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Exactly, Our choice is the thin skin between all others that defines us within other. At times merging in symphony and others hitting the sour note to define place lost among being.

No worries Bea, I don't bother arguing, it would entail me creating statues and while statues for a time may be fun to look at, they don't do much. Other than making good anchors.

Cheers
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


balance3

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Those are the skins.
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0 would be the soul clothed in both layers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3922931


:)

Yes.


The Two Pillars.

Mercy and Severity.

MagickCarpet




I noticed the way the '0's' posted looked like a spine. Which reminded me of the chakras.

LightBody



It's ALL connected...

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this is one of my favorite questions/discussions: what/who is Lucifer? (i'll refer to him as lucy)

and the first answer is always: many things to many people. absolute consensus does not exist and so in the end, you have to choose.


that being said, we can look at the old stories and within ourselves and think a bit.

lucy is/was an angel. there are many angels. angels are aspects of God's mind. so: angel =/= God, but part of God.

most agree on this interpretation.

further, lucy was named 'the bright light' of heaven. in some translations: the torch bearer. he was/is a pretty badass angel

then, something happened and he was 'removed' from the kingdom of heaven: lots of diferent stories around why and how, so we'll just leave it at the more simple what: somehow/why 'disconnected' from the rest of the angels and God.

thats the 'story' so far (well, my interpretation, anyway)

what follows is my own thought (subject to probable future change)

the angels are a metephores for the various aspects of God's mind. Since God and us are 'made in the same image', emerge from the same Rules, then all humans have analogs of the angels within us (or maybe a subset...?), including lucy.

this is important: Lucy is at one and the same time an angel and an aspect of the human mind. what ever we say about lucy , we say about ourselves: all of us.

what madame Blavatsky says is , in my opinion, partially correct.

Namely:

lucy = the logos = the logical mind = conscious ideas and processing. he is responsible for civilisation, much progress (in cleverness anyway) and independence.

he is the loudest voice in our conscious awareness: usually.
he has "ideas".

and you're here to tell people to not listen those "ideas".


his aspect also gives rise to what i call 'the observer' within us. The one that always sees whats happening and will tell you (if u listen), but has no power to change anything or act in any way. The observer can be quite annoying when all you can do is hear his voice but haven't learned to rally the other aspects to actually implement change: sucks to watch one's self fail and have no power to change it.... this passes eventually, btw

his ideas are so strong, in fact, that we can be mislead by them, and can be infected by other human's ideas and be mislead by them as well, hence: the 'deceiver'

we have elevated him and his logical thought, his complexly beautifull ideas, as the 'guiding light' of our current civilisation (most of the last 12k years actually), or "god' in fact. our false god.

but that sad truth (for him and most/many? humans) is that, like our logical thought, lucy is limited, obsessed with control, and usually incorrect: a close aproximation perhaps, but in the end: off the mark.

No, not the "sad truth". It's some dude giving his half baked theories with no evidence other than his "intuition". Not truth.

his delishiously sweet ideas, so compelling, so easy to manipulate: mostly incorrect. usefull in the short term, but always off the mark if not guided by the deeper mind: the rest of the kingdom of heaven.
What would those be???
lucy is a fantastic pilot, but a terrible navigator.
The "all Father" that has lost his way cuz he denies the Mother.... and doesn't ever *listen*.
How the fuck do you know??
he is a strong (and very new) aspect to all our minds and a huge part of ascension is about realizing this truth and learning to put him in his proper place.
What? Enki/Lucifer is an ancient god that has been around for thousands of years.
and listen to the true Navigator within.

just a little boy too full of his own awesomeness,,,,,
Ok, you are a weird christard or just have an unusual passive aggressive nature about you.
and whether we like it or not.
Sounds vindictive and nasty... get a strong "deceiver" vibe from you.

this will change.for some, that change will be devastating. and for others: liberating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515

Replies in red...

Here is another 'take' on Lucifer:

One of the oldest Gods known to mankind, dating back over 12,000 years ago in the first human civilisations. Enki was known to be the leader of a group of Gods who came to aid humanity, offering knowledge and guidance.

