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| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 12/26/2012 10:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its catchy, and sometime can sound a bit ridiculous, but what can I do.. gotta go, good night everyone, enjoy your sweet dreams It funny SS mentioned calling you "Brazil" as I started to have trouble calling you that as well, a few days ago. I was thinking about forgoing it completely last night. It seem SS and I were sharing similar thoughts regarding you. Can I call you Nico? "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
| Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 12/26/2012 11:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In case anyone needs a laugh... The 25 Funniest AutoCorrects Of 2012 [link to www.buzzfeed.com] "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body." ~Seneca |
| wow User ID: 30782892 12/27/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | aether, you are supercharged, in a non-adrenaline way. Quoting: Septenary Man I am sitting here, thinking about the 'mix', and everyone is interpreting it their own way. Along with personal interpretation is the cumulative effect of everyone else's interpretation. It is causing a coalition. BTW, I had to look up the exact meaning of that word to define what I am feeling. A coalition is a pact or treaty among individuals or groups, during which they cooperate in joint action, each in their own self-interest, joining forces together for a common cause. This alliance may be temporary or a matter of convenience. A coalition thus differs from a more formal covenant. Possibly described as a joining of 'factions', usually those with overlapping interests rather than opposing. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Fuck myself...how perfect is that for intuitive thought. Aether, I know you may not feel different from 'us', ...lmao. Sorry, but I have deleted what I was going to say. At any rate. when someone stands out in a crowd, there is a natural tendency to be drawn to that person when ideals synch. Dammit, I have been drinking and am in a most personal, fully loving mode. I am approximately a few months at least ahead of the world curve. At least, I think I may be, lmao Fuck, I just deleted much more. I say this in a way most different than others would take it... ...but, God bless us. I have deleted much too over the years |
| acuk User ID: 30942546 12/27/2012 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey see7,, aether,, Quoting: nobody 30416591 enjoyed ss's marley thread,, a great smile creater indeed,, was concerened however,, at the motive of intent within another thread regarding a swear word and angels,, it seems you were both perhaps somewhat un-necessarly unkindly mentioned,, and,, is that Angels,, appearing as an ac,, in there,, attempting too re-dres or restore balance?,, this one fails too recompensence or quantify such motives,, when the only success of any negative direction,, is always ended by self design and always before it has begun,, negativity destroys self by attractional implosion,, much love,, I too was moved by the marley thread it was not only a great smile creator and feel good experience, it gave a choice and many who took part were unaware of the choice. Positive or negative. Many placed their focus on the negativity that marley went through commenting on punishments the perpertrators should receive. Others completely overlooking the negative factor were celebrating the positivity that arrised out of the negative situation that dog went through. Interesting observation and another lesson for me on how important it is were I place my focus, for note I celebrated the positivity. I have a new puppy jack russle and he is standing next to me going mental barking at his own reflection, my cat is twice his size lol such joy our four legged companians give us. |
| acuk/james User ID: 30942546 12/27/2012 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its catchy, and sometime can sound a bit ridiculous, but what can I do.. gotta go, good night everyone, enjoy your sweet dreams It funny SS mentioned calling you "Brazil" as I started to have trouble calling you that as well, a few days ago. I was thinking about forgoing it completely last night. It seem SS and I were sharing similar thoughts regarding you. Can I call you Nico? Syncronicity abounds once again, I don't think it ever stops it is just our perception of it. Tunico I owe you an apology also and about three or four days ago I was pushed to do this and was waiting for the right opertunity to step forward. Some time back I started some threads I was all over the place having just left an nlp laden past year, I was using the moniker ICU I got you to start a thread about yourself, I am sorry for any confusion that may have resulted from my actions and would humbly ask your forgivness. Hugs. |
