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War is Hell.



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War is Hell.



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I was gonna play war, but this fits well (:



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Of course! The death culture we inhabit could really learn from it's own underground sex culture, lmao.
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a city of necrophiles sorta thing?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Uhm, no, lol. Dealing with aggression via consensual agreement, dealing with fidelity issues by testing boundaries, things like that. I didn't say combine them, for Chrissake! LMAO!
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
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a city of necrophiles sorta thing?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Uhm, no, lol. Dealing with aggression via consensual agreement, dealing with fidelity issues by testing boundaries, things like that. I didn't say combine them, for Chrissake! LMAO!
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
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complexity is simpler sense when seen whole

i like that
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a city of necrophiles sorta thing?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Uhm, no, lol. Dealing with aggression via consensual agreement, dealing with fidelity issues by testing boundaries, things like that. I didn't say combine them, for Chrissake! LMAO!
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


It is not a duality unless you construe it as one. In fact it is tripartite and in realization monopolar. As to realize a thing you must be it.

When they tell you they want one with everything they mean it.

Transcendental and Temporal are the parts that leap to mind.
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Uhm, no, lol. Dealing with aggression via consensual agreement, dealing with fidelity issues by testing boundaries, things like that. I didn't say combine them, for Chrissake! LMAO!
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


It is not a duality unless you construe it as one. In fact it is tripartite and in realization monopolar. As to realize a thing you must be it.

When they tell you they want one with everything they mean it.

Transcendental and Temporal are the parts that leap to mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


good morning

can we say that by structuring 2 or more we can become the singular affect of what we have constructed
thus we know how we got there but we no longer express how we got there
we express what we are having arrived
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What's the mainstream's problem with Arp?

If they know:
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

and they know this:
[link to www.dailygalaxy.com]

Then even without EU, it seems they would reason:
1. There are highly ionized galaxies that show high redshift.
2. Dynamo theory (their cause for magnetic fields, without net charged objects), means spinning galaxies with lots of ions should have strong magnetic fields.
3. Magnetic fields cause redshift.
Therefore, these highly ionized galaxies we see should have a higher redshift than we expect from Hubble's Law.

So even if the mainstream does not believe any of EU theory, should'nt they still have figured out that Halton Arp was right about non velocity redshifts for these galaxies?
 Quoting: observation



 Quoting: aether


"non velocity redshift"

what an excellent collection of words.
brings to mind the sensation of standing still while zooming.

the sensation(measurement) of relative motion does not fully depend upon speed/vector?


and this would of course get rid of the nessesity for (the imaginary idea of)dark energy and means that we cannot know the nature of expansion vs contraction in the greater cosmos?
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What's the mainstream's problem with Arp?

If they know:
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

and they know this:
[link to www.dailygalaxy.com]

Then even without EU, it seems they would reason:
1. There are highly ionized galaxies that show high redshift.
2. Dynamo theory (their cause for magnetic fields, without net charged objects), means spinning galaxies with lots of ions should have strong magnetic fields.
3. Magnetic fields cause redshift.
Therefore, these highly ionized galaxies we see should have a higher redshift than we expect from Hubble's Law.

So even if the mainstream does not believe any of EU theory, should'nt they still have figured out that Halton Arp was right about non velocity redshifts for these galaxies?
 Quoting: observation



 Quoting: aether


"non velocity redshift"

what an excellent collection of words.
brings to mind the sensation of standing still while zooming.

the sensation(measurement) of relative motion does not fully depend upon speed/vector?


and this would of course get rid of the nessesity for (the imaginary idea of)dark energy and means that we cannot know the nature of expansion vs contraction in the greater cosmos?
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the skys have been interestingly busy today indeed,,

those usually hidden,, were not,,

a visual delight within plain sight,, for all too see,,

and yet the specticle was majoritally missed by the hurrying christmas shoppers,,

it is particulary interesting how focus remains dutifully focused and content in greator acceptable ignorance,,

much love,,


much love,,
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Uhm, no, lol. Dealing with aggression via consensual agreement, dealing with fidelity issues by testing boundaries, things like that. I didn't say combine them, for Chrissake! LMAO!
 Quoting: Bea Nameless


Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


It is not a duality unless you construe it as one. In fact it is tripartite and in realization monopolar. As to realize a thing you must be it.