The idea of the Devil was a blanket concept used to group many old gods together as being antagonistic towards humanity's development, which we know to be false through communcations with these beings and close study of history and mythology. Enki has been known as Lucifer - the Morning Star
Melek Ta'us
In Sumeria as Enki - Master of the Earth, Ea - Bringer of Knowledge
in Egypt as Ptah - The Creator
and in many other cultures branching from Celtic, Nordic and Greek all the way back to the original human settlements.

[link to www.enkiea.org]
 Quoting: Rayrayz


what a curious responce, Ray....

i *did* say first that lucy was many things to many people.
and in answer to your questions (last to first)

lucy =/= the devil. logic and sexuality only mix in the mind of a misguided christian. i have some funny ideas as to why the Romans supressed sex in christians.

i am always honest in my posts (occasionally taking poetic licence) and i come to GLP for genuine interaction and the true freedom of anon expression. curious that you respond by 'pointing fingers' at me?

the last there was a statement of my belief that we are(the human race) an expression (rather than the cause) of changes around us and that many changes happen while many humans 'kick and scream'.
change happens whether we like it or not: sometimes it hurts like hell.

why do you think so many humans interpreted the birth of consciousness (and the awkward awareness it brings) as a *punishment* ? awareness hurts before it feels good, quite often.

of course , lucy has been around for thousands of years, since the dawn of conscious awareness: shit, lucy is largely * responsible* for that birthing. he is trully: the torch bearer
the problem is that he is only *part* of our mind, and in my opinion, a small part: important, but small and in some ways, quite flawed. this i know from experience: not books.

what would the rest of the kingdom of heaven be? thats a darn good question. the other 90% of our mind? all the other angels? the feeling part. the creative part? lucy analyses and error checks, but cannot truly *create*. in my opinion of course and based on my experience.
any artist will tell you that there best work always comes from "somewhere else' and many will tell you that didn't even think it was *them* that was doing it. I also have had that experience: moving so deeply in the flow that it feels as if you are along for the ride and have no idea where you are going or what you are really doing, but after its all over and you look back on what you have wrought you see that you coulkd never have planned the 'perfection' that sits before you. just sayin

'half baked' , eh? sticks and stones, friend, sticks and stones. i mearly express my own truth. why are you so threatenned that you need to attack me?

'telling people not to listen to them'. is that what you get from my words? too bad.

look, Ray, anything in excess is poisonous, including 'ideas'. if if one uses a screwdriver to acomplish the task of hammering, one will have problems.

i believe that lucy is out of balance (not evil) in our society and in our minds and that everybody suffers as a result.

i do not require that you agree with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


So you are pointing at this mythological deity as the source of all our suffering?


The AC was asking for real information I believe. Possibly something she could research about Lucifer. I believe she took your words as some kind of common knowledge about the subject. It isn't.

I wanted to make it clear that it was just your interpretation(pulled it out of thin air)...and tbh it's a pretty negative and slanted view.

When you use words such as "the sad truth" and follow it up with some cocksure statement, some people will take that to be some kind of statement backed up by facts.

Perhaps my language was a little salty...but honestly, at the time I wanted to discuss it with you in hopes of clearing up the fact that you were indeed just doing some kind of 'free flow' writing...Which I have no problem with, it's just the authoritative tone you used regarding a subject that can't possibly be known for sure.

It reminded me a bit of the role players on the Nobody threads...and how they just make stuff up out of thin air.
 Quoting: Rayrayz


Actually it's just us refusing to take responsibility for our own conciousness. However, some believe this has manifested a being which is the sum of this refused conciousness.

It is the sum archetype of casting blame on other.
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I just had a flash. The tensegrity effect arises from the magnetic charge field, not the electric charge field. Of course, it is formed through both of them, but relies on the magnetic charge field for tensegrity area of 'force' influence.
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oh.that must be why when I inhabit certain sacred.inner spaces I always sort of centerland .. from same co-ordinates , directions..always with the same pole swing shift sensation feeling...good connection for me lol..I will look into that when I am sleeping tonight the connection with OBE/direction/orientate and magnetic chargefield/tensegrity lol

maybe the ancestors/feelings/emotion/information bringers are using conduits ..? there are many conduits being formed now ..

dont know but I always feel/see/meet our ancestors here now multi dimensionally/superimposed/geometrically overlayed and we just have to step up lovely steps in our inner minds they would love to meet x ..

hf
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity

 Quoting: Seer777


The '0's' resemble a moving wave if you look at it for a bit.

