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if navigation seeks only the purpose of a rudder for reliance,,

then the flow of intention is not altered by nature,,

yet if the flow of intention is nature steered,,

the rudder becomes redundant by nature,,


as the tides draw so regardless,,

within the flow drawn indeed,,


source,,



much love,,
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What's with Sep's front page effort to expose all occult activity?
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You know, I'm not sure if that's a job best suited for a mason to carry out. ;)

coffee4
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


How about a carpenter?
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Or a fisherman?
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Don't leave out the shnitzelmaker.
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"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

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You know, I'm not sure if that's a job best suited for a mason to carry out. ;)

coffee4
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How about a carpenter?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28792938


Or a fisherman?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Don't leave out the shnitzelmaker.
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And master tequila chess player.
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How about a carpenter?
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Or a fisherman?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Don't leave out the shnitzelmaker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28792938


And master tequila chess player.
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In tequila chess there are no masters. Only survivors. ;)
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candlestick makers are important too,,


much love,,
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candlestick makers are important too,,


much love,,
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HEY! That's what my middle name means!
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if navigation seeks only the purpose of a rudder for reliance,,

then the flow of intention is not altered by nature,,

yet if the flow of intention is nature steered,,

the rudder becomes redundant by nature,,


as the tides draw so regardless,,

within the flow drawn indeed,,


source,,



much love,,
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We always have the zigzag of the tack.
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i can see bell shape rolling
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The 'bell' has been a theme..for me.

As I noticed the other day that a 'triangle' resembles a bell.

There is more as well.

:)




refract
 Quoting: Seer777


for the past hour from my spine is

"encouraging Boitatá and ether to ignite not fight"

repetitive sensation and nothing is popping up to disagree
not quick either
seems like a way of being for "us" which is people

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hey dion,,

holding a candle too a spiniker at 12 knots is of little significance,,

lest the importance of winning a race across the waves can be the mast above all depths anchored too blow the sail ahead,,

the tides without oar control the cabin,,

yet worse things happen at sea,,


sea above and sea below,,



much love,,
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 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


that`s the one i was remembering /\

so does this then

730cc


tie into this as well ??


onmymind2

hmm
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


if i remember in your original drawings you showed the process

triangle to the left , connected spheres to the right
indicating "they formed together"
was the impression

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rayofhope2

tounge
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


that`s the one i was remembering /\

so does this then

730cc


tie into this as well ??


onmymind2

hmm
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


if i remember in your original drawings you showed the process

triangle to the left , connected spheres to the right
indicating "they formed together"
was the impression

 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


Sorry Aether that I did not make that connection that day hf
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

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for the past hour from my spine is

"encouraging Boitatá and ether to ignite not fight"

repetitive sensation and nothing is popping up to disagree
not quick either
seems like a way of being for "us" which is people
 Quoting: aether


which is all about this
and it is tearful emotional

Every planetary body (including the Earth) is surrounded by its own gravitational field
 Quoting: observation

indigenous /\

Gravity decreases with altitude

If the Earth were a sphere of uniform density then gravity would decrease linearly to zero as one traveled in a straight line from the Earth's surface to its center
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

up or down reduces emotional contact with our indigenous emotional field /\

Boitatá is indigenous this: \/

Telluric current

A telluric current (from Latin "earth"), or Earth current, is an electric current which moves underground or through the sea. Telluric currents result from both natural causes and human activity, and the discrete currents interact in a complex pattern. The currents are extremely low frequency and travel over large areas at or near the surface of Earth.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

global electric circuit is this: \/

Atmospheric electricity

Atmospheric electricity is the regular diurnal variations of the Earth's atmospheric electromagnetic network or, more broadly, any planet's electrical system in its layer of gases. The Earth's surface, the atmosphere and the ionosphere, together are known as the global atmospheric electrical circuit. Atmospheric electricity is a multidisciplinary topic
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

we have discovered no one in authority on earth since the end of our golden age when this topic arose knows anything emotionally loving or practical concerning these matters
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These are natural timers in place sort of like an hour glass. The larger system of which we are apart no longer requires data from systems operating in this particular level of vibration of experiences. When this occurs a graduation process takes place as new concepts and systems will be birthed. The planet is currently in a readjustment process and aligned for transference from the sun which stands as the translator of specific codes or energy patterns to be fed to the planet from central sun the main power plant for our system.


Your brain’s slate is being wiped clean to be rewired with the new should you allow the process to take place. This transition is not for the faint of heart so do not be hard on yourself if you find that it is just too much. Dismantling programs thousands of years old can be torturous although one need only let go and allow or not allow.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Dismantling of the old codes and paradigms


its also the culmination of many cycles converging at the same time as well

640,000 104,000 25,920 as well as others

hmm wiped clean huh
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

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but the emotion soon passes because we know and we grow

wow

well done every one rockon
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but the emotion soon passes because we know and we grow

wow

well done every one rockon
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Well done to YOU. You seemed to have had quite a day.
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but the emotion soon passes because we know and we grow

wow

well done every one rockon
 Quoting: aether


Well done to YOU. You seemed to have had quite a day.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


love is doing it for all of us
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fairly stated, Ray.

and guilty as charged, about the occasional 'cocksure' bit anyway.

