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art does not produce life
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huh? Art IS life. It is the foundation of creation.
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art may inspire but it doesnot breathe
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Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

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art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
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huh? Art IS life. It is the foundation of creation.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


art may inspire but it doesnot breathe
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Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

:earth:
 Quoting: Seer777


art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
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Why can't you answer me as to what you think life is?

Does the sun have 'life'?
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so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
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Again, you have to describe what you are thinking 'life' is.
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no you are thinking that art has conscious.
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No, you are thinking art doesn't have consciousness.
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that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
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art may inspire but it doesnot breathe
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Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

:earth:
 Quoting: Seer777


art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Why can't you answer me as to what you think life is?

Does the sun have 'life'?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


what is it to you?
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art does not produce life
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it is life that produces thought in the material not the other way round
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What type of meaning are you holding to 'life'? Consciousness produces the ability of thought. Thought is produced through a mixture of consciousness and electrical firings in the brain.
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so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
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Again, you have to describe what you are thinking 'life' is.
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no you are thinking that art has conscious.
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No, you are thinking art doesn't have consciousness.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
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Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
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Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

:earth:
 Quoting: Seer777


art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Why can't you answer me as to what you think life is?

Does the sun have 'life'?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


what is it to you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I asked first. LMAO, answering a question with a question.

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art may inspire but it doesnot breathe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

earth
 Quoting: Seer777


art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I see.


Well I think you are forgetting the Ancient Muse.

The Creator of this reality, in which ever way one choose to see it.

Or that which inSpires Man to create. As we too are creators having the breath of God within.

:)


Breath is everything.

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no you are thinking that art has conscious.
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No, you are thinking art doesn't have consciousness.
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that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
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it is life that produces thought in the material not the other way round
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but we will see where that leads
What type of meaning are you holding to 'life'? Consciousness produces the ability of thought. Thought is produced through a mixture of consciousness and electrical firings in the brain.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
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but we will see where that leads
What type of meaning are you holding to 'life'? Consciousness produces the ability of thought. Thought is produced through a mixture of consciousness and electrical firings in the brain.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


i would also add that consciousness requires a spirit/soul
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but we will see where that leads
What type of meaning are you holding to 'life'? Consciousness produces the ability of thought. Thought is produced through a mixture of consciousness and electrical firings in the brain.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Oh, now we are restricting art to only humans...?
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No, you are thinking art doesn't have consciousness.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


a fish is not art either
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so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


i would also add that consciousness requires a spirit/soul
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Does a cancer cell have consciousness?
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so are you saying that conscious doesnot need life, that it exist on its own?
perhaps only with God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Oh, now we are restricting art to only humans...?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that is an illogical assumption to make from any of my statement
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I'm going to let you in on a HUGE secret. It is such a profound secret, you will probably reject it immediately.

Everything is imbued with consciousness. There is nothing that does not contain IT.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


i would also add that consciousness requires a spirit/soul
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Does a cancer cell have consciousness?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


it multiply and reproduces, you tell me if that is a requirement of living
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No, you are thinking art doesn't have consciousness.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
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that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


a fish is not art either
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OK. You win. I give up.

Art is only created by man. It has no consciousness, but is formed from thought, even though most true art is done through pure intuition and has no thought within the creation.

You are right. Sorry we wasted a couple pages of aether's thread.

wall


Ah, that feels better.

OH! Here's another work of art that, in accordance to your thoughts, is not alive.

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in essence it tells us those angels might have been fairies
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On that note, why would the 'Sons of God' have sperm at all?

Could it have been a different type of coupling?

Tantric coupling perhaps?

Or do you think that is was regular sexual intercourse between the angels and the women?

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


women hold creation, that is a mighty strong temption even for an angel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


True.

But I believe it was noted as being lust the angels were originally overcome by when appreciating the beauty of woman.

The 'women' were mesmerized by the angels, as you can imagine they would be, and the angels were able to 'take their pick'.

If 'female' didn't exist in any regard before 'Eve' why would there even be a phallus on the angels?

Why would there be sperm?

hmm
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females did exist, they just didn't look like human women. These 'sons of god' were hybrid-animal head with body of human, allegedly.
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that is correct, art cannot distinquish left from right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
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No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
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art may inspire but it doesnot breathe
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Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

:earth:
 Quoting: Seer777


art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I see.


Well I think you are forgetting the Ancient Muse.

The Creator of this reality, in which ever way one choose to see it.

Or that which inSpires Man to create. As we too are creators having the breath of God within.

:)


Breath is everything.

:HowlingWolf:




IMO.
 Quoting: Seer777


does art breath
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Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
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No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


your questions are circular, based on an assumption that is incorrewct
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Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
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No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


your questions are circular, based on an assumption that is incorrewct
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art doesnot have a conscious, art doesnot decide what is of value and what is not. conscious alone makes that decision
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the art of man does not imbue consciousness, maybe with the exception of AI. but we will see where that leads
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


i would also add that consciousness requires a spirit/soul
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


Does a cancer cell have consciousness?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


it multiply and reproduces, you tell me if that is a requirement of living
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You cannot answer a question, can you?
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[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
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No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


your questions are circular, based on an assumption that is incorrewct
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Asking you what you think life is, is circular?
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Neither can a fish, but some can create beautiful masterpieces of art.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


again a false assumption on your part
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Sure it does.


And if beautiful enough...in gasps and breathlessness.

EARTH

earth
 Quoting: Seer777


art is an imaginative process. it is of itself confined to a representation of life nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


I see.


Well I think you are forgetting the Ancient Muse.

The Creator of this reality, in which ever way one choose to see it.

Or that which inSpires Man to create. As we too are creators having the breath of God within.

:)


Breath is everything.

HowlingWolf




IMO.
 Quoting: Seer777


does art breath
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20093181


It does for me.

I think it does for you as well. But we are stuck in a semantic loop.

My least favorite type of argument.



This is the way I look at it...why did God create anything at all?


Companionship.



vesicapisces

To Touch.

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[link to twistedsifter.com]

Is that not art to you? And they do not even know right from wrong! Much less right from left.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you are arguing with yourself not me
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No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


again a false assumption on your part
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Now, you are talking to yourself, and you are being circular.

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you are arguing with yourself not me
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No wonder you won't answer my questions. You think I am talking to myself when, in reality, I have been talking to you. Interesting.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


your questions are circular, based on an assumption that is incorrewct
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Asking you what you think life is, is circular?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


you seem to capable of thinking for yourself, you tell me
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