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M. Night Shyamalan has such huge potential to be something incredible. But, he always falls short. Perhaps if he had other writers helping him, he could pull it off.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


See I get something out of some of his movie's guess it depend on where your soul's point of reference is at the time. Some are not even close to being able to dive into his movies. Its like they are based on plato's cave in a sense to me ... I see into them deeply
confrontation of your subconscious fears
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I can be a very hard ass critique. That is the writer coming out in me. I can instantly see plot flaws, subject misdirection. Bad editing. etc. I'm not saying he has those flaws.

The flaw he has is forcing the ending, instead of flowing with a conclusion. And, he has a very bad tendency to not use logic when logic is needed.

Overall, I do enjoy the guy's films immensely. But, by the end of the movie, sometimes he doesn't pull it off and it is disappointing because of so much potential.
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why do you find yourself stumped at His ending, SS you know how vital visualization is in our holographic reality you can re~write fill in with your own mind what You need to be realized in any story that is tele~vised or suggested.
Any thought or story is a mere seed of a suggestion for that soul to pick up on and sort out the frequencies of that seed. How will you water it and what kind of music is it going to make in the Now ??
hmm
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That doesn't make every movie good, or every story good. Just because it may be a seed.

I have written short stories and research papers, and have been working on 2 novels. It is my opinion that he makes bad movies sometimes.

Have you seen Killer Clowns from Outer Space? Is that movie good because of planting seeds? No, its just a bad movie.

Bad writing, in my opinion, can make a really good movie, turn out to be really bad.

I think we are getting off base with this. You obviously enjoy M. Night Shyamalan movies. I do not, except for 2 and 1/2 of them. It is not a matter of looking at the deeper meanings so much as the bad writing. Again, though, that is an opinion of mine. It is really quite simple.

Do I like the Twilight movies? No. I have gotten so disgusted with half-ass writing and directors making movies for the dumbed down masses, that I hardly even watch anything today. Not even TV.

Actually, the pinnacle of an example to all this is the Star Wars movies. Star Wars I was the biggest piece of shit I have ever witnessed in screen writing and story. Even though it had nearly an unlimited budget.

Simple. My opinion of a bad movie may be different from yours. Nothing deep or mysterious about it, just different flavors for different folks.

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My opinion of a bad movie may be different from yours. Nothing deep or mysterious about it, just different flavors for different folks.

grinning
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All is well, we are All entitled to who what how within our own beliefs

hugs hf

It's what makes You , You

I respect all there is to you SS , have learned much in your musings
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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My opinion of a bad movie may be different from yours. Nothing deep or mysterious about it, just different flavors for different folks.

grinning
 Quoting: Septenary Man


All is well, we are All entitled to who what how within our own beliefs

hugs hf

It's what makes You , You

I respect all there is to you SS , have learned much in your musings
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Trust me Fringe, that feeling is wholly mutual.

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Hey Fringe, well I have been cold few a few weeks, but recently I have been nice and comfortably warm, and now Im hot and my hands are tingling, like you said more my right :)
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hf

Thread: Chochmas Yad - Ancient Jewish Palmistry< Your Hands are Spiritually Important>They are energy portals
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really interesting link thanks,
your book "Scientific Hand Reading" is very old x
reading pdf version ..they mention the currents in the hands, and it reminded me why it is so wonderful to direct energy into the hands and then give reflexology/massage to the feet. It can be amazing touching current map of the body imprinted on hands and feet, it can be electrifying!
lol I've got a good upward pointing triangle under my ring finger, lol, don't know what it means yet though..im still reading!
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Off to do some work hf

enjoy your day everyone hugs
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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Me too. Just cleaned the kitchen. Off to something else.
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Interesting story to relay perhaps...regarding my confusion regarding foresight or manifestation.


One week ago yesterday I was standing outside the Holiday Market. It was bitter cold outside and I suddenly recalled a memory.

The memory was from some years ago when the heater in my brothers car went out. Instead of fixing it quickly he decided to just ride it out.

I then got this image of my brother driving down the road, bundled up inside a freezing cold car.

Being cold myself at the time of recall, I thought to myself, wow, that would stink. Suddenly being thankful for a functioning heater.


Last night as I was driving to my friends house, I noticed that I was still cold. Reaching up to 'feel the heat' I noted it was cold.

