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Whoa !!! Aether make sure your comfy before you watch this



"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. Ill meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

ENFJs are natural-born leaders, full of passion and charisma. Forming around two percent of the population, they are oftentimes our politicians, our coaches and our teachers, reaching out and inspiring others to achieve and to do good in the world. With a natural confidence that begets influence, ENFJs take a great deal of pride and joy in guiding others to work together to improve themselves and their community."


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Dudes...dudettes...the WHOLE paradigm you are attempting to explore is based on deciet and illusions...smoke and mirrors...from the Shamir, if you remember, so, this attempting to make sense of what is essentially a Babylonian construct is futile.


To understand the essentials of life, one must go beyond Solomon.
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 28293300


babylon like solomon are our younger beliefs
thus furthest from the source (reality)
this we know
what they formed their belief upon
is what we are following
through them literally

hi flaming sword rockon
 Quoting: aether


Hi Aether, the Babylonian conquest of time, space and matter is the veil.

No amount of piousness will penetrate this.

It is based on lies, murder and illusion.

Tamar, the Shamir and the Waterfowl are all watermark features of this, and it will not be until the lady and the birds are fully vindicated, and the sullied distortions be rectified by the TRUTH..will this world ever change.

I am sorry to say, that any and all endeavours to escape the "torus" are futile, unless through understanding...not of this esoteric and arcane crap, but an intuitive sense of the rhythms of life.

Merry Xmas all.
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For me it seems to be a representation of Pandora's 'Box'...this one however in 'cube' form.

If I am reading the directions correctly it seems one must push equally on all sides simultaneously to open as indicated by the arrows.

Instead of attempting to pull it apart, one must push in.

The perhaps it will pop open.
 Quoting: seer


this /\ takes us back to 2008 \/

Push & Pull
Tensegrity is the pattern that results when push and pull have a win-win relationship
with each other. The pull is continuous and the push is discontinuous. The continuous
pull is balanced by the discontinuous push producing an integrity of tension
compression.

Push and pull seem so common and ordinary in our experience of life that we humans
think little of these forces. Most of us assume they are simple opposites. In and out. Back
and forth. Force directed in one direction or its opposite.
------------------------->
<-------------------------
Fuller explained that these fundamental phenomena were not opposites, but compliments
that could always be found together. He further explained that push is divergent while
pull is convergent.

push and pull, tension and compression, never found apart.
Imagine if one could not only determine the structure of the aether quantum unit (APM)
[link to www.16pi2.com]

If we could marry non material dimensional quantum structure with functions (force, field) and if one could use tensegrity from the very first level of reality, the dimensional, all the way to the galactic, one would have almost completed the TOE.

The universe galactic web is a tensegrity structure.
The way the EU speaks of continuous electric field, distributed charge, is the first element of the tensegrity model.
With the stars as discontinuous compression members we have a tensegrity structure. What if we could also do that at the finest level?

The vortex is the structure of the dimensions of charge. That is the non material structure of the fourth dimension in APM and that creates function (field, force) (structure and function cannot be separate)

The fourth dimension of continuous tensional charge over layered by the discontinuous compressive of angular momentum forms matter (sub atomic particle) the structural engineering principle that applies is Tensegrity (continuous electric charge tension with discontiuous compression spin.)

Therefore Tensegrity is the structural engineering principle that creates material from non material

One will notice that all matter is structured by the principles of Tensegrity from every level of material reality.
That is because Tensegrity was the structural engineering principle that made matter from the non material dimensional structures!
 Quoting: observation


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Dudes...dudettes...the WHOLE paradigm you are attempting to explore is based on deciet and illusions...smoke and mirrors...from the Shamir, if you remember, so, this attempting to make sense of what is essentially a Babylonian construct is futile.


To understand the essentials of life, one must go beyond Solomon.
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 28293300


babylon like solomon are our younger beliefs
thus furthest from the source (reality)
this we know
what they formed their belief upon
is what we are following
through them literally

hi flaming sword rockon
 Quoting: aether


Hi Aether, the Babylonian conquest of time, space and matter is the veil.

No amount of piousness will penetrate this.

It is based on lies, murder and illusion.

Tamar, the Shamir and the Waterfowl are all watermark features of this, and it will not be until the lady and the birds are fully vindicated, and the sullied distortions be rectified by the TRUTH..will this world ever change.

I am sorry to say, that any and all endeavours to escape the "torus" are futile, unless through understanding...not of this esoteric and arcane crap, but an intuitive sense of the rhythms of life.

