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And that is why i am exasperating what i know, so i can find what i didnt know, i knew
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oh interesting. so your trying to find the essence or the 'flower'?
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Sometimes a circle looks like a spiral, a flower, a door, a wave, a frequency and even a life [DNA]. It is only in added dimension that it can be seen properly.

Once all that is known is cast, all that is not known can be rememberd as knew.

The mind remembers an imagined past and creates an imagined present based off the images it imagines remembersering, the future is created in the transition

I attempt to journey beyond that, box.


0
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Are you talking about tearing the veil? If the bible prophecies are even true, only the two witnesses can do that, imo
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idk if this helps or not, but have you looked inside the 0?


(was going to post that earlier but didn't)

That was in that egyptian book, aether...remember(I think you read it). I didn't get to finish it because of what happeneddamned but there was one part I remember about meditating, crap I can't remember it exactly, arg!
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[link to www.amazon.co.uk]
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yeah that book, I won't touch it with a ten foot pole, lol
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don`t turn your back on it lmao hugs
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oh no you didn't! lol Is that british humorrofl
Can laugh now, but wasmonster
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oh no you didn't! lol Is that british humorrofl
Can laugh now, but wasmonster
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brit humor at it`s finest
if you never said
i could never have known
and i know you can laugh now about it
because your are a lovely strong personality
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oh no you didn't! lol Is that british humorrofl
Can laugh now, but wasmonster
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brit humor at it`s finest
if you never said
i could never have known
and i know you can laugh now about it
because your are a lovely strong personality
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hugschuckle
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You do understand that computers only calculate on and do not calculate off's. The systematically process only 1's.

Just a reminder.

0
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No, 0 is always a placeholder. It by definition is the inbetween place: transition.
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So you are saying computers calculate transition.



How transition related to potential?
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Potently.
The distance between any two points is infinite if you are doing it right.
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Traditions of Science
Dec 18, 2012

Science and folk tradition are supposed to be strictly separate domains of knowledge, but in practice they often shade into each other.

The image shown above right attempts to map the entire visible universe. The galaxies tend to collect into vast sheets and superclusters of galaxies surrounding large voids giving the universe a cellular appearance.

Since the Enlightenment, people have made a fairly rigid distinction between ideas about the cosmos as formulated by individual thinkers, on a rational basis, and those as expressed collectively by entire peoples, typically rooted in folk memory. The former are labelled science, theory of nature or cosmology, the latter traditional cosmology or mythology. The theoretical difference between scientific and traditional paradigms of the cosmos certainly cannot be overemphasised.

Whereas the former continuously reinvent themselves in response to the latest insights, the latter are conservative by nature. The former fundamentally look forward as they evolve, the latter look backward as they decay. And whereas the former do not tolerate logical inconsistencies, the latter happily admit them.

Nevertheless, it is equally paramount to recognise the ultimate continuity between concepts that circulate between traditional lore and science. The collection of ideas about the cosmos, whether scholarly or popular, deserves a single denominator, as the same subject matter is involved. With the possible exception of cosmovision, an expression thriving especially in the Spanish-speaking world, cosmology really presents itself as the most suitable term for any sets of ideas about the world.................
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These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty.".
........................
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Thread: The Gospel of Thomas. An instruction booklet on spiritual enlightenment.

makes sense to me the way it starts
have not read further tounge
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5. Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you.

For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. [And there is nothing buried that will not be raised.]"

6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."

7. Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."
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he is describing altered field state (logos)
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15. Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father."
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non human origin origin /z\ tounge

18. The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come?"

Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."



19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being.
 Quoting: observation


rebirth process /z\

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
 Quoting: observation


this is what we are doing /z\ (singular effect)

Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted.

But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."
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non human origin people are the rebirthers (so far) /z\

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oh
now we see the conflict between what enoch says and jesus says

on the topic non human origin tounge
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I find the Gospel of Thomas (never made the Bible due to bureacracry) instructive in this regard;

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Just as the poverty of chemicals that allows our bodies to hold a conciousness, is it possible that equally impoverished bodies can likewise hold a conciousness?

Take the brain for example. What holds the conciousness is a multifaceted interaction of electricity and magnetic fields. Could a complex electrical multifaceted structure like a galaxy likewise hold a consciousness? Could a universe hold a conciousness? And just as you think to move your arm and it happens could an interconnected unviverse do likewise?

The recepticles are equally absurd in the final analysis of holding a conciousness. What they share is complex interacting magnetic fields and electricity.

For me the rainbow of theologies simply represent snippets of a much larger puzzle. One prophet picks up on a single snippet and decides it represents the whole and complete
message of God. When in reality they have a puzzle piece to a much larger picture. Each theology condeming to the death every other theology, never realizing the entire message they all carry when they converge.

I know there is something larger than me out there, where I do not know, but I have clues as to how to find it in the galaxy around us. The electric universe around us.