When they tell you they want one with everything they mean it.

Transcendental and Temporal are the parts that leap to mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


curious combo, that is.

what does transcendental mean to you?
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Sirius was said to be red once. But then it changed to blue.

Seneca commented that Sirius was of a deeper red than Mars, while Ptolemy labeled the star “reddish” and grouped it with five other stars, all of which are indeed of red or orange aspect.


Sirius A
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the skys have been interestingly busy today indeed,,

those usually hidden,, were not,,

a visual delight within plain sight,, for all too see,,

and yet the specticle was majoritally missed by the hurrying christmas shoppers,,

it is particulary interesting how focus remains dutifully focused and content in greator acceptable ignorance,,

much love,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 29282353


i noticed that this morning
all planes in geometric formation and more of them than normally noticeable
prompted me to say to the person i was with tongue in cheek
"are they in a race"
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Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


It is not a duality unless you construe it as one. In fact it is tripartite and in realization monopolar. As to realize a thing you must be it.

When they tell you they want one with everything they mean it.

Transcendental and Temporal are the parts that leap to mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


good morning

can we say that by structuring 2 or more we can become the singular affect of what we have constructed
thus we know how we got there but we no longer express how we got there
we express what we are having arrived
 Quoting: aether


hmmm.

there are many percieved singular effects. the mind of a beehive. the mind/body of a human. the mind of God.

these all seem like singluar 'effects' and certainly the experienc3e of ego is a singular effect, yes?

but to understand the singular we usually frame it as a dulaity of oposing 'forces': oposites.

my thought, both today, and a diferent day was/is that framing an idea or a personality in only two mnytually apposing terms is incomplete and leads to false logic and icorrect conclusions.

i agree that being there is more important than understanding how the path moved us there, but i still seek to frame the singular, just one more step beyond duality, and yes maybe trinity, but my thoughts took me to a pair of trinities, balanced like a lamniscate with each trinity at right angles to the other.

nice to have that thoguht brought back to me
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Sirius was said to be red once. But then it changed to blue.

Seneca commented that Sirius was of a deeper red than Mars, while Ptolemy labeled the star “reddish” and grouped it with five other stars, all of which are indeed of red or orange aspect.


Sirius A
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Green Sun Over Egypt

The standard interpretations of Egyptian pyramid texts date from the late 1800's. Nobody at that time had considered even the possibility of a different solar-system order having pertained just 6000 years ago; quite naturally, all explanations given were in terms of present reality, even though the fit could be seen to be a forced one.
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de ja vu talking to you on this topic tounge
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Sirius was said to be red once. But then it changed to blue.

Seneca commented that Sirius was of a deeper red than Mars, while Ptolemy labeled the star “reddish” and grouped it with five other stars, all of which are indeed of red or orange aspect.


Sirius A
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Green Sun Over Egypt

The standard interpretations of Egyptian pyramid texts date from the late 1800's. Nobody at that time had considered even the possibility of a different solar-system order having pertained just 6000 years ago; quite naturally, all explanations given were in terms of present reality, even though the fit could be seen to be a forced one.
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.bearfabrique.org]

de ja vu talking to you on this topic tounge
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oh
the emerald tablet tounge
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this ones account is not of planes dear aether,,

though the mention of formations is lucidly agree-able,,

the sight witnessed is one which may become far more familular in the very near future indeed,,


much love,,
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the skys have been interestingly busy today indeed,,

those usually hidden,, were not,,

a visual delight within plain sight,, for all too see,,

and yet the specticle was majoritally missed by the hurrying christmas shoppers,,

it is particulary interesting how focus remains dutifully focused and content in greator acceptable ignorance,,

much love,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 29282353


i noticed that this morning
all planes in geometric formation and more of them than normally noticeable
prompted me to say to the person i was with tongue in cheek
"are they in a race"
 Quoting: aether




hf
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the skys have been interestingly busy today indeed,,

those usually hidden,, were not,,

a visual delight within plain sight,, for all too see,,

and yet the specticle was majoritally missed by the hurrying christmas shoppers,,

it is particulary interesting how focus remains dutifully focused and content in greator acceptable ignorance,,

much love,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 29282353


i noticed that this morning
all planes in geometric formation and more of them than normally noticeable
prompted me to say to the person i was with tongue in cheek
"are they in a race"
 Quoting: aether




hf
 Quoting: Seer777


notice the absence of noticeable emotional sensation radiating from the people
the materials and shape of that building overwhelms emotional sensitivity by design thus the occupants are biased "without thought" to rely on artificial signs to prompt what they do