Merry Xmas all.
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 28293300


we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


i do possess opinions and in my experience
on risk assessment topic
i am ignored tounge
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some have barely begun to scratch the surface of reality,,

the purity of concentrate is beyond usual perception,,

snakes and ladders indeed,,


a source so adepted toward all eventual consignment,,

that the unscripted velocity is,, when realised,, vast indeed,,

so potentianally overwhelming are the finer details,, that they often overcome perceptual parameters,,

and yet the simplicity reverberates as an echo recognised inwardly,,

a calmness,, a stillness,, a waiting,,

112 1212 1111 333 2112,,

eveything is exactly as it should be,,


much love,,
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


i do possess opinions and in my experience
on risk assessment topic
i am ignored tounge
 Quoting: aether


Sorry man, was outside catching some air...fascinating subject.
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 Quoting: aether


i think the new u tube layout sucks and that is not the version of unkle i know
that song sucks to
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some have barely begun to scratch the surface of reality,,

the purity of concentrate is beyond usual perception,,

snakes and ladders indeed,,


a source so adepted toward all eventual consignment,,

that the unscripted velocity is,, when realised,, vast indeed,,

so potentianally overwhelming are the finer details,, that they often overcome perceptual parameters,,

and yet the simplicity reverberates as an echo recognised inwardly,,

a calmness,, a stillness,, a waiting,,

112 1212 1111 333 2112,,

eveything is exactly as it should be,,


much love,,
 Quoting: nobody 29282353


And yet,, others,, will make a complete mess,, by applying "sacred" cruise geometry to everything.

Like meaningless sets of numbers.


It all comes down to range and domain...don't it?


Anyway..I guess we shall soon find out.


I find I have a difficult time accepting the apologists for this current system.


It will fall...and all the false constructs,, will fall with it.

Anyway..I have work to do.

Ciao.
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has anyone else noticed/experienced that personal changes of far reaching importance have erupted in their lives pointing to an inevitable conclusion that whatever you believed you knew about personal future
you did not
cos i have
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


At least you know rewiring into empathy is an admitted firing sequence gap for you.
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has anyone else noticed/experienced that personal changes of far reaching importance have erupted in their lives pointing to an inevitable conclusion that whatever you believed you knew about personal future
you did not
cos i have
 Quoting: aether


i know how i got to this moment
looking back
all makes sense
the but
always a but
is
what happens as a consequence
and
normally i without thought do not think
on this topic
but
this time
i am
and not for negative sensations
the opposite
that is the strangeness
of this moment
the moment
when the next moment
could be so good
it scares
there
i said it
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


At least you know rewiring into empathy is an admitted firing sequence gap for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29336653


oh good point
hence i am ignored
you are right
i never looked that way

i do possess opinions and in my experience
on risk assessment topic
i am ignored
 Quoting: aether


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It's so quiet...you could hear a pin drop in here.

:Planetindrop:




Can someone explain to me the 4 4 4... bit Dion posted yesterday.

I have been thinking about the number '4' for the last few days and why I have a tendency to avoid it.

I will go out of my way, to 'glance over' '4's'...I find this curious.

I think it's the only number I leave out.

0,1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9

Yes.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


can you link it please
it does not ring a bell
 Quoting: aether




...


3 signs
3 sides (triangle)

4 signs altogether
 Quoting: aether


4.4.4.8
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


3d space and the cubic veil: 4.4.4 also the basis of dna and intrinsic informational function.

8 as the radiating subfunction: radiating from the center of the veil oppositionally (radiating polarity from center).

2 pyramidal structuces touching tip to tip within the cube.

It is the 3d x.

When spun, it is the circle.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


i was told once that the most basic structure, the core structure of energy was cubic.

i didn't believ it at the time, but the source was very credible. perhaps i'll have a change to querey him in the future.

more and more i think it may be true.

he said he had met humans who could *see* it!