I thought, you have got to be kidding"


sigh


So, I am at my friends house and tell her of this occurance. She says, "that's funny you say that, as I think the heat is going out in my car too."


So I think to myself and say, "What is this? The power of attraction? If it is, then when I get back into my vehicle tomorrow the heat will work perfectly."


Sho nuf.

cool2

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Ha I was looking at the electric map of the whole body imprinted on the feet..why did that stick, now I know why..its the homunculus!..that was the link!
After all I keep being directed to look at this scenario of a geometric homunculus munching away :) Seems like something I should be focusing on.
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noticing events awaiting to happen before they happen is pre cognition
why you are noticing events awaiting to happen before they happen is between you and all that is not you
you both know it is happening and you both possess motive in it happen

the additional confirmation from your friends experience prompts you to think more on the topic that already occupied your thought from experience
your heater not working
the way you got to thinking of heater not working.....

oh

no
bit more than that tounge

what you are experiencing (max volume) is how we awoke this morning whistle

did we do it because we knew
did it know what we would do

win win

/z\
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


"What is this? The power of attraction?
 Quoting: seer


well in a way
yes
depends how you wish to describe starting conversation rofl
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"If we are going to survive this, you must realize that fear is not real. It is a product of thoughts you create. Now, do not misunderstand me; danger is very real. But fear is a choice.
"Do you know where we are?
"This...is Earth."

(from the movie: After Earth)
 Quoting: Septenary Man


hollywood says all thing on earth, that are not human, have evolved to kill human

i wonder why they provide that message to support the quote?
 Quoting: aether


What I got out of it, was that humans are the enemy to Earth. And, in the future, since humans were killing everything on Earth and destroying, nature began evolving to kill humans...evolving to get rid of the threat.

At some point in the future, nature succeeded and humans were forced to leave Earth.

Then, when this character and son crash landed on Earth, the evolution was complete.

Even though it is Hollywood, M. Night Shyamalan is a HORRIBLE screen writer, in as far as the deeper thoughts.

Hopefully, he has gotten some help on this one, or it will probably be another over-budget film written for the masses, instead of for intelligence.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Luckily, We know better, As you can only be an enemy to self. As a movie cannot be based on a twist, unless, maybe, it has the word Oliver in it's title.

The art of film making is knowing how time and sequence are skewed along with perspective. Everything speaks of the veils of parts as organs.
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noticing events awaiting to happen before they happen is pre cognition
why you are noticing events awaiting to happen before they happen is between you and all that is not you
you both know it is happening and you both possess motive in it happen

the additional confirmation from your friends experience prompts you to think more on the topic that already occupied your thought from experience
your heater not working
the way you got to thinking of heater not working.....

oh

no
bit more than that tounge

what you are experiencing (max volume) is how we awoke this morning whistle

did we do it because we knew
did it know what we would do

win win

/z\
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether




"What is this? The power of attraction?
 Quoting: seer


well in a way
yes
depends how you wish to describe starting conversation rofl
 Quoting: aether



:)

Thanks aether.

Why would 'all that is not me' find a random event like a heater going out, to be something to 'foresee'?

Could 'all that is not me' have sense of humor?

Was it foreseen or did I manifest it?

Because it seems to be working now...at least on the way here, that is.

hmm
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Interesting story to relay perhaps...regarding my confusion regarding foresight or manifestation.


One week ago yesterday I was standing outside the Holiday Market. It was bitter cold outside and I suddenly recalled a memory.

The memory was from some years ago when the heater in my brothers car went out. Instead of fixing it quickly he decided to just ride it out.

I then got this image of my brother driving down the road, bundled up inside a freezing cold car.

Being cold myself at the time of recall, I thought to myself, wow, that would stink. Suddenly being thankful for a functioning heater.


Last night as I was driving to my friends house, I noticed that I was still cold. Reaching up to 'feel the heat' I noted it was cold.

I thought, you have got to be kidding"


sigh


So, I am at my friends house and tell her of this occurance. She says, "that's funny you say that, as I think the heat is going out in my car too."


So I think to myself and say, "What is this? The power of attraction? If it is, then when I get back into my vehicle tomorrow the heat will work perfectly."


Sho nuf.

cool2
 Quoting: Seer777


Hi Seer hf

could this mean that force of attraction can work back in time, entanglement?
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:)

Thanks aether.