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Hello Everyone,

Stay Safe and Balanced

Shine Brightly

Much Love,

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notice the absence of noticeable emotional sensation radiating from the people
the materials and shape of that building overwhelms emotional sensitivity by design thus the occupants are biased "without thought" to rely on artificial signs to prompt what they do
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It's because they think they want to be there. But they know they really don't.

For when they return to the home mount, arms full of bags, and pockets drained, the settling of the obvious distaste for consumerism for consumerism sake, begins to empty that space which was just filled by consuming.


I am not one to notice anothers shoes, bag, or jewelry so I was never caught up in the illusion.

It just never held much importance to me, much to my girlfriends dismay at my not 'liking' shopping, as a youth.

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notice the absence of noticeable emotional sensation radiating from the people
the materials and shape of that building overwhelms emotional sensitivity by design thus the occupants are biased "without thought" to rely on artificial signs to prompt what they do
 Quoting: aether


It's because they think they want to be there. But they know they really don't.

For when they return to the home mount, arms full of bags, and pockets drained, the settling of the obvious distaste for consumerism for consumerism sake, begins to empty that space which was just filled by consuming.


I am not one to notice anothers shoes, bag, or jewelry so I was never caught up in the illusion.

It just never held much importance to me, much to my girlfriends dismay at my not 'liking' shopping, as a youth.

tounge
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hmm
my then ego + boredom = rolleyes on that topic in my past tounge
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hmm
my then ego + boredom = rolleyes on that topic in my past tounge
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lol

I'm kinda bored too. Perhaps I will get ready for the day.

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Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
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It is not a duality unless you construe it as one. In fact it is tripartite and in realization monopolar. As to realize a thing you must be it.

When they tell you they want one with everything they mean it.

Transcendental and Temporal are the parts that leap to mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


good morning

can we say that by structuring 2 or more we can become the singular affect of what we have constructed
thus we know how we got there but we no longer express how we got there
we express what we are having arrived
 Quoting: aether


hmmm.

there are many percieved singular effects. the mind of a beehive. the mind/body of a human. the mind of God.

these all seem like singluar 'effects' and certainly the experienc3e of ego is a singular effect, yes?

but to understand the singular we usually frame it as a dulaity of oposing 'forces': oposites.

my thought, both today, and a diferent day was/is that framing an idea or a personality in only two mnytually apposing terms is incomplete and leads to false logic and icorrect conclusions.

i agree that being there is more important than understanding how the path moved us there, but i still seek to frame the singular, just one more step beyond duality, and yes maybe trinity, but my thoughts took me to a pair of trinities, balanced like a lamniscate with each trinity at right angles to the other.

nice to have that thoguht brought back to me
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moving out of the physical (geometry) into the metapphysical(ideas) can we then frame an idea by six other ideas: 3 of which are perpendicular to the other trinity.

which brings to mind the question: if 'bad' is the opposite of 'good', then is there an idea that is 'perpendicular to 'good', and if so, what would that idea be?

what is a perpendicular idea?
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moving out of the physical (geometry) into the metapphysical(ideas) can we then frame an idea by six other ideas: 3 of which are perpendicular to the other trinity.

which brings to mind the question: if 'bad' is the opposite of 'good', then is there an idea that is 'perpendicular to 'good', and if so, what would that idea be?

what is a perpendicular idea?
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unexpected (eureka) emotional direction (idea) not experienced (fully known) until the invisible architecture (information within idea) is constructed thus expression (information) has dimension (somewhere) to express within and consequential feed back occurs (knowing)
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The Festival of lights( Hanukkah) starts at sunset tonight , with all that is going on it should be interesting what transpires up until the 16th sunset hf

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Seerstar or any of you guys, during my last obe I had a ceremony in a golden pyramid, behind the main hooded being was an alter and on the alter was this [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] that I saw seer post on previous page but it was golden, there was also a candle stick holder like this [link to 2.bp.blogspot.com]

They chanted chosen and placed a mark on my forehead, as soon as the mark sunk in I was pulled back to my body like I had an elastic band attached to me, was very cool feeling, flying backwards at breakneck speed, like being pulled by a cord.