*sigh*
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


At least you know rewiring into empathy is an admitted firing sequence gap for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29336653


oh good point
hence i am ignored
you are right
i never looked that way

i do possess opinions and in my experience
on risk assessment topic
i am ignored
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


and the good news is
if i become emphatic enough
whatever enough maybe
there will be nothing of me
to be ignored
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and the good news is
if i become emphatic enough
whatever enough maybe
there will be nothing of me
to be ignored
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the strange thing is
before i was born human
the topic empathy did not exist
not even in my imagination for there was no emotion to place it there
nothing to be emphatic about
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we came into the torus to talk because we know how to leave the torus at will
transmitting/translating what we know utilizing what is locally known, so it is understood, is what we are doing, because there exist sufficient local knowing to make it so

good news huh rockon

merry xmass
 Quoting: aether


remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


At least you know rewiring into empathy is an admitted firing sequence gap for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29336653


oh good point
hence i am ignored
you are right
i never looked that way
 Quoting: aether


Looked at that way, remoting lacking empathy equals voyeur.
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and the good news is
if i become emphatic enough
whatever enough maybe
there will be nothing of me
to be ignored
 Quoting: aether


the strange thing is
before i was born human
the topic empathy did not exist
not even in my imagination for there was no emotion to place it there
nothing to be emphatic about
 Quoting: aether


no excuse
but no experience of it being a reality emotion either
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remembering our universe is self aware
risk assessment is not my domain tounge
 Quoting: aether


At least you know rewiring into empathy is an admitted firing sequence gap for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29336653


oh good point
hence i am ignored
you are right
i never looked that way
 Quoting: aether


Looked at that way, remoting lacking empathy equals voyeur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29336653


depends on motive to remote
if motive does not fit
you do not remote
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anyone else but 8 saying that and i would likely not notice

Because what difference does it make if the money goes unpaid if the world ends.

The government is hedging bets.

Ominous.
 Quoting: 8 1504648


Thread: FiscalCliff won't be resolved until after the 21st

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At least you know rewiring into empathy is an admitted firing sequence gap for you.
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oh good point
hence i am ignored
you are right
i never looked that way
 Quoting: aether


Looked at that way, remoting lacking empathy equals voyeur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29336653


depends on motive to remote
if motive does not fit
you do not remote
 Quoting: aether


Empathy is not a programable variable to remoting. It is deliberately left out.

Do let us know that code though if you figure it out. It would denote progress to human.
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So you are pointing at this mythological deity as the source of all our suffering?


The AC was asking for real information I believe. Possibly something she could research about Lucifer. I believe she took your words as some kind of common knowledge about the subject. It isn't.

I wanted to make it clear that it was just your interpretation(pulled it out of thin air)...and tbh it's a pretty negative and slanted view.

When you use words such as "the sad truth" and follow it up with some cocksure statement, some people will take that to be some kind of statement backed up by facts.

Perhaps my language was a little salty...but honestly, at the time I wanted to discuss it with you in hopes of clearing up the fact that you were indeed just doing some kind of 'free flow' writing...Which I have no problem with, it's just the authoritative tone you used regarding a subject that can't possibly be known for sure.

It reminded me a bit of the role players on the Nobody threads...and how they just make stuff up out of thin air.
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fairly stated, Ray.

and guilty as charged, about the occasional 'cocksure' bit anyway.

*sardonic grin* we all have our little battles.

but i do not just make stuff up. i have deeply considered most of what i write about, even if the actual expression in the moment is 'fluid'.

and i admit to having gaps in my knowledge and usually welcome a polite "hey did you know...?". Don't let my confidence stop you or give you the idea that i wont listen.

Well, I was over aggressive in my original reply to you. So I apologize for that.

that being said, how do you propose that i 'back up' my statements? when we talk of a thing bearly belived in. muchless properly explored.

I require it. Most people do in fact. Except for the naive and gullible. Or people that just believe something that they 'feel' is right and it makes them feel good.

I have an issue with that kind of logic I guess.


its not like i can show you my data: it consists of days and days and days of hoovering up cyberspace, science and experience. years of observation and synthisis. and like most metaphysical (deep mind) research the proof is in the personal pudding.

Sure you can. Most people posting on here leave links or sources. It's not that hard. You're obviously computer and internet savvy.




instead of pointing to some culture that says that lucy is 'good' (that that i ever said he was not good) and then using that as some proof that i'm making shit up, why not pick an actual point in my argumant and tell mt how you see it diferent. i care much more about your personal ideas and expewrience than i do some dead cultures preistly ideas.

I was posting that source to show the opposite opinion of yours. That site has the same cocksure conviction that you do.

So who's right?

They are both kooky perspectives imo...Hell, they even know what Enki's favorite bands are...and his height and weight!


Here is a more conservative link:

Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition usually reveres Lucifer, not as the Devil, but as a rescuer or guiding spirit[1] or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.[2]

Luciferianism is identified by some people as an auxiliary of Satanism, due to the popular identification of Lucifer with Satan. Some Luciferians accept this identification or consider Lucifer the light bearer aspect of Satan.[1] Others reject it, arguing that Lucifer is a more positive ideal than Satan.
[quote/]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I'm not a Luciferian btw...Just giving a more mainline description of Lucifer.

so.

if you got a beef with my words. pick 'em out and show me where i done bad.

i been wrong way more den i been right.