*sardonic grin* we all have our little battles.

but i do not just make stuff up. i have deeply considered most of what i write about, even if the actual expression in the moment is 'fluid'.

and i admit to having gaps in my knowledge and usually welcome a polite "hey did you know...?". Don't let my confidence stop you or give you the idea that i wont listen.

Well, I was over aggressive in my original reply to you. So I apologize for that.

that being said, how do you propose that i 'back up' my statements? when we talk of a thing bearly belived in. muchless properly explored.

I require it. Most people do in fact. Except for the naive and gullible. Or people that just believe something that they 'feel' is right and it makes them feel good.

I have an issue with that kind of logic I guess.


its not like i can show you my data: it consists of days and days and days of hoovering up cyberspace, science and experience. years of observation and synthisis. and like most metaphysical (deep mind) research the proof is in the personal pudding.

Sure you can. Most people posting on here leave links or sources. It's not that hard. You're obviously computer and internet savvy.




instead of pointing to some culture that says that lucy is 'good' (that that i ever said he was not good) and then using that as some proof that i'm making shit up, why not pick an actual point in my argumant and tell mt how you see it diferent. i care much more about your personal ideas and expewrience than i do some dead cultures preistly ideas.

I was posting that source to show the opposite opinion of yours. That site has the same cocksure conviction that you do.

So who's right?

They are both kooky perspectives imo...Hell, they even know what Enki's favorite bands are...and his height and weight!


Here is a more conservative link:

Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition usually reveres Lucifer, not as the Devil, but as a rescuer or guiding spirit[1] or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.[2]

Luciferianism is identified by some people as an auxiliary of Satanism, due to the popular identification of Lucifer with Satan. Some Luciferians accept this identification or consider Lucifer the light bearer aspect of Satan.[1] Others reject it, arguing that Lucifer is a more positive ideal than Satan.
[quote/]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I'm not a Luciferian btw...Just giving a more mainline description of Lucifer.

so.

if you got a beef with my words. pick 'em out and show me where i done bad.

i been wrong way more den i been right.

I did in my original reply. I thought my "picking" was pretty thorough.

I can dissect and analyze it more to do some hyper picking if you want.

Also, it was just that post that I found faulty. Not your overall writings on the site.


bring it on, Bro

Oh...It's already been 'broughten'! ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515


replies in red
 Quoting: Rayrayz


ah, the conversation continues: sweet.

i'll respond in more depth tomorrow morning when my mind functions in that special morning way...

/nod
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ugh: i hate long quotes.

you know? embedding your responce inside of my previous post makes a long discussion difficult to follow.

just sayin'


so.

"Or people that just believe something that they 'feel' is right and it makes them feel good.

I have an issue with that kind of logic I guess."


one should start at feeling and then logically progress. it is neither logical nor illogical to begin with feelings. logic is a process, a type of path... a means.

logic depends entirely on assumtions and only produces correct 'results' when all the variables are acounted for. for this reason, logic often leeds us astray, particulalrly when we are blind to more than half of the 'equation'.

if i had to choose feeling over logic, i'd go feeling without question. and the times i didn't i slammed mind first into false conclusions arrived at using impecible logic but based on an incorrect variable set.

you can either dispute my logic or my initial assumtions, but don't call me illogical when pointing at my assumtion set.

...

"Sure you can. Most people posting on here leave links or sources. It's not that hard."

This assumes that all of my ideas originate in cyberspace and are a result of reading someone else's ideas. Many of my ideas come from within and are based on a chaoitic data set of experience, observation, and somatic responce.

dispute my words on their own content rather than by their lack of a referance list. you are welcome to use another's words to do this if you like, but an idea is not automatically invalid simply because it is without precidence.

...

on to the actual subject:

"I was posting that source to show the opposite opinion of yours. That site has the same cocksure conviction that you do.

So who's right?

They are both kooky perspectives imo...Hell, they even know what Enki's favorite bands are...and his height and weight!


Here is a more conservative link:

Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition usually reveres Lucifer, not as the Devil, but as a rescuer or guiding spirit[1] or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.[2]

Luciferianism is identified by some people as an auxiliary of Satanism, due to the popular identification of Lucifer with Satan. Some Luciferians accept this identification or consider Lucifer the light bearer aspect of Satan.[1] Others reject it, arguing that Lucifer is a more positive ideal than Satan."



so you continue to speak using other's words. i would like to here *your* actual ideas, as i already mentioned.

as to the words above:
they don't actually *define* lucy, they just say he's a good guy and then say how some lucifaritans go with satasim and some don't: do we really care about this fact?

"venerate the essential charcteristics affixed to lucifer"

so what *are* these characteristics, in your mind?

/curious

and finally: the above referance does not actually dispute my words: i make no value judgements about lucy and speak of both possitive and negative aspects and of ballance.

there is plenty of 'reason' to venerate lucy and i spoke highly of many of his atributes.

but to call him God?

this is deeply misguided in my opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24542515



ugh: i hate long quotes.

you know? embedding your responce inside of my previous post makes a long discussion difficult to follow.