Why would 'all that is not me' find a random event like a heater going out, to be something to 'foresee'?

Could 'all that is not me' have sense of humor?

Was it foreseen or did I manifest it?

Because it seems to be working now...at least on the way here, that is.

hmm
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well you both pick you topics and nothing knows you like the 2 of you do tounge
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Browsing through some old threads:

Thread: The FLUFFY MAGNETIC RIBBON NEMESIS of the PLASMA UNIVERSE (Page 29)
the gift of intelligence is to match the bias of it`s environment. balance is obtained by awareness of the cause of all effects...from that moment balance as imagined by human kind ceases to exist.

humankind have only imagined balance how the imagine it is arrived at...never correct....so balance at this moment does not translate for humankind.

there is an explaination within human history.

the golden age is remembered by every culure as the time when humanity was peaceful within it`s self and it`s environment.

our ancestors concious/personalities were living within a different pulsed (waves} environment to the one that exists today.

that`s okay...stop using balance and insert word peaceful...better visuals...same effect

also stop using the word wave and insert the word pulse with no exception...better visuals and more accurate

human archetype for wave incorrect...it is only a pulse and was never a wave...wave is the name of a shape humankind attribute to a pulse...good word for a shape...says fuck all about purpose of the shape

and purpose...frequency (speed) and pressure (force) of the pulses = information.

our ancestors conscious/personalities responded to the pulses of all things known and affecting them in coherence (understanding) therefore lived idylic, as judged by todays quality of life.

following the catastrophic departure of their golden age environment humankind were confronted and, to this day, subjected only pulses (waves) of unkown source ( cause) and unknown content/feelings (effects)
 Quoting: field


A declining of understanding after the Golden Age...or a detoriating of understanding...frequency and pressure environment of solar system receded...therefore information receded...purpose becomes convoluted...

ancestors were not only used to coherence with universal information, but were submerged in it during the Golden Age, and so were able to naturally live in the idylic...then, the age of myths came and went as energetic frequency/pressure departed...frequency/pressure is finally increasing, bringing back with it universal information...naturally...this will bring back the knowledge of the source that departed and was lost, just as the higher frequency/pressure energies departed and were lost at the close of the Golden Age...

correct?
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it was a completly different signal. earth was in geostatic orbit and encased within the influence and effects of it`s host/sun

there is no comparison to before and after because the pulses/language of nature altered

humankind was and is spoken to (pulsed) in languages that did not exist within the structure of earths golden age environment therefore everything, including humans, functions unlike our ancient ancestors did.

both are natural environments but both are completly different

The memory of the cataclysms was erased, not because of lack of written traditions, but because of some characteristic process that later caused entire nations, together with their literate men, to read into these traditions allegories or metaphors where actually cosmic disturbances were clearly described.
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OK, understand to a certain level...gaps appear in what you are saying...so, questions evolve...

At this time, do we (as in any part of humankind) know the altercation that took place in the pulses/language?...my answer is 'yes' otherwise it would not be known as an altercation, it would be known as an unknown...altercation is the effect...if it is known as an effect, then it is known what it was prior...i understand discrepancies might crop up, but general understanding prior to altercation must be 'known'...at least to a certain extent...otherwise altercation would not be understood to have taken place.

Geostatic orbit = Golden Age...understood...and for various obvious and not-so obvious reasons...

Also, altercation in sun/host must have taken place... Separation (I'll have to read the correct historic process) of Sun and Saturn (don't know the history of this, but I KNOW this is what you are referring to) of bodies took place...thus changing/altering frequency/pulses, etc...

both are natural environments but both are completly different...and, of course, when this is the case, humankind will read/understand the past occurrences either completely wrong...extremely Distorted...the age of myths...