I did in my original reply. I thought my "picking" was pretty thorough.

I can dissect and analyze it more to do some hyper picking if you want.

Also, it was just that post that I found faulty. Not your overall writings on the site.


bring it on, Bro

Oh...It's already been 'broughten'! ;)
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The Gods smile. Randomly changing IP. Personification.
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thankyou ac,,

your partially indemptively correct by assumption,,

this one is pleased that a smile was created in another,,



all perceptions are tangible,, as are all individaul external and internal shared prowess'es,,

however,, there exists no label with regards to anceint philosophy's being thus concluded,,

often the answers too any doubts,, lay within the questioning,,

and doubt is the most emotive self design of any seemingly pluasible innacuracy,,


thank you for your input,,


imaj-in-ative thought regression within such subtification often forces gently a futher wisdom,,


wisdom is born of experience,,


thanks again,,
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i think i will go for a walk
nice clear sky and cool air
we have another new moon this week
i don`t know but to me this past few weeks every combination of something seems to be occurring more times than it does normally
nothing is
peoples emotional sensation because of calendar location is the cause of there feeling like many events
see empathy
before i would never have noticed hence cared
now
i am going for a walk to distract myself from sensations that are not mine
nuts really
but true
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Dudes...dudettes...the WHOLE paradigm you are attempting to explore is based on deciet and illusions...smoke and mirrors...from the Shamir, if you remember, so, this attempting to make sense of what is essentially a Babylonian construct is futile.


To understand the essentials of life, one must go beyond Solomon.
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 28293300


babylon like solomon are our younger beliefs
thus furthest from the source (reality)
this we know
what they formed their belief upon
is what we are following
through them literally

hi flaming sword rockon
 Quoting: aether


Hi Aether, the Babylonian conquest of time, space and matter is the veil.

No amount of piousness will penetrate this.

It is based on lies, murder and illusion.

Tamar, the Shamir and the Waterfowl are all watermark features of this, and it will not be until the lady and the birds are fully vindicated, and the sullied distortions be rectified by the TRUTH..will this world ever change.

I am sorry to say, that any and all endeavours to escape the "torus" are futile, unless through understanding...not of this esoteric and arcane crap, but an intuitive sense of the rhythms of life.

Merry Xmas all.
 Quoting: Flaming Sword 28293300


well said and agreed.

i will say tho, that as much as i bash accepted science and detest the acedemic system, those nerds hve taught me a few 'rules' that have been quite usefull in my day to day working life and while i agree that they are mostly corse aproximations: they (math & quantitaevly expressed rules/relationships)

in the same way, the essoteric science are corse and largely incorrect, but if understood and guided by intuishion, they can be of service.

if for no other reason than to provide a thought matrix that these tenuous ideas can sit upon.

plus: it fun.

and it truly did change my life.
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can you link it please
it does not ring a bell
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4.4.4.8
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


3d space and the cubic veil: 4.4.4 also the basis of dna and intrinsic informational function.

8 as the radiating subfunction: radiating from the center of the veil oppositionally (radiating polarity from center).

2 pyramidal structuces touching tip to tip within the cube.

It is the 3d x.

When spun, it is the circle.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


i was told once that the most basic structure, the core structure of energy was cubic.

i didn't believ it at the time, but the source was very credible. perhaps i'll have a change to querey him in the future.

more and more i think it may be true.

he said he had met humans who could *see* it!


*sigh*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


Visualization is the key to conciousness. What folk like flaming sword are claiming is that the Babel paradigms created the constructs. No, they just created false relationships to the constructs to cut the cords of time and create three circles of false logic to encapsulate.

Everything is just fine, we just need to see the root relationships. They are entombed in your conciousness and your intuition is the pick and shovel to get at them.
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has anyone else noticed/experienced that personal changes of far reaching importance have erupted in their lives pointing to an inevitable conclusion that whatever you believed you knew about personal future
you did not
cos i have
 Quoting: aether


i know how i got to this moment
looking back
all makes sense
the but
always a but
is
what happens as a consequence
and
normally i without thought do not think
on this topic
but
this time
i am
and not for negative sensations
the opposite
that is the strangeness
of this moment
the moment
when the next moment
could be so good
it scares
there
i said it
 Quoting: aether


/listening


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