Dancing on the balance of the fulcrum for each assigned energy system...


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hf

I really saw the 0's moving before I read what you said tounge
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hf

I really saw the 0's moving before I read what you said tounge
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


:balance3:

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Those are the skins.
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0 would be the soul clothed in both layers.
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:)

Yes.


The Two Pillars.

Mercy and Severity.

:MagickCarpet:




I noticed the way the '0's' posted looked like a spine. Which reminded me of the chakras.

:LightBody:



It's ALL connected...

:treeoflife:

:SaplingWithin:
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Now bring the magician(11 or two pillars, male and female) together into 1 or the I , which would be 10 and make the inner outer and you have the Greek symbol phi.
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Replies in red...

Here is another 'take' on Lucifer:

One of the oldest Gods known to mankind, dating back over 12,000 years ago in the first human civilisations. Enki was known to be the leader of a group of Gods who came to aid humanity, offering knowledge and guidance.

The idea of the Devil was a blanket concept used to group many old gods together as being antagonistic towards humanity's development, which we know to be false through communcations with these beings and close study of history and mythology. Enki has been known as Lucifer - the Morning Star
Melek Ta'us
In Sumeria as Enki - Master of the Earth, Ea - Bringer of Knowledge
in Egypt as Ptah - The Creator
and in many other cultures branching from Celtic, Nordic and Greek all the way back to the original human settlements.

[link to www.enkiea.org]
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what a curious responce, Ray....

i *did* say first that lucy was many things to many people.
and in answer to your questions (last to first)

lucy =/= the devil. logic and sexuality only mix in the mind of a misguided christian. i have some funny ideas as to why the Romans supressed sex in christians.

i am always honest in my posts (occasionally taking poetic licence) and i come to GLP for genuine interaction and the true freedom of anon expression. curious that you respond by 'pointing fingers' at me?

the last there was a statement of my belief that we are(the human race) an expression (rather than the cause) of changes around us and that many changes happen while many humans 'kick and scream'.
change happens whether we like it or not: sometimes it hurts like hell.

why do you think so many humans interpreted the birth of consciousness (and the awkward awareness it brings) as a *punishment* ? awareness hurts before it feels good, quite often.

of course , lucy has been around for thousands of years, since the dawn of conscious awareness: shit, lucy is largely * responsible* for that birthing. he is trully: the torch bearer
the problem is that he is only *part* of our mind, and in my opinion, a small part: important, but small and in some ways, quite flawed. this i know from experience: not books.

what would the rest of the kingdom of heaven be? thats a darn good question. the other 90% of our mind? all the other angels? the feeling part. the creative part? lucy analyses and error checks, but cannot truly *create*. in my opinion of course and based on my experience.
any artist will tell you that there best work always comes from "somewhere else' and many will tell you that didn't even think it was *them* that was doing it. I also have had that experience: moving so deeply in the flow that it feels as if you are along for the ride and have no idea where you are going or what you are really doing, but after its all over and you look back on what you have wrought you see that you coulkd never have planned the 'perfection' that sits before you. just sayin

'half baked' , eh? sticks and stones, friend, sticks and stones. i mearly express my own truth. why are you so threatenned that you need to attack me?

'telling people not to listen to them'. is that what you get from my words? too bad.

look, Ray, anything in excess is poisonous, including 'ideas'. if if one uses a screwdriver to acomplish the task of hammering, one will have problems.

i believe that lucy is out of balance (not evil) in our society and in our minds and that everybody suffers as a result.

i do not require that you agree with me.
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So you are pointing at this mythological deity as the source of all our suffering?


The AC was asking for real information I believe. Possibly something she could research about Lucifer. I believe she took your words as some kind of common knowledge about the subject. It isn't.

I wanted to make it clear that it was just your interpretation(pulled it out of thin air)...and tbh it's a pretty negative and slanted view.