What I would like to know...heh heh...is, in specificity, as this is known to you charge, the actual knowledge contained in this statement: but because of some characteristic process...
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At this time, do we (as in any part of humankind) know the altercation that took place in the pulses/language?...my answer is 'yes' otherwise it would not be known as an altercation, it would be known as an unknown...altercation is the effect...if it is known as an effect, then it is known what it was prior...i understand discrepancies might crop up, but general understanding prior to altercation must be 'known'...at least to a certain extent...otherwise altercation would not be understood to have taken place.

it is the most sensitive memory humankind possess for two reasons:

the horror/trauma of it

all faiths/beliefs are sustained and maintained for the specific purpose of shielding humankind from the effects of the memory
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it is the most sensitive memory humankind possess for two reasons:

the horror/trauma of it

all faiths/beliefs are sustained and maintained for the specific purpose of shielding humankind from the effects of the memory



we were separated...locked out...disconnected. That is the horror/trauma, field...isn't it? After all these months, I think I figured that out (in very general terms albeit).

Holy shit! they knew that this was coming before it happened! They had to, they were in coherence with the universe...first, the horror of knowing what was coming, NOT EVEN ABLE TO IMAGINE THE HORROR BECAUSE IT HAD YET TO EXIST IN THEIR REALITY, and the trauma that ensued...

...I can't imagine...it would be a feeling of being cast out...the fallen...

...We are not losing this time around...they lost their souls....can't explain now. The soul is right here part of us, but we don't know IT. They knew their soul, and knew they were going to forget...

...No wonder jesus wept...he knew...he did not judge, because he knew what was lost...god...this answers so much
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The Kolbrin. (Egyptian Great Book)
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CHAPTER THREE
THE DESTRUCTION AND RE-CREATION



The wrath of the sky-monster was loosed in the Heavens. It lashed about in flaming fury, roaring like a
thousand thunders; it poured down fiery destruction amid a welter of thick black blood. So awesome was the
fearfully aspected thing that the memory mercifully departed from man, his thoughts were smothered under a
cloud of forgetfulness.



They crept out from caves and came down from the mountainsides. Their eyes were wild and their limbs trembled, their bodies shook and their tongues lacked control. Their faces were twisted and the skin hung loose on their bones.

They were as maddened wild beasts driven into an enclosure before flames; they knew no law, being deprived of all the wisdom they once had and those who had guided them were gone.
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hf
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Does Il Noumeno mean anything to anyone: [link to translate.google.ca]


essentially, It is that which is being patterned locally to create non local sight. Both physical essence and concious process.

As per likely why the cloister is of the strictest kind.
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whoa that is a memory you have both resurfaced
i enjoyed being field , i was surprised i could be field as i had never imagined what being field is like
but
thinking about it i was a softer me as field and at the time, not being aether was therapeutic to my senses
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whoa that is a memory you have both resurfaced
i enjoyed being field , i was surprised i could be field as i had never imagined what being field is like
but
thinking about it i was a softer me as field and at the time, not being aether was therapeutic to my senses
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It can be anything until enwrapped in perspectives point. Why acolytes must envision a sphere to all choice. As once sphere collapses to radian. The radian is entrapped within a causal sphere of specific mind.
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whoa that is a memory you have both resurfaced
i enjoyed being field , i was surprised i could be field as i had never imagined what being field is like
but
thinking about it i was a softer me as field and at the time, not being aether was therapeutic to my senses
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actually that is a sadness recall, my own sadness
good one to never forget as it works miracles within it`s own way and is a way to understand what i did not understand

now it possess the texture of kind sadness
seeing the true motive changes the feeling of the experience
kindness wrapped in sadness of my own making because i never saw kindness when it staring me in my face
that is the reason for the sadness
my own error made it so
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whoa that is a memory you have both resurfaced
i enjoyed being field , i was surprised i could be field as i had never imagined what being field is like
but
thinking about it i was a softer me as field and at the time, not being aether was therapeutic to my senses
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actually that is a sadness recall, my own sadness
good one to never forget as it works miracles within it`s own way and is a way to understand what i did not understand

now it possess the texture of kind sadness
seeing the true motive changes the feeling of the experience
kindness wrapped in sadness of my own making because i never saw kindness when it staring me in my face
that is the reason for the sadness
my own error made it so
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see the harm you can do when you don`t see what is there
i do
sometimes when it is to late
for the harm i can cause because i don`t see
nuts really
but
you only know when you know
and you find out by finding out
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whoa that is a memory you have both resurfaced
i enjoyed being field , i was surprised i could be field as i had never imagined what being field is like
but
thinking about it i was a softer me as field and at the time, not being aether was therapeutic to my senses
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It can be anything until enwrapped in perspectives point. Why acolytes must envision a sphere to all choice. As once sphere collapses to radian. The radian is entrapped within a causal sphere of specific mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


hi dion
yes
i drifted way off topic then

back now tounge
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whoa that is a memory you have both resurfaced
i enjoyed being field , i was surprised i could be field as i had never imagined what being field is like
but
thinking about it i was a softer me as field and at the time, not being aether was therapeutic to my senses
 Quoting: aether