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Flight into Egypt
The flight into Egypt is a biblical event described in the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:13-23), in which Joseph fled to Egypt with his wife Mary and infant son Jesus after a visit by Magi because they learn that King Herod intends to kill the infants of that area.

Matthew 2:13 is the thirteenth verse

And when they were departed, behold,
the angel of the Lord appeareth to
Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and
take the young child and his mother,
and flee into Egypt, and be thou there
until I bring thee word: for Herod will
seek the young child to destroy him.
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The Magi are popularly referred to as wise men and kings. The word magi is the plural of Latin magus, borrowed from Greek magos, , as used in the original Greek text of the Gospel of Matthew. Greek magos itself is derived from Old Persian from the Avestan i.e. the religious caste into which Zoroaster was born,

The date of Zoroaster, i.e., the date of composition of the Old Avestan gathas, is unknown. Scholarly mainstream opinion mostly places him near the 11th or 10th century BCE, but dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and 6th centuries BCE

the condition for Free Will, which is arguably Zoroaster's greatest contribution to religious philosophy.

Herod I or Herod the Great (born 73 or 74 BCE, died 4 BCE was a Roman client king of Judea

Client state is one of several terms used to describe the subordination of one state to a more powerful state in international affairs

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Historically, crucifixion was nothing special; Romans executed hundreds of thousands this way. What is special about Jesus is his message to the mankind – about love, compassion, forgiveness, tolerance and peace.

I’m an Agnostic yet I deeply appreciate Jesus teachings and am at least trying to live by them – without expecting any reward.

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well not really, the whole topic has deeper awareness

i`ll place the following in the blonde moment box

you remember that our younger but ancient to us ancestors cultures inherited a system of monuments consisting of mounts and ley lines

the roman empire, as all our young cultures formed it`s own beliefs expressed in art, architecture, symbolism etc. on the mounts and over the ley lines (straight roads) to impose their way

the romans were more aware than us today, being nearer to the time the awareness of this information was expressed within our egyptian culture and they were vigilant for any signs of ancient awareness of this inherited but unknown to them purpose, use of the system

our older ancestors interaction with non material energy (magic) associated with the system was known to include unusual use of hands and feet by those whom utilized this magic ability

today that is called tensegrity in physics (invisible architecture} and the practice still manifests within many cultures

Tensegrity is the name given to the modern version of the Magical Passes and the fluid and energetically efficient way of being—the path with heart

the roman empire was very wary of any person expressing signs that they were of our very ancient ancestors nature so anyone utilizing mounts (sacred sites) to express themselves and magical passes (miracles to the unaware) were a worry to the empire as without exception, the lifestyle expressed by our ancient ancestor was quite different to the one imposed by the empire

the empire placed those whom expressed ancient ancestor awareness on crosses either along the roads (ley lines) or on the mounts (sacred sites) with nails in their feet and hands as a warning to all that the empire controlled the magic and no other would be tolerated
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"In extra dimensions, a black hole behaves like a fluid and a solid at the same time, and flexing the solid form may generate an electric field."
Don't flex the solid form TOO much, or you will break the electric field lines!
 Quoting: observation


tensegrity joke regarding our currently materialistic minded authorities /z\

just in some very strange, incomprehensible language only those in the highest echelons of the scientific establishment can understand.

But at least it makes for some good jokes.
 Quoting: observation


like our belief leadership
maintained a "language" only they believed is true because no one knew true so anything would do

that has ended

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isn't everything a matter of multiverse interpretation?

which really doesn't discount anything as a probability.
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i would think that multiverse strengthens tensegrity
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Can you explain this, aether?

the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die

How did the new discoveries (and what were the discoveries) come to the point that they manifested a realization that it is not safe to die? Why is it not safe to die? Is this a new occurrence, that some changes came along that suddenly made them think it is not safe to die? Or has it always existed (it not being safe to die) they have just discovered it.

This is a massive convergence. This is the grandest convergence, IMO, in as far as 'irrevocably' changing the human condition if this information were divulged to the populace.

And, what 'type' of person would have what type of information they need to resolve this sudden fear of death?

This is a fascinating convergence...

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brilliant!!
and lovely cheer

they have possessed the information that lead to their very recent conclusion for over 100 years but it has taken since then to test, experiment, discover etc.etc. and finally reach their conclusion
they know enough to know what they do not know
but
they have yet to arrange what they know into order that fits desire
dieing correctly
that is the reason, the only reason, for the change of tone and direction of investigation within our occult masters which we have updated in this thread
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cheer

OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said.

THIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet.

Common understanding is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly.

Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly?
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OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said.

THIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet.

It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly.

Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly?
 Quoting: sept


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because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing......
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isn't everything a matter of multiverse interpretation?

which really doesn't discount anything as a probability.
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good morning

it is multi dimensional

is that multiverse?

there is only on material dimension
there are multi non material dimensions

does that fit your visual of multiverse?
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isn't everything a matter of multiverse interpretation?

which really doesn't discount anything as a probability.
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good morning

it is multi dimensional

is that multiverse?

there is only on material dimension
there are multi non material dimensions

does that fit your visual of multiverse?
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if multidimensional is only the non-material in another material dimension?
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isn't everything a matter of multiverse interpretation?

which really doesn't discount anything as a probability.
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good morning

it is multi dimensional

is that multiverse?

there is only on material dimension
there are multi non material dimensions

does that fit your visual of multiverse?
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if multidimensional is only the non-material in another material dimension
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okay
why is their collective memory of non human origin men mating with human origin women
but no collective memory of non human origin women mating with human origin men

the women did not like the nature of the men therefore did never mate

but
in south america it feels there were men who`s nature was like by women

or something like that is pinging

we will discover
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isn't everything a matter of multiverse interpretation?

which really doesn't discount anything as a probability.
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good morning

it is multi dimensional

is that multiverse?

there is only on material dimension
there are multi non material dimensions

does that fit your visual of multiverse?
 Quoting: aether


if multidimensional is only the non-material in another material dimension?
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there is one material dimension
so
no matter which non material dimension you are within
when you materialize
you are in this one
the only one
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MASAI: The Gods sent some of their children to earth. The Gods came from above the clouds and brought plants and animals with them.

JA-LUO: Apodho came down to earth accompanied by his wife, bringing with him all cultural assets.

MADI-MORU: The first people lived in the Heavens. Until that connection was cut, there was a lot of traffic from the Heavens to Earth.

GANDA: The primal women came from the Heavens.

NYORO: When God established the Earth, he sent the first human couple down from the Heavens.

KIVU-PYGMIES: Our ancestors fell from the Heavens.

KULUWE: The first humans came from the Heavens, arriving with seed, rake, axe, tools etc.

BENA-LULUA: God sent four of his sons to earth.

ASHANTI: Seven people created by God climbed down to earth. After conceiving other people, they returned to the Heavens.

ZIBA: God Rugaba travels upwards to the heavens and then through the darkness.

NANDI: God Tororut lives in the heavens. He looks like a human but has wings that can cause lightning. (One of their Gods is called Chepkelienskol, which when translated literally, means “The thing with the 9 ray-beam.legs”
 Quoting: observation
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you know the politics of our roman.greek past alters if you think that the authorities by law ordered sky god worship (planets/sun/star(s)) and were troubled by people whom claimed ancestry from gods that arrived from our sky

wow
think about it
is messiahship claim of extraterrestrial ancestry


hmm
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you know the politics of our roman.greek past alters if you think that the authorities by law ordered sky god worship (planets/sun/star(s)) and were troubled by people whom claimed ancestry from gods that arrived from our sky

wow
think about it
is messiahship claim of extraterrestrial ancestry


hmm
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was this the real problem our authorities had with jesus

the one to this day no one wants to talk about


hmm
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All the gods and goddesses have counterparts in all other religions. The monotheistic faiths turned them into angels and saints. Isis/Ishtar/Astarte and Terra/Gaia/Tara come to mind. Also Mercury/Hermes/Thoth were the same. The list goes on.
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there are two ways of looking at our sophistry
and
both may be true

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All the gods and goddesses have counterparts in all other religions. The monotheistic faiths turned them into angels and saints. Isis/Ishtar/Astarte and Terra/Gaia/Tara come to mind. Also Mercury/Hermes/Thoth were the same. The list goes on.
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there are two ways of looking at our sophistry
and
both may be true
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okay i wrote history
and get
sophistry

a word i have never used or know meaning of

Sophism

Sophism in the modern definition is a specious argument used for deceiving someone.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

oh
my
goodness

/z\
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guess that's where the word sophisticated comes from?

morning aether.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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guess that's where the word sophisticated comes from?

morning aether.
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good morning jonny
mind if i kiss you

smile_kiss

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} the proximal speed of light is away from the source at a foot per nanosecond. Everyone, including Einstein, has to acknowledge this fact. It merely follows from what Einstein claims: (whether he is right or wrong) that the speed of light is always measured at the afore stated speed. This results in an expanding sphere around and attached to (centered on) the source.

Cartesian coordinates. The passage of time in the source reference frame is depicted by the expansion of the light sphere at a foot per nanosecond. (concentric spheres scaled at a foot or some other distance, increment radius "stop motion.") The passage of time in the opposite reference frame, the one with relative motion to the source frame, is depicted by the increasing distance between the two origins of the two reference systems. The increase in distance is caused by the velocity between the reference frames. There is no "stationary reference frame."

At t=zero, there is no "bubble." The light bulb has just flashed; no time has passed. The light bulb is either in one frame or the other. Take your pick. The frame that you pick becomes the source reference frame. [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: observation


proximal
1. Nearest; proximate.
2. Anatomy Nearer to a point of reference such as an origin, a point of attachment, or the midline of the body [link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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part of the process /z\ of removing "time is a dimension " belief

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