Well, try discussing something in realtime...You were online at the time but decided to wait until the next day to reply. I was away for a few days so it would have been the time to have a discussion then...



one should start at feeling and then logically progress. it is neither logical nor illogical to begin with feelings. logic is a process, a type of path... a means.

I take all information into account and use my intuition to come to a conclusion. I don't discount using intuition or 'feeling' but it's certainly not the best way to approach many subjects if you have no information to base it on.

and let's not let this drift into new age/metaphysical Candyland...The subject was your 'channeled' story of Lucifer.

If you want to have a broader conversation about my philosophy/world view then start a new thread so it doesn't clutter Aether's thread...Call it "breakfast with Ray" or something...lol


Having said that, I try to follow some general rules when sifting through information.

Here are a few:

1-Is there any evidence(other than 'channeled' feelings)
2-does it come from a trustworthy source
3-Is the research/information biased in any way or built upon a false foundation of beliefs, such as a person having strong religious beliefs or false delusions...and I don't just mean Christianity, Judaism, and Islam...I believe that the New age religion has people every bit as religious as the "big 3" followers are...but the overall message is less harmful and usually peaceful.






logic depends entirely on assumtions and only produces correct 'results' when all the variables are acounted for. for this reason, logic often leeds us astray, particulalrly when we are blind to more than half of the 'equation'.


Totally disagree.

Sure, using faulty logic leads us astray sometimes, but no where near as much as 'feelings' do. It's obviously very easy to manipulate peoples feelings to do your bidding. It's why the mindfuckers use emotive programming to manipulate us like a bunch of scared sheep.

What do you think propaganda and societal engineering is based on? The 'bad' guys feed of our 'feelings'.

If people used logic instead of running around like chickens with their heads cut off, we would be a much healthier society.

If we used our feelings as the basis for the foundation of our logic/critical thinking, we would be very easily manipulated and led astray...


if i had to choose feeling over logic, i'd go feeling without question. and the times i didn't i slammed mind first into false conclusions arrived at using impecible logic but based on an incorrect variable set.


Good luck with that...

so you continue to speak using other's words. i would like to here *your* actual ideas, as i already mentioned.

I used my own words and stated my opinion very clearly in my last post.

I will continue to leave links and information to outside sources when stating my opinion.


and finally: the above reference does not actually dispute my words: i make no value judgements about lucy and speak of both possitive and negative aspects and of ballance.

there is plenty of 'reason' to venerate lucy and i spoke highly of many of his atributes.

but to call him God?

this is deeply misguided in my opinion.



It seems you have made up some kind of imaginary character and named it Lucifer.

Might as well call it Gizmo or Fluffy. Why insist on calling it an actual religious/mythological deity?

It's a story you concocted using your imagination and hard-selling it as the truth.
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Sorry Aether that I did not make that connection that day hf
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it`s a beautiful translation and it is yours

i go warm and woozy when i see it, that is it`s sensation to me
not the meaning
that may not be for anyone but you
likely true hugs
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Sorry Aether that I did not make that connection that day hf
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it`s a beautiful translation and it is yours

i go warm and woozy when i see it, that is it`s sensation to me
not the meaning
that may not be for anyone but you
likely true hugs
 Quoting: aether


hugs that felt like a new beginning to me when I drew that as it came thru .. so many things transpired during that time and Yes it was as if I had been ignited hf
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

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"towards, drawn; irresistable"

like strings of smoke,
connecting us;
can you feel the pull
as your heart leaps?

~H
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but i am prompted to say this with a tone in my left ear

triangle = sun

circle on right is earth with cube/diamond etc. inside
magnetosphere is what is coming of the circle

so do we see the emotional information sequence between sun and earth

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"towards, drawn; irresistable"

like strings of smoke,
connecting us;
can you feel the pull
as your heart leaps?

~H
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awwwwwwwww
double hugs hugshugs
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but i am prompted to say this with a tone in my left ear

triangle = sun

circle on right is earth with cube/diamond etc. inside
magnetosphere is what is coming of the circle

so do we see the emotional information sequence between sun and earth
 Quoting: aether



Ignition .... Love/Electro/Magnetism

?
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
"Somewhere beyond our ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing,
there is a Garden , The Balance. I’ll meet you there."


ENFJ-A " the Protagonist"

“The heart and mind must be brought into perfect equilibrium before true thinking or true spirituality can be attained. The highest function of the mind is reason; the highest function of the heart is intuition, a sensing process not necessitating the normal working of the mind.”

~Manly P. Hall

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The eternal return....

The twilight of the gods
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

snake and dragon theme in this picture
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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How is earth and sun going to naturaly balance that tone...vibration?

The moon, is he gonna help?
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The eternal return....

The twilight of the gods
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

snake and dragon theme in this picture
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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wondering if this means the archetypes are fighting the snakes and dragons where there is earthquakes/eruptions etc...
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What would you say if I told the sun is driven by she and the moon by he?


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