I have not meditated since that day, almost 5 months now, I am planning to once again take the dive, on 12/12/12... I have been building intent for some weeks now hopefully a lot wiser and holding more consciousness so as to have more control over the situations that arise, and not just kneel for some dudes in hoods with nice chanty voices hahaha, I want to ask why is all, soon I will catch them off guard the way they always do me lol.

Wow tangent right I am off to get ready the woods are calling.

Will pop in later have a great day all.
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acuk, I have completely stopped meditating as well, for about a year or more now. I had planned to start meditating again on 12/21/12. Perhaps I will start on 12/12/12 like you are doing.
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Seerstar or any of you guys, during my last obe I had a ceremony in a golden pyramid, behind the main hooded being was an alter and on the alter was this [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] that I saw seer post on previous page but it was golden, there was also a candle stick holder like this [link to 2.bp.blogspot.com]

They chanted chosen and placed a mark on my forehead, as soon as the mark sunk in I was pulled back to my body like I had an elastic band attached to me, was very cool feeling, flying backwards at breakneck speed, like being pulled by a cord.

I have not meditated since that day, almost 5 months now, I am planning to once again take the dive, on 12/12/12... I have been building intent for some weeks now hopefully a lot wiser and holding more consciousness so as to have more control over the situations that arise, and not just kneel for some dudes in hoods with nice chanty voices hahaha, I want to ask why is all, soon I will catch them off guard the way they always do me lol.

Wow tangent right I am off to get ready the woods are calling.

Will pop in later have a great day all.
 Quoting: acuk 29323529


I have two experiences that relate strongly with this type of experience you had, acuk. This were copied and pasted from e-mails I had sent to my sister.

June 6, 2008

XXXX, next time you find yourself meditating with me being involved, asked what my dream was last night, Friday/Saturday June 6/7 2008.

I found myself having to play as an actor in front of a group of people/enitites/gods. I was an actor in that I had to 'play along' with what was going on without their knowledge that I understood things. I had to become so engrossed that parts of me, as a necessity, had to become lost. One of the most dramatic parts of the dream was where I had been encased in a transparent 'helmet' or something and one of the 'gods/entities' filled it up with a dark liquid and 4 (if I remember the number correctly) small creatures that crawled down my throat. So in the process of drown, I had these things slithering down my throat. I think that they were a snake, huge cricket, frog, and maybe a lizard. I went through the process knowing that if I held panic at bay and focused, I could survive this rather easily. Maybe the creatures were a device to invoke panic... Something happened and the helmet released. I wretched and had to pull the small creatures one by one from my throat. (There is a symbology in doing this action that I will write to you about a little later).

Another episode I can clearly remember was that I was encased in gold with a female figure. We were placed there on purpose as a means to get rid of us. We began spinning our eassence very controlled and subtle. Slowly and precisely. We worked within ourselves like a clay maker guiding the shape of clay into a vase or wide cup shape. Very slow we guided the energy. The energy began pooling in the center as we worked. We smiled at eachother. The 'clay' we moulded too on the shape of a broad rimmed mug, shallow and wide. It was formed from the gold we were encased in. The energy used to form the golden mug is the same that pooled in the center. The center I noticed was the bottom of the 'mug'. It had the appearance of mercury, but lighter and with less viscosity. Then, we showed ourselves and what we were doing, subtely, to the gods/entities. And slowly began raising the 'mug' to our lips, all the while encased in this column of gold. They grew angry and stopped us, as we knew they would. They took the mug from us and began drinking it themselves, as we knew they would. We tricked them. Though the energy was good for us (after all, I believe it was part of us) it destroyed them. We were released from that bondage.