When you use words such as "the sad truth" and follow it up with some cocksure statement, some people will take that to be some kind of statement backed up by facts.

Perhaps my language was a little salty...but honestly, at the time I wanted to discuss it with you in hopes of clearing up the fact that you were indeed just doing some kind of 'free flow' writing...Which I have no problem with, it's just the authoritative tone you used regarding a subject that can't possibly be known for sure.

It reminded me a bit of the role players on the Nobody threads...and how they just make stuff up out of thin air.
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Actually it's just us refusing to take responsibility for our own conciousness. However, some believe this has manifested a being which is the sum of this refused conciousness.

It is the sum archetype of casting blame on other.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Yeah, that is my 'feeling' as well. I see the "blame lucifer" mumbo jumbo as a distraction... along the lines of the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause.
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Those are the skins.
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0 would be the soul clothed in both layers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3922931


:)

Yes.


The Two Pillars.

Mercy and Severity.

MagickCarpet




I noticed the way the '0's' posted looked like a spine. Which reminded me of the chakras.

LightBody



It's ALL connected...

treeoflife

SaplingWithin
 Quoting: Seer777



Now bring the magician(11 or two pillars, male and female) together into 1 or the I , which would be 10 and make the inner outer and you have the Greek symbol phi.
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phi


Which leads to what?

Spin.

triangle1





Well done.

:)
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity

 Quoting: Seer777


The '0's' resemble a moving wave if you look at it for a bit.

Dancing on the balance of the fulcrum for each assigned energy system...


Rainbowfrequency

:)
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column on the left = (our)fantasy/unsustainable
column on the right = reality/sustainable to any scale
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I just had a flash. The tensegrity effect arises from the magnetic charge field, not the electric charge field. Of course, it is formed through both of them, but relies on the magnetic charge field for tensegrity area of 'force' influence.
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oh.that must be why when I inhabit certain sacred.inner spaces I always sort of centerland .. from same co-ordinates , directions..always with the same pole swing shift sensation feeling...good connection for me lol..I will look into that when I am sleeping tonight the connection with OBE/direction/orientate and magnetic chargefield/tensegrity lol

maybe the ancestors/feelings/emotion/information bringers are using conduits ..? there are many conduits being formed now ..

dont know but I always feel/see/meet our ancestors here now multi dimensionally/superimposed/geometrically overlayed and we just have to step up lovely steps in our inner minds they would love to meet x ..

hf
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that`s lovely cheers
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originally the two pillars are cause of cause
the third pillar is their affect
superimposing our emotional fantasies onto the original information to make ourselves feel better about our behavior clouds the meanings tounge

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boy that was a good walk rofl
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7 Deadly versus 7 Virtues...


Wrath <---------------0------------->Patience
Greed <---------------0-------------> Charity
Sloth <---------------0-------------> Diligence
Gluttony <------------0-------------> Temperance
Envy <----------------0------------->Kindness
Pride <---------------0-------------> Humility
Lust <----------------0-------------> Chastity

 Quoting: Seer777


The '0's' resemble a moving wave if you look at it for a bit.

Dancing on the balance of the fulcrum for each assigned energy system...


Rainbowfrequency

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


column on the left = (our)fantasy/unsustainable
column on the right = reality/sustainable to any scale
 Quoting: aether


I think it is the dance between to varying degrees.

Which is why it waves.



For example when you have to wait in a long line at the store...'your' (0's) patience is tried.

One alternates between states of 'wrath' and 'patience'.

I <----0----> I

By doing so properly, a lesson is learned and one is able to rise above the discomfort which is causes by the fluctuation due to the stimuli.

yinyang


balance4


Edit: I am writing so fast I am getting grammatical mistakes.

tounge

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I think it is the dance between to varying degrees.

Which is why is waves.



For example when you you have to wait in a long line at the store...'your' (0's) patience is tried.

One alternates between states of 'wrath' and 'patience'.

I <----0----> I

By doing so properly, a lesson is learned and one is able to rise above the discomfort which is causes by the fluctuation due to the stimuli.

yinyang


balance4
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yes
it is a location thing
in this location it is true
in other locations (era`s) past/future it is not true
reality dictates fantasy is truly expressed in this location
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Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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