It can be anything until enwrapped in perspectives point. Why acolytes must envision a sphere to all choice. As once sphere collapses to radian. The radian is entrapped within a causal sphere of specific mind.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus


hi dion
yes
i drifted way off topic then

back now tounge
 Quoting: aether


But that is the point of those 'shocking' moments where you leap out of skin to become aware. It happens less and less as we become jaded and cyclical becoming programmed self fulfilling prophecies.
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But that is the point of those 'shocking' moments where you leap out of skin to become aware. It happens less and less as we become jaded and cyclical becoming programmed self fulfilling prophecies.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus



Which is ever the danger.

Hence my query.


Hope your move is moving along nicely.

:)


hf
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Come on! Give me something... Damn, this is going to get addictive...
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hahaha......sorry sikscent....it`s an example i used within the context of my post, i did not mean to wind you up ....although i confirm there is information within information in most of my word sequences.... and... to date .... you got all ...including that time....and you reply in a manner.... leaving no doubt.... you also understood the information... processed it and... are able to return your own accurate translation.... and.... frequently build upon it... and... send back more information than you received....proving..... it can not be luck or coincedence so ..........onward and upward
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rockon
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Come on! Give me something... Damn, this is going to get addictive...
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hahaha......sorry sikscent....it`s an example i used within the context of my post, i did not mean to wind you up ....although i confirm there is information within information in most of my word sequences.... and... to date .... you got all ...including that time....and you reply in a manner.... leaving no doubt.... you also understood the information... processed it and... are able to return your own accurate translation.... and.... frequently build upon it... and... send back more information than you received....proving..... it can not be luck or coincedence so ..........onward and upward
 Quoting: aether 950452


rockon
 Quoting: Septenary Man


blink

That appears to be the 'AC who talks with lots of dots'.

I didn't realize he had been around so long.


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1 Heart
2 Halves
4 Chambers

the most efficient thermodynamic generator on the planet :)

hf
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4 lobes of the liver comes to mind. Note the liver's regenerative capacity. Why? Where else? How? As above so below - ...


Also could the heart toroid field provide physical lift (anti-gravity effect.) I noticed something with this recently while in a pose.
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But that is the point of those 'shocking' moments where you leap out of skin to become aware. It happens less and less as we become jaded and cyclical becoming programmed self fulfilling prophecies.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus



Which is ever the danger.

Hence my query.


Hope your move is moving along nicely.

:)


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


good point
leads to tolerance of shock of a particular emotional type (topic sensitive)
and we all experience that is our present globalized state to one degree or another

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aether (OP)

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12/16/2012 03:18 PM

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Re: X Marks the Spot
Come on! Give me something... Damn, this is going to get addictive...
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hahaha......sorry sikscent....it`s an example i used within the context of my post, i did not mean to wind you up ....although i confirm there is information within information in most of my word sequences.... and... to date .... you got all ...including that time....and you reply in a manner.... leaving no doubt.... you also understood the information... processed it and... are able to return your own accurate translation.... and.... frequently build upon it... and... send back more information than you received....proving..... it can not be luck or coincedence so ..........onward and upward
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rockon
 Quoting: Septenary Man


blink

That appears to be the 'AC who talks with lots of dots'.

I didn't realize he had been around so long.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


no
i see that ac
i wrote like that for a while because i was in the mood to
2010 only for a few months
similar to when i only wrote in rhyme for several months in late 2009
mood related (mine)

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12/16/2012 03:22 PM

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But that is the point of those 'shocking' moments where you leap out of skin to become aware. It happens less and less as we become jaded and cyclical becoming programmed self fulfilling prophecies.
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Which is ever the danger.

Hence my query.


Hope your move is moving along nicely.

:)


hf
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Thankfully, it's garbage and loose tchotchke detail. It appears I've torn an adductor on my hip and it's a shocking reminder every time I stoop to get something, just call me gimpy fiddlesticks.

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