Themes of this nature ran throughout my dreams last night. None of it was lucid, but contained this type of feel. They all took place underground, in catacombs. Lit somehow with orange/goldish light sources. All of the episodes had this theme, and never once did I harm them or do anything diercectly to them. I created situations that I knew their greed and agner and jealousy would would make them fail themselves. I never thought of the situations I must create, they were just there, without thought. I felt I was an actor because I was something different from what they thought.

I was Jesus.

This is extremely strange to me. I have been experiencing fear lately that has been unattributable to anything in particular. I had intentions for Jesus, his light, anything to begin drawing me away from this unaccountable fear. That intention was placed late last night, before the dream visions, because once again I felt fear lat in the night.

I have a problem with these 'Jesus' like dreams because it feels so egotistical to express them to someone else, though it does not feel that way to me... I am cutting it a little short because I need to help a friend move.

Gotto go,
Love ya
Chad

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September 2, 2011

Lucid on top of a house. Tried making a wall of light from horizon to horizon...my actions really started making things 'stormy'. Interesting that! Rain began pelting down, wind started really picking up.

I stretched my arms out, and in a meditative focus, told God I love God, and to guide my experience.

Movement. I was racing with the wind across landscapes. Large distances were covered. I saw a pyramid. I passed through its outer stones, into the interior. I became a highly focused awareness. My vision narrowed in on hieroglyphs. I cannot remember the exact glyphs.

Vision shifted to an artistic image. Two 'knights' with emblems of a green tree on the shoulder armor that shifted to a hawk or eagle, and back to tree, over and over. They were kneeling inside a cave, planting or digging up a rose vine, with one rose at the pinnacle of the vine, reaching straight towards the skies.

The scene dissolved and reformed, as if time had elapsed. The cave had 'collapsed', and the knights long gone. The rose vine still thrust into the sky, and all around, the land was broken.

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The Festival of lights( Hanukkah) starts at sunset tonight , with all that is going on it should be interesting what transpires up until the 16th sunset hf

hannuk

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I think I see where we are going.

Seems the original menorah has 7 branches.


"The menorah symbolized the ideal of universal enlightenment.

The seven lamps allude to the branches of human knowledge, represented by the six lamps inclined inwards towards, and symbolically guided by, the light of God represented by the central lamp. The menorah also symbolizes the creation in seven days, with the center light representing the Sabbath. It is also said to symbolize the burning bush as seen by Moses on Mount Horeb (Exodus 3).

The word 'menorah' has seven letters representing the seven lamps. According to Clement of Alexandria and Philo Judaeus, the seven lamps of the golden menorah represented the seven planets in this order: the Moon, Mercury, Venus, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn"


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Uhm, no, lol. Dealing with aggression via consensual agreement, dealing with fidelity issues by testing boundaries, things like that. I didn't say combine them, for Chrissake! LMAO!
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Sorry, I take things and run with them.One is always framed by it's opposite. As it delivers the most abject/objective vantage point. All that it is not is what other is.

Cheers, A festbock salud!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


Brea, as to the first bold: they already are and agreed.

Dion, as to the second:

we spend a lot of time talking about moving away from 'duality'... thinking of stuff as compared to a single 'oposite'.
and while i agree with u that a thing can be better understood when also contemplating what it is *not*, don't you think Christ's lessson (trinity over duality) and the growing understanding of the rainbow nature of the human personality (sex identity being just an example) should also teach that if we wish to go a step further we can compare a thing to system instead of 'things' instead of a singular 'thing'.

i guess i'm trying to say that it seems incomplete to balance an idea on only one other idea.

the singular lamniscate might be as imaginary as zero and infinity.

six fold geometry sujests itself to me.
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complexity is simpler sense when seen whole

i like that
 Quoting: aether


I wrote that exact thing yesterday to bobobibi

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He wouldn't talk the talk, without having already walked it. His knowledge would be experienced by himself, and it would be of such massive complexity, that it would become more patterned the more he decides to 'experience'. It would be similar to not being able to see patterns because you are too close to the complexity. Then, viewing the patterns from far away (greater complexity) the patterns become readily apparent. This would be his 'perception' of the human condition. Something like one of his 'tricks', as he would be able to see flaws in the pattern, and influence those areas...seed them.
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