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| Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 12/27/2012 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morning Rayrayz. Glad to hear you got that karma thing worked out. I saw that the mods stepped in and removed that karma point I told you about a few weeks ago. I suppose my theory was right in that one case. ;) The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
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| Rayrayz User ID: 951476 12/27/2012 06:20 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morning Rayrayz. Glad to hear you got that karma thing worked out. I saw that the mods stepped in and removed that karma point I told you about a few weeks ago. I suppose my theory was right in that one case. ;) Mornin' Jonny. Yeah, your theory was correct. and thanks for PMing me and having that intuition to know that it wasn't me. ;) |
| Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 12/27/2012 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morning Rayrayz. Glad to hear you got that karma thing worked out. I saw that the mods stepped in and removed that karma point I told you about a few weeks ago. I suppose my theory was right in that one case. ;) Mornin' Jonny. Yeah, your theory was correct. and thanks for PMing me and having that intuition to know that it wasn't me. ;) No problem,chief. I knew that wasn't you from the get go. Spidey sense kicked in. It was the least I could do to make up for fucking with you that one day. Sorry bout that, by the way. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 06:30 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | replaying those /z\ because i noticed that water and electromagnetic radiation , of which the visible radiation is light causes water to experience over unity (perpetual motion) so we are right to tell water in our bodies is the translator of information.......... but thinking about it we have said all this not sure why i`m repeating it got a distinct sensation i am not following feedback because i was in strange sensation of "dull day" |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 06:35 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morning guys ray you prompt me to know i was dreaming last night talking to the women with our throat chakra`s, which i do every night but not remember very often oh that`s good haha funny having someone that knows more what you do together than you do yourself i quite like that sensation knowing her personality makes me more "productive" than i would likely be left to my own devises |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 06:37 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another Year Dec 27, 2012 The MESSENGER spacecraft has recently been approved for an extended mission in Mercury orbit. Quoting: observationThe Mercury Surface, Space Environment, Geochemistry and Ranging (MESSENGER) spacecraft was launched from Cape Canaveral on August 3, 2004. On March 17, 2011 MESSENGER entered orbit, initiating a yearlong study of the Solar System’s innermost planet. MESSENGER’s extended mission began on March 18, 2012. Mercury’s geology is intriguing to planetary scientists because it provides them with a number of “mysteries” and “processes that have yet to be understood”. Chains of craters and melted pits extend outward from terraced depressions; their flat bottoms and the vertical sidewalls are signs that they were created by electric discharge processes, rather than meteor impacts on the surface. Although asteroids hitting Mercury is not an unreasonable theory, the signature of electrical activity is more prevalent than evidence for kinetic shockwaves through the strata. Most of the debris on the surface of Mercury appears to be chunks of fallback material that was blown out by the explosive energies of plasma discharges. For example, many craters on Mercury, such as Fonteyn, are surrounded by bright linear deposits called “rays.” The rays are reminiscent of those that radiate outward from Tycho, a giant crater on Earth’s Moon............... [link to www.thunderbolts.info] Last Edited by aether on 12/27/2012 06:37 AM |
| Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 12/27/2012 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morning aether The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 06:41 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even emitting in IR may not mean a star per se. They say Brown Dwarf stars fuse Deuterium instead of hydrogen. Regardless, but in an EU universe even planets are connected to the circuit. Magnetic Induction is becoming quite a common use for cooking, I expect there is alot going on in the center of planets and stars to make their centers hot. Of course so far the only large planets I have seen all have gaseous atmospheres. With enough current those gases could easily glow, so i guess the EU needs to define what constitutes a star or planet. We know stars are not contained thermonuclear devises, they are much worse, a magnetically contained electrical Z-Pinch connected to lightyear (x billions, debating that now) Birkeland Currents connecting, well, everything. Quoting: observation |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 06:52 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even emitting in IR may not mean a star per se. They say Brown Dwarf stars fuse Deuterium instead of hydrogen. Regardless, but in an EU universe even planets are connected to the circuit. Magnetic Induction is becoming quite a common use for cooking, I expect there is alot going on in the center of planets and stars to make their centers hot. Of course so far the only large planets I have seen all have gaseous atmospheres. With enough current those gases could easily glow, so i guess the EU needs to define what constitutes a star or planet. We know stars are not contained thermonuclear devises, they are much worse, a magnetically contained electrical Z-Pinch connected to lightyear (x billions, debating that now) Birkeland Currents connecting, well, everything. Quoting: observationyou know that reminds me, when i first discovered information regarding our electric universe it caught my attention because it prompted the experience of electricity providing the medium to travel through:as in because electricity is everywhere (distributed) it is what you travel through/in (dimension) at near instant velocity when i say "you" i mean self, that mix of static/electromagnetic non material structure which, when fully self aware (possessing practical information), travels in/through electricity good, back into feedback direction Ascension mean higher conscious process ability linked to differing electric affects and electricity associated fields inclusive of magnetic Quoting: aether is how the story flows This is what I am getting. It was in regard to the mixing of brainwaves. I am consciously playing within my subconscious. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals For most people, the subconscious is invisible, and untouchable. For me, it is something that I can consciously play inside. :) Yes... Its what creates the Dance! Quoting: Seer777 The mixing of the different brainwaves while in a conscious or semi conscious state. That is why people who do not meditate don't feel it! They are stuck in repetitive patterns of the 9-5 work-a-day grind. Consciously experiencing the same 5 repeating brainwaves in predictable patterns due to habit...except perhaps at specific times when the experience activity is labeled 'supernatural' or paranormal. That is why those who meditate fastidiously and learn to connect to the energy...can access the different conscious and unconscious brain waves simultaneously creating something completely new. It all makes sense! The DANCE... C it? ![]() The energy created during this state is gigantic. One just need to learn how to utilize it. ![]() Looks like I was throwing around (!'s) that day. I must have been really excited. lol. Clarity on the Dance. This is exactly where I wanted to go today. conscious process |
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| Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 12/27/2012 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | West Of House You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here. Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 12/27/2012 07:08 AM The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 07:02 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gautama Buddha did not endorse belief in a creator deity, refused to express any views on creation and stated that questions on the origin of the world are worthless. The non-adherence[6] to the notion of an omnipotent creator deity or a prime mover is seen by many as a key distinction between Buddhism and other religions. Quoting: observationRather, Buddhism emphasizes the system of causal relationships underlying the universe (pratitya samutpada) which constitute the natural order (dharma). No dependence of phenomena on a supernatural reality is asserted in order to explain the behaviour of matter. According to the doctrine of the Buddha a human being must study Nature (dhamma vicaya) in order to attain personal wisdom (prajna) regarding the nature of things (dharma). In Buddhism the sole aim of spiritual practice is the complete alleviation of stress in samsara, called nirvana. if we superimpose the notion our environment is knowable self aware (intelligent) onto buddha`s words does that fit what buddah was telling |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 07:06 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here. captures our imagination of dimensional transfer which is what i noticed in your tags then i thought what is the experience of others when they step through which got me thinking of others experiences and why they experience what they do which took me to self aware risk assess environment and all the people here that have died within our self aware risk assess environment contained within our local memory field which again as i talk takes us to our 2013 onwards topics |
| Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 12/27/2012 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did you think of Zork? It's a legendary game as far as computers go. It's the best text game ever made. Of course, there is not much competition in that particular genre. The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 07:08 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aetheroh so that`s the dimension of the non material dimensions where that occurs, when the material dimension ones deform (die) unaware of their natural ability to reform (born) within our material dimension retaining personality/memory as a 9 i would be/am unaware of that feels right but i will wait to see what feedback says a charge bias 9 unaware because i was never immersed within the field materially this way within non material either which means all things that once formed (born) retain the potential to reform (born) at some distance (time) because field makes it so (memory = eternal) and charge awareness confirms so does that make sense of this: Alone was Enki left; only by the thoughts of his heart was he accompanied. Quoting: historyHow it all began and how it thus far ended, he sat and pondered. Was it all destined, or was it fate by this and that decision fashioned? If Heaven and Earth by cycles within cycles regulated, What had happened will again occur? Is the Past-the Future? Will the Earthlings the Anunnaki emulate, will Earth relive Nibiru? Will he, the first to arrive, the last to leave be? Beseiged by thoughts, Enki a decision made: All the events and decisions, starting with Nibiru to this day on Earth, To put in a record, a guide to future generations to become; Let posterity, at a time by destiny designated, The record read, the Past remember, the Future as prophecy understand, i believe it is beginning to anyone got any thoughts on this /z\ brother and sister |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 07:12 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The cool objectivity of the Presence both shook and impressed Enki. Quoting: history‘I knew Ereshkigal as I did my own soul’, replied Enki, and stopped short before he spoke his True Mind. And knowing your soul, you wouldn’t want to live in the Underworld, would you, Lord Enki?’ completed the Presence, saying the words Enki had thought, but stopped himself short from saying. ‘ But all who live come to this realm at the end of their life cycles in the Worlds Above. All, with no exception.´ With a wide gesture, the Presence pointed at the strange ghostly, frame-like creatures of all sorts Enki saw roaming about the Underworld. ‘All who live come to this realm at the end of their life cycles...‘, repeated Enki thoughtfully. ‘ So all these... presences, are they all dead?’ He knew this was a rhetoric question as soon as the words came out of his mouth. The Presence remained silent, but somehow Enki did not find It threatening. ‘I didn’t think about death until now. I knew that it was something that happened to the living, to humankind, plants and beasts alike. Not to the Anunnaki though.` ‘What did you experience upon arrival in the Underworld, my lord?’, asked the Presence quietly. ‘Disorientation, challenge, intense scrutiny of everything that I was, believed or did. But wait! Are you saying that I also died when I set foot upon this land?` Enki sensed the Presence’s quiet smile. ‘You were also reborn here. The Underworld is the Inner Reality that Gives Sustenance to Everything There Was, Is and Will Be. It is the Realm of Essence, where Life and Death meet and merge out of one another. Here Life and Death are both rhythm and transformation between Energy and Form so that Healing and Regeneration can take place. You, my lord, who by your Craft confer to all there is the Knowledge of what they can Become, must know that this Knowledge is seldom realized in the Middlearth. Thus, all the living at the end of their life cycles come to the Underworld for Justice and Balance. Remember, my lord, that out of life comes death, out of death life, out of the young the old and out of the old the young, out of waking sleep and out of sleep waking. This way we in the Depths Below are linked to the Worlds Above as part of the stream of creation and dissolution that never ends.‘ ‘And how does this occur?’ ' What was Form becomes the Energy of What It Was while the Essence rebuilds itself in Strength of \What It Can and Will for Sure Be,’ the Presence’s tone became at once gentle and positive. ’ Existence is both a Process and a Goal that finds its justification in its Own Evolution and Self-Transcendence. As such, it is not a pre-established plan, but a Seed of Becoming, containing Within All Possibilities to be Realized Without.’ Silence followed, and Enki was taken by deep emotion. A hot, lonely tear streamed down his face, at the same time that he consciously shifted his awareness, transforming the Energy of What and Who he saw into the Forms of What They Were and Would Be. The Land of No Return became then the Image of Paradise Restored, the Primal Land that also contains the stars. He turned to the Presence with deep respect and acknowledged who She actually was. ‘Sister, Ereshkigal, Beloved Twin, I lend you graces. And I beg you to forgive me for not having recognized you!’ Indeed, who was smiling at him was not the bone-like, skeletal figure and projection of one’s deepest fears, but a tall, slim, young and serious woman, with long dark hair, all dressed in black and silver, who Enki knew as well as his own soul. ‘Do you understand now, Enki? Why my place is here, why I cannot return with you?’ asked softly Ereshkigal. ‘ I’ve become one of the Great Guardians now., and my choice to be so. Father An for the Sky, Ki-Ninhursag of Many Names for the Earth, Enlil for Air, you for the Sweet, Shape-Forming Waters and myself for the Underworld. There was a great need for a Presence here. So many come to this Realm in Pain and Sorrow, missing so much what they never experienced or accomplished in the Worlds Above. They need to learn about Balance and Healing. I am here to ensure that all who look for the Essence beyond Appearances will seek and find it, if only they are willing to bare and reshape their souls to accomplish this. Because so many will never see the Underworld as the Land of Balance. Like yourself upon arrival, who saw this land and Her beings as ghosts, and life here as labor and tears.’ ‘O, sister, isn’t it too much for you to balance all pain for the Worlds Above before Healing and Regeneration can take place?’ asked Enki, taken aback by the sheer amount of responsibility Ereshkigal had willingly put on her delicate yet strong shoulders. re-read that /\ using this \/ to describe what the underworld is and the awareness enki is receiving The Nine Underworlds of the Cosmos Quoting: aetherAccording to ancient Mayan beliefs the Cosmos was made up by Nine Underworlds [link to www.calleman.com] underworlds = unseen/non material he is referring to the non material dimension which forms and sustains our material dimension and 9 is the prime conduit of the 3,6,9 conduits of energy = information as discovered by tesla If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe. — Nikola Tesla and marko rodin when translating the great name of god it is the sequence of spin (pattern) that the 3,6,9, conduits take/form that dictates the motive (energy = e information) of the material dimension they form and sustain The Thirteen Heavens as a Creative Progression The levels of consciousness developed by each Underworld are developed according to a common pattern. The Maya used to describe this by the notion that a special deity or divine force ruled each of the Thirteen Heavens of the various Underworlds and from the Aztecs we have information about what these deities were: [link to www.calleman.com] now we are into the material dimension formed as a consequence of the energy/information from our non material dimension expressed in material (13 steps of the pyramid) each containing consciousness (the information/motive/purpose) derived from our non material dimension 13 = 3+1 = 11.11 = 4 = wholeness; totality; completion; solid 9 + 4 = 13 that seems to be where he is going or where he should be going i imagine update 13 steps of the pyramid expressed as 9 physical steps on the way up or down (up/down = sequence choice of spin) manifesting in 4 sided magic house on the top (material) 13 in total [link to www.calleman.com] which shows either way , up or down, (left or right) the dialogue (feedback) is between non material and material if i read to much of that i get enki`s fear/confusion/worry sigh so i`m not interested in reading it very much enki was quite nervy on this topic /z\ Last Edited by aether on 12/27/2012 07:13 AM |
| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 07:17 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did you think of Zork? It's a legendary game as far as computers go. It's the best text game ever made. Of course, there is not much competition in that particular genre. i liked it because it prompted me onto the right directional topic |
| Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 12/27/2012 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did you think of Zork? It's a legendary game as far as computers go. It's the best text game ever made. Of course, there is not much competition in that particular genre. i liked it because it prompted me onto the right directional topic I just read the wiki page and stumbled upon something I did not know. A full version of Zork is imbedded in the recently released XBOX and Playstation game Call of Duty: Black Ops. Seems an odd place for a text game. Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 12/27/2012 07:19 AM The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
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| aether (OP) User ID: 28218601 12/27/2012 07:19 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What did you think of Zork? It's a legendary game as far as computers go. It's the best text game ever made. Of course, there is not much competition in that particular genre. i liked it because it prompted me onto the right directional topic I just read the wiki page and stumbled upon something I did not know. A full version of Zork is imbedded in the recently released XBOX and Playstation game Call of Duty: Black Ops. i know